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Wednesday, December 3rd, 2014, 00:06 UTC
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[01:02:11] sean_: Need a bit of help, trying to help a friend setup mythtv, he is having problems adding metadata to his video library as a batch process. He has to retrieve details on each file separately. I looked into it and realized it does not work for me either. Any suggestions on how to do this would be welcome. Thanks
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[01:05:52] Roklobsta: sean_: do you really need metadata?
[01:06:06] Roklobsta: it seems redundant
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[01:06:30] Roklobsta: i wish it would go away and stop bugging me when i do a rescan of the videos.
[01:12:47] ctmjr: sean_: i had the same problem i removed the storage group from the backend and rescanned the video library, then added it back in and it retrieved all the metadata. It is a pain and do not know why I had to do that but it worked for me
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[02:24:04] sean_: Roklobsta, lol, I like having my metadata, increases the wife approval factor considerably
[02:24:19] Roklobsta: it lowers mine, especially on rescan
[02:24:54] Roklobsta: i want to know how to turn video library meta data off. we know what oure DVDs are!
[02:25:02] Roklobsta: don't wannit
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[02:28:58] sean_: lol, I guess to each is own. I think it looks rather boring without the graphics and info. It polishes it quite nicely
[02:30:52] Roklobsta: the Blues Brothers needs no introduction
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[04:42:59] NoFinessin: i think autofs is causing my recordings to be boogered up
[04:44:44] [R]: what possible reason could one need to use autofs
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[06:02:17] sean_: Can anyone make any suggestions about getting my metadata to fetch for mythvideo. All suggestions are welcome. Thanks
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[07:33:31] hachi: so, my frontend isn't exiting video mode properly, I can't get back to the main menu
[07:33:41] hachi: anyone able to help me figure out why?
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[15:09:48] drewzhrodague: .
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[17:05:24] toeb: hi, is anyone using zoneminder 1.28 with mythtv? I can't get it to work, mythzmserver tells me: "This version of ZM is to old you need 1.24.0 or later ''"
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[17:50:55] sean_: Ok, so I hunted my metadata problems down a bit. I am using mythbuntu 14.04 and to start it seems that a cache file was missing so I had to "touch /home/home_dir/.mythtv/pytmdb3.cache"
[17:55:53] sean_: my next problem, which think maybe a bug is that the imdb3 script is getting called like this: "/usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -l en -a US -M big buck bunny" without the name in quotes
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[18:15:58] sean_: Sorry my previous post was poorly written. I think there could be a bug in the script that is calling the tmdb3.py script. From my testing it seems that the name of the video needs to be in quotations. ie /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -l en -a US -M "big buck bunny" and not /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -l en -a US -M big buck bunny
[18:16:05] paul-h: toeb: check /etc/zm.conf has a line like ZM_VERSION=1.27.0 – the mythzmserver uses that to check the version but newer versions of ZM don't have that line added to the config file
[18:17:27] paul-h: I'm still using 1.27.0 myself and don't know if anyone has tried 1.28.0 yet
[18:20:49] paul-h: The ZM web site says 1.27.0 is the latest version according to the download section?
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[18:27:39] sean_: paul-h, there was a change in developers, my understanding is a lot of the newer developments are shown on their github page https://github.com/ZoneMinder/ZoneMinder
[18:29:05] paul-h: Yeah I see that now thanks
[18:29:14] sean_: np
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[18:57:16] justinh: that's twice in as many days I've had to restart X now. Bah
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[19:20:23] squidly: quick question about a slave backend. Does it need a static IP to work properly?
[19:20:37] drewzhrodague: I believe it does.
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[19:21:22] drewzhrodague: Unless you have hostnames dynamically mapped (getting the same hostname every time). The settings table has a hostname entry. IPs wwould get cluttered.
[19:24:31] justinh: how can it be that a script which launches mythfrontend could get it so badly wrong? I've just had THREE mythfrontend.real processes open
[19:27:35] justinh: maybe I should check for updates & see if that issue's been fixed
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[20:28:43] Quantum`: I seem to have a number of files in the database which no longer exist:
[20:28:47] Quantum`: ERROR when trying to delete file: GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON
[20:29:03] Quantum`: How can I clear these from Myth?
[20:30:44] drewzhrodague: There's a remove-orphans script, lemme get a path...
[20:31:12] drewzhrodague: mythtv-find-orphans.py
[20:31:20] Quantum`: Ty
[20:31:46] drewzhrodague: That's helped me, especially when a disk fails, etc.
[20:32:44] Quantum`: Doesn't seem to be in the 0.27 source code.
[20:33:38] justinh: if you have *buntu installed mythtv it's in /usr/share/doc/mythtv
[20:33:47] justinh: doc? Yes. doc !
[20:34:14] justinh: oh wait. No it's not. You have to find it somewhere else
[20:35:15] justinh: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py
[20:35:30] justinh: why isn't this packaged?
[20:35:53] Quantum`: Ah, nice.
[20:42:50] justinh: is there any way to find out what frequency mythbackend is tuned to on each tuner?
[20:43:16] justinh: I'm getting non-zero BER readings from femon. They were all fine at the weekend
[20:46:52] Quantum`: find_orphans.py just seems to hang, after failing to find /var/mail/MythTV and /var/mail/socket.
[20:47:27] drewzhrodague: Hm, that's the wrong path for mail (shold be /var/spool/mail/<user>
[20:47:45] drewzhrodague: (either that, or I am just old)
[20:48:59] Quantum`: In Debian /var/spool/mail points to /var/mail.
[20:50:04] drewzhrodague: I may have edited mythtv-find-orphans.py to work on RHEL/CentOS.
[20:51:11] Quantum`: I'm on Debian.
[20:52:01] Quantum`: It just hangs. There's another way to remove orphans through mythfrontend, but I can't remember it.
[20:55:24] drewzhrodague: One thing you could do is parse the logs, and use the 'touch' command to create zero-lenght files – then delete them from MythTV.
[21:02:24] justinh: or just delete them using mythfrontend
[21:02:56] drewzhrodague: It generates an error when the files aren't there – I believe it just leaves the recording in the database.
[21:03:32] Quantum`: No there's a way for files to be orphaned and not show up in the frontend. There's an involved procedure to expose them, but I've forgotten.
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[21:10:54] justinh: it displays an error but still allows you to delete them
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[21:16:02] Quantum`: I'm saying some orphaned files are -invisible to the recordings display.
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[21:32:34] justinh: that'd be the deleted group then :-)
[21:33:12] Quantum`: How would one find that?
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[21:34:09] justinh: display it in mythfrontend of course. Press MENU until the group filters menu shows
[21:38:13] justinh: oh for pity's sake. I'm trying to shop for a new TV aerial – one that'll fit properly in my loft so I can aim it better – and does any seller of said aerials list the overall length of the damn things? NO
[21:38:16] ** stuarta waves to justinh **
[21:38:45] justinh: my dad gave me an old aerial for us moving in, but it's a whopper & only fits between beams one way – not quite facing the right direction
[21:38:51] justinh: hey stuarta. long time!
[21:39:00] stuarta: yeah, long time no see
[21:39:16] justinh: how's family life?
[21:39:26] stuarta: 2 makes one a busy boy
[21:39:33] justinh: tell me about it
[21:39:37] stuarta: you?
[21:39:41] justinh: one 4, one two
[21:39:46] Quantum`: Aerial?! Got to be extremely limited in channels.
[21:40:15] justinh: Quantum`: oh no, with the super low bitrates they manage to cram about 90 services into the space of 5 analogue channels
[21:40:19] stuarta: one 5 one 2 on NYE
[21:40:33] justinh: that was impeccable timing
[21:40:41] Quantum`: 88 of them prob junk...
[21:40:53] stuarta: nah only 40 or 50 junk
[21:41:05] justinh: Quantum`: as opposed to paid for TV, where an even bigger proportion of channels are junk
[21:41:09] Quantum`: Anyway, you don't need an aerial for digital channels. Just a yagi.
[21:41:09] stuarta: < 10 shopping channels
[21:41:23] Quantum`: Much shorter.
[21:41:31] justinh: you need directors etc for UHF TV
[21:42:04] justinh: the length of this aerial is one thing, meaning it won't fit properly – but it's also too directional
[21:42:06] Quantum`: Yea, but no hude diploes, unless 1 channel uses VHF.
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[21:42:27] justinh: VHF is only for radio here
[21:42:30] Quantum`: I think you can check antennaweb or somesuch.
[21:42:45] justinh: and we lucky people where I live have the luxury of 4G phone mast interference too!
[21:42:46] drewzhrodague: Where is here, Justinh ?
[21:42:50] Quantum`: Our PBS comes in on VHF. (Seattle)
[21:42:52] justinh: Co. Durham, UK
[21:43:09] stuarta: cool. my brother has just moved to seattle
[21:43:12] drewzhrodague: UK – not familiar with TV transmissions outside of US, S'why I asked =_)
[21:43:18] drewzhrodague: DVB-T, right?
[21:43:28] justinh: fscking 4G. They sell off the TV spectrum to mobile phone tech, which then interferes with the remaining TV
[21:43:36] Quantum`: No, not another techie transplant! Did you tell him it rains all the time?
[21:43:42] justinh: DVB-T and DVB-T2
[21:43:58] drewzhrodague: If they are interfering, you should be able to report them to your local governing body.
[21:44:01] justinh: looks like I'm off to the states next week for a fortnight.
[21:44:08] justinh: drewzhrodague: it's been legislated for
[21:44:24] drewzhrodague: FCC in the US does not take kindly to interference, but mostly to commercial orgs.
[21:44:37] justinh: anybody here know what Berwick in the deep south is like?
[21:44:51] justinh: drewzhrodague: it's the UK government's plan!
[21:45:30] justinh: they said oh no there'll be interference. The 4G people said "ok we'll hand out free filters which may or may not help". OFCOM said "great! Here's your spectrum then"
[21:45:56] Quantum`: Idk of a Berwick in the Deep South.
[21:46:10] justinh: Berwick, Louisiana
[21:46:33] Quantum`: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwick,_Louisiana
[21:46:44] justinh: yeah. I read that. Now I'm not sure I wanna go
[21:46:53] Quantum`: Ah'm from Texas, and I never heard of it...
[21:47:33] justinh: pop 4,839 ... in the state with the highest murder rate they must have had to make their sign digital by now
[21:47:33] Quantum`: New Orleans, of course. French Quarter.
[21:48:07] justinh: out there about 2 weeks for the sum total of about 6 hours work. Gah
[21:48:21] stuarta: drink rum, appreciate
[21:48:42] Quantum`: I think absynthe is legal there.
[21:49:00] justinh: the customer has some welding to do, so I'm there to check out our stuff before & after the welding once they haul it off the sea bed
[21:49:12] stuarta: lucky you
[21:49:15] Quantum`: Use lots of mosquito repellant...
[21:49:23] justinh: even in this season?
[21:51:16] Quantum`: There's an old commercial where a Lousianer is eating dinner with lots of Tobasco hot sauce. A mosquito comes and bites him, but he doesn't bother with it. It flies off and *explodes*!
[21:51:36] Quantum`: (Tabasco)
[21:51:52] stuarta: ah proper hot sauce, now there's a reason to go dining :)
[21:53:16] justinh: heh. Table for one. Oh my name? NOMATES. First name BILLY. lol
[21:53:40] stuarta: find a friend? lonediners.com? (i made that up)
[21:54:21] justinh: actually I'm not arsed about all that anymore. Travelled enough alone to get used to it
[21:55:01] justinh: but I expect they'll be a lot more social than the last time I visited the US.. there to be trained by people the firm I worked for (Sun) were making redundant
[21:55:06] Quantum`: I need to quit playing hooky.
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[21:55:28] stuarta: yeah, there would be no fun in a visit at that time
[21:56:10] justinh: Encore Technology. Never seen servers like those before or since. Simply awful
[21:58:55] justinh: anyway, so the boy is 4, the girl is 2. Went through hell last year when I got a job back up real North – 7 months living apart & going back at weekends til we sold the old house
[21:59:22] stuarta: ouch, that would suck really badly
[21:59:36] justinh: had to be done. bigger picture & all that
[21:59:52] justinh: so now we're less than an hour's drive to either side of the family :)
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[22:00:09] stuarta: :)
[22:00:12] justinh: crime here is non-existent compared to manchester
[22:00:36] justinh: changed address on all the insurance on moving day & they were all "oh, now your premiums are one third of what they used to be"
[22:00:47] stuarta: \o/
[22:01:15] justinh: it's daft friendly up here too. Completely random folks say hello.. even teenagers in hoodies
[22:01:39] justinh: and now I live 10 minutes bike ride from work :-D
[22:02:10] justinh: As opposed to 35 miles each way across awful motorways which'd take anything from 30 minutes to 90 mins+
[22:02:19] stuarta: yeah, i moved 5 years ago, and the teenagers in town saw mother in law with the shopping and asked if she needed a hand to a cab. in london, they'd be nicking the shopping
[22:02:33] justinh: wow
[22:02:39] justinh: where did you move to?
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[22:02:57] stuarta: hampshire, the bit thats not far from surrey ;-)
[22:03:02] justinh: heh
[22:03:25] justinh: I'm living in the 'cradle of the railways'
[22:04:23] justinh: need to get used to it being colder up here though still
[22:04:47] justinh: a hell of a lot drier, but colder :D
[22:05:01] stuarta: ah you suffering those silly freezing temps this week?
[22:05:17] justinh: minus 2 this morning when I left for work
[22:05:26] stuarta: weatherman say, dis bit in da middle, be cold
[22:05:42] justinh: we expect it up here. it's december now
[22:05:49] stuarta: :)
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[22:08:32] justinh: ooo. the town where I'm going at least has some civilised looking hotels nearby
[22:09:24] justinh: daily rate for me is good too. Might compensate for the boredom. I just hope it doesn't take any longer than planned & there are no travel holdups
[22:18:13] justinh: wow. nice one Currys.. for being the only outfit detailing the length of the aerials they sell
[22:18:35] stuarta: that is outrageous
[22:19:01] stuarta: it's in the same league as me finding something cheaper at pc world than online
[22:19:28] stuarta: right now wtf does f20 screensaver kickin while i'm watching a program
[22:20:24] justinh: their prices are outrageous though. Double what Amazon want
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[22:22:20] justinh: I've not even set foot in a PC world or currys for years. I can't bear to hear the sales staff lie
[22:23:13] stuarta: they come anywhere near me, i say no thanks, i don't need any help
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[22:29:38] justinh: heh it's just even if I overhear them. I feel punchy
[22:31:47] stuarta: luckily in these lean time, there are so few of them around i can normally roam the whole store without coming within 10m of one
[22:31:53] stuarta: *times
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[23:31:56] justinh: stuarta: this talk of aerials reminded me of the wolverhampton gig where we lashed up an aerial & actually got livetv working indoors
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