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| [17:04:37] | dashs: | Can anyone tell me what the search order for .mpg files is (say from the Watch Recordings dialog)? |
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| [17:32:43] | sphery: | dashs: it searches in all the directories specified for the (recording host's definition of the) Storage Group assigned by the recording rule in "some" order (generally however they tend to come out of the database), and if it's not found, it searches in all directories specified in all Storage Group definitions (for all hosts) |
| [17:32:49] | sphery: | why? |
| [17:38:58] | sphery: | Oh, wait, I forgot--after checking in the directories of the recording-rule-specified Storage Group, it checks in the directories of the Default Storage Group, then it checks in all directories in all SGs |
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| [17:41:40] | sphery: | so rule-assigned SG dir list, then Default SG dir list, then all dirs specified by all SGs |
| [17:42:18] | sphery: | and search order of dirs in a given SG is not determined/specified by MythTV |
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| [18:21:09] | dashs: | sphery: I've been trying to reconcile the observed behavior here — I have a storagegroup "vidlib" which is never specified in any recording rule — it is composed of a USB disk farm. When those disks are online search time is ~30 secs, offline 2 sec. |
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| [18:32:53] | dashs: | This for recordings recorded to a single-dir SG at first. |
| [18:37:11] | sphery: | and the recording it's looking for is in a directory in the specified SG? |
| [18:38:14] | sphery: | and when you say "search time", you mean when you request playback of the recording? |
| [18:39:09] | sphery: | or if you mean when it starts recording, that's probably because MythTV is building a list of available file systems (and which dirs are on which file systems and how much storage is on each file system) |
| [18:39:28] | sphery: | same could actually happen when you request playback--never looked that close, so I don't know for sure |
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| [18:40:13] | sphery: | so it could just be that the HDD spin up/USB access "spin up" when checking the file system info is causing the delay |
| [18:43:17] | dashs: | yes and yes (playback only) |
| [18:44:20] | dashs: | A minor annoyance only, but you know. |
| [18:45:31] | dashs: | I've taken to umounting "vidlib" unless I need to playback from there. |
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| [19:43:21] | dashs: | Major PITA: recording 2 or more streams to a given fs which is almost full of auto-expire files. Watching one of those streams on a frontend. Auto-expire runs obtains space and re-schedules. During the process, the backend playback socket is corrupted/deleted/closed and the frontend restarts. Very repeatable. |
| [19:52:09] | dashs: | Have a work-around but it's not very pretty. |
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| [22:59:47] | camjac251: | I'm installing mythtv for the first time and was wondering what version everyone used |
| [23:00:04] | camjac251: | I'm convinced on 0.28 but fear that it'll break things too often |
| [23:00:50] | [R]: | nothing is forcing you to constantly update it... |
| [23:00:59] | [R]: | so it won't just magically break on its own if its already working |
| [23:01:54] | camjac251: | I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 |
| [23:02:01] | camjac251: | Found a guide on how to install the backend |
| [23:02:13] | camjac251: | but the ppa you gave me seems to have both the frontend and backend |
| [23:02:37] | camjac251: | might not have been you :/ |
| [23:02:44] | [R]: | of course the ppa is going to have both... |
| [23:02:57] | camjac251: | I meant one package |
| [23:03:00] | camjac251: | with both in it |
| [23:03:10] | camjac251: | https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.28 |
| [23:04:04] | [R]: | sso? |
| [23:05:21] | ** tgm4883 pokes his head in ** | |
| [23:06:24] | camjac251: | Ok, I guess I'll go with that then |
| [23:06:35] | tgm4883: | camjac251: With the questions you are asking, I'm worried about you choosing 0.28 |
| [23:06:48] | camjac251: | what do you mean |
| [23:07:04] | tgm4883: | I mean, 0.28 is in development |
| [23:07:06] | camjac251: | are there any benefits of choosing 0.28, feature wise |
| [23:07:20] | camjac251: | Things that 0.27 does not have |
| [23:07:43] | tgm4883: | 0.28 has all sorts of things that 0.27 doesn't have |
| [23:07:57] | tgm4883: | camjac251: what is your end goal here? |
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| [23:08:48] | camjac251: | to have mythtv running and working with my ubuntu 14.04 install, hd homerun prime, (possible roku with a github package), nexus player mythtv app |
| [23:09:16] | camjac251: | recording/rewinding shows, commercial skipping, recording to files that can be viewed on plex |
| [23:09:31] | Chicago: | dunno about plex, but the rest can be done on earlier versions |
| [23:09:43] | camjac251: | I mean the end file, is unencrypted right |
| [23:09:47] | Chicago: | (using a HD Homerun Prime here as well) |
| [23:09:56] | camjac251: | It could be viewed in a regular player |
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| [23:10:12] | Chicago: | Yes, HD Homerun Prime streams straight MPEG2 so long as your cable company sends them to you without the shitty flags in the transport stream. |
| [23:10:16] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you can do whatever you want. But just a pointer, those "single package that contains both the backend and frontend in a single package" items that you are worried about are source packages. |
| [23:10:33] | tgm4883: | Chicago: it also does MPEG4 |
| [23:10:37] | Chicago: | Oh? |
| [23:10:44] | camjac251: | I meant the launchpad ppa, already built for trusty |
| [23:10:45] | Chicago: | That's pretty cool, dunno if I have any channels on MPEG4. |
| [23:10:59] | tgm4883: | Chicago: it just takes whatever comes in on the cable and sends it to your backend |
| [23:11:04] | camjac251: | from mythbuntu |
| [23:11:23] | camjac251: | since the last update I saw from ubuntu's package manager for mythtv was 2014 |
| [23:11:24] | tgm4883: | camjac251: yes, I know what you're talking about. I build those packages :) |
| [23:11:31] | Chicago: | The HD Homerun Prime is an excellent product and their team at HQ provides good telephone support too in the event you'll ever need it. |
| [23:11:53] | tgm4883: | camjac251: we generally recommend running the latest release version PPA |
| [23:11:57] | tgm4883: | which would be 0.27 |
| [23:12:14] | Chicago: | camjac251, alternatively do a Gentoo install and simply ' emerge mythtv '. |
| [23:12:18] | Chicago: | It doesn't get much easier. |
| [23:12:26] | camjac251: | I dont mind running 0.28 as long as its compatible with kodi and the android mythtv apps I want to run |
| [23:12:36] | camjac251: | unless its changed drastically since 0.27 |
| [23:12:54] | tgm4883: | camjac251: but in any case, if you click through you can see everything that is built from those source packages https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.28/+packages |
| [23:13:03] | Chicago: | The Android MythTV application for HTTP Live Streaming doesn't work for me as there was some segfault in mythtranscode giving me problems. |
| [23:13:20] | tgm4883: | Chicago: well that's Gentoo for you ;) |
| [23:13:46] | camjac251: | I was just confused from reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Server/Backend |
| [23:13:57] | Chicago: | tgm4883, likely the problem has more to do with me having an incorrect dependency or deep dependency somewhere which can be rectified in the mythtv ebuild. |
| [23:14:06] | camjac251: | Where myth-server and myth-backend were not in the ppa |
| [23:14:15] | camjac251: | I'm guessing its all bundled now in 0.28 |
| [23:14:27] | tgm4883: | camjac251: oh geez "MythTV/Install/Server/Backend (last edited 2008-06–27 10:15:11 by localhost)" |
| [23:14:33] | Chicago: | wow |
| [23:14:38] | tgm4883: | stop, just stop. One sec |
| [23:14:45] | Chicago: | That's almost before the majority of people switched to digital. |
| [23:14:56] | tgm4883: | camjac251: http://goo.gl/S54zL |
| [23:15:02] | tgm4883: | camjac251: that should help you |
| [23:15:41] | camjac251: | I'd like to stick with stock 14.04 |
| [23:15:53] | camjac251: | I've seen some threads of people saying things broke in mythbuntu |
| [23:16:05] | tgm4883: | camjac251: those people are dumb and should be shot |
| [23:16:24] | tgm4883: | camjac251: You'll have to link me those threads |
| [23:16:49] | tgm4883: | camjac251: not so I can hunt them down, but because I want to know if something is legit broken |
| [23:17:14] | tgm4883: | camjac251: further, you don't have to follow the full guide, skip forward to the relevant section |
| [23:17:40] | camjac251: | I am seeing that this thread is from 2008 now :/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9340 . . . #post5881876 |
| [23:18:01] | Chicago: | Oh, camjac251 when you setup your database for MythTV there is a section in the FAQ regarding tuning the InnoDB Storage Engine. Give it a look. |
| [23:18:15] | camjac251: | I like mariadb |
| [23:18:37] | Chicago: | MariaDB/MySQL both include the InnoDB Storage Engine. |
| [23:18:49] | Chicago: | Its a typical successor to the MyISAM Storage Engine. |
| [23:18:49] | camjac251: | By default? |
| [23:19:05] | Chicago: | Yeah, these days they both usually enable InnoDB by default. |
| [23:19:17] | camjac251: | So I should just reinstall the OS then? mythbuntu? |
| [23:19:35] | camjac251: | I don't mind installing mythtv and configuring it all on ubuntu |
| [23:19:45] | tgm4883: | camjac251: no don't reinstall |
| [23:19:50] | camjac251: | oh |
| [23:19:55] | camjac251: | what should I do? |
| [23:20:04] | camjac251: | you linked me to the mythbuntu install gudie |
| [23:20:04] | tgm4883: | install the mythbuntu-control-centre and then pick which parts you want to install |
| [23:20:33] | tgm4883: | camjac251: see, it's questions like this, which are requiring me to spoon feed you information, as to why I don't think you should be running 0.28 |
| [23:20:54] | Chicago: | camjac251, You should value the recommendation from tgm4883. |
| [23:21:09] | Chicago: | You'll enjoy MythTV much more by actually using it rather than spending time supporting your installation. |
| [23:21:30] | tgm4883: | camjac251: I mean, use the mythbuntu-control-center and install mythtv that way, or just apt-get install the packages after adding the repo |
| [23:21:56] | tgm4883: | camjac251: there are 3 supported ways to install mythtv, but IDK what components you want so I can't really just give you the commands |
| [23:22:13] | camjac251: | What GUI do you guys recommend |
| [23:22:36] | camjac251: | I have a Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 |
| [23:22:47] | Chicago: | GUI for what, mythfrontend is the GUI. |
| [23:22:58] | camjac251: | I installed ubuntu server |
| [23:23:05] | camjac251: | no gui desktop |
| [23:23:12] | tgm4883: | well.... |
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| [23:23:42] | camjac251: | I was thinking I could just install mythtv and run the setup over an X server through ssh |
| [23:23:52] | camjac251: | like the guide said, because I didnt realize how old it was |
| [23:23:57] | Chicago: | You could setup a real VNC server. |
| [23:24:05] | tgm4883: | yea you could probably do that |
| [23:24:12] | tgm4883: | it's not the most straight forward way to do it |
| [23:24:19] | camjac251: | vnc would still need a gui though |
| [23:24:38] | Chicago: | (a VNC for physical displays, where you setup a dummy adapter if you don't have one on the system) |
| [23:24:41] | tgm4883: | You might have to install mythtv-backend-master without recommends |
| [23:24:58] | Chicago: | There are myriad ways to go about it actually. |
| [23:25:54] | Chicago: | Plus, you can run mythtv-setup from any box. |
| [23:25:54] | Chicago: | It will just talk to you database when mythbackend isn't running. |
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| [23:27:35] | Chicago: | By the way, x11vnc is the package I'm referring to as the VNC server for real X displays. |
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| [23:56:32] | camjac251: | is qt installed with mythtv on the ppa? |
| [23:58:19] | [R]: | well myth requires qt... and apt installs dependencies... so... yes? |
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