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| [03:44:25] | erasmus: | best usb card for price? |
| [03:44:35] | erasmus: | just for HDTV antenna |
| [03:44:37] | erasmus: | OTA |
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| [04:29:26] | erasmus: | hello |
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| [16:41:10] | sutula: | Does anyone here know whether there is a mythtv backend setting that enforces scheduled recordings to take priority over live TV watching? |
| [16:41:47] | sutula: | Sometimes, people leave a frontend watching live TV and, for example, go away, and don't see the message that the tuner is needed for a recording. |
| [16:41:59] | sutula: | I'd like the recording to take precedence. |
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| [16:46:06] | tgm4883: | sutula: I thought it did that by default? |
| [16:46:12] | tgm4883: | sutula: there is also a live tv timeout |
| [16:47:12] | sutula: | So perhaps my version is too old? I'm back on 0.24.2 :-( |
| [16:47:32] | sutula: | If so, that would be a good reason to upgrade. |
| [16:47:48] | tgm4883: | IDK, it's been a long time since I used 0.24 |
| [16:48:22] | tgm4883: | sutula: here is info on the live tv idle timeout https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detai . . . ion_Frontend |
| [16:49:17] | tgm4883: | sutula: on that same page, there is also a section for "allow live tv to move scheduled shows" |
| [16:49:31] | tgm4883: | I'm not sure if either of those are present in 0.24. I thought they were but IDK |
| [16:49:48] | sutula: | tgm4883: OK, great. At least that's a place to start. Appreciate it! |
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| [17:56:27] | erasmus: | what is the best USB tv tuner for linux? |
| [17:56:39] | erasmus: | I don't want to record or do anything fancy |
| [17:56:47] | erasmus: | just want to watch OTA hdtv |
| [17:56:57] | erasmus: | I'm in North America. |
| [17:57:16] | kisak: | you've asked several times now, but fled before a response is given :< |
| [17:57:41] | erasmus: | I've tried to be patient |
| [17:57:54] | erasmus: | I have logs |
| [17:58:20] | erasmus: | anyways, do you have an answer? |
| [17:59:27] | erasmus: | hello? |
| [17:59:35] | erasmus: | fubar. |
| [17:59:52] | kisak: | so, you're specifically looking for an ATSC tuner |
| [18:00:07] | erasmus: | just want to watch local |
| [18:00:15] | erasmus: | like news or Jeopardy |
| [18:00:25] | erasmus: | or something like the Oscars |
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| [18:01:05] | kisak: | yeah, ATSC is the newer digital over-the-air encoding and Hauppauge generally has good value/quality |
| [18:01:30] | kisak: | but you should double check any particular model to make sure it works well with linux |
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| [18:02:52] | devinheitmuell-1: | Bear in mind Hauppauge’s currently available USB tuner (the HVR-955) isn’t supported under Linux. |
| [18:02:59] | devinheitmuell-1: | You would have to get an older HVR-950Q |
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| [18:10:15] | erasmus: | ok thanks |
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| [18:10:33] | erasmus: | what about the devices you use and just stream |
| [18:10:40] | erasmus: | are they easier to use for what I want? |
| [18:11:19] | kisak: | I don't understand the question |
| [18:12:00] | erasmus: | well I just want to watch TV |
| [18:12:05] | erasmus: | cheap |
| [18:12:09] | erasmus: | local channels |
| [18:12:11] | erasmus: | no recording |
| [18:12:38] | kisak: | it makes no difference hardware-wise, an ATSC tuner is the same regardless of what connects to it |
| [18:12:50] | erasmus: | WinTV-HVR-955Q |
| [18:12:54] | erasmus: | would that work well? |
| [18:13:11] | kisak: | 13:03 < devinheitmuell-1> Bear in mind Hauppauge’s currently available USB tuner (the HVR-955) isn’t supported under Linux. |
| [18:13:18] | erasmus: | and then just buy a cheap RCA digital antenna? |
| [18:13:27] | erasmus: | oh |
| [18:13:32] | erasmus: | damn |
| [18:13:38] | erasmus: | that's kinda exactly what I want |
| [18:13:40] | devinheitmuell-1: | Yeah, you need the 950, as the 955 isn’t supported. |
| [18:13:48] | devinheitmuell-1: | The 950Q has the exact same feature set. |
| [18:14:01] | devinheitmuell-1: | It’s just a newer design. Same features. |
| [18:14:08] | erasmus: | use ebay? |
| [18:15:42] | erasmus: | I see one for $15 with $10 shipping |
| [18:15:45] | erasmus: | what jerks |
| [18:15:48] | erasmus: | $10 shipping |
| [18:15:54] | erasmus: | the thing is super small and light |
| [18:16:41] | erasmus: | also no remote |
| [18:18:15] | devinheitmuell-1: | Yeah, it’s typically the *handling* part that you’re dealing with when they charge for S&H. |
| [18:18:20] | erasmus: | so I should expect to pay about $50 I guess |
| [18:18:28] | devinheitmuell-1: | In other words, paying for somebody to go through the effor to package the device and get it into the mail. |
| [18:18:39] | erasmus: | for a good one with a remote and small antenna |
| [18:18:56] | erasmus: | yeah but they are selling it |
| [18:18:57] | devinheitmuell-1: | That’s pretty typical. |
| [18:19:26] | erasmus: | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hauppauge-WinTV-HVR-9 . . . em4634b7f8fa |
| [18:19:48] | devinheitmuell-1: | Be careful though – if you buy from a retail vendor or a mainstream website like Amazon or Newegg, you might purchase a 950q but end up receiving a 955. |
| [18:20:18] | devinheitmuell-1: | The retailer treats them the same, since they have the same feature set they figure you’re getting a “free upgrade to the latest model”, when in the case of Linux it results in a device you cannot use. |
| [18:21:07] | devinheitmuell-1: | It could be worse though, for a while they were shipping completely different hardware designs with the exact same model number. |
| [18:21:22] | devinheitmuell-1: | Thus you couldn’t even rely on the model number when purchasing. |
| [18:22:39] | erasmus: | thanks |
| [18:22:49] | erasmus: | I'll try and win a 950q |
| [18:23:34] | devinheitmuell-1: | You may be relatively safe with Amazon, since they will usually take the thing back at no cost, especially if you complain that you didn’t get the model you ordered. |
| [18:24:12] | erasmus: | I'll try my luck with ebay |
| [18:24:17] | devinheitmuell-1: | Good luck! |
| [18:26:35] | erasmus: | there is one on CL posted 2 months ago for $40 still in box |
| [18:26:43] | erasmus: | I just messaged |
| [18:31:58] | erasmus: | devinheitmuell-1 |
| [18:32:02] | erasmus: | one last thing |
| [18:32:11] | erasmus: | what is Nero LiquidTV? |
| [18:32:55] | erasmus: | is it a re-branded 950Q? |
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| [21:10:58] | FireWater: | What recording setting should I use to get mythtv to not record older episodes |
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| [21:29:03] | sutula: | erasmus: RE your earlier question...are you considering HDHR4–2US? |
| [21:29:14] | sutula: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . 15-_-Product |
| [21:29:22] | erasmus: | 950Q |
| [21:30:13] | erasmus: | lemme ask something |
| [21:30:22] | sutula: | I have no trouble with HDHR4 and myth |
| [21:30:26] | erasmus: | just curious what kind of response I'll get |
| [21:30:32] | erasmus: | I have a TiVo first gen |
| [21:30:39] | erasmus: | in my parnets basement |
| [21:30:58] | erasmus: | I think it still works. I got it when it first came out and I bought the lifetime subscription service |
| [21:31:15] | erasmus: | would if be at all worth it to hook that in and buy that unit you just listed? |
| [21:31:47] | devinheitmuell-1: | erasmus: First generation Tivos cannot receive OTA digital broadcasts. |
| [21:31:54] | ** sutula is unfamiliar with any TiVo products and has a licensing immune reaction to them ** | |
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| [21:32:34] | erasmus: | what if I found a newer unit |
| [21:32:44] | erasmus: | could I still use my lifetime subscription? |
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| [21:32:54] | erasmus: | I paid $500 for it ages ago |
| [21:33:05] | devinheitmuell-1: | Newer Tivos can receive OTA (in fact Tivo is seling on for OTA for $50 with subscription). That said, such discussion isn’t really on-topic for this channel. |
| [21:33:21] | devinheitmuell-1: | Lifetime subscriptions tend not to be transferrable. There are exceptions, but not commonplace. |
| [21:33:40] | devinheitmuell-1: | https://www.tivo.com/discover/antenna |
| [21:34:18] | devinheitmuell-1: | Oh, and that device can record *four* shows at once, whereas the HVR-950q and MythTV can only record one. |
| [21:34:34] | erasmus: | heh have you been to #tivo? It's dead in there |
| [21:35:01] | erasmus: | I wonder if it would be worth it to call them |
| [21:35:09] | devinheitmuell-1: | erasmus: most of the online discussion is over in the “Tivo Forums" |
| [21:35:12] | devinheitmuell-1: | (not IRC) |
| [21:35:29] | devinheitmuell-1: | http://www.tivocommunity.com/ |
| [21:35:36] | devinheitmuell-1: | Which strangely enough seems to be having some downtime. |
| [21:35:45] | erasmus: | yeah but it still shows a lack of caring doesn't it? |
| [21:36:04] | erasmus: | 12 users in a channel |
| [21:36:06] | devinheitmuell-1: | erasmus: I suspect the site just went down. I’m on it several times a week. |
| [21:36:24] | erasmus: | so you use the TiVo? |
| [21:36:31] | devinheitmuell-1: | A lack of caring among the #freenode crowd, yes. |
| [21:36:38] | erasmus: | I thought the mythtv was very much like the TiVo service |
| [21:36:46] | devinheitmuell-1: | I own a variety of solutions, including a Tivo. |
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| [21:37:54] | devinheitmuell-1: | There are about 10,000 users out there for every MythTV users. So if you’re talking popularity, then Tivo is a hands-down winner. They just don’t use IRC for their community but rather an online forum. |
| [21:38:16] | erasmus: | gotcha |
| [21:38:21] | erasmus: | ok thanks |
| [21:38:29] | erasmus: | so last question |
| [21:38:35] | devinheitmuell-1: | That said, if you want to talk to that crowd, the tivocommunity.com website is the place to go. |
| [21:38:41] | erasmus: | you have obviiously been into this for a while |
| [21:38:46] | ** devinheitmuell-1 isn’t looking to start a flamewar or be consided a troll... ** | |
| [21:38:49] | erasmus: | what do you like the best hardware wise? |
| [21:39:23] | devinheitmuell-1: | For MythTV? Assuming you don’t need analog support, the SiliconDust products are probably the easiest to get working, as well as the most reliable. |
| [21:39:31] | FireWater: | What is considered prime time in the recording filters |
| [21:39:35] | erasmus: | and what about antennas? |
| [21:40:01] | devinheitmuell-1: | What antenna you use is very highly dependent on your particular environment. There is no one-size-fits-all there. |
| [21:40:13] | devinheitmuell-1: | (i.e. distance from the transmitters, multipath conditions, etc) |
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| [21:40:34] | erasmus: | do you live in NA? |
| [21:41:02] | ** devinheitmuell-1 pretends he isn’t a former Hauppauge employee who just recommended that a user go out and buy a SiliconDust product. :-) ** | |
| [21:41:12] | devinheitmuell-1: | erasmus: Yeah, I’m in NYC. |
| [21:41:22] | erasmus: | oh cool |
| [21:41:29] | erasmus: | I lived in Brooklyn for many years |
| [21:41:43] | devinheitmuell-1: | For me I can practically jam a paper clip into the tuner’s RF input and pick up a good signal. |
| [21:41:50] | erasmus: | neat |
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