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| [11:02:05] | mengo: | I'm back, with my mythweb problem ... nothing displayed except a "MythTV" link |
| [11:03:00] | Roklobotomy: | what happens? |
| [11:03:25] | Roklobotomy: | did you install/uninstall/install? |
| [11:03:31] | Roklobotomy: | what version? |
| [11:04:12] | mengo: | I'm not new to mythtv but I am new to mythtv on debian (linux mint version) so I'm testing things in a VM before I go live |
| [11:04:39] | mengo: | from the web, but I get the same result >> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . ;list=mythtv |
| [11:04:54] | mengo: | I believe its from the repo so its 0.27.0 |
| [11:05:03] | Roklobotomy: | you didn't try 0.28? |
| [11:05:27] | Roklobotomy: | i'm using mythbuntu. give that a go instead as it's made for myth. |
| [11:05:54] | mengo: | I don't want to use mythbuntu, I don't feel it would be suitable for my needs |
| [11:06:26] | mengo: | I have been using scientificlinux, centos ... |
| [11:07:06] | mengo: | Current Release: 0.27.4+ < where did 0.28 come from? |
| [11:07:09] | Roklobotomy: | what defines suiyable? |
| [11:07:23] | Roklobotomy: | 0.28 is the current devel/beta version |
| [11:08:23] | mengo: | I'm not about to get into a debate about which distro I should be running, imho changing distro to use a single piece of software is not the solution unless the server is for that one purpose |
| [11:09:05] | Roklobotomy: | oh you are using mint for other things too |
| [11:09:14] | mengo: | well, I think it pulls 0.27 from its testing repo so if I wanted 0.28 I would have to do a manual install, which I have considered but would also change my setup considerably |
| [11:09:29] | mengo: | its more for the debian than the mint |
| [11:09:41] | Roklobotomy: | being debian the mythbuntu packages might work |
| [11:09:48] | Roklobotomy: | for 0.28 |
| [11:09:59] | mengo: | mint debian edition is not compatible with ubuntu packages |
| [11:11:50] | Roklobotomy: | poop |
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| [11:12:43] | Roklobotomy: | well i guess you'll have to start mucking around with apache to see why it's not working |
| [11:12:50] | Roklobotomy: | does the backend and frontend work ok? |
| [11:14:25] | mengo: | I have been playing with it for the last couple of days, I had a problem with the backend but I fixed that with help from tvzombie. I havent tried a frontend yet because that will be on my desktop PC but I use mythweb a lot so I thought I would check that works for me before I go live |
| [11:14:58] | mengo: | I feel it has to be something obvious but I cant see what |
| [11:18:16] | Roklobotomy: | compare you exitsing mythweb config with the mint one |
| [11:18:39] | mengo: | my existing one is much simpler but essentially the same |
| [11:19:16] | mengo: | but I could be missing something, debian is different to rhel and 0.26 is different to 0.27 |
| [11:23:11] | mengo: | I have a feeling there is an apache module I'm missing but all the ones needed appear to be enabled |
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| [12:24:01] | k-man: | in blue abstract, is there some way to get the program finder ? |
| [12:26:35] | k-man: | nm, found it |
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| [13:04:53] | mengo: | ok, I'm giving up, I'm going to post on linuxquestions and linuxformat |
| [13:13:02] | mengo: | oh, now something else (minor) is broken ... |
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| [16:04:40] | RNeville: | hi |
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| [16:37:26] | mengo: | hi |
| [16:39:19] | RNeville: | Hi, again, mengo |
| [16:39:33] | RNeville: | It's a little slow in here – if you don't mind me saying! |
| [16:39:47] | mengo: | its faster than some rooms I'm in |
| [16:40:02] | RNeville: | Wow |
| [16:40:05] | mengo: | but I have posted my problem on some forums to see what the wider community says |
| [16:40:24] | mengo: | oh yeah, some rooms I'm in are very quiet |
| [16:40:24] | RNeville: | very smart of you mengo |
| [16:40:29] | mengo: | smart? hmm maybe |
| [16:42:06] | RNeville: | Looking forward to getting Mythtv up and running on my Ubuntu machine, someday! |
| [16:42:09] | mengo: | I must admit I'm really glad I'm testing things before I go live, its amazing how much I use mythtv even if it is just the recording and video parts |
| [16:42:32] | mengo: | I expect it would be easy on ubuntu / mythbuntu |
| [16:42:42] | RNeville: | Have wanted to run mythtv for years, now |
| [16:42:50] | mengo: | why havent u? |
| [16:42:59] | RNeville: | Haven't had the resources |
| [16:43:05] | mengo: | ah |
| [16:43:13] | RNeville: | Not sure I do , now, but getting closer |
| [16:43:23] | mengo: | I must admit I could only recently afford it |
| [16:43:33] | mengo: | but now I have it I wouldn't look back |
| [16:43:41] | mengo: | nothing like dedicated hardware |
| [16:43:52] | RNeville: | I spend almost nothing on media, don't even have cable |
| [16:44:10] | mengo: | I only have free to air |
| [16:44:40] | mengo: | most stuff I find is available soon enough eg new James Bond was on tv the other day |
| [16:44:41] | RNeville: | Yes, I would like to have dedicated hardward, myself – for a dvr to be effective it probably needs to be ran on dedicated hardware |
| [16:45:21] | RNeville: | I really just want to have over the air broadcast; if I had a good outdoor antenna that would be really cool |
| [16:45:27] | mengo: | even before I considered running a pvr I had problems using older hardware for my servers but I did have a couple of good ones once |
| [16:46:04] | RNeville: | I really don't want to watch much anymore, but I don't want to watch that little bit live, that is for sure |
| [16:46:05] | mengo: | our antenna isnt great but it seems to be sufficient |
| [16:46:05] | mengo: | lol, yeah, I'm the same |
| [16:46:18] | RNeville: | I don't want to watch anything live, really! |
| [16:46:54] | RNeville: | I want to run linux , and have an opensource drv system – just for bragging rights, if that makes sense! |
| [16:47:01] | mengo: | mythweb is great, search the listings for films, click to schedule do nothing load up mythtv find there is loads of stuff to watch |
| [16:47:14] | mengo: | sort of |
| [16:48:31] | RNeville: | yes, I don't want to spend a lot of money on TV; however, if I had more disposable income I probably would have cable, or at least stream more pay for content |
| [16:49:01] | RNeville: | but nothing , live – almost |
| [16:49:59] | RNeville: | I would like to have a tivo, but tivo probably isn't the best way to watch tv anymore |
| [16:50:05] | mengo: | I have a love film account, but I need to see if I can still afford it |
| [16:51:08] | RNeville: | Although, Steve Gibson and Leo Laborte believe the new deluxe tivo are the best way to watch tv |
| [16:51:31] | mengo: | I've only heard of tivo, never tried it |
| [16:52:00] | RNeville: | These guys seems to have had ever electronic device made, so when they give a recommendation you probably want to take it! |
| [16:53:01] | RNeville: | At one time, years ago, tivo was the best dvr system money could really buy for recording content on tv – that is what I've been lead to believe, but not sure that's so , now. |
| [16:53:26] | RNeville: | Many free dvrs offer now through cable packages , that probably work well! |
| [16:53:27] | mengo: | things have changed |
| [16:53:59] | mengo: | I don't get on well with some modern stuff because I am arrogant and like to do things my way |
| [16:54:03] | RNeville: | But I hate proprietary system that are closed! |
| [16:54:50] | mengo: | I tolerate some closed things, eg one of my TV cards is closed but it is pretty decent so I can sort of forgive them |
| [16:55:19] | RNeville: | maybe that is a good exception on the TV cards! |
| [16:55:45] | mengo: | well, hauppage cards are not like that |
| [16:55:55] | RNeville: | are hauppage cards good? |
| [16:56:04] | mengo: | I think the newer cards from TBS are not either |
| [16:56:20] | mengo: | I have had 2 hauppage cards and they have been pretty good |
| [16:56:36] | mengo: | would buy another if they had what I wanted |
| [16:57:13] | RNeville: | mengo: thx for the info! |
| [16:57:34] | mengo: | erm, no problem, what info? |
| [16:57:51] | RNeville: | about hauppage cards and TBS |
| [16:58:08] | RNeville: | Didn't know about TBS cards, will have to investigate |
| [16:58:20] | mengo: | oh sure, I can get you better info if you want |
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| [16:58:46] | RNeville: | yes, if not to much trouble |
| [16:59:13] | mengo: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards < this is good |
| [16:59:19] | RNeville: | thx |
| [16:59:42] | mengo: | http://www.buydvb.net/tbs6280-pcie-dvbt2t-dua . . . ard_p38.html < this is my over air HD receiver |
| [17:00:35] | mengo: | my old SD hauppage cards are no longer listed but one was a Nova 500-T |
| [17:01:06] | RNeville: | good info! |
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| [17:01:29] | mengo: | really? well, I'm glad to help, it makes me feel better :) |
| [17:03:34] | RNeville: | I'll try to spend more time in this channel! |
| [17:04:10] | mengo: | from who I have spoken to people are pretty decent in here |
| [17:04:21] | RNeville: | cool |
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| [17:15:52] | mengo: | http://www.linhes.org/projects/linhes/news < I thought this project had died? |
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| [17:34:54] | Janhn: | Hey Anybody online right now? |
| [17:35:02] | Janhn: | Do I need a expensive capture card to run a mythtv server? |
| [17:35:10] | Janhn: | Because Tvheadend just needs a Tuner Card |
| [17:35:18] | Janhn: | I own a DVBS2 — TT Conect S2–3650CI |
| [17:35:26] | Janhn: | Is it useful with the server or not? |
| [17:35:43] | Kwisher: | if it works on linux it will work for mythtv |
| [17:35:58] | [R]: | the linuxtv website has a list of compatabile cards |
| [17:36:15] | Janhn: | Yes it works on linux, it is already in use on a tvheadend ubuntu server |
| [17:36:59] | Janhn: | So will the processor do the capture work or why do they always recommend that haupauge stuff? |
| [17:37:15] | [R]: | what? |
| [17:37:20] | [R]: | dvb is digital |
| [17:37:28] | [R]: | your cpu doesnt do anytyhihgn |
| [17:37:54] | Janhn: | No device is needed to capture the signal / stream? |
| [17:38:11] | [R]: | of course you need a device |
| [17:38:12] | [R]: | you just lsited one |
| [17:38:40] | Janhn: | If I have the card mentioned above and a basic linux system it will work (as long as it is supported)? |
| [17:38:53] | [R]: | mythtv works with whatever works with linux |
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| [17:42:30] | Janhn: | So I just need a tv tuner card like mine to record the signal and no additional capture card? I am sorry for repetitive asking but I have the feeling I didn't understand it yet. |
| [17:43:05] | [R]: | the mythtv website explains it pretty well... |
| [17:43:09] | [R]: | what else do yo tuhink you wuold need? |
| [17:43:21] | [R]: | you already said tvheadend isworking... |
| [17:43:38] | mengo: | you don't need an additional capture card, just the one you have |
| [17:43:46] | Janhn: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S2_USB_Devices |
| [17:44:09] | Janhn: | It is mentioned in this list so I am perfectly fine, right? |
| [17:44:23] | [R]: | well if its already working with tvheadend |
| [17:44:25] | [R]: | the nti wrosk |
| [17:44:35] | [R]: | then it works* |
| [17:44:36] | mengo: | exactly |
| [17:44:37] | Janhn: | Thanks a lot for your help! |
| [17:45:00] | Janhn: | You both :) |
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| [17:45:45] | mengo: | something tells me he will be back |
| [17:46:11] | [R]: | ya think? |
| [17:47:17] | mengo: | what distro do you use mythtv on [R] ? |
| [17:47:51] | [R]: | right now im using ubuntu |
| [17:47:59] | [R]: | its easy for me to do netboot |
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| [17:53:41] | Kwisher: | xubuntu here |
| [18:00:15] | mengo: | hmm, I respect ubuntu for what it has done but I feel that when I use it I don't know what is going on |
| [18:00:54] | [R]: | huh? |
| [18:01:11] | Kwisher: | i use xubuntu for the simple setup |
| [18:01:47] | Kwisher: | don't really care for the way canotical does things |
| [18:01:53] | mengo: | well, a lot of things "just worked" which was great but then if you had a problem I felt less in control of where to look |
| [18:02:10] | mengo: | you sound conflicted Kwisher |
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| [18:04:47] | mengo: | food time |
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| [18:38:28] | mengoshmink: | mmm tasty |
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| [19:17:12] | mengoshmink: | ok, I'm now more convinced it is a missing apache thing but I'm still cluless as to what |
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| [21:10:12] | AnthonyUK: | Hi all, I have rebooted to add a tv tuner, but now all my EIT guide has gone to unknown in the frontend or No Data in mythweb, I was also trying to get a new wireless keyboard and mouse to work and had to force a reboot have I corrupted mythtv somehow? |
| [21:11:05] | [R]: | its possible you corrupetd the database |
| [21:11:16] | AnthonyUK: | I have removed all but on tv tuner and done a rescan but still the guide data is empty. I tried hitting repair data in mythweb but it's done nothing |
| [21:11:27] | AnthonyUK: | can it be repaird [R]? |
| [21:11:39] | [R]: | if its just the guide data |
| [21:11:41] | [R]: | wait for it to come back |
| [21:11:57] | AnthonyUK: | how long will that take? |
| [21:12:21] | [R]: | how should i know how long it takes your system to grab eit |
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| [21:16:28] | AnthonyUK: | I just checked now most of my recordings are still listed and fine. am worried about the guide data though as I deleted all channels before and did a fresh new scan for DVB channels, usually once the scan is finished I see the guide data right away |
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| [21:17:53] | mengoshmink: | I "lost" all my guide data once but then I realised it was just refreshing |
| [21:18:08] | mengoshmink: | I try and be very patient when that happens now |
| [21:21:12] | AnthonyUK: | I hope you are right I really do I'm just worried that all my settings are lost forever and I'll have to start over completely with a new database. |
| [21:22:28] | AnthonyUK: | In Information Center > System Status > Listings Status tab it has one line in yellow writing "Warning: is mythfilldatabase running?" |
| [21:22:50] | mengoshmink: | I panic more when my recordings disappear |
| [21:23:07] | mengoshmink: | mine always looks like that > one line in yellow writing "Warning: is mythfilldatabase running? |
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| [21:38:10] | mengoshmink: | http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16843 < any ideas, please PM me |
| [21:39:21] | AnthonyUK: | I fixed it |
| [21:43:54] | AnthonyUK: | Not that this issue belongs here, but lately when I reboot my homeserver I have to in ubuntu click on wired connection 1 that I have set with a local static ip. this gets the lan working. but today I was changing hardware around and the clock went back to 2am in 2009 hehe no wonder no channel had any guide info |
| [21:44:03] | AnthonyUK: | sorry for the run around |
| [21:46:01] | mengoshmink: | you mean its not 2008? |
| [21:47:17] | AnthonyUK: | thats what I'm saying :P. normally I spend time trying to look up my problems before coming here, but when I switch my homeserver up for a hardware change I check I have a few hours gap in the guide first. this is what got me a bit panicky |
| [21:47:48] | AnthonyUK: | I checked as well the yellow warning about is mythfilldatabase running has gone as well |
| [21:48:39] | AnthonyUK: | mythtv 0.27 is great though, more stable like they promised |
| [21:49:41] | AnthonyUK: | well that plus I got some newer hardware which means my server runs for weeks before needing reboots |
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| [22:01:41] | mengoshmink: | show off, I'm having problems with my base distro / mythweb before I move over to 0.27 |
| [22:03:15] | AnthonyUK: | hehe I read your post earlier, I have no clue with scientific w/e linux, I tried mint once, it was nice. I stay on ubuntu simply because more people use it so I'm more likely to find posts on the internet about how other people had and solved problems that I have ran into |
| [22:04:47] | mengoshmink: | I've had no major problems with scientific linux but I want to see if debian is more stable, mint debian edition seems to be a logical route because it is a little pre-configured |
| [22:05:03] | mengoshmink: | however I may try debian again tomorrow |
| [22:05:36] | mengoshmink: | I'm 99% sure its not specific to distro or mythtv but something missing but I just cant figure out what |
| [22:05:48] | mengoshmink: | anyway, its early but I'm giving up, gnigt |
| [22:05:53] | AnthonyUK: | gnight |
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