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Thursday, August 14th, 2014, 00:22 UTC

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dmfrey_:

with an update a few days ago in mythbuntu, i and having some pretty bad audio issues with live tv not having any audio

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dmfrey_:

then if I bring up the osd and dismiss it audio will turn on

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dmfrey_:

if one program ends and audio is on, it will shut off, then turn back on again after that program ends

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dmfrey_:

any idea what is going on here?

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jya:

dmfrey: fixes/0.27 had this issue for about 8 hours between Sunday night and monday morning

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jya:

just update

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dmfrey_:

i did twice and not seeing it, maybe not in the repos yet

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dmfrey_:

i will try and pull

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jya:

it’s been in the repo since tuesday

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dmfrey_:

hmm, i updated last night, let me try again

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jya:

I’m not aware of any issue since the reversal of the live tv change that would cause an issue

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jya:

it’s pretty much back to the way it’s always been

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dmfrey_:

telling me both boxes are up to date

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dmfrey_:

jya, sound right? MythTV Version : v0.27.3-150-g082d5c1

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dmfrey_:

MythTV Branch : fixes/0.27

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jya:

yes

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jya:

this is the latest version… version before that , that had the regression was 147-g628337cb

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dmfrey_:

jya, http://pastebin.com/zKQgyMEp

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dmfrey_:

audio was silent

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jya:

that log doesn’t give me anything… it will always show

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dmfrey_:

oh, i was seeing those error messages

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dmfrey_:

http://pastebin.com/dnvHymZx

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dmfrey_:

for some reason, the mythfrontend is starting twice

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jya:

that could be a reason, especially if one frontend has grabbed the audio card, the other won’t be able to and make no audio

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: does the frontend always start twice? I'm updating to today's packages to test for you

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, this only started happening saturday or sunday

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Hydr0p0nX:

I had an issue w/ audio not playing on the frontend on windows, pause/play corrects it

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jya:

i have no control on how the frontend is started

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dmfrey_:

it only affects livetv, recordings and videos play fine

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jya:

dmfrey_: open a bug on trac, and provide the full, unedited log of the frontend started with -v audio,playback —loglevel=debug

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jya:

i still have a hard time believing the issue would still be there… there are now no difference between the current code, and what it was when 0.27.1 was released in April

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dmfrey_:

i wonder if something didn't update

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dmfrey_:

correctly

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, have you seen mythfrontend starting multiple times in mythbuntu?

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: I'm not seen it happen on it's own. I've forced it to do it in the past

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: there is a pretty short windows when that can actually happen, the startup script checks if it's running prior to starting the frontend

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tgm4883:

so you can't just go in there twice

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tgm4883:

apparently I had a crap ton of updates on my backend, still going

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dmfrey_:

where is that at?

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tgm4883:

/usr/bin/mythfrontend

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tgm4883:

that is our startup script

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dmfrey_:

ha, now i got the frontend to start 3 times

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dmfrey_:

and the audio works

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tgm4883:

I'm not seeing either of those issues

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dmfrey_:

i enabled mythwelcome in the settings

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dmfrey_:

the restarted lightdm

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dmfrey_:

and now there are 3 mythfronted --service and 3 mythfrontend.real process running

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tgm4883:

hmm

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, does the --server start the .real or is it the other way around?

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tgm4883:

the --service?

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tgm4883:

This is the startup script https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/mast . . . hfrontend.sh

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tgm4883:

so if you are using mythwelcome, that starts the frontend I gues

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dmfrey_:

i never used it before

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dmfrey_:

but i was following down /usr/bin/mythfrontend, which pointed me to /etc/mythtb/session-settings

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tgm4883:

are you on 12.04 or 14.04?

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dmfrey_:

12.04

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dmfrey_:

ok, i killed lightdm

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dmfrey_:

then there were still mythfrotnend process running

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dmfrey_:

so killed all them too

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dmfrey_:

started lightdm back up and there is only one process running

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_:

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: ok

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dmfrey_:

sorry, one of each

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dmfrey_:

--server and .real

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dmfrey_:

gonna try the other box now

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: so "pidof mythfrontend.real 2>&1 >/dev/null && wmctrl -a "MythTV Frontend" 2>/dev/null && exit 0" should prevent it from running twice

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: are you running xfce or something else

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dmfrey_:

it is just the base mythbuntu install

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dmfrey_:

on both machines

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tgm4883:

ok

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dmfrey_:

and both had the same issue, which was really odd

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: we should add some logging to the restarting portion of that startup script

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tgm4883:

I'm wondering if it thought it died for some reason and pidof mythfrontend.real wasn't returning a PID

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tgm4883:

hmm, but using mythwelcome would bypass that I think

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dmfrey_:

that's why i thought i would enable it

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dmfrey_:

but with all those others running

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tgm4883:

out of curiosity, are you able to start mythfrontend twice from the command line?

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tgm4883:

just running 'mythfrontend' in two terminals

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tgm4883:

it should start the first time, then switch to the open window when you run it the second time

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dmfrey_:

by accident, i just did that, started a second instance on my fe over ssh to my laptop

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: and it started twice?

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dmfrey_:

not sure, i had to get out of it so i could get back to the desktop

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dmfrey_:

so i couldn't see that window

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tgm4883:

ok

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tgm4883:

Does "pidof mythfrontend.real" return the PID?

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dmfrey_:

yes

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dmfrey_:

i am looking into the second part of that line

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dmfrey_:

wmctrl -a "MythTV Frontend"

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dmfrey_:

returns nothing

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dmfrey_:

so its never geting to that exit statement

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tgm4883:

that shouldn't return anything, that should switch you to the running mythfrontend

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dmfrey_:

oh, ok

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tgm4883:

not sure if that will work over SSH

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dmfrey_:

ok

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tgm4883:

you could run it and then run 'echo $?'

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tgm4883:

see if it returns 0 or 1

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dmfrey_:

1

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tgm4883:

ok

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tgm4883:

what we want to see, if mythfrontend was already running, is it return 0

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tgm4883:

do I would do this

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tgm4883:

open a terminal, then start mythfrontend once

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tgm4883:

switch back to the terminal with alt-tab

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tgm4883:

then run the wmctrl command and see if it switches to the running frontend

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dmfrey_:

let me see if i can vnc into that box and do it real quick

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tgm4883:

You could then also run the echo command and see if it returns 0 or 1

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jya:

dmfrey_: killing lightdm won’t kill any myth program you may have had running. you must quit them first

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tgm4883:

jya: killing lightdm would also kill xfce, so where would mythfrontend be running?

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jya:

a program can perfectly be running, even if X is killed

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jya:

myth doesn’t check if its X connection got killed and interrupt early

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tgm4883:

true, but typically we've been able to restart lightdm and it killed mythfrontend

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jya:

not my experience

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tgm4883:

I suppose that we may have just been lucky in the past

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ikevin:

while i restart mdm myth is killed

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jya:

it may have just caused mythfrontend to crash :)

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, opening a terminal on there and executing wmclt -a ... switches to it correctly

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dmfrey_:

echo returns 0

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tgm4883:

ok

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tgm4883:

now what if you then ran mythfrontend?

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tgm4883:

(not mythfrontend.real)

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dmfrey_:

but both are running right now

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: you mean "mythfrontend --service" and "mythfrontend.real"?

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dmfrey_:

yes

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: ah ok, that is by design

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dmfrey_:

k

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tgm4883:

the 'mythfrontend --service" is just a bash script

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tgm4883:

dmfrey_: ok, so the next time you find multiple mythfrontend.real processes running, i'd suspect that the computer thought it died for some reason and/or pidof didn't return a PID

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dmfrey_:

ok

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dmfrey_:

the be/fe seems to be working fine now

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dmfrey_:

gonna check the fe

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koffel1:

what does this mean? MythSocket(93401e8:-1): WriteStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket.

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, jya, thanks for your help

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tgm4883:

yw

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jya:

koffel1: that is something shown in the log of either the frontend or the backend. when it wants to answer to a query only to find that the client has just discconnected

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dmfrey_:

tgm4883, just checked the other one and the audio seems to be workign there too

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hipitihop:

Request for opinions: My Atom 330 NVidia based rig setup and happy since 2009 has given up the ghost so I am in the market for the next best. Any experiences or recommendations for current state of the art silent HTPC rig ? I'm considering something like this Zotec or other 4k capable system http://www.zotac.com/en/products/mini-pcs/pro . . . 45-plus.html

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ikevin:

hipitihop, for 4K you maybe need to find HW with a decoder compatible with myth

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ikevin:

wagnerrp_, are you here please?

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ikevin:

or any other member of myth staff

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ikevin:

i would like to dev an UI theme and reading the doc for that, are you interrested for translation of the doc?

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knightr:

ikevin, I am not sure the plugin/extension needed for that is installed on the wiki, we wanted to eventually add it but I don't think it is currently installed...

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ikevin:

ok

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justinh:

4k. Pfft. Higher framerates is where it should be going

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hipitihop:

ikevin, thanks will keep that in mind. I guess I had hoped that 4k was a no brainer supported out of the box and I'm just trying to future proof a little. After all don't have a 4k panel yet anyway

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hipitihop:

Is there a wiki page of modern recommended combos for myth ?

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ikevin:

take a look at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Choosing_Frontend_Hardware

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stuartm:

knightr: I'll try to get that sorted in the next few days

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stuartm:

if I can coordinate it with stuarta then it would be good to install that as we migrate the wiki to the new server

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magmastonealex:

Hey, hopefully someone can help me with this. I've got an HVR-1600 PCI card from Hauppage. It works great for ATSC signals, but I'm trying to get the analog portion to work. It's connected to a STB, and I can watch the video stream using VLC, and record it with FFMPEG.

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magmastonealex:

After adding it to MythTV, though, I can't tune any analog channels. They all fail with OpenFile(): File too small(0B).

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magmastonealex:

lsof shows that MythBackend opens the right device, it just seems to not record anything from it.

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magmastonealex:

Any chance someone's gone through the same problem?

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gregL:

magmastonealex, What are you using as an input? Svideo etc?

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magmastonealex:

gregL, I'm using coax

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp_: you happen to be around?

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skd5aner:

I'm getting an issue on recent 0.27-fixes with mythvidexport.py, it's giving me a: " MythError: External system call failed: code 1"

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skd5aner:

from the archives that looks like a metadata issue...

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skd5aner:

these are movies, and when I go in to the edit metadata option on the recording, the inetref is set as tmdb3_.py_###### (where ##### is the inetrefID)

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skd5aner:

and season and episode are 0. What exactly is failing on the mythvidexport pieces?

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skd5aner:

!seen wagnerrp_

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MythLogBot:

wagnerrp_ is here and has been idle for 17 hours 1 minute 44 seconds

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skd5aner:

!seen wagnerrp

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MythLogBot:

wagnerrp was last seen 17 hours 1 minute 27 seconds ago

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wagnerrp_:

the bindings may be having trouble with the inetrefs

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wagnerrp_:

i know i updated them to support it, but i'm not certain if i pushed it

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: I've been very disconnected with the project for about 3 months, but I tihnk there's been a lot of work recently on metadata stuff, right?

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skd5aner:

so, did the inetref field change in -fixes or something and maybe the bidnings have to change to compensate

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wagnerrp:

the inetref now contains a tag referencing the grabber that generated it

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skd5aner:

yea, i saw that...

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skd5aner:

interesting

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wagnerrp:

i have changes to the python bindings to fix that

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wagnerrp:

but it looks like i never finished and pushed them

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skd5aner:

well, geesh, what are we paying you for?!

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skd5aner:

;)

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skd5aner:

I'm assuming you odn't want me to submit a trac ticket, right?

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wagnerrp:

comic relief?

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wagnerrp:

go for it. i had completely forgotten about that

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skd5aner:

k

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skd5aner:

#12243 wagnerrp

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12243 **

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skd5aner:

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