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| [00:02:35] | dym: | I ordered this http://www.ebay.de/itm/1U-1HE-Supermicro-Serv . . . em2ec62e3cba |
| [00:02:49] | dym: | New Ram and a new Drives |
| [00:03:08] | dym: | It's a Single Core on there, but capable of Dual Core |
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| [00:13:55] | Roklobsta: | how do i turn off mythvideos asking millions of inane questions about metadata after a rescan? |
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| [05:50:37] | ubuntuaddicted: | hello, how would i create a copy of a recording to a human readable format onto a usb drive? doesn't mythlnk.pl only create symlinks? |
| [05:57:56] | ubuntuaddicted: | could i use mythlink.pl which would create the symlinks maybe in like /tmp/ and then use rsync from /tmp/ to my usb drive? wouldn't that theoretically work? |
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| [07:26:22] | CCFL_Man: | ubuntuaddicted: i don't know much about mythtv yet, but aren't the recordings .ts files? |
| [07:29:08] | CCFL_Man: | i'm going to use freebsd instead of linux |
| [07:33:47] | dekarl: | CCFL_Man: he wants to copy from 49114_20131116163500.mpg (the recording in TS/PS) to Castle-01x01-EpisodeTitle.mpg, or something similar |
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| [07:35:47] | dekarl: | ubuntuaddicted: yes, I think you can use rsync --copy-links |
| [07:38:56] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: understood |
| [07:43:50] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: the freebsd cx88 driver looks clean and well done |
| [07:46:35] | CCFL_Man: | mpeg2 only support for the pcie cards, but i don't use analog |
| [07:48:10] | dekarl: | I'm not sure anyone has used that combination (native cx88 driver with mythbackend) yet, so a success report would be appreciated |
| [07:49:24] | [R]: | myth only supports linux v4l |
| [07:53:53] | CCFL_Man: | [R]: the driver uses the v4l linux api so it's compatible with mythtv |
| [07:54:10] | dekarl: | [R]: exactly my concern, but http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki says "[2011/09/21] cx88 v1.4.0 is now in ports, with Linux DVB support", I think that may be it |
| [07:54:41] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: i'm going to try to get it working |
| [07:55:15] | CCFL_Man: | i tried the HVR-1250 in linux and dvb-scan and w_scan couldn't access the device |
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| [07:55:28] | CCFL_Man: | in debian, actually |
| [07:57:29] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: yep, support was added for v4l linux |
| [08:00:19] | CCFL_Man: | Even if a category is not supported, or your card is not even listed in the table below, the kernel modules for MPEG, video, and/or audio will likely recognize it as long as the relevant PCI functions are present on your card. However, the application does not yet have a definition that allows it to create the appropriate libtuner frontend devices for your card. |
| [08:00:33] | CCFL_Man: | that might be an issue |
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| [08:13:25] | CCFL_Man: | according to the linuxtv site, the HVR-1250 has a microtune MT2131, and libtuner has a file for it |
| [08:13:37] | CCFL_Man: | so it should do the trick |
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| [08:26:03] | g44: | hi |
| [08:26:18] | g44: | is it possible to make mythbackend listen on all network interfaces? |
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| [09:38:14] | g44: | hi |
| [09:38:38] | g44: | is it possible to set mythbackend to listen on all interfaces rather than a specific ip? |
| [09:39:24] | g44: | and is it possible to record one show all time on ONE channel only in 0.27 in mythweb? the option to do that seems to be gone :( |
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| [09:41:54] | g44: | aah i can check "this channel" to restrict to one channel, so that's still working :) |
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| [11:40:28] | g44-2: | enyc: mythbackend runs on the virtual nic, that seemed to work |
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| [11:41:58] | g44-2: | enyc: what should the udp address be like? |
| [11:43:02] | enyc: | g44–2: err quesiot too vague |
| [11:43:32] | g44-2: | enyc: ? |
| [11:44:02] | enyc: | g44–2: design depends upon applicaiton ... i could be just listening on :: or 0.0.0.0 but the problem there is that dependin g of the appliciton design, it may end up replying ''from'' the wrong ip address to a packegt addressed to a difeferent of its' addresses |
| [11:44:18] | enyc: | g44–2: but you didn't show the listen addresses bound on your udp or tcp sockets or anything |
| [11:44:39] | enyc: | g44–2: the opplication could be pxplicitly bound to one or more socket, too, etc.... |
| [11:44:55] | g44-2: | enyc: udp mythbackend listens on 255.255.255.255:1900 and 239.255.255.250:1900 |
| [11:45:28] | g44-2: | tcp mythbackend listens on virtuial nic ip and link-local |
| [11:45:39] | enyc: | g44–2: ok, i'm not 100% sure , but i think it means 'all broadgast packets to port 1900 on any interface' (255.255.255.255:1900) |
| [11:45:48] | enyc: | 'and I (ithkn) 239.x is about multicast or so |
| [11:46:01] | enyc: | though 255.255.255.255 is almost certainly ipv4-only |
| [11:46:40] | g44-2: | i can see the mythbackend dlna server but i can't access recordings so i guess udp works but tcp not |
| [11:46:44] | enyc: | g44–2: are you connecting your frontends explicity to baned by ip address? is the needed routing there to make that work? able to ping etc etc...? |
| [11:47:08] | enyc: | g44–2: are you simply able to 'telnet' to the revealnt tcp port successfully from teh other machine |
| [11:47:12] | g44-2: | pinging is not possible, how can i make that work? |
| [11:47:35] | enyc: | g44–2: that suggests (unless ping is firewalled out) that there is some issue with routing to the ip address of the server |
| [11:48:10] | g44-2: | how can i fix routing? |
| [11:48:28] | enyc: | g44–2: well how was it even setup in he firnst place? and how did you leaarn about how routing and subnetting worked in the first place? |
| [11:49:18] | enyc: | g44–2: you need to be able to 'think' in the right terms. Start learning and look in 'ip -4 ro' // 'ip -6 ro' (or "route -n") on the machines... it will show you the address ranges (ip address+mask = range) they send to via waht interfare or what gateway |
| [11:49:36] | enyc: | g44–2: in order for the internet to work, there has to be functional route in both directions between the communicating hosts |
| [11:49:55] | g44: | enyc: do i have to make settings on the client too or can i fix routing on the backend only? |
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| [11:50:16] | enyc: | g44: i think you may not hav eread what i said, if you asked that question |
| [11:50:32] | enyc: | g44: read slowly and think ... |
| [11:50:43] | g44: | this topic is quite complex to me :/ |
| [11:51:30] | g44: | i used what i found through websearch |
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| [11:53:03] | g44: | enyc: i don't understand how the client knows how to reach the virtual nic on a different net? |
| [11:53:13] | enyc: | g44: maybe it doesn't hence not working |
| [11:53:38] | enyc: | g44: but theres also the route in the return direction to think about, too |
| [11:53:45] | g44: | enyc: so how can i make the client find the virtual nic? |
| [11:54:06] | enyc: | g44: now read what i sai above, again, and include details of you thinking having read the routing tables on both ends |
| [11:54:14] | g44: | do i have to set gateways on backend+ frontend? |
| [11:54:33] | enyc: | g44: this is a question about the internet, not about mythtv |
| [11:54:40] | enyc: | g44: you need a working network first =) |
| [11:54:58] | enyc: | http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2 . . . upid/306868/ |
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| [11:56:22] | g44: | i think i got it?`i need to set a route to the subnet of the virtual nic on the client? like "route to $virtualnic through $realnic"? |
| [11:57:45] | enyc: | g44–2: look at the routing table on both ends and interpret them... also find out the ip command for 'tell me the orute you would use to read ths ip address' (there is some knih of ip route lookup tool) and see if they make sense on beh ends of the conneciton |
| [11:58:08] | enyc: | (and, on any intermediate routers for taht matter) |
| [11:59:36] | g44: | how should i interpret the routing table of a tv? i can't access this on a tv?? |
| [12:00:46] | g44: | enyc: except for this all routes(0.0.0.0) go through my router |
| [12:01:36] | g44: | so i guess i have to add routes for the client and the backend? how to get there and how to go back? |
| [12:04:39] | g44: | i wouldn't have to fiddle with this if mythbackend just supported listening on all interfaces -.- |
| [12:05:58] | g44: | maybe i should switch to tvheadend or vdr, but they don't have so versatile recording rules :/ |
| [12:10:56] | g44: | enyc: i shouldn't have to fiddle with stuff like that just to make mythbackend listen on all interfaces |
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| [12:13:28] | g44: | enyc: hey i got it. now i can ping the virtual interface |
| [12:14:56] | g44: | enyc: and i can access my recordings via dlna. but that is not a solution since i can't change the routing table on my tv, so please fix mythbackend... |
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| [12:50:18] | enyc: | g44: hrrm can't you just put bmythbackend on the ip address oth esame subnet sa the tv/other devices ? |
| [12:50:51] | enyc: | g44: in order to get (some mythbackend developer, which is not me) to loo kinto that y ou nede to s tate very clearly and concisely exactly what the issue is / usggested fix approach |
| [12:51:01] | enyc: | g44: with clearly defined usage scenario and so on |
| [12:59:21] | g44: | enyc: i think about giving a mythtv machine to some novice linux user and i don't want them having to fiddle with network/mythtv configs. it should just work out of the box. |
| [13:00:04] | enyc: | g44: talk ing teme ubutn-mythtv place about that |
| [13:00:26] | enyc: | g44: they prabbly have just lots of hosts on the same subnet, no virtual ips special routing |
| [13:01:05] | g44: | enyc: why should i ask in ubuntu-mythtv? shouldn't i talk to the devs in #mythtv? |
| [13:01:46] | dekarl: | g44: (11:07:57) stuartm: [01/11/2014 08:38:59] <dekarl> g44, https://forum.mythtv.org/viewforum.php?f=9 appears to be a better place to discuss such design changes. currently the "listening IP" is not so easy to change |
| [13:02:49] | g44: | dekarl: i thought it would be best to talk to the devs, they know how to change this and can make the necessary code change happen |
| [13:04:30] | g44: | btw i found where the ip addresses are stored in the mythconverg db. i wonder if it would be possible to change the ips with a mysql command, the command could be run after networkmanager connected to a network. do you think this could work? |
| [13:14:45] | dekarl: | g44, you do not intend to use the mythfrontend, but only other clients? |
| [13:15:32] | g44: | dekarl: on linux mythfrontend, on win xbmc |
| [13:17:09] | dekarl: | either way, just setting your backend system with a manual IP is way simpler, also works when you router has issues, and doesn't involve making the changing IP known in your clients |
| [13:17:12] | g44: | oh and i have one more question: is it easy to update an existing channel list when there are new/changed channels? or do i have to redo the whole list+ recording rules? |
| [13:18:11] | g44: | dekarl: listening on all interfaces would be nicer because that would require no network/backend configuration |
| [13:19:40] | dekarl: | maybe, but its not easy to achive and all of the devs that you talked to suggested to come up with a proposal on the improvements forum... |
| [13:20:13] | dekarl: | you don't have to redo recording rules, unless they are "this channel only" rules and the channel changed |
| [13:20:50] | dekarl: | hint: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WhosWho |
| [13:21:17] | dekarl: | how rescanning works depends on your country/provider/guide source |
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| [13:22:39] | g44: | dekarl: what devs did i talk to? :o |
| [13:22:58] | g44: | iirc no dev in #mythtv answered |
| [13:23:54] | dekarl: | stuartm and myself, https://www.openhub.net/p/mythtv/contributors |
| [13:26:00] | g44: | dekarl: ok i'll post on the forum |
| [13:26:38] | g44: | dekarl: although i've seen a mailing list thread about that topic and noone wanted to implement it |
| [13:28:14] | g44: | dekarl: should i still post if it was already discussed on the ml? |
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| [13:32:42] | dekarl: | g44, I have not followed that thread personally. If it is exactly your proposal then chances are that you will not get a new/different answer |
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| [13:33:58] | g44: | dekarl: i think it was because of issues with ipv6 and the fact that the ip address in the setup is used for clients to connect why mythtv has to be bound to an ip address |
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| [16:45:18] | dashs: | Have a 0.26.1 system (4 machines) and want to know if there is a work-around for this situation: |
| [16:46:49] | dashs: | You are watching a channel on livetv that has an immediately upcoming recording scheduled. If you cross into the scheduled time the recording is started but it never shows up in Watch Recordings. |
| [16:47:23] | dashs: | Two tuners become involved. |
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| [17:31:38] | dekarl: | dashs: can you reproduce it with latest fixes/0.27? There have been lots of fixes around LiveTV. |
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| [17:39:27] | goibhniu: | Hi, I'd like to be able to get a list of films I've recorded, as opposed to TV shows, but I can't figure out how ... any tips? |
| [17:41:17] | bornuser: | hi goibhniu ... i'm new to myth, so this is kinda of a guess |
| [17:41:38] | bornuser: | but there would have to be something in the db to query on |
| [17:42:13] | bornuser: | something to id a recording by tv show or movie – not sure if that's in there |
| [17:42:22] | goibhniu: | bornuser: I've played around with mythlink, that's able to correctly break things up by category ... so it's in there somewhere |
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| [17:46:52] | goibhniu: | I could actually use the video browser with mythlink, but it doesn't show the titles for the videos. I guess there's a way to do it through through the Recordings interface too, but I haven't found it. Maybe there isn't? |
| [17:47:48] | bornuser: | i still playing catch-up on the learning curve |
| [17:48:41] | bornuser: | stuck trying to get mythweb to display season and episode numbers |
| [17:49:32] | goibhniu: | there's a lot to learn alright |
| [17:50:15] | goibhniu: | ah, I guess it should get them from the metadata grabber right? |
| [17:50:25] | ** goibhniu has also been fiddling with that lately ** | |
| [17:50:39] | goibhniu: | have you got all the metadata stuff enabled? |
| [17:51:29] | dashs: | dekarl: too lazy to rebuild 4 systems and test, sorry. Thought someone might recognize it. |
| [17:51:32] | ** goibhniu might give mythfuse a shot ... the code looks very straight forward ** | |
| [17:56:39] | bornuser: | ok |
| [17:57:31] | bornuser: | may also be an soulution with recording group or playing group |
| [17:57:58] | bornuser: | as i said i'm just spouting the directions i would try |
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| [18:07:36] | dekarl: | dashs: i understand that. still the update is likely worth it for livetv users due to lots of fixes |
| [18:14:14] | dashs: | dekarl: does the upgrade effect db schema change somehow? |
| [18:14:20] | dym: | dekarl: Is there any reason the mythbuntu iso release is a "desktop" one? |
| [18:19:00] | tgm4883: | dym: what do you mean? |
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| [18:35:41] | dekarl: | dashs: latest 0.27 has a different schema version then 0.26 if that is what you want to know. 1307->1317 |
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| [18:55:21] | frederik1986: | hi all |
| [18:55:44] | frederik1986: | i am trying to get a tevii s482 to work under the latest mythbuntu |
| [18:56:02] | frederik1986: | when i do dmesg |grep dvb or DVB , it shows nothing |
| [18:56:15] | frederik1986: | i tried s2-liplianing |
| [18:56:43] | frederik1986: | http://pastebin.com/1KEkZ4sE |
| [18:56:49] | frederik1986: | i get these errors |
| [19:02:46] | dashs: | dekarl: How is the schema updated? |
| [19:04:12] | dekarl: | dashs: automatically when you start the backend the first time after the update. it performs a backup (may take some time) then updates |
| [19:05:17] | dekarl: | frederik1986: isn't there a package of the s2-liplianing dkms for ubuntu? |
| [19:05:23] | dashs: | thanks |
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| [19:11:13] | frederik1986: | dekarl: i found a package from 2011 but it also gave error |
| [19:12:54] | Quantum`: | Anyone here have an account on avsforum, and willing to help a brother out? |
| [19:16:01] | dekarl: | frederik1986: I was just wondern as your the second one this week with this card wanting to get it running on ubuntu... |
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| [19:19:24] | frederik1986: | i was here 2 days ago to |
| [19:20:20] | frederik1986: | i tried with my own kernel with this command : sudo make release VER=3.12.0-patched |
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| [19:20:37] | frederik1986: | but then i get this : File not found: /lib/modules/3.2.0-patched/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 33, <IN> line 4 |
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| [19:25:34] | frederik1986: | dekarl: can you give me a link to your dkms file ? |
| [19:26:53] | dekarl: | frederik1986: I don't have one, I was wondering if someone had packaged it but didn't upload or something like that |
| [19:27:18] | dekarl: | Actually I was surprised when I only found an old one myself when I searched the last time |
| [19:28:31] | frederik1986: | and anyone else that could help ? |
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| [19:55:23] | darkdrgn2k: | hey all.. if i want to compile myth myself whats the distro of choice? |
| [19:55:42] | darkdrgn2k: | i used to use fedora but its wacked boot replacement int he past few versions has me tripped out |
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| [20:04:25] | Quantum`: | darkdrgn2k: Debian. |
| [20:04:48] | darkdrgn2k: | instead of ubuntu? |
| [20:05:04] | darkdrgn2k: | ... its not a bad idea, i dont like ubuntus.... whatever you call it |
| [20:05:13] | Quantum`: | Y |
| [20:05:38] | darkdrgn2k: | i donno... i just dont like it |
| [20:05:55] | darkdrgn2k: | :-S or should i just force myself to start liking it lOl |
| [20:06:38] | Quantum`: | Anyone know the patch for mediamonitor-unix.cpp to fix the udisks problem? |
| [20:08:57] | dekarl: | "the udisks problem"? |
| [20:09:30] | Quantum`: | Y, Debian uses udisks2 but the frontend looks for udisks. |
| [20:09:38] | Quantum`: | https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12307 |
| [20:09:48] | dekarl: | so this udisks2 is not backwards compatible? what a mess! |
| [20:09:50] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm so debain or ubuntu |
| [20:10:02] | Quantum`: | Y |
| [20:10:48] | Quantum`: | Myth looks for org/freedesktop/UDisks and can't find it because udisks2 is running. |
| [20:11:12] | Quantum`: | Change everything to UDisks2 but it still can't find /UDisks2. |
| [20:11:26] | dekarl: | Quantum`: the internet says just install udisks next to udisks2 |
| [20:11:42] | Quantum`: | pfff |
| [20:11:51] | dekarl: | looks like the packager has the package depend on the wrong udisks |
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| [20:12:15] | Quantum`: | K, if I have to... |
| [20:14:51] | Quantum`: | I don't understand why /org/freedesktop/UDisks2 is not on the system bus. |
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| [20:26:43] | Quantum`: | Anyone here have an account on avsforum, and willing to help a brother out? |
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| [22:24:30] | kisak: | hello, I recently bumped to mythtv 0.27.4 from 0.27.1 and I'm getting "Movie grabber not functional. Aborting this run." out of mythmetadatalookup |
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