| Monday, October 20th, 2014, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:23] | skd5aner: | jya: Hey, just installed your mythfrontend package for OS X for the first time. It worked excellent, out of the box. Easiest myth deployment I've ever had. |
| [00:00:30] | skd5aner: | jya: thanks for your work! |
| [00:20:44] | jya: | skd5aner: the bundled app ? |
| [00:21:15] | jya: | need to update it from the latest release… few metadata updates since |
| [00:22:54] | skd5aner: | yes, from your site |
| [00:23:07] | jya: | cool |
| [00:23:24] | jya: | I can’t remember if I’ve done a default VDA profile… |
| [00:23:41] | skd5aner: | errrr.... I don't recall either |
| [00:24:02] | skd5aner: | I think it defaulted to "standard" and not VDA |
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| [00:24:38] | jya: | actually, the default profile is equivalent to having none… so on the mac it uses default everything (And no deinterlacer) |
| [00:26:34] | skd5aner: | yea... I switched it to VDA, but I'm an OS X noob... the description said that VDA would only work on h264 material, is that accurate? |
| [00:26:54] | jya: | it is |
| [00:27:21] | jya: | should upgrade the mac code to support VideoToolbox too |
| [00:27:35] | skd5aner: | this is an iMac that has an ATI card in it, it's about 4–5 years old... |
| [00:27:39] | jya: | would provide h264 decoder on most mac (VDA is rather restricted) |
| [00:27:53] | jya: | funnily, mac 2013 mac pro doesn’t support VDA |
| [00:27:57] | skd5aner: | It plays back most things fine, but I do notice that some of my bluray rips arent playing |
| [00:28:14] | skd5aner: | well, they play, just with a lot of stuttering |
| [00:28:15] | jya: | you can try VDA |
| [00:28:17] | jya: | rather easy |
| [00:28:27] | jya: | select the OpenGL High Quality profile |
| [00:28:36] | jya: | and change the decoder from ffmpeg to VDA |
| [00:28:42] | jya: | that’s the only thing to change |
| [00:28:45] | skd5aner: | ok |
| [00:28:50] | skd5aner: | there was a VDA profile too |
| [00:28:54] | skd5aner: | how is that different? |
| [00:29:07] | jya: | I did one ? couldn’t remember :) |
| [00:29:18] | jya: | probably none |
| [00:29:21] | skd5aner: | yea, I think a VDA standard and high quality if I remember right |
| [00:30:05] | skd5aner: | btw, the only funny thing I had was that the audio defaulted to an Airplay setting... and I had my main frontend on in the other room... When I ran speaker test in the setup wizard, all of a sudden, my TV/frontend in the other room started blaring whitenoise |
| [00:30:07] | skd5aner: | lol |
| [00:30:26] | jya: | ah well, no need to do anything |
| [00:30:31] | jya: | select “VDA High Quality" |
| [00:30:45] | skd5aner: | I had to switch it to output audio on whatever the "local" setting was |
| [00:31:04] | jya: | didn’t work using the default? it should select the default output |
| [00:31:07] | skd5aner: | but, thought it was kinda odd that it randomly selected my other frontend to blare the audio to |
| [00:31:12] | jya: | same as the system-wide |
| [00:31:22] | skd5aner: | that was the default setting that appeared when I launched the setup wizard |
| [00:32:23] | jya: | if no audio device is defined on the mac, it uses the one youve set in the system preferences |
| [00:33:02] | jya: | but that can cause issue as we don’t support on the fly change. so if you change say from your monitor speaker, to a USB headset, it likely will stop working |
| [00:34:01] | skd5aner: | I've never used airplay on the device, and not sure I ever set an audio device specifically. All other sounds came from the local speakers in all other apps (browsers, itunes, quicktime, etc) |
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| [01:44:41] | CCFL_Man: | if i install mythtv on a home theater pc, would i need to install the frontend and backend? |
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| [02:06:31] | skd5aner: | yes |
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| [02:47:17] | vontrapp: | on the ir convo earlier, lol, i have the homemade serial ir receiver which I put together in '99, good times |
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| [03:42:44] | CCFL_Man: | vontrapp: i might dop that |
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| [03:42:59] | CCFL_Man: | what window manager do you guys run? |
| [03:43:08] | CCFL_Man: | or can i run it without? |
| [03:43:18] | CCFL_Man: | i was thinking of using twm |
| [03:44:38] | [R]: | twm doesnt work too well |
| [03:44:43] | [R]: | because when a window opens you have to place it |
| [03:44:54] | [R]: | i use ratpoisoin i think its called |
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| [03:45:10] | CCFL_Man: | is it extremely lightweight? |
| [03:45:23] | [R]: | what wm isn't... |
| [03:45:29] | [R]: | (that isn't part of a de) |
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| [03:46:05] | CCFL_Man: | i personally like to use xfce, but i wanted something even more lightweight |
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| [03:47:20] | [R]: | right... and xfce is a de |
| [03:47:45] | CCFL_Man: | oh, i understand |
| [03:48:44] | Roklobsta: | kde is very lightweight |
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| [03:49:17] | [R]: | kde is a huge monstrocity |
| [03:49:52] | CCFL_Man: | [R]: that is an understatement |
| [03:51:26] | CCFL_Man: | [R]: so ratpoison works like screen, but you can run gui programs on it? |
| [03:52:02] | [R]: | huh? |
| [03:53:32] | CCFL_Man: | you have used screen before? |
| [03:53:54] | [R]: | yes... |
| [03:53:59] | [R]: | it has nothing to do with window managers |
| [03:55:04] | CCFL_Man: | it allows you to run X applications and switch between them like you do windows in screen? |
| [03:55:14] | [R]: | huh? |
| [03:55:25] | CCFL_Man: | please explain |
| [03:55:38] | [R]: | youwant me to explain the nonsensical crack you are saying? |
| [03:57:15] | CCFL_Man: | explain to me how ratpoison works |
| [03:57:22] | [R]: | like every other window manager in the world? |
| [03:57:47] | [R]: | it draws windows |
| [03:57:50] | [R]: | and... manages them |
| [03:58:02] | Roklobsta: | LMWTFY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison |
| [03:58:10] | CCFL_Man: | without the desktop environment? |
| [03:58:21] | [R]: | DE has nothign to do with WM |
| [03:58:26] | [R]: | DEs just come with WMs |
| [03:58:45] | [R]: | and a billino other things |
| [03:59:45] | Roklobsta: | oh man, ratpoison looks like a step back to 1994 |
| [04:00:03] | Roklobsta: | my DE looked like that. awful |
| [04:01:34] | CCFL_Man: | it looks easy to switch between a browser and mythtv, with a keystroke |
| [04:01:49] | [R]: | like every other window manager... |
| [04:01:54] | Roklobsta: | oh you want to fli pbetween the two for youtube etc |
| [04:02:27] | CCFL_Man: | Roklobsta: i do |
| [04:02:35] | Roklobsta: | alas, i'd say just use airplay if it worked. |
| [04:02:40] | Roklobsta: | which it doesn't |
| [04:03:43] | Roklobsta: | i have played with a so called smarttv that did youtube. not pleasant |
| [04:04:09] | CCFL_Man: | i would also like xbmc |
| [04:04:21] | Roklobsta: | why |
| [04:04:26] | Roklobsta: | that MFE wannabe |
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| [04:04:46] | CCFL_Man: | because it can play flash streams |
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| [04:05:09] | CCFL_Man: | i don't know what else plays live flash streams |
| [04:07:31] | CCFL_Man: | unless myth can do it |
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| [04:14:13] | vontrapp: | for youtube nothing beats chromecast, IMO |
| [04:14:17] | vontrapp: | I use icewm for mythtv |
| [04:15:32] | CCFL_Man: | oh yes! |
| [04:15:46] | vontrapp: | mfe? i always think of minecraft mod battery? |
| [04:16:09] | CCFL_Man: | i found a working link to deutsche welle tv! |
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| [04:18:14] | CCFL_Man: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . ing_Recorder |
| [04:18:20] | CCFL_Man: | there we go |
| [04:19:09] | CCFL_Man: | why did i even waste my money on a tivoHD |
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| [05:13:41] | vontrapp: | does the mythbuntu ppa have build in lirc support? |
| [05:15:48] | vontrapp: | if so, where do i find the example configs? |
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| [06:33:33] | vontrapp: | nm |
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| [11:52:14] | Roklobsta: | i think i might have re-uncovered a mythbuntu problem that may affect others. |
| [11:53:11] | Roklobsta: | I have had vexing trouble with Afatech cards and ages ago philips cards where the kernel was doing whatever it needed to do to install firmware or calibrate tuners. |
| [11:54:01] | Roklobsta: | in the meantime init would fire up mythbackend which i think would then try to talk to the TV cards at the same time and bugger things up. |
| [11:55:20] | Roklobsta: | i did solve the problem by introducing a "sleep 120" just before mythbackend is started in the init/mythtv.conf file which seemed to make the philips cards behave. |
| [11:56:21] | Roklobsta: | i just tried it with the Afatech cards (using a sleep 20) and i didn't get the myriad of i2c errors in the syslog which means they just won't ever tune if that happens. |
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| [11:58:09] | Roklobsta: | so there is possibly a race at startup between the kernel drivers finishing bootup jobs with the DVB cards and mythbackend stomping all over the cards at the same time. I guess the kernel should block until it's finished setting up the cards. |
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| [11:58:28] | Roklobsta: | this setup usual is done one tuner at a time and can take a few seconds. |
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| [17:31:44] | RedPenguin: | Is there some limit in Myth Web that it only shows the current month? mythfilldatabase says data until 11–03 but MythWeb only shows till 31st for everything |
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| [18:09:40] | bill6502: | RedPenguin: can you give the full line from the mfdb log? The one to watch contains: Grab complete. Actual data from 2014-10–19T16:59:13Z to 2014-11–03T16:59:13Z (UTC). those are the time's returned by SD-DD. |
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| [18:13:24] | tgm4883: | RedPenguin: mythweb status page tells me "There's guide data until 2014-11–01 02:00:00 (12 day(s))." |
| [18:15:32] | tgm4883: | RedPenguin: : interestingly enough, I don't have any listings in mythweb starting on Oct 31st at 5:00 PM |
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| [18:41:56] | stuartm: | note that even one programme in twelve days time is enough for it to say there is 12 days of guide data, it could be one day of complete data, 10 days of nothing, then a single entry on the twelve day |
| [18:42:16] | stuartm: | it looks like there may still be bugs in the new Schedules Direct feed |
| [18:56:00] | RedPenguin: | 2014-10–20 12:34:29.349380 I Grab complete. Actual data from 2014-10–19T16:33:06Z to 2014-11–03T16:33:06Z (UTC) |
| [18:56:59] | RedPenguin: | I know yesterday, mythfilldatabase would error out, I think they must have been doing maintence to SD |
| [18:57:54] | RedPenguin: | I see similar to tgm4883, status page says 2014-11–01 04:00:00 (12 days). |
| [18:58:04] | RedPenguin: | So the webpage and mythfilldatabase don't seem to 100% agree |
| [18:58:21] | tgm4883: | RedPenguin: are you able to check mythfrontend right now? |
| [18:58:27] | RedPenguin: | yes |
| [18:58:30] | tgm4883: | RedPenguin: I'm at work, so I can't |
| [18:58:45] | tgm4883: | but check how far into the future it has data |
| [18:59:05] | tgm4883: | mythweb is dying, so I don't doubt that it might have incorrect data |
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| [19:02:21] | RedPenguin: | seems to have identical info |
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| [23:21:24] | Mirandir: | hi everyone, i need help with mythtv install and configure, with mythtbackend i have mysql can't connect error, how resolve it? |
| [23:25:11] | Mirandir: | http://pastebin.com/atc9CxHN mythtbackend with mythtv user |
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