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| [00:20:51] | Smegzor: | I have managed to get a fresh install of a newer myth backend set up. Now I'm trying to fill it with listing data from a downloaded file. This line isn't working in the new version but does in the old.. mythfilldatabase --file 1 tvguide --update |
| [00:20:59] | Smegzor: | What do I need to change? |
| [00:22:52] | Smegzor: | I get this error Received '1' but unassociated arguments have not been enabled |
| [00:25:03] | Smegzor: | Which bit in mythtv-setup is source id? |
| [00:28:38] | Smegzor: | found source id and its valid |
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| [00:32:39] | Smegzor: | I've re-arranged the command. Hasn't helped yet. mythfilldatabase --file tvguide --sourceid 1 --only-update-guide |
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| [00:40:51] | Smegzor: | I ran mythfilldatabase — manual and its trying to connect to mysql on an IP that doesn't have a database server. its supposed to be looking at 127.0.0.1 |
| [00:41:43] | clever: | the database server is set in mythtv.xml i believe, and there may be duplicates pointing to other servers |
| [00:43:16] | Smegzor: | Where do I find that? |
| [00:44:13] | Smegzor: | found it |
| [00:47:23] | Smegzor: | hmm.. can't login to database but all the db stuff is correct |
| [00:47:36] | Smegzor: | and mythtv-backend can log in |
| [00:49:56] | Smegzor: | hmm.. that xml is in a folder in my home, not in the mythtv user's home. |
| [00:50:51] | Kwisher: | Smegzor: iirc, there are 3 copies of that file |
| [00:51:48] | Kwisher: | there is no /home/mythtv/.mythtv/config.xml ? |
| [00:54:36] | Smegzor: | yes. I'm getting closer. Now it is saying Boolean type options do not accept values and complaining about --file. The command is mythfilldatabase --file tvguide --sourceid 1 --only-update-guide |
| [00:55:05] | Smegzor: | the tvguide file is in the current folder in my terminal session |
| [00:59:43] | Smegzor: | This is very frustrating. I'm getting nowhere but nothing is wrong with anything except the mythfill command as far as I can tell. |
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| [01:02:14] | Smegzor: | Kwisher: No the config.xml only exists in my home folder. I'm doing everything logged in as me. |
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| [01:03:06] | Smegzor: | I found another copy |
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| [01:04:18] | Smegzor: | and the 3rd |
| [01:05:17] | Smegzor: | still can't get past it wanting --file to be a boolean type |
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| [01:06:34] | Smegzor: | I have 3 tuners but I need all of them. If I get one to grab guide data, I can't use it to watch or make recordings? |
| [01:07:04] | Smegzor: | I'm about to give up on reading the downloaded guide data. |
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| [01:20:20] | Smegzor: | hmm.. Mythtv thinks I have a MySQL database in my Brother printer and I can't convince it otherwise. |
| [01:20:42] | clever: | check EVERY config.xml on the system |
| [01:20:48] | clever: | find them with 'locate config.xml' |
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| [01:28:05] | Smegzor: | updated 3 more of them. no change |
| [01:28:23] | clever: | can you pastebin the full output of mythfilldatabase? |
| [01:28:36] | Smegzor: | sure.. |
| [01:29:20] | Smegzor: | all you will see are command line options. the only error is the first line |
| [01:29:43] | clever: | does it output anything not an error? |
| [01:30:11] | Smegzor: | don't know. also you may want this info.. mythfilldatabase version: fixes/0.27 [v0.27-193-g8ee257c] www.mythtv.org |
| [01:30:23] | clever: | i need to see the entire output |
| [01:30:30] | clever: | not just the line you think is an error |
| [01:31:55] | Smegzor: | the backend log is saying it can't connect to mysql |
| [01:32:11] | clever: | can you paste the entire backend log? |
| [01:32:19] | Smegzor: | which is odd because if I run mythtv-setup it can |
| [01:33:24] | Smegzor: | sure as soon as I can access it for copy paste |
| [01:37:54] | Smegzor: | clever: http://pastebin.com/1MKKdvC7 |
| [01:39:10] | clever: | Smegzor: do you have a mysql.txt in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/ ? |
| [01:41:02] | Smegzor: | No |
| [01:42:41] | clever: | Smegzor: what is the content of config.xml in that dir? |
| [01:43:15] | Smegzor: | clever: http://pastebin.com/ZkkFDk08 |
| [01:43:25] | Smegzor: | that's not what you just asked for though.. |
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| [01:44:08] | clever: | looks like your using --file the wrong way |
| [01:45:21] | Smegzor: | weird. I can't see any files in /home/mythtv even browsing as a sudo |
| [01:45:43] | clever: | use ls -a |
| [01:45:53] | Smegzor: | checking for hidden files |
| [01:47:05] | Smegzor: | the config in there redirects to the config in /etc/mythtv |
| [01:47:35] | Smegzor: | clever: http://pastebin.com/sY2jBXNs |
| [01:47:48] | clever: | and what about the config in /home/matthew/.mythtv/ ? |
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| [01:47:58] | Smegzor: | What is the right way? |
| [01:48:12] | clever: | Smegzor: aha, the config you just pasted has the ip of your printer in it |
| [01:48:17] | clever: | fix that file first |
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| [01:48:25] | Smegzor: | odd. I did that already |
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| [01:48:58] | Smegzor: | that ip 192.168.2.23 is the IP of the backend. The printer is 192.168.2.11 |
| [01:49:13] | clever: | ah, so it should be working |
| [01:49:19] | clever: | double check /home/matthew/.mythtv/ next |
| [01:49:47] | clever: | the error also says that it couldnt connect to the mysql server on .2.23, is it running? |
| [01:50:11] | guest56789: | odd is right Smegzor I've followed the guides to setup mythtv and its still saying the directory is not writable (its 775 permissions in the / as a last ditch attempt) I think its because its doing /mythtv//.test and extra "/" might be causing the issue but even if I remove it in settings it just adds it back in |
| [01:50:14] | Smegzor: | the ip's match but there is a difference. |
| [01:50:57] | clever: | guest56789: extra / wont do anything, are you sure your running it as the right user? |
| [01:51:34] | Smegzor: | clever: http://pastebin.com/hGC7uwSg |
| [01:52:03] | guest56789: | clever, what do you mean right user? I'm just doing mythtv-setup, do I need to login as the mythtv user to do that? |
| [01:52:06] | Smegzor: | What is the right user? I've always been able to remote to the old box and run my script. |
| [01:52:46] | guest56789: | I'm not trying to set it up as root, because well I don't think you should use root unless you need to |
| [01:54:16] | Smegzor: | clever: yes mysql is running on 2.23 I am connected via phpMyAdmin |
| [01:54:38] | clever: | guest56789: yes |
| [01:54:38] | clever: | Smegzor: all of the mythtv programs must be ran as the user that owns the recordings and has the config file |
| [01:54:58] | clever: | Smegzor: run 'netstat -anp|grep 3306' and pastebin the result |
| [01:55:14] | clever: | guest56789: if mythtv owns /mythtv, then you should run everything as mythtv |
| [01:55:57] | Smegzor: | clever: http://pastebin.com/zF5TSnJ5 |
| [01:56:24] | clever: | Smegzor: mythtv is configured to only listen on 127.0.0.1, you cant connect using the local ip |
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| [01:56:43] | clever: | Smegzor: you must either fix the mysql config, or set config.xml to 127.0.0.1 |
| [01:57:13] | Smegzor: | So I want to change it from that to 192.168.2.23 ? |
| [01:57:33] | clever: | you want to change config.xml to 127.0.0.1 |
| [01:58:14] | guest56789: | ahhh so it uses the permissions of the user that invokes it, thank you clever |
| [01:58:46] | clever: | guest56789: yes, thats how every app on linux works |
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| [02:02:54] | Smegzor: | Its easier for me to change mysql.conf. Should it be listening ti 0.0.0.0 ? |
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| [02:03:12] | Smegzor: | it was already set to 127.0.0.1 |
| [02:03:28] | clever: | Smegzor: 0.0.0.0 would work as well |
| [02:03:29] | guest56789: | the guides all said to chown to mythtv so the guides were poorly written... like I'm one to talk |
| [02:03:53] | Smegzor: | I tried that and after restarting myself, the mythfill script is unchanged |
| [02:04:10] | clever: | Smegzor: has the output of 'netstat -anp|grep 3306' changed? |
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| [02:05:20] | Smegzor: | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - |
| [02:05:43] | clever: | Smegzor: and ifconfig says that this machine is 192.168.2.23? |
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| [02:06:04] | Smegzor: | clever: yes |
| [02:06:29] | Smegzor: | clever: the same machine that hosts the backend and mysql server |
| [02:06:42] | clever: | Smegzor: i didnt see any mysql errors from mythfilldatabase, only mythbackend |
| [02:08:20] | Smegzor: | oh. um. I ran htop and pressed u. There is my mythtv user listed? |
| [02:08:38] | Smegzor: | But I have a mythtv home folder which installing the backend put there |
| [02:09:29] | clever: | yep, you must login as mythtv when running anything myth related |
| [02:10:24] | guest56789: | mythtv is saying that it can't connect to the master backend which is the same machine and its running |
| [02:10:46] | clever: | guest56789: is the backend running? |
| [02:11:36] | Smegzor: | I think I solved it. I was running gksu mythtv-setup. I re-ran it without sudo and it seemed to exit correctly this time. |
| [02:11:53] | clever: | that runs it as root, not as mythtv |
| [02:12:09] | Smegzor: | Now I have a mythtv user running mythbackend showing in htop |
| [02:13:19] | guest56789: | clever, yes it is, I get a warning that its already started when I try to start it |
| [02:13:21] | Smegzor: | Still now joy loading guide data |
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| [02:16:47] | Smegzor: | hmm.. the frontend on another pc is still doing the endless setup loop where you can't get past telling it where the backend is. |
| [02:17:36] | guest56789: | Smegzor, I had that issue until I fixed the mysql issue |
| [02:19:11] | Smegzor: | which fix was that? |
| [02:19:44] | Smegzor: | I already have mysql listening to everyone |
| [02:20:43] | clever: | you also have to tell mysql to allow access from certain IP's |
| [02:20:53] | clever: | it should be in the docs |
| [02:21:47] | guest56789: | turning on and setting it up =P |
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| [14:32:35] | jab416171: | mythtv performs surprisingly well when it has direct access to a hard disk |
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| [18:01:44] | mengoshmink: | you have had problems when the storage for recordings / playback was on a NAS? hmm that was going to be my next hardware upgrade, move the disks into a NAS |
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| [18:32:12] | buu: | How was it connected to the nas? |
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| [22:31:58] | jab416171: | mengoshmink, yeah, they were so slow on the NAS |
| [22:34:27] | jab416171: | I would get this error about twice an hour. I have an HDHR Prime with 3 tuners. |
| [22:34:28] | jab416171: | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/jab416171/ . . . istfile1.txt |
| [22:43:50] | mengoshmink: | hmm thats a bit worrying |
| [22:44:36] | mengoshmink: | buu has a good point, how was your myth connected to the NAS? |
| [22:46:25] | buu: | 10baseT |
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| [22:47:28] | buu: | If you can't write at least 100MB/s to your nas you've got issues |
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| [22:56:58] | stuartm: | depends how the disks are setup, consumer grade disks can max out well below 100MB/s |
| [22:57:27] | stuartm: | the worst at less than half that |
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| [22:59:00] | buu: | Sure, but they should be striped in a nas |
| [22:59:04] | buu: | Thus increasing it |
| [22:59:58] | buu: | What rate does mythtv typically write at anyways? |
| [23:00:40] | stuartm: | true, but for MythTV most people's priority is space not speed, I imagine very few are using striping |
| [23:01:53] | stuartm: | buu: well the same rate as broadcast tv, so a max of around 21Mbps – or less than 2.7MB/s |
| [23:02:09] | buu: | wow |
| [23:02:34] | buu: | Well I mean, any collection of disks in an array should involve some striping |
| [23:02:43] | buu: | I'm not sure how you'd put a bunch of disks together and not increase speed |
| [23:02:57] | buu: | Unless its insane freenas stuff =/ |
| [23:07:40] | stuartm: | jab416171: were you using NFS or Samba? Hint: The latter is utter crap |
| [23:08:22] | mengoshmink: | I only use mirroring on my storage raid arrays |
| [23:08:28] | stuartm: | seriously, anyone using Samba for *nix to *nix, or NAS to *nix – STOP |
| [23:08:32] | jab416171: | stuartm, nfs |
| [23:08:51] | mengoshmink: | haha, I use NFS even though I still haven't got my perfect setup with it, yet |
| [23:08:54] | jab416171: | mengoshmink, my hypervisor was the nas, and mythtv is a VM on that hypervisor |
| [23:09:00] | jab416171: | can't really get any more direct than that |
| [23:09:19] | mengoshmink: | hmm, interesting .... |
| [23:10:07] | stuartm: | nfs performance should be almost as good as direct access, but that assumes perfect network conditions – low traffic, proper switches, wired not wifi and good network cards |
| [23:10:49] | stuartm: | a surprising number of network performance issues are ultimately traced back to a crappy network card |
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| [23:11:31] | mengoshmink: | I don't know about having the perfect setup but the benifits of NFS far out weigh the problems I have – which are from my own doing not NFS |
| [23:12:50] | stuartm: | the one thing VMs tend to screw up more than anything is network performance – it's not a hard rule, but a reguarly observed pattern fwiw |
| [23:13:33] | jab416171: | stuartm, when it's the same hardware, none of that matters because it never leaves the box :P |
| [23:13:51] | stuartm: | you'd think not, but ... |
| [23:14:08] | jab416171: | the network stack is all that matters |
| [23:14:39] | mengoshmink: | I have to admit jab416171 but stuartm is right, I have had experiences similar to that he is explaining plus our IT guy at work was also talking to me about it the other day |
| [23:15:18] | mengoshmink: | laters dudes |
| [23:15:41] | jab416171: | it wasn't nearly as fast as direct access to the block device, but it's going to be way faster than NAS over the actual network |
| [23:16:18] | jab416171: | I wasn't trying to say that NAS is as fast as direct access, I was saying that the way I had NAS set up, there's very few external variables that could affect the performance, and thus very few things I could have tuned to improve it. |
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