MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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acle, adante, aloril, amessina, AndyCap, B34N, benc_, BillK, BLZbubba, brfransen, caelor, Casper0082, CCFL_Man, ChanServ, clever, croccydile, croppa, Cubber, dahlSTROM, Dave123, deathadder, dekarl, dmmp, dually, enyc, epinephrine, esperegu, EvilGuru, eye69, fetzerch, Floppe, Freejack, G, Gibby, gigem, gregL, GreyFoxx_, grumpydevil, Guest62829, haux, Heliwr, Hoochster, Hydr0p0nX, ikevin, infinite, J-e-f-f-A, jams, jarle, Jay2k1, jbrett, jedix, jm|laptop, johnsu01, joki, jpabq, jst, justdave, justinh, jya, knightr, kormoc, kurre2, kusznir, LedHed, len_, lotia, maseck, materdaddy, McGuyver, mengo, Metoer, mishehu, MissionCritical, moparisthebest, Moscherkobold, Muzer, mycosys, MythLogBot, mzb, natanojl, nephyrin, nikgod, niska, nutron, Oleg_, pigeon, purserj, pyrodex, RagingComputer, RagingMind, RedPenguin, rhpot1991, robink, rsiebert, Scopeuk, Seeker`, seld, Shadow__X, ShapeShifter499, Sharky112065, sid3windr, simcop2387, skd5aner, sl1ce, sphery, squidly, sressot, StevenR, stuartm, superm1, swebb, taknev_, terr1, tgm4883, tonsofpcs, tris, troyt, trumee, ubIx, unforgiven512, wagner__, wallzero, XDS2010, xris, zoktar, [mrx], _abbenormal, _charly_
Friday, October 24th, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:18] bill6502: were you thinking of using a networked tuner, e.g. a HD Homerun Prime (I don't know if there are any PCI slots on that NAS or USB ports)
[00:00:30] MTughan: Yes, we already have an HDHomeRun.
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[02:47:38] CCFL_Man: does anyone here use a pci atsc card with a low profile bracket?
[03:12:32] CCFL_Man: this silverstone case looks really nice
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[03:13:14] CCFL_Man: the card slots require low profile brackets
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[03:17:41] bill6502: CCFL_Man: pci-e here, sorry. I assume you've already been to: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards
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[03:21:31] CCFL_Man: bill6502: i have. it's hard to find one that is pci and low profile
[03:23:23] CCFL_Man: find the exact one to buy, anyway
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[05:12:06] CCFL_Man: so, zaptoit doesn't work anymore
[05:12:32] CCFL_Man: what happened?
[05:19:46] CCFL_Man: i guess they shut down, eh?
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[05:36:03] CCFL_Man: that leads me to wobder
[05:36:32] CCFL_Man: i have a streaming source for deutsche well tv
[05:36:47] CCFL_Man: i wonder where i can get guide data from
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[06:49:05] CCFL_Man: does shedulesdirect offer a custom lineup?
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[08:44:51] stuartm: loganrun: what frequency table do you have selected for the Video Source?
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[08:53:56] Roklobsta: 4/5
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[14:47:59] RedPenguin: On my cable system, I have 2 PBS channels, along with 2 HDs of those
[14:48:27] RedPenguin: Is there any way to have MythTV record from either HD, but skip the SD channels, if the program itself is not HD?
[14:49:14] RedPenguin: I normally just hit "This Channel" but don't think that would work in this case
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[15:34:21] stuartm: RedPenguin: select the 'High Definition' filter for that rule
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[16:15:09] RedPenguin: stuartm: I tried that before, but then being the program wasn't HD, it cancelled the recordings
[16:15:34] RedPenguin: Our SD's are compressed simulcasts, so even recording SD on our HD's look better
[16:16:28] stuartm: RedPenguin: ah, some guide data considers programmes HD based on their resolution, not the resolution they were filmed in
[16:17:13] stuartm: personally I think that's the 'correct' approach, but I can't personally fix those guide sources which tag upscaled SD as SD instead of HD
[16:18:21] RedPenguin: yea
[16:18:33] RedPenguin: The system here is just a giant mess since they refuse to kill the analog right now lol
[16:19:31] stuartm: there are 'custom' recording rules, but personally I think that's the nuclear option
[16:21:00] stuartm: you could it it up so HD channels have a higher priority than the non-HD, that won't guarentee that it will never record the SD showing, but it would prefer to use the HD channels if it can
[16:22:48] stuartm: that's under mythtv-setup > Channel Editor, select the HD channels, hit ENTER/SELECT and increase the priority value, then hit Next, followed by Finish
[16:23:08] stuartm: you could set it up
[16:24:28] dbh: Question: I am currently running Ubuntu 12.04 with mythtv (2:0.25.2+fixes.20120802.46cab93–0ubuntu1). Is there an easy way to upgrade to 0.27.4 in preparation for the upcoming changes with Schedules Direct? Thanks
[16:30:35] RedPenguin: dbh, you can do what I did, and add a PPA for 0.27
[16:30:56] RedPenguin: I have to use 12.04 for an older AMD display driver
[16:32:01] RedPenguin: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-mythtv-on-ub . . . 12-04-11-10/
[16:36:37] stuartm: dbh: enable the mythbuntu repos http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos
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[16:37:55] dbh: I'm not running mythbuntu. I'm running mythtv on a server running 12.04. Is the mythbuntu PPA applicable in my case?
[16:38:33] stuartm: dbh: same thing
[16:39:22] dbh: OK I'll give it a try. Thanks
[16:39:43] stuartm: mythbuntu is just ubuntu + mythtv packages and some extra packages which are optional but help with configuration etc
[16:40:51] stuartm: every MythTV user on Ubuntu should ideally enable the mythbuntu repos, they update them daily from the latest fixes branch
[16:44:22] RedPenguin: yea I def recommend it, it's nice getting the latest mythtv even though I can't right now have the latest Ubuntu
[16:45:14] RedPenguin: Though it appears, very little can happen under the hood of Ubuntu that would break MythTV and force you to ugprade so far
[16:47:15] stuartm: next big one will be when we move to QT5, or drop support for an older version of mysql – those are the usual suspects
[16:48:18] RedPenguin: I still am amazed I build a system with a brand new motherboard
[16:48:31] RedPenguin: and already the graphics unit is dropped my AMD....
[16:48:41] RedPenguin: Otherwise i would easily go to latest Ubuntu
[16:49:04] RedPenguin: How a board made in 2014, uses a chipset dropped in 2012 I will never know lol
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[16:49:43] stuartm: RedPenguin: AMD don't support their stuff as long as Nvidia, but that's more of a problem because motherboard manufacturers like to use the older GPUs because they are cheaper
[16:50:22] RedPenguin: yea, at least I know to check next time, but I got bite this time....
[16:51:14] stuartm: the open source driver doesn't work?
[16:51:55] RedPenguin: it worked somewhat but didn't really allow HDMI with audio to work no matter what I did
[16:52:28] RedPenguin: seems the HDMI audio is a notorious "bug" or issue
[16:55:57] stuartm: ah, haven't used AMD for a few years now, and when I did the chipset I used was still supported so HDMI audio worked just fine
[16:57:29] stuartm: I was actually very satisfied with AMD back then, but I switched to NVidia motherboards to benefit from VDPAU, and frankly there's no going back once you've got proper video rendering available
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[17:22:42] dekarl: RedPenguin: just set the sd channels invisible and give the hd channels the same callsign?
[17:24:30] stuartm: sometimes the most obvious solution is the one that gets overlooked
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[17:46:00] RedPenguin: dekarl: actually that sounds like a good idea, I will have to try that
[17:46:22] RedPenguin: I lately have been hiding SD's because I hate when I meant to sch HD and get an SD version
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[17:53:00] tgm4883: RedPenguin: what graphics?
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[18:02:38] RedPenguin: RS780
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[21:50:29] Roklobsta: what do dvb_diseqc_type and dvb_wait_for_seqstart mean and what effect do they have if they are NULL/0/1 in the DB?
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[21:59:32] haux: Hi The download link in ww.mythbuntu.org is broken when you download iso AMD64
[22:12:40] dekarl: Roklobsta: IIUIC sequence start is where a decoder can start decoding a proper picture, see http://wwwx.cs.unc.edu/~kmp/mpeg2event/blosxo . . . ization.html
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[22:14:36] dekarl: see also http://www.mythtvtalk.com/dvb-wait-seq-start- . . . 7/#post59142
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[22:45:32] tgm4883: haux: try refreshing the page. I'll check it when I get home
[22:47:16] haux: tmg4883: already since the last 3 days
[22:47:36] haux: no rush I downloaded the torrent file which went ok
[22:47:49] haux: just the iso link is broken
[22:47:50] haux: thx
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[22:53:46] Roklobsta: dekarl: i always have it on
[22:54:27] Roklobsta: i noticed the dvb_diseqc_type field in the database is NULL for the 1st mutirec and 0 for any other multirecs on the same tuner. is that normal
[22:54:36] dekarl: sounds good (and is the default?)
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[22:55:15] dekarl: can't say, but could be as the virtual multirec tuners don't tune ;)
[22:55:54] Roklobsta: ah https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Capturecard_table says it's null but doesn't say what non-NULL is
[22:58:44] Roklobsta: hmmm, something to do with motors/gadgets
[22:59:57] dekarl: I think dvb_diseqc_type might be an old field https://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/diseqcsetting . . . f91030a7f76b
[23:01:06] dekarl: oh yes, its related to DiSEqC, a standard to control satellite receiption equipment
[23:02:15] Roklobsta: ok not important
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[23:02:41] dekarl: depends, if you want to receive DVB-S its good to have ;)
[23:02:55] Roklobsta: i mean not for DV
[23:02:55] Roklobsta: B
[23:02:58] Roklobsta: -T
[23:04:51] Roklobsta: my roof antenna isn't so sophisticated
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[23:24:50] tgm4883: haux: fixed it. It was one of our mirrors
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