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[10:26:32] HRH_H_Cr1b: hi anyone about with good knowledge of upnp / dlna features?
[10:26:40] HRH_H_Cr1b: im running backend and frontend on seperate machines
[10:27:03] HRH_H_Cr1b: when i browse to the backend using a dlna client, i can see my recordings, but how can i set the directory to server music content from?
[10:27:11] HRH_H_Cr1b: (or work out what the current setting is?)
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[11:01:10] stuarta: HRH_H_Cr1b: "--verbose upnp " my help you identify what is happening
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[12:03:50] HRH_H_Cr1b: stuarta: hmm. not sure what you mean.
[12:03:56] HRH_H_Cr1b: use that flag when i start mythbackend?
[12:04:28] stuarta: yes, you can also use it on the frontend
[12:04:35] HRH_H_Cr1b: aah. o.k. thanks.
[12:05:01] stuarta: it should hopefully capture the requests being made, so we can determine which bit isn't returning the data you need
[12:05:21] HRH_H_Cr1b: in this case im not using a device with a frontend – its just a dlna client.
[12:05:22] HRH_H_Cr1b: the whole thing is running well as far as i can tell.
[12:05:32] HRH_H_Cr1b: if i record programs, and point the dlna client at the backend i can play those back.
[12:06:00] HRH_H_Cr1b: but the server also offers a music directory which is empty: id like to make use of that too, but i just don't know where on the back end to put my mp3s!
[12:06:17] HRH_H_Cr1b: so at this stage i think its less of a "this isnt working" and more "i do not know how to do what i want!"
[12:06:22] stuarta: it probably needs a storgae group configured
[12:06:44] HRH_H_Cr1b: yes
[12:06:57] HRH_H_Cr1b: and presumably one with a special name so the upnp server knows to serve from it
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[13:40:20] stuarta: devinheitmueller: have you had any reports of the hvr 950q driver returning invalid argument when using ioctl(77, VIDIOC_STREAMON, V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) with the 4.1 kernel?
[13:40:55] stuarta: devinheitmueller: see irclogs for the background between me and ShapeShifter499 http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2015-10-05
[13:45:54] devinheitmueller: stuarta: on the phone. Will look at this when I’m done.
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[14:02:55] stuarta: devinheitmueller: np, no rush from my side
[14:19:47] devinheitmueller: stuarta: Ok, looked at the strace.
[14:20:24] devinheitmueller: The big thing that stands out to me is that I never see buffers queued (i.e. for VIDIOC_QBUF and/or VIDIOC_REQBUF)
[14:20:32] devinheitmueller: You can’t start the stream without queueing buffers.
[14:20:45] devinheitmueller: My guess is that he’s got this thing setup as an IVTV device rather than a raw capture device.
[14:20:57] devinheitmueller: And thus he’s expecting to be able to call read() against the driver for compressed content.
[14:21:33] devinheitmueller: Oh s**t, I think I know what might be going on.
[14:22:18] devinheitmueller: Another developer ported the au0828 driver to videobuf2 a few months ago, which now means that in theory the driver will support V4L2_CAP_READWRITE. That said, I doubt anybody has ever actually tested it.
[14:24:09] devinheitmueller: Something else to try: unplug the 950q, *don’t* try to run vlc/cvlc, and make sure the problem still occurs. This will eliminate the possibility that VLC is leaving the driver in some unexpected state that screws up MythTV.
[14:25:00] devinheitmueller: It’s worth noting that the 950q *definitely* worked with MythTV at one point, since I had to submit patches to MythTV to make the analog support work properly.
[14:28:17] devinheitmueller: My money is on the notion that the driver got screwed up with the conversion to videobuf2.
[14:28:33] stuarta: devinheitmueller: yes, it's reporting it supports read/write
[14:28:51] stuarta: which is what mythtv users AFAICT from reading the code
[14:28:53] devinheitmueller: Yes, but that’s a very infrequently used feature.
[14:29:02] devinheitmueller: Really? I doubt that.
[14:29:17] devinheitmueller: Many devices support READWRITE, but that’s a very bad way to obtain raw video because you can lose frame alignment.
[14:29:28] stuarta: i'm not an expert on the v4l2 recorder, so i could be wrond
[14:29:33] devinheitmueller: Almost all other applications that do raw capture use the streaming interface.
[14:29:33] stuarta: er wrong
[14:30:00] devinheitmueller: Hence my concern that despite the driver advertising support for READWRITE, it may not actually work.
[14:30:27] devinheitmueller: Definitely make sure though that it’s not configured as an IVTV device before going any further.
[14:31:27] stuarta: there a pastebin with the v4l2-ctl output somewhere
[14:31:39] devinheitmueller: I doubt that’s going to show anything useful.
[14:32:04] devinheitmueller: Sorry, I mean make sure that the user didn’t set up the device in mythtv-setup as an IVTV device (instead of a Video4Linux capture device)
[14:32:16] devinheitmueller: IIRC, the mythtv-setup GUI treats them as two separate tuner types.
[14:32:38] stuarta: devinheitmueller: ah, i check that, he's definitely using v4l2, and the backend logs with --verbose channel confirm it
[14:32:40] devinheitmueller: And while they both share a bunch of code, I believe that the IVTV device type will *always* try to use the read() mode.
[14:32:46] stuarta: http://sprunge.us/CVSR <- v4l2-ctl output
[14:32:47] devinheitmueller: Ok.
[14:32:56] stuarta: http://sprunge.us/JfJC <- backend output
[14:33:16] devinheitmueller: No surprises in the v4l2-ctl output, although I wonder why it printed out the user controls twice.  :-/
[14:34:16] stuarta: the thing is, he's trying to capture from the composite input via v4l2. i would hope that would work
[14:34:25] devinheitmueller: Yes, it should.
[14:34:40] devinheitmueller: I tested it at some point, but it was a while ago.
[14:34:57] devinheitmueller: In terms of the driver architecture, whether it’s composite or the tuner would have no effect on the actual delivery of buffers.
[14:35:19] devinheitmueller: The S_INPUT call just gets passed through to the au8522.
[14:35:37] stuarta: that all appears to work according to the strace
[14:35:42] devinheitmueller: Correct.
[14:37:02] stuarta: grepping the code, the only place we even use ioctl's with VIDIOC_QBUF is in the NuppleVideoRecorder, not in the v4l2 recorder
[14:37:21] stuarta: sounds like it needs to move to the 21st century
[14:37:29] stuarta: (the v4l2 recorder)
[14:37:43] devinheitmueller: Oh, is this some really old MythTV build?
[14:37:58] devinheitmueller: I would be surprised if that were the case if he/she was running kernel 4.1.
[14:38:15] stuarta: nope, fixes/0.27
[14:38:18] devinheitmueller: ok
[14:39:26] devinheitmueller: Hmm, according to the API spec STREAMON shouldn’t be used with read(). So it probably is in streaming mode. But I don’t see the app ever queuing any buffers. That would be bad.
[14:39:30] devinheitmueller: http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/vidioc-streamon.html
[14:39:43] stuarta: i'd noticed the same thing
[14:39:57] stuarta: i'm beginning to wonder how the heck the v4l2 recorder ever worked....
[14:40:44] devinheitmueller: MythTV uses streaming mode by default (I don’t know if it even supports READWRITE mode for raw capture). That said, something is likely going wrong in the app which prompts it to not queue the buffers.
[14:41:06] devinheitmueller: … and this could in fact be some facet of the way the driver advertises its capabilities.
[14:41:18] stuarta: potentially
[14:43:07] devinheitmueller: Weird. According to the following, the STREAMON call is always preceded with a series of QBUF calls.
[14:43:27] stuarta: i can't see a single QBUF setup anywhere in the v4l2 recorder
[14:43:38] stuarta: so how the heck did streaming ever work?
[14:44:22] devinheitmueller: Looks like the QBUF loop is based on a variable called numbuffers, which is read using VIDIOC_REQBUFS.
[14:44:28] devinheitmueller: But I don’t see a call to REQBUFS in the strace.
[14:44:32] stuarta: nope
[14:44:37] devinheitmueller: I’m looking at the following, btw. https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/fixes/0 . . . Recorder.cpp
[14:45:01] stuarta: i'm looking at https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . recorder.cpp
[14:45:11] stuarta: which is basically unchange from 0.27 anyway
[14:45:53] stuarta: bah wrong file
[14:45:56] devinheitmueller: Yeah, that’s pretty much just the VBI code.
[14:54:08] stuarta: must be
[14:54:48] devinheitmueller: Raw capture for standard def in general is already pretty rare (compared to IVTV), and even fewer would be using an input other than the tuner input.
[14:55:24] devinheitmueller: I would assume that case could grow in popularity though as more people try to use the output of a STB as analog goes away here in the US.
[14:55:53] stuarta: indeed
[14:56:13] devinheitmueller: But yeah, I now no longer think this is a bug in the 950q driver at all.
[14:56:14] stuarta: SetInputAndFormat is completely broken, it has no idea if it's meant to be streaming or not
[14:56:41] devinheitmueller: It’s possible there is some code path which sets it *after* starting streaming, but that would be bad for all sorts of other reasons.
[14:56:47] stuarta: devinheitmueller: thanks, appreciate the discussion, i can see we definitely have a bug here
[14:56:53] devinheitmueller: Ok, np.
[14:57:12] devinheitmueller: Back to the day job. TTYL.
[14:57:20] stuarta: :)
[14:57:27] stuarta: same here
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