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| [01:43:57] | kichigai: | Hello, I was wondering if anyone here has ever stored their recordings on a NAS before. |
| [01:44:16] | kichigai: | I'm trying to find the most efficient settings for such a configuration. |
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| [01:58:29] | BobLfoot: | I just started getting my 0.27.1 running on centos7 and keep getting this when I try to run the backup script http://paste.fedoraproject.org/122680/06944597 could use suggestions |
| [01:59:24] | BobLfoot: | nevermind I see it now I think |
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| [02:03:00] | BobLfoot: | yep be thorough in config and it works |
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| [02:31:17] | kichigai: | No one's ever flown with NAS storage here? |
| [02:33:51] | Hydr0p0nX: | I haven't |
| [02:34:02] | Hydr0p0nX: | I have 8tb dedicated to storage on the server |
| [02:35:06] | wagnerrp: | i fly with my laptop, and an external hard drive, but i wouldn't consider that a NAS |
| [02:37:49] | kichigai: | I'm just trying to determine the data path for NAS-mounted storage. |
| [02:38:15] | kichigai: | Trying to figure out if I need to upgrade my rather meager backend's NIC to gigabit. |
| [02:38:29] | wagnerrp: | the only value of a NAS is it's redundancy you don't have to manage yourself |
| [02:38:49] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you're better off just sticking the storage on your backend and doing software RAID |
| [02:38:51] | kichigai: | Well, that and I don't have HDDs on hand to give to my backend device. |
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| [02:39:01] | wagnerrp: | you have all the ones in your NAS |
| [02:39:40] | kichigai: | They're all internal drives. |
| [02:39:49] | kichigai: | My backend is an old laptop. |
| [02:40:06] | wagnerrp: | well that would be difficult... |
| [02:40:40] | kichigai: | The drive I had for my dedicated backend died. |
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| [02:41:02] | kichigai: | come ce, come ca |
| [02:41:14] | kichigai: | I'm just trying to figure out how data is passed around. |
| [02:41:26] | wagnerrp: | usually over NFS or CIFS |
| [02:41:37] | kichigai: | Via the NAS, or via my backend? |
| [02:41:59] | wagnerrp: | the NAS will run NFS and CIFS servers, and your backend will mount those shares |
| [02:42:55] | kichigai: | Right, but is there a more direct route I can provide my frontend? |
| [02:43:08] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [02:43:48] | wagnerrp: | are you asking is there's a way to have your frontend access the NAS directly, rather than bouncing content through your backend? |
| [02:43:50] | kichigai: | Well, how is data passing to my front end? Is it NAS -> Backend -> Frontend? |
| [02:43:58] | kichigai: | Basically. |
| [02:44:09] | wagnerrp: | if you mount the shares in the same location on your frontend as they are on the backend |
| [02:44:18] | kichigai: | I see. |
| [02:44:21] | kichigai: | That's doable. |
| [02:44:22] | wagnerrp: | the frontend will search those paths first, before trying to stream content from the abckend |
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| [02:44:41] | kichigai: | That's immensely helpful. |
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| [18:50:51] | kichigai: | Hello all. I just tried switching all my storage directories (DB backups, recordings, streaming, etc) to my NAS, except upon reboot I can no longer connect to my master backend. The network is fine (I'm SSH'd in right now) but MythWeb is down, as are remote front ends. |
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| [18:57:01] | wagnerrp: | is the backend booting up before the network? |
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| [19:02:16] | kichigai: | Negatory. |
| [19:02:20] | kichigai: | I've tried restarting the backend. |
| [19:02:24] | kichigai: | The daemon I mean. |
| [19:02:25] | kichigai: | No go. |
| [19:02:49] | wagnerrp: | could i see the logs from the first ~10 seconds or so after you started the backend? |
| [19:03:24] | kichigai: | Well, I feel like an idiot right now, actually, because I just shut it down. I noticed it's in desperate need of cleaning. |
| [19:03:31] | kichigai: | However I believe that's unrelated. |
| [19:10:29] | kichigai: | One moment, I'm trying to mount the backend's HDD to a VM on my Windows box right now. |
| [19:10:53] | wagnerrp: | why not just boot the backend? |
| [19:15:37] | kichigai: | That's what I'm going to do right now. VirtualBox is being annoying and refusing access to the USB drive. I was hoping to have a chance to do a more thorough cleaning while using the HDD externally. |
| [19:15:55] | kichigai: | Also to transfer a bunch of files using my desktop's gigabit connection instead of the backend's 100M connection. |
| [19:17:43] | ** wagnerrp goes out to buy some replacement conduit, and possible a terminal screwdriver since he forgot his tool at work ** | |
| [19:22:06] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: the value of a NAS for me was that I'd run out of physical space in my backend :) |
| [19:23:05] | kichigai: | stuartm, the value of a NAS for me was that my backend is an old laptop. |
| [19:23:24] | stuartm: | as it turns out I was overly optimistic about how much I'd use the NAS, considering I'd pushed all my blurays and archived stuff there it spends 99.9% of the time idling |
| [19:24:22] | kichigai: | Similar story for me, except I use it also as backup destinations for my machines. |
| [19:25:28] | kichigai: | Well screw me sideways and call me Xenu, I guess my backend just needed a good cleaning! |
| [19:25:50] | kichigai: | System performance has jumped, backend is running properly, and I'm getting *dramatically* improved network throughput! |
| [19:25:51] | stuartm: | my backups go to portable usb drives that I can store in a fireproof safe when I'm not home, or grab before I jump out of the window in the middle of the night ;) |
| [19:26:05] | kichigai: | I'm going to setup Crashplan on my NAS and use that for off-site. |
| [19:28:07] | kichigai: | And nothing underscores how slow your backend system really is quite like enabling compression on rsync and watching performanec plummet. |
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| [19:34:06] | stuartm: | I'm ashamed to say it took me a long time to question why I was using compression in a script to backup mp3s onto a different disk in the same machine, typing rsync -avz was second nature |
| [19:36:45] | kichigai: | I tend to use -vrPhat |
| [19:37:03] | kichigai: | Then again, I use rsync at work to archive a lot of stuff and I get a little paranoid. |
| [19:53:25] | kichigai: | Anyhow, thanks for the help! |
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| [23:04:18] | wagnerrp: | well i'm an idiot |
| [23:04:53] | wagnerrp: | for some reason, when i configured my current firewall like 6 years ago, i decided to give inbound access to my NTP server |
| [23:05:15] | wagnerrp: | seems someone found it, and started using it for a relay attack |
| [23:05:34] | wagnerrp: | the firewall held up just fine, but my router ate itself on all the packets |
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| [23:14:49] | stuartm: | NTP amplification DOS, yay |
| [23:15:32] | wagnerrp: | i don't think that was even a thing when i configured my firewall |
| [23:16:57] | stuartm: | it wasn't, the possibility existed but no-one had figured it out |
| [23:17:10] | stuartm: | by the start of this year though it was all the rage |
| [23:18:17] | stuartm: | worth checking that you're running a patched version of ntpd, won't stop amateurs who don't know any better trying to use your server but it won't actually contribute to a larger attack directed at someone else |
| [23:18:23] | wagnerrp: | i'm not |
| [23:18:43] | stuartm: | oops |
| [23:18:46] | wagnerrp: | its an old FreeBSD 7.something box |
| [23:19:10] | stuartm: | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/348126 |
| [23:19:28] | wagnerrp: | i'm halfway between trying to rebuild it with a modern os, or replacing it with something more modern |
| [23:19:38] | wagnerrp: | it's a little 500MHz Geode with a CF card |
| [23:20:13] | stuartm: | I'd forgotten all about the Geode |
| [23:20:47] | wagnerrp: | came with minipci slots for wireless cards that i never got around to installing |
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