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| [01:22:21] | shiggitay: | Guess who's back... back again... Shiggitay's back.... tell a friend |
| [01:23:01] | shiggitay: | lol |
| [01:23:39] | shiggitay: | Okay so if anyone's around (I know I can just ask and wait) I just had an idea... instead of be buying expensive HDD enclosures I thought it'd be cool if I could build my own. |
| [01:25:30] | shiggitay: | I have an Intel Core 2 Quad motherboard (with processor and 4GB RAM) I got from a neighbor as well as an ATX case I'm not using at the moment. How would I go about turning that into a MythTV-accessible storage solution? From how I see it all I'd need is a small SSD for an OS (Linux/Windows etc) and then get some drives and/or SATA cards and go from there |
| [01:25:32] | shiggitay: | thoughts? |
| [01:25:50] | shiggitay: | be = me |
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| [01:53:02] | shiggitay: | hello ctmjr |
| [01:53:33] | ctmjr: | hello |
| [01:53:57] | shiggitay: | <shiggitay> Okay so if anyone's around (I know I can just ask and wait) I just had an idea... instead of be buying expensive HDD enclosures I thought it'd be cool if I could build my own. |
| [01:53:57] | shiggitay: | <shiggitay> I have an Intel Core 2 Quad motherboard (with processor and 4GB RAM) I got from a neighbor as well as an ATX case I'm not using at the moment. How would I go about turning that into a MythTV-accessible storage solution? From how I see it all I'd need is a small SSD for an OS (Linux/Windows etc) and then get some drives and/or SATA cards and go from there |
| [01:53:57] | shiggitay: | <shiggitay> thoughts? |
| [01:54:35] | shiggitay: | haha whoops didn't see you were here the first time I posted that @ ctmjr |
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| [02:18:52] | Roklobsta: | oh Geelong wireless meeting. damn, 4 years too late for me. |
| [02:18:56] | Roklobsta: | sorry |
| [02:18:58] | Roklobsta: | wrong chan |
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| [03:37:22] | NoFinessin: | stuartm: you around, got a question about upnp |
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| [05:22:20] | saintdev: | Hi, I'm having with mythfilldatabase sometimes failing to download my listings from schedules direct. My last log is at http://pastebin.com/8JGVrUaw |
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| [12:44:02] | stuartm: | NoFinessin: not at 03:30 GMT, that's when I hope to be sound asleep |
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| [14:05:44] | justinh: | yikes. what a PITA getting tv_grab_uk_atlas to work is |
| [14:06:09] | justinh: | sign up, request an API key, add PA to the API key link... |
| [14:06:23] | justinh: | compared to uk_rt it's a chew on |
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| [14:07:37] | justinh: | and slow? It's like uk_rt was back when mythtv was still on 0.14 |
| [14:08:48] | justinh: | ah the price of 'free' data |
| [14:09:23] | justinh: | then there's the pain of remapping channels to new xmltvids. Meh. When rt breaks maybe I'll just go back to EIT data |
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| [14:37:02] | paul-h: | justinh: you still use the old rt id's in Myth the Atlas grabber will map between the two |
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| [14:43:12] | paul-h: | justinh: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/577396#577396 |
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| [15:05:50] | stuartm: | justinh: I've been hoping to get uk_rt to continue, need to see what progress Nick is making on that though, might have to take it on myself |
| [15:06:45] | stuartm: | although if I'm the only one who cares about it then maybe I won't bother, uk_atlas does enough (or doesn't do it) to annoy me |
| [15:11:09] | bill6502: | saintdev: you might be getting banned by making too many HTTP requests. 40 per hour max. if you use --dd-grab-all (the preferred choice, unless the host is under powered), then each run of mythfilldatabase will only cause 3 HTTP messages. according to your log, mfdb made 9 requests (Authenticate, day offsets 0,1,2,3,10,12,13 and NextScheduled.) if you'd run it multiple times in one hour you'd get banned. I'd wait 24 hours and try again using --dd-gra |
| [15:11:12] | bill6502: | b-all. |
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| [15:12:58] | stuartm: | we should making that the default, no-one should need to supply arguments to mythfilldatabase to get the best outcome |
| [15:19:18] | paul-h: | stuartm: I think it's unlikely the RT grabber will be ready for Jan 1st or whenever they decide to switch off the RT feed |
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| [15:43:20] | dashs: | lost the local ABC ATSC chan on the HDHpmeRun boxes, and re-scanned. There was another KMGH-TV chan and scan asked for another channel numebr which I provided. How do I switch the listings in mythweb to schedule that channel? |
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| [15:53:42] | saintdev: | bill6502: i'm not banned, i can run mythfilldatabase just fine to get listings, http://dd.schedulesdirect.com redirects me to the main page just like they say it should if you're not banned. |
| [15:54:15] | saintdev: | and also, it fails half way through that refresh |
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| [18:08:13] | bill6502: | saintdev: right, I was taking a shot at the fail2ban process kicking in during your download. Did you retry with --dd-grab-all.The best logging for this is with -v file,network --loglevel debug. *Look at the output before pasting* because you're about 15 commits shy of the fix that removes the SD user ID from the mythfilldatabase.log. I'd edit it out b4 pasting. |
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| [20:19:38] | saintdev: | bill6502: I'll give that a try, but it only send to fail when run by the backbend |
| [20:19:48] | saintdev: | *seems |
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| [21:07:00] | bill6502: | saintdev: you're running 2 commits shy of the fix for stuck files in /tmp. it affected users with just one source, which it appears from your log is you. look for /tmp/mythtv_ddp*, you'll likely find it is owned by yourself and if you run the backend as user mythtv (which is good) it can't write/delete it. |
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| [21:18:42] | justinh: | stuartm, paul-h : how would uk_rt hope to continue if they're going to switch off the xml feeds? atlas needs an API key & to use one key for mass downloads wouldn't possibly last long so.. er.. I'm puzzled ;-) |
| [21:21:28] | justinh: | I'd love for uk_rt to carry on, if only because I've only tested uk_atlas & I bloody hate it already |
| [21:22:15] | stuartm: | justinh: it would use the atlas feed, but wouldn't do some of the dumb shit that uk_atlas does and Nick was going to work on persuading Atlas to provide a project API key instead of per-user key |
| [21:22:35] | justinh: | ahh :-) |
| [21:22:51] | justinh: | same data, different method |
| [21:24:04] | stuartm: | even without the api key, it should still offer a better experience for existing users of uk_rt, all the existing data would be included (HD programme info), it would use the same grabber ids internally (atlas maps uses it's own non-xmltv compliant IDs) etc |
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| [21:24:50] | stuartm: | it would perform all the little fixups that Nick wrote for the uk_rt grabber, so the change would be effectively transparent |
| [21:25:30] | stuartm: | transparent ... not the word I was going for ... invisible |
| [21:25:34] | justinh: | I thought atlas wasn't gonna need all those fixups |
| [21:25:58] | stuartm: | justinh: it's the exact same data as the xml feed, just in a different format |
| [21:26:02] | justinh: | they sold us a dream.. they lied :P |
| [21:28:00] | stuartm: | another proposal is that if we have to keep the per-user api key then the grabber would set it up for you, so you don't personally need to request and set that up separately, but that will likely require some cooperation with metabroadcast to provide the necessary API |
| [21:28:24] | justinh: | I can't see an outfit like them going for a per-app API |
| [21:28:50] | justinh: | though if anyone wanted to publish the information their own way on the internet for any Joe to use they'd already be doing it |
| [21:29:23] | stuartm: | justinh: they kept the old xml feed going for two years just for xmltv, they are amendable to working with us (or were, not sure if anything has changed) |
| [21:29:29] | justinh: | then again how many mythtv users are there left in the UK? |
| [21:29:45] | justinh: | or ever were there? Heh |
| [21:30:53] | justinh: | I think we homebrew DVR folks are a dying breed. Even if you take into account the windows ones.. Maybe they'll allow an app key. That'd be nice |
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| [22:54:51] | saintdev: | bill6502: I'm pretty sure mine as after the fix. I don't have the mythtv_dpp* in /tmp. I do have a tvdb_api_114 folder, but everything in it is owned by the mythtv user. |
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| [23:06:54] | saintdev: | Is there any I can increase the log level on mythfilldatabase when it is run by the backend? Then I could maybe get a useful log of it failing. |
| [23:08:04] | bill6502: | saintdev: per your log, you're on commit e4f65c8 and two commits later comes 6b39841. but if the file isn't there, then that obviously isn't the cause of mfdb failing when run from the backend. I'd suggest starting the BE with the logging and debug levels above or if you type: mythbackend --setverbose file,network and mythbackend --setloglevel debug, then mfdb will run with those options. |
| [23:09:15] | bill6502: | there's a subtle issue, if you specify anything other than just mythfilldatabase in your backend setup (for example a full pathname), then the logging won't get passed to mfdb. |
| [23:10:16] | saintdev: | i don't think i've changed that from the default, but I'll double check that |
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| [23:27:01] | saintdev: | holy logspam!! yeah, i won't be able to leave this enabled. |
| [23:29:17] | saintdev: | bill6502: is there no other way to set it for just mythfilldatabase? logging every disk write while recording is a little excessive. |
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| [23:31:06] | saintdev: | in the 4 minutes between checking on it, my log went from 54MB to 102MB |
| [23:31:55] | saintdev: | htop |
| [23:31:59] | saintdev: | oops :P |
| [23:34:18] | bill6502: | mythbackend --loglevel info and mythbackend --setverbose general will turn the previously mentioned logging off, and I didn't mention it, but you do those commands to change logging on a running BE. |
| [23:35:17] | saintdev: | yeah, i figured that much out |
| [23:35:42] | saintdev: | i just can't do 50MB every 2 minutes worth of logs for a single recording |
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| [23:38:55] | bill6502: | saintdev: you could set the options in mythtv-setup on the line where you specify --dd-grab-all (I think the line is called Extra Arguments or close to that.) |
| [23:39:32] | saintdev: | ok, i'll try that then |
| [23:44:56] | bill6502: | the logging arguments that the BE is using will be passed (as you saw), and I don't know which set will win. this would be a case where you could specify the full path to mfdb and the conflict would be prevented (not suggesting this as a long term solution.) Usually, I just run mfdb from the command line with the extra logging, but your case where it's failing from only the BE is new to me, except for the case you already checked with stuck files in /t |
| [23:44:59] | bill6502: | mp. |
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