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[01:10:13] | Tin_man: | ok i downloaded myth 14.04 (i think), but i'm a new user and i'm not sure what it really does.. I've read that it geared to videos and such, besides that is there anything else.. i currently use ubuntu 14.04.. ?? |
[01:12:01] | Tin_man: | something happend to my first part of my message.. it said ( i just currently downloaded myth 14.04.. |
[01:14:16] | Tin_man: | guess i keep testing it , and reading.. thanks for the help |
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[01:14:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | patience is not a strong point for him apparently =/ |
[01:15:49] | wagnerrp: | now. now! HELP ME NAU! |
[01:16:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | I accidentally created a re-direct loop last night |
[01:17:08] | Hydr0p0nX: | yay ! |
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[01:37:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | hmmm |
[01:37:51] | Hydr0p0nX: | new windows build is crashin' |
[01:39:20] | Hydr0p0nX: | apparently, the build i'm looking at is from 8/101 |
[01:39:24] | Hydr0p0nX: | err 8/11 |
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[05:24:06] | k-man: | is there any sort of target release date for .28? just out of interest |
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[09:17:19] | stuartm: | no, there's a set of goals we'd like to achieve rather than a fixed release date |
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[10:28:33] | stuartm: | k-man: ^ |
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[10:59:43] | k-man: | ah ok |
[11:00:01] | k-man: | what are they and hows it going heading towards them? |
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[13:22:46] | Oleg_: | guys, I keep getting this error when compiling mythtv: /usr/bin/ld: hdhomerun_channels.o: relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
[13:23:16] | Oleg_: | I passed --extra-cxxflags=-fPIC option to configure |
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[13:23:21] | Oleg_: | but it didn't help |
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[13:53:21] | Oleg_: | folks? |
[13:53:43] | Oleg_: | I specified these options: |
[13:54:11] | Oleg_: | --extra-cxxflags=-fPIC and --extra-cflags=-fPIC |
[13:55:11] | Oleg_: | but I keep getting the same error |
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[15:41:01] | Oleg_: | is anyone alive here? |
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[15:42:09] | stuartm: | Oleg_: have you tried building without any custom args? |
[15:42:23] | stuartm: | ./configure; make; make install ? |
[15:42:55] | Oleg_: | well, if I simply type ./configure, then it can't find any compiler |
[15:43:25] | stuartm: | which distro? |
[15:43:30] | Oleg_: | freebsd |
[15:45:09] | Oleg_: | by the way, it found qt5 include files, not qt4 ones |
[15:45:13] | Oleg_: | is it okay? |
[15:45:17] | stuartm: | that's fine |
[15:45:52] | stuartm: | I've no experience with building on bsd, but we have a bsd builder run by stuarta IIRC, he might be able to suggest where it's going wrong |
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[15:46:22] | stuartm: | you have qmake etc installed? |
[15:47:23] | Oleg_: | yeah |
[15:47:32] | Oleg_: | so, it can build against qt5, right? |
[15:48:16] | Oleg_: | hold on, I'll brb |
[15:48:19] | stuartm: | yes |
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[15:48:48] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: by the look of it you also ran a freebsd builder at some point? |
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[15:51:05] | stuartm: | Oleg_: it can build against qt5 on linux and windows, I don't know whether anyone has tried freebsd |
[15:51:31] | stuartm: | the environment used the the builder might help – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.2 . . . e/logs/stdio |
[15:52:26] | stuartm: | here's the configure args and output – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.2 . . . e/logs/stdio |
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[16:01:06] | Oleg_: | okay, I fixed the problem |
[16:01:27] | Oleg_: | I had this issue because I had too many weird environment variables |
[16:01:41] | Oleg_: | that overrode cxxflags and etc. |
[16:03:56] | stuartm: | glad you've got it sorted |
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[17:40:16] | Oleg_: | I got this error: |
[17:40:18] | Oleg_: | ../../libs/libmythmetadata/libmythmetadata-0.28.so: undefined reference to `Exiv2::ExifData::operator[](std::string const&)' |
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[17:56:38] | stuartm: | do you have libexiv2 installed? |
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[18:02:01] | Oleg_: | well, I recompiled libexiv2 |
[18:09:59] | Oleg_: | ok, just finished building mythtv |
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[19:23:40] | rhollan: | Hey, can mythtv deal with an HD-Homerun prime triple tuner on a differnt network? of must it be on the same LAN segment for discovery to work? |
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[21:48:33] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: i've got a freebsd builder right now |
[21:48:42] | wagnerrp: | running fbsd10/clang/qt4 |
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[21:49:19] | wagnerrp: | https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/buildslaves/ . . . ebsd10-64bit |
[21:57:48] | rhollan: | Hey. I wonder how hard it is to migrate an HDHomeRun Tuner to a different IP address in a different LAN |
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[22:13:49] | wagnerrp: | if you're using the autodetection serial, painless |
[22:15:50] | rhollan: | different LAN. Can I just specify the IP address? |
[22:16:04] | rhollan: | IOW, there's a router inbetween |
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[22:37:46] | wagnerrp: | why? |
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[22:44:16] | rhollan: | I'm planning to rearange my network and have the cable terminate into residential internet, business internet, tuner in my office, and then route over the powerline backbone |
[22:44:49] | rhollan: | I suppose I could do a FE/BE split, but am not prepared to do that yet. |
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[23:01:01] | rhollan: | basically, since I added residential internet to support ComCast OnDemand on the XBOX360, I've been toying with the idea of consilidating the residential and business modems to allow session load-balancing across the two services. |
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[23:21:42] | rhollan: | make sense, or should I just move toward a FE/BE system (and buy yet ANOTHER computer). |
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[23:28:15] | wagnerrp: | seems you could just put both modems on the same network, and use routing tables to decide what goes where |
[23:30:58] | rhollan: | Can't: they both want to do DHCP. |
[23:31:09] | rhollan: | But the issue is the network that the tuner is on. |
[23:32:07] | rhollan: | If I move it close enough to enough to the FE/BE I have to move the whole cable setup there, or run an unsignly cable to the TV which I am trying to avoid. |
[23:32:48] | rhollan: | that's what I have now, together with the residential internet routed through a router local to the TV (and catching the wireless as well) |
[23:33:13] | rhollan: | I could out the biz tuner there too, but then I'd have an unsecured link to the office. |
[23:33:16] | wagnerrp: | so put them each on their own network, and use your router to decide what goes to each modem |
[23:33:25] | rhollan: | doing that. |
[23:33:48] | rhollan: | But that means I have to co-locate the tuner 'cause I don't want an ugly cable going to the TV where the mythtv FE/BE is. |
[23:34:08] | rhollan: | might be easier to just spring for an intel NUC BE for $200 |
[23:34:34] | wagnerrp: | run it through the wall, and install a jack |
[23:34:48] | wagnerrp: | use the same path you used for ethernet |
[23:35:16] | rhollan: | I have structured wiring... sadly there is no drop close to the TV: it's by the damn fireplace. |
[23:35:48] | rhollan: | ... and to which I am now running coax. |
[23:36:13] | rhollan: | Wait. I know how I can do it. |
[23:37:26] | rhollan: | In the office, the DMZ, on which the tuner is, is extended to the living room by a powerline LAN. Right now that goes through a router to PS3, XBOX1, XBOS360, and myth box. I could get a cheap switch and put it ahead of the router and tap the tuner off there. |
[23:37:58] | rhollan: | But, it seems just as easy to specify the IP rather than rely on lan segment discovery |
[23:38:03] | wagnerrp: | segmented networks just sounds painful |
[23:38:31] | rhollan: | I have three: living room, powerline backbone, and office |
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[23:39:33] | wagnerrp: | i've got a couple logical networks, but only the one physical network |
[23:39:37] | rhollan: | The router in the living room also lets me block traffic to admin the mythtv box unless I go through the VPN 'cause I don't trust the poweline lan for security |
[23:40:43] | rhollan: | I'm still thinking of decopling the biz and residental WAN connections, and terminating the residential one in the living room, just to keep the game traffic off the backbone lan |
[23:41:01] | rhollan: | but then I lose the ability to load-balance WAN sessions |
[23:41:31] | wagnerrp: | video games should consume an absolutely trivial amount of your LAN bandwidth |
[23:41:41] | wagnerrp: | on the order of a few kilobits maximum |
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[23:41:47] | rhollan: | I guess. |
[23:43:09] | rhollan: | The disadvantage of the current setup is that if I add another FE, traffic traverses the powerline backbone lan twice. |
[23:43:30] | rhollan: | Which is an argument for a FE/BE and to hell if the connection is routed. |
[23:43:42] | wagnerrp: | or ditching powerline |
[23:43:55] | rhollan: | I'm not crazy about saturating the wireless either |
[23:44:15] | rhollan: | I can get several hundred MB/s over powerline |
[23:44:28] | rhollan: | Mb/s |
[23:44:44] | wagnerrp: | it's still a broadcast network |
[23:45:23] | wagnerrp: | broadcast domains with multiple users and without scheduled communication is a recipe for trouble |
[23:45:40] | rhollan: | Yeah. The current topology is each location (currently office and living room) has it's own local net, routed to the powerline, |
[23:45:59] | rhollan: | There is wlan access at one point over 2.4 and 5 GHz |
[23:46:36] | rhollan: | The thing is, inbound WAN traffic can't saturate the powerline backbone, and location to location traffic is rare |
[23:46:53] | rhollan: | except for either tuner to FE/BE or BE to FE |
[23:47:47] | rhollan: | This way I can consider the powerline backbone insecure, and stick a VPN endpoint on the router in each location when I want to admin devices behind it |
[23:48:56] | rhollan: | What do you think of this: http://www.frys.com/product/7974640?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG |
[23:49:09] | wagnerrp: | a VPN bridge should still route broadcast data |
[23:49:32] | rhollan: | yes, but tunnelled to each local LAN |
[23:49:46] | rhollan: | it's mostlly intended for admin access. |
[23:50:00] | rhollan: | the powerline backbone is treated as insecure |
[23:50:53] | rhollan: | unless you go with something like an intel Atom C2550 with AESNI, most routers can't do more than a few Mb/s over VPN anyway |
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