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| [05:31:06] | maarhart: | help needed with mythshutdown... |
| [05:31:16] | maarhart: | I asked this many hours ago |
| [05:32:06] | maarhart: | mythshutdown won't put my computer to sleep |
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| [06:42:19] | GlenLin: | hello |
| [06:57:31] | at0m|c: | maarhart: there's a script defined for shutdown? check setup. does that script or command work outside mythtv? |
| [06:58:03] | at0m|c: | make sure it does, then try from within mythtv |
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| [07:38:37] | maarhart: | okay, still I have the question about mythshutdown |
| [07:53:09] | dekarl: | maarhart: https://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2015-06-27:07:48:14 |
| [08:02:07] | at0m|c: | maarhart: did you try my suggestion? |
| [08:03:34] | at0m|c: | dekarl: ok sorry :) |
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| [10:02:22] | maarhart: | thanks dekarl |
| [10:06:25] | maarhart: | dekarl: how to do that? ("maarhart, can you pastebin backend logs? with "--verbose system". It appears as if the command to shutdown does not shut down properly for some reason") |
| [10:06:56] | maarhart: | dekarl: I don't get the idea, mythbackend is running via systemctl ... how to add this --verbose system option? |
| [10:07:10] | maarhart: | at0m|c: what was your suggestion? |
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| [10:12:51] | at0m|c: | maarhart: i'm sorry, i confused mythfrontend's built-in shutdown option with mythshutdown |
| [10:13:28] | at0m|c: | i paste: <at0m|c> maarhart: there's a script defined for shutdown? check setup. does that script or command work outside mythtv? |
| [10:14:56] | at0m|c: | maarhart: re: verbose: on debian-based, /etc/default/mythtv-backend "EXTRA_ARGS="--verbose" |
| [10:15:35] | maarhart: | at0m|c: basically I want mythwelcome to shutdown automatically |
| [10:16:10] | at0m|c: | i'm not familiar with mythwelcome, i launch frontend |
| [10:16:35] | maarhart: | well, I think it calls mythshutdown, but something fails |
| [10:16:36] | at0m|c: | (and never shutdown) |
| [10:16:45] | at0m|c: | try the verbose ^^ |
| [10:16:59] | maarhart: | should I stop systemctl? |
| [10:17:02] | at0m|c: | checked https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythshutdown ? |
| [10:17:31] | maarhart: | at0m|c: yes I checked |
| [10:18:32] | maarhart: | at0m|c: so should I stop systemctl before /etc/default/mythtv-backend "EXTRA_ARGS="--verbose" |
| [10:18:34] | maarhart: | ? |
| [10:19:53] | at0m|c: | maarhart: sorry no trailing " before EXTRA, then restart the backend |
| [10:20:13] | at0m|c: | no need to stop systemctl |
| [10:21:25] | maarhart: | so sudo systemctl restart mythtv-backend.service ? |
| [10:22:05] | maarhart: | at0m|c: is this the way to restart the backend? |
| [10:22:31] | at0m|c: | depends on your distribution, i still /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart |
| [10:22:43] | maarhart: | okay I can try that |
| [10:23:53] | maarhart: | at0m|c: is this the command? /etc/default/mythtv-backend EXTRA_ARGS="--verbose" |
| [10:24:33] | at0m|c: | maarhart: no, no. add EXTRA_ARGS="--verbose" to /etc/default/mythtv-backend if you have that file on your distro |
| [10:24:43] | maarhart: | I don't have that file |
| [10:25:42] | at0m|c: | then as root: su -c "mythbackend --verbose" mythtv |
| [10:25:48] | maarhart: | http://paste.debian.net/261841 |
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| [10:26:39] | at0m|c: | stop it before you start it as ^^ |
| [10:27:26] | maarhart: | at0m|c: http://paste.debian.net/261842 |
| [10:27:46] | maarhart: | oh so stop the systemctl service |
| [10:27:47] | maarhart: | okay |
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| [10:29:26] | maarhart: | at0m|c:http://paste.debian.net/261845 |
| [10:29:50] | maarhart: | at0m|c: http://paste.debian.net/261846 |
| [10:30:12] | maarhart: | at0m|c: http://paste.debian.net/261847 |
| [10:30:50] | maarhart: | http://paste.debian.net/261848 |
| [10:31:34] | at0m|c: | maarhart: i see lots of "I'm idle now... shutdown will occur in 30 seconds." but does it shutdown? i guess not? |
| [10:32:16] | maarhart: | nope. I am still here |
| [10:32:20] | maarhart: | :) |
| [10:32:23] | at0m|c: | ehehe |
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| [10:32:44] | maarhart: | at0m|c: http://paste.debian.net/261849 |
| [10:36:17] | maarhart: | at0m|c: so what should I do? |
| [10:36:37] | at0m|c: | wait for someone more knowledgeable to jump in :D |
| [10:37:30] | at0m|c: | as i said my machines run 24/7 so i'm not familiar w this. maybe dekarl can continue now you've set --verbose |
| [10:38:18] | maarhart: | dekarl: any suggestion? |
| [10:38:36] | maarhart: | okay thanks at0m|c |
| [10:38:53] | maarhart: | dekarl: I wonder if you could help me with this... |
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| [13:49:28] | bill6502: | maarhart: What is the output of this (typed from the command line): mythshutdown --safeshutdown -v system --loglevel=debug |
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| [14:39:45] | bill6502: | maarhart: Did you do the command above (mythshutdown --safeshutdown -v system --loglevel=debug) |
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| [15:30:28] | maarhart: | bill6502: I am trying it, thanks |
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| [15:35:34] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261912 |
| [15:36:11] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261913 |
| [15:36:21] | maarhart: | first one is mythshutdown, the other one is mythbackend |
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| [15:46:47] | bill6502: | maarhart: Looks good ( mythshutdown --safeshutdown works for me from the commandline although I don't use suspend .) But if: sudo systemctl suspend is done from the command line, does it have the desired affect |
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| [15:53:07] | bill6502: | You could try: systemctl cat suspend.target which may point you to: systemctl cat systemd-suspend.service (which does: /lib/systemd/systemd-sleep suspend on my machine) and see if that works. |
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| [16:02:41] | maarhart: | okay, before I try I have to say that mythtv is set to use /usr/sbin/pm-suspend |
| [16:03:33] | maarhart: | bill6502: I don't know if I should change this or not |
| [16:04:12] | bill6502: | maarhart: I was looking at your paste: 2015-06–27 18:31:55.797431 I Managed child (PID: 20186) has started! * command=sudo systemctl suspend, timeout=0 |
| [16:04:24] | bill6502: | it |
| [16:04:39] | bill6502: | 's using suspend |
| [16:05:08] | bill6502: | see line 77 |
| [16:08:02] | maarhart: | bill6502: but it is not suspending |
| [16:09:08] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261919 |
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| [16:13:42] | bill6502: | maarhart: Understood. Did you run: /lib/systemd/systemd-sleep suspend (probably with sudo 1st) |
| [16:14:50] | bill6502: | you can follow the man page in your last paste and end up at: man systemd-sleep.conf that suggests looking in /etc/systemd/sleep.conf (which I don't have) |
| [16:16:26] | maarhart: | I don't get it bill6502 |
| [16:16:47] | maarhart: | my computer suspends if I type pm-suspend |
| [16:17:22] | maarhart: | so there is something going on with my mythtv configuration |
| [16:18:39] | bill6502: | OK, but that's not the command that's being run in line 77 of your paste... maybe try this: mythshutdown --safeshutdown -v system,database --loglevel=debug |
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| [16:19:12] | bill6502: | to see if there's a setting being referenced to retrieve the command |
| [16:20:28] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261922 |
| [16:21:53] | maarhart: | okay, that did shutdown |
| [16:22:02] | maarhart: | (I mean, suspend) |
| [16:22:33] | maarhart: | but this was with su -c "mythbackend --verbose" mythtv |
| [16:22:59] | maarhart: | I wonder if I get the same result with sudo systemctl start mythtv-backend.service |
| [16:23:40] | maarhart: | bill6502: okay, it works |
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| [16:27:30] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261924 |
| [16:29:07] | maarhart: | bill6502: oh yeah, you are right, it is using sudo systemctl suspend |
| [16:29:12] | maarhart: | I changed it just to try |
| [16:30:46] | bill6502: | That's odd, I don't see any place in mythtv-setup to change: MythShutdownPoweroff |
| [16:31:10] | maarhart: | bill6502:http://paste.debian.net/261925 |
| [16:31:34] | maarhart: | after that, it went to sleep |
| [16:31:50] | maarhart: | bill6502: mythwelcome --setup |
| [16:32:35] | maarhart: | and now it went to sleep again... don't know why |
| [16:33:09] | maarhart: | bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261926 |
| [16:33:23] | maarhart: | and my sleep script failed with error code 143 for some reason |
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| [16:35:33] | bill6502: | Did the backend run the command for you. You can always set a lock with mythshutdown --lock and that will prevent a shutdown while you're working on the machine (that has an idle backend) |
| [16:38:06] | maarhart: | I don't think it did. It did not do it again |
| [16:38:19] | maarhart: | maybe because I reopened the computer lid too fast, or something |
| [16:39:09] | maarhart: | but now since the system-sleep script failed, I don't have backend |
| [16:39:31] | maarhart: | bill6502: so how should I proceed |
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| [16:47:42] | bill6502: | maarhart: I would look at the backend log, probably in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log to see what the backend is doing. Since I don't ever use sleep/suspend, I'm not going to be of much more help. I have seen folks mention that modules don't get (re)started properly, but don't have a solution for that. There could also be clues in /var/log/syslog and or: journalctl --unit=mythtv-backend |
| [16:48:12] | bill6502: | Or, there always a hard reset |
| [16:49:54] | maarhart: | all went fine (also with kernel modules) when my script was starting mythbackend. now I was suggested here to use systemctl start mythtv-backend.service instead, which caused the problems I am having |
| [16:53:08] | maarhart: | bill6502: this is some backend log: http://paste.debian.net/261927 |
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| [16:54:28] | maarhart: | bill6502: some recent /var/log/syslog http://paste.debian.net/261928 |
| [16:54:31] | bill6502: | What distribution? I have a test host running Ubuntu 15.04 and start the BE with systemctl start mythtv-backend.service |
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| [16:54:49] | maarhart: | latest ubuntu |
| [16:55:53] | maarhart: | this is journalctl bill6502: http://paste.debian.net/261929 |
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| [17:04:08] | bill6502: | Not much in the journal and I can't see anything in the syslog (could just be me) and the BE log appears to be normal, however lots of recordings that can't be accessed. Could be from manual removes of recording files or simply a disk that isn't mounted. In any case, I'm signing off, lunch time here. You've got the tools though, use the log and with -v system, you'll see the commands being executed. Then type the |
| [17:04:11] | bill6502: | command from the command line (outside of MythTV) to see the result. |
| [17:04:13] | bill6502: | Good luck. |
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| [17:29:39] | maarhart: | manual removes |
| [17:29:52] | maarhart: | so could else can try to help me with this? |
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| [19:24:52] | maarhart: | okay, I understood. sudo mythshutdown can suspend the computer, but mythshutdown cannot. maybe this is related with my issue? |
| [19:30:21] | maarhart: | well, maybe I did not understood anything yet |
| [19:30:26] | maarhart: | help!!! |
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| [20:32:29] | dekarl: | maarhart, somehow we tend to miss each other. "sudo mythshutdown can suspend the computer" strongly hints that its a permissions issue with the user that runs mythtv. Either needs sudo permissions and sudo added to the shutdown command/script or the script needs to be made "setuid root" (change the owner to root and add the setuid flag) |
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