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| [03:12:40] | NoFinessin: | bill6502: i found one problem, my directv box is sending requests from a 169. IP and mythtv-backend gets flooded to the point the logger is throttling the log messages, i found this out by running mythtv-backend through strace |
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| [03:25:53] | bill6502: | NoFinessin: 169.254.x.x ? That would be an IPv4 Link Local address. Please verify. |
| [03:27:17] | NoFinessin: | ya but in the code it's not excluded |
| [03:28:31] | NoFinessin: | i'm still having some other problem but i did get something working now that i've unplugged the directv box from the network |
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| [03:32:01] | bill6502: | NoFinessin: do you build from source: if so, http://pastebin.com/MmJfcjtx |
| [03:34:24] | NoFinessin: | no, just using packages for ubuntu 14.04 |
| [03:34:56] | NoFinessin: | the reason i upgraded was to fix a panasonic dlna issue in 0.27.1 |
| [03:35:26] | NoFinessin: | well i was going to upgrade to see if it fixed, then this security improvement gave me problems |
| [03:36:22] | NoFinessin: | then i was going to build from source as a last resort to see if i could fix my issues and report back findings |
| [03:36:55] | NoFinessin: | is that code in unstable? |
| [03:38:41] | bill6502: | stuartm ^^^ http://pastebin.com/MmJfcjtx would fix the IPv4 and has a different method for IPv6 |
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| [03:38:50] | NoFinessin: | ya i also have a public ipv6 address on the box so i disabled that but then my tftp server quit working heh |
| [03:40:12] | NoFinessin: | if i build 0.28-pre then i would get this code? |
| [03:40:31] | bill6502: | NoFinessin: 0.27 is stable, 0.28-pre is billed as unstable, but I've been running on it for the last 2346 commits |
| [03:41:37] | bill6502: | yes, the fix is in both, so you could checkout master and build that, or (probably the safer choice) checkout fixes/0.27 |
| [03:45:31] | NoFinessin: | thanks bill |
| [03:45:39] | NoFinessin: | does stuartm join here? |
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| [03:48:11] | bill6502: | he does, but it's probably 0346 in his part of the planet. |
| [03:49:32] | NoFinessin: | ya, just wondering wanted to thank him too |
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| [04:11:04] | NoFinessin: | does anyone know much about the mythvideo plugin and how does it relate to the mythweb plugin if at all? |
| [04:11:16] | NoFinessin: | i mean mythweb feature |
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| [15:00:03] | tgm4883: | my god |
| [15:00:24] | tgm4883: | Why some users decide to do things the most difficult way is beyond me |
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| [20:12:41] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: re ONID vs NID in the channel_scan, that's a good question. Especially on australian DVB-T... historically both were the same, now it is split into the globally unique original_network_id that describes the origin of an emission and the network_id that describes the local (per country/medium) transport. (e.g. each set of frequencies and the channel setup on these frequencies will likely have a different network_id but share th |
| [20:13:22] | Roklobsta: | hi dekarl thanks. 3 chanels they are the same, 2 a different. |
| [20:13:24] | dekarl: | the australian special is, that the broadcasters don't use the ONID for australian DVB-T, and don't use their own ONID. But instead they use a locally assigned NID in place |
| [20:13:44] | Roklobsta: | so which one goes into dvb_multiplex? |
| [20:13:58] | Roklobsta: | onid or nid? |
| [20:14:13] | dekarl: | to make matters worse the orignal mother of all DVB softwares used the term network_id for the original_network_id and many others just copied from there (e.g. us, too) |
| [20:15:06] | Roklobsta: | i am trying onid at the moment |
| [20:15:11] | dekarl: | so the field is called network_id in dtv_multiplex, but you have to enter the original_network_id. which in the australian case comes from the network_id allocation. I find that very consufing :) |
| [20:15:22] | Roklobsta: | ah |
| [20:15:56] | dekarl: | here's the lists http://www.dvbservices.com/identifiers/network_id http://www.dvbservices.com/identifiers/original_network_id |
| [20:16:25] | dekarl: | basically you can just look at the original_network_id in the SDT of the transport and use that value |
| [20:16:53] | Roklobsta: | generally the big cities have ONID, then regional companies take big city feed and put their own local ads and TV, maybe different programs when sports is on. 95% country is the same as city for programming. |
| [20:16:59] | dekarl: | http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-sdt.html |
| [20:17:45] | Roklobsta: | so NID here is used jus to identify the local TV company/transmitter for EIT purposes? |
| [20:18:27] | Roklobsta: | i found a big table published by the govt here with all the NID ranges for all the transmitters/regions. |
| [20:18:32] | dekarl: | just out of curiosity is that US style syndication (local companies buying the national programme and adding local ads/news) or UK style regional variants (all the same company) |
| [20:19:14] | dekarl: | I've not looked in such great details. could be that you also use area_id but I doubt it |
| [20:19:43] | Roklobsta: | a mix of both. the regional companies tend to be national but deal with everything outside of the cities |
| [20:21:02] | Roklobsta: | i'd say more like US but only a handful of companies do the syndication. 2 govt channels though do national prgram with state based variations for news |
| [20:21:32] | dekarl: | here's my notes from when I tried to figure out what IDs to key the fixups on https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10098 |
| [20:22:57] | Roklobsta: | the problem at the moment is... why doesn't the data make it into dvb_multiplex after a scan now? it seems to be in channelscan_channel where I copied it from. |
| [20:23:29] | Roklobsta: | and why does w_scan show 0 for TSID and NID? |
| [20:25:00] | Roklobsta: | i put nid instead of onid last night and recordings went from OK to fail for one channel. so it's ONID for all of them now. |
| [20:25:51] | Roklobsta: | JYA has suggested that these problems come from new kernels. it seems weird that without an over API change the behaviour would change. |
| [20:26:06] | Roklobsta: | i don't have my old mythbuntu 12.04 system any more for a reference. |
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| [20:27:02] | |PSU|: | hi guys...i'm running 0.27.4 and manually ran mythfilldatabase to see if i'm going to have any issues with the upcoming DataDirect replacement. I have guide data thru 08 Nov and it appears to run successfully but data on 07–08 Nov is mostly blank ("NO DATA")...any thoughts? |
| [20:27:07] | Roklobsta: | whups |
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| [20:28:02] | Roklobsta: | dekarl: do you see my point? |
| [20:28:39] | dekarl: | |PSU|: sounds like it might be #7 from http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2599 |
| [20:28:39] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7 ** | |
| [20:29:53] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: I'm surprised that the data appears in the channel_scan. which of the many copies of ONID/TSID is filled? I'm going to peek at the selection logic, wondering if its picking the wrong copy of the data |
| [20:30:16] | Roklobsta: | well dvb_multiplex has NULL |
| [20:30:20] | Roklobsta: | or had |
| [20:30:25] | Roklobsta: | until i copied it |
| [20:30:46] | Roklobsta: | apart from one station |
| [20:31:18] | dekarl: | yes, that's what I'm wondering.. the scanner should copy the first filled field to dtv_multiplex |
| [20:32:41] | Roklobsta: | i did... delete all transports, full scan, accept ~30 new channels. ---> no lock. |
| [20:33:04] | Roklobsta: | apart from one station. looking at dvb_multiplex showed nid NULL apart from the one station. |
| [20:33:24] | Roklobsta: | i am happy to try the process again. I bet it works though. |
| [20:35:12] | |PSU|: | dekarl: thanks for the info! is that similar to what others are seeing? |
| [20:38:01] | dekarl: | |PSU|: I'm just trying to connect the FAQ and your question. For details I'll let an US resident answer with first hand experience :) |
| [20:38:41] | Roklobsta: | can you get other countrie's DVB from finland? |
| [20:39:22] | |PSU|: | ah, hah! thanks |
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| [20:48:38] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: you mean like receive foreign TV? Some countries have unencrypted satellite services that anyone with a dish pointed at the bird can watch |
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| [20:52:52] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-broadcast . . . ree_services |
| [20:52:55] | Roklobsta: | i mean just acroos land/water like from sweden or russia |
| [20:57:09] | dekarl: | hmm, both use DVB-T, too |
| [20:59:01] | dekarl: | Sweden has some free and many encrypted channels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_terrestr . . . den#Channels |
| [21:00:15] | dekarl: | didn't find a nice overview for russia |
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| [21:19:27] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: i like DW from germany |
| [21:20:13] | CCFL_Man: | getting this dvy system running has proven to be a huge challenge |
| [21:20:31] | dekarl: | CCFL_Man: do you get nice guide data for it? |
| [21:21:29] | CCFL_Man: | from the window manager to X, to hdmi sound, to the database, lirc, auto login, etc. so many little things |
| [21:22:04] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: yes, they rebroadcast on a bird here in the US |
| [21:23:13] | dekarl: | I see. Well there is always the http-live-stream that you can hook mythtv into :) and connect it to the guide over at xmltv.se ;) |
| [21:23:41] | dekarl: | I wonder why we have german guide data for DW Amerika... |
| [21:24:09] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: DW does have an http livestream and i'm doing exactly that! |
| [21:25:02] | CCFL_Man: | there is DW and DW Amerika, but those in the US cannot access that feed over the net due to a contract with a satellite provider in the US and DW |
| [21:25:06] | dekarl: | The fun thing is, me too. We don't have DW on cable... because its only for the others |
| [21:26:11] | CCFL_Man: | they block access, i wish they wouldn't do that |
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| [21:26:32] | CCFL_Man: | how can i search a channel on xmltv.se? |
| [21:26:51] | CCFL_Man: | say, search to see if they have DW |
| [21:27:30] | dekarl: | hmm, look at the list? http://converter.xmltv.se/channel I'm not sure if there is a link to that page, though |
| [21:27:48] | sensim: | i just came in; what "DW" stands for? For "Deutsche Welle"? |
| [21:28:45] | dekarl: | yes, we are talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DW-TV |
| [21:28:45] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: i see it |
| [21:28:59] | CCFL_Man: | sensim: yeah, i love their tv and radio services |
| [21:29:47] | dekarl: | If you like DW-TV you may also like ORF 2 Europe |
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| [21:29:56] | sensim: | ah ok thx. didn't use it yet |
| [21:30:23] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: they have an english service? |
| [21:30:33] | dekarl: | I'm not sure if they have english programming though |
| [21:31:40] | CCFL_Man: | unfortunately i only understand english, which is typical of america |
| [21:32:04] | dekarl: | Ah, we need to sort out all the video-on-demand offerings that are free to the internet (paid for by the public) so we can just hook them into mythnetvision... |
| [21:34:15] | dekarl: | I think you can also enjoy some of the austrian documentaries, e.g. about the water of vienna etc. They have very calming narrating which makes for a nice background. Might work even better if you don't understand the words :) |
| [21:34:52] | CCFL_Man: | i do enjoy that kind of tv programming very much |
| [21:35:05] | CCFL_Man: | which there is none of in the US |
| [21:35:47] | dekarl: | just try it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxX1oug6V3g (did I say that we need to come up with a nice VOD solution, yet? ;) |
| [21:36:39] | CCFL_Man: | there was a python script for a mythtv plugin for youtube access |
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| [22:04:22] | CCFL_Man: | the case i got sure looks nice |
| [22:06:53] | CCFL_Man: | and it's pretty quiet |
| [22:09:06] | CCFL_Man: | it's just a pita to set everything up because it takes so much time |
| [22:09:31] | CCFL_Man: | and as a student and having a full time job, i have little time |
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| [22:42:42] | dekarl: | Roklobsta, I didn'nt find anything obvious wrt populating the ONID/TSID from the channel_scan :/ |
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| [22:45:21] | CCFL_Man: | dekarl: on my test system, mythbackend keeps crashing, but i did not set up the database yet |
| [22:50:15] | RedPenguin: | I have to restaryt my HDHomeRun Prime for a sec on a comemrical break |
| [22:50:24] | RedPenguin: | does MythTV auto re-record the rest? |
| [22:50:35] | RedPenguin: | I think it does but I can't 100% remember |
| [22:55:31] | tgm4883: | RedPenguin: no it doesn't |
| [22:55:45] | tgm4883: | at least, it doesn't if the network goes out for a bit |
| [22:55:57] | tgm4883: | I had to manually stop and restart the recording |
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| [22:58:19] | RedPenguin: | tgm4883: I had to hurry up and do a manual recording, will just have to piecce them together |
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