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| [10:31:51] | hyponic: | I have iptv from my ISP (telia) and my STB do the decryption. What i want is to use a HTPC for my channels instead of the STB from my isp. anyone got an idea if that is possible? |
| [10:34:16] | dekarl: | If the decryption is with a DVB-CI module, then MythTV does support that out of the box. If it is with DVB-CI+ then your only way appears to be hooking your existing STB to a HD-PVR with the analog output. |
| [10:35:07] | dekarl: | hmm, ^- that answer is good for DVB-C/S/T with encryption. for IPTV it gets complicated, the second part fits |
| [10:39:48] | hyponic: | what about VCASpy ? |
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| [10:40:52] | dekarl: | looks like you can hook into the channels that are not encrypted with our IPTVRecorder so you can record them in parallel to one encrypted channel via your STB (judging from http://www.shapeshifter.se/2008/04/01/behind- . . . telias-iptv/ ) |
| [10:43:10] | hyponic: | dekarl i have seen this post. it seems very old though |
| [10:43:13] | dekarl: | I have no idea what a VCASpy is (google doesn't either), if it can decode streams without paying for them, then it is not to be discussed in here |
| [10:46:42] | hyponic: | VCASpy on github. and no you have to be paying for the channels with a valid subscription |
| [10:48:52] | dekarl: | ok I see. that appears to be super duper new and experimental (only got added last week), maybe one day someone will demonstrate receiving an IPTV stream with that (ftr looking at https://github.com/mielleman/VCASpy ) |
| [10:50:54] | k-man: | evening all |
| [10:53:34] | dekarl: | hyponic: obviously an open source solution will never be able to support the DRM aspect of VCAS... |
| [10:54:51] | dekarl: | they make it sound so nice "enhance the security perimeter of the pay-TV system" "VCAS and ViewRight STB enable implementation of any possible business rule and content management scheme while satisfying all DVR content security requirements." |
| [10:55:59] | dekarl: | "VCAS for Internet TV may be supplied ... as ... revenue security deployment." |
| [10:56:10] | dekarl: | at least they are very open in their wording |
| [10:56:26] | hyponic: | hmmm.. |
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| [14:08:18] | tpowa: | jya, got a new segfault with mythtv-0.27-fixes |
| [14:08:41] | jya: | open a ticket with a backtrace, and give me here the ticket # |
| [14:08:54] | tpowa: | jya, will do so |
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| [14:23:57] | tpowa: | jya, https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12207 |
| [14:24:41] | tpowa: | jya, if you need more just beep |
| [14:28:05] | jya_: | tpowa: thanks… can you provide a sample where you can reproduce the issue? |
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| [14:30:15] | tpowa: | jya, phew it's a big recording |
| [14:30:43] | tpowa: | jya_, I can try to cut it down again with projectx |
| [14:33:18] | tpowa: | jya_, i'm sure it's again the audio which causes trouble |
| [14:35:38] | jya_: | can’t see anything obvious in your bt |
| [14:36:07] | jya_: | what does “Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.” means? |
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| [14:36:39] | jya_: | you guys may have won the worldcup, doesn’t mean we’re all going to suddenly speak German! |
| [14:37:36] | tpowa: | jya_, file not found |
| [14:37:56] | jya_: | can you build mth from source and cause the segfault again? |
| [14:38:07] | jya_: | missing crucial data there to debug |
| [14:38:21] | tpowa: | jya_, it's build from source with debug and without stripe |
| [14:38:51] | jya_: | why would it say that mpeg2fix.h would be missing then? |
| [14:39:06] | tpowa: | jya_, don't know you are the programmer :D |
| [14:39:40] | jya_: | don’t you have mpeg2fix.h installed? |
| [14:40:32] | jya_: | i can think of one reason it would crash there. |
| [14:40:55] | jya_: | can prevent the crash easily, but why it crash there is a different story |
| [14:41:18] | tpowa: | jya_, true the file is missing |
| [14:41:22] | jya_: | problem is mythtranscode doesn’t detect change of format halfway |
| [14:41:23] | tpowa: | where should this go to? |
| [14:41:41] | tpowa: | I can easily add this file to our build system |
| [14:41:41] | jya_: | it should be in mythtv/programs/mythtranscode/ |
| [14:41:50] | jya_: | it’s part of mythtv |
| [14:41:52] | tpowa: | but why does it need headers to run |
| [14:41:54] | jya_: | source code |
| [14:42:10] | jya_: | because that header contains a one-line code |
| [14:42:22] | tpowa: | ok |
| [14:44:16] | tpowa: | jya_, make INSTALL_ROOT="$pkgdir" install does not install the header |
| [14:44:36] | jya_: | there should be no need to install the header |
| [14:45:05] | jya_: | it should take the source from where it was compiled |
| [14:45:17] | jya_: | unless you’ve done something on the binaries |
| [14:45:27] | tpowa: | I did nothing on binaries |
| [14:45:42] | tpowa: | I just run our building system |
| [14:45:44] | jya_: | such as run it on a machine different to the machine where it was compiled |
| [14:45:59] | tpowa: | well building is done in chroot of course |
| [14:46:27] | jya_: | install the source code somewhere so it’s in the sme location as in your chroot |
| [14:47:26] | jya_: | but i’ll need a sample (or the whole file) to verify the fix |
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| [14:48:01] | jya_: | more difficult to properly fix this than just avoid the crash in that particular spot |
| [14:48:26] | jya_: | and i doubt the fix can be backported, because my guess is that it will be rather invasive |
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| [14:48:58] | jya_: | is that lossless transcode? |
| [14:49:07] | tpowa: | jya_, as always yes |
| [14:49:36] | tpowa: | jya_, i'll try to make a sample with projectx |
| [14:49:43] | jya_: | thanks |
| [14:49:50] | jya_: | how bit is the original? |
| [14:52:42] | jya_: | big i mean |
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| [14:53:54] | tpowa: | jya, 3GB it's a full film |
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| [15:00:43] | jya_: | i have bw :) |
| [15:01:01] | jya_: | you can simply use dd to cut a smaller file |
| [15:01:25] | jya_: | does it crashes right away? the log should tell you where approximately it’s been up to |
| [15:01:56] | jya_: | if so, cut about 20MB before and 30MB after |
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| [15:33:29] | tpowa: | jya_, pretty difficult to get this working |
| [15:33:45] | tpowa: | it seems I need something from beginning and the end to get it segfaulting |
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| [15:37:49] | tpowa: | jya_, seems good I got it working with projectx to segfault it |
| [15:38:00] | jya_: | cool |
| [15:39:40] | tpowa: | is 20MB ok for you or should I try to shrink it further? |
| [15:40:30] | tpowa: | the problem with sky is they send trailers and commercial before and the film and at the end, probably always with changing audio channels |
| [15:40:53] | tpowa: | the film itself is commercial free |
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| [15:54:07] | tpowa: | jya, jya_ do you want the link here or on bugreport? |
| [15:54:49] | jya_: | on the bugreport |
| [15:55:06] | jya_: | those ads have always been a pain |
| [15:55:23] | jya_: | mythtranscode ought to disappear and be buried really |
| [15:55:27] | jya_: | it’s crap |
| [15:55:51] | jya_: | but no one got the heart of rewriting it with a more useful container such as mkv |
| [15:55:58] | tpowa: | jya_, the fun part is I cutted it away and still mythtranscode has an issue with it |
| [15:56:15] | tpowa: | seems it analysis the whole file before doing work |
| [15:56:45] | jya_: | never looked into it much on how it does thing |
| [15:56:54] | jya_: | just fixed bug |
| [15:57:02] | jya_: | it’s a black box to me. |
| [15:57:09] | tpowa: | ah ok |
| [15:57:31] | tpowa: | jya_, anything else you need from me? |
| [15:57:32] | jya_: | i never understood it more than the small context required to understand the problem and fix it |
| [15:57:51] | jya_: | that should be fine.. make sure you give me the command line to reproduce it |
| [15:58:00] | jya_: | running mythtranscode directly |
| [15:58:44] | tpowa: | mythtranscode -i sample\[copy\].mpg --video --mpeg2 -o foo.mpg |
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| [15:59:35] | tpowa: | MythTV Version : v0.27.3-82-g7e83d93-dirty |
| [16:00:23] | jm|laptop: | my TBS quad card is being stupid >.< |
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| [16:05:32] | jya_: | tpowa: in your bug report! |
| [16:05:41] | jya_: | i’m in bed.. not taking note :) |
| [16:07:51] | tpowa: | jya_, all added to bug report |
| [16:09:04] | jya_: | thanks |
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| [18:17:52] | AndroidLoverInSF: | is there some reference for how to backup my mythtv database (recorded videos, scheulded jobs, etc) from 12.04 to a fresh 14.04 install? |
| [18:28:17] | dekarl: | AndroidLoverInSF: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Backend_migration# . . . ting_machine might be it |
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| [19:21:03] | sphery: | AndroidLoverInSF: Backup with http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore |
| [19:21:22] | sphery: | AndroidLoverInSF: To upgrade, simply install the new version of MythTV, then run mythtv-setup and tell it to upgrade your DB |
| [19:21:27] | sphery: | (it will ask, just say yes) |
| [19:35:22] | AndroidLoverInSF: | thanks for the info! |
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| [20:18:51] | sphery: | monodemono: and if you're using a package that compiles MySQL wrong for Mac, please tell the packager to fix it and pass on references as required |
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| [20:18:59] | landstalker: | Evening |
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| [20:20:10] | monodemono: | sphery: Will do. |
| [20:20:21] | sphery: | thx |
| [20:21:30] | landstalker: | Is there a maximum number of tuners mythtv will take or is it down to hardware, performance and expansion? |
| [20:22:20] | monodemono: | So now I'm trying to add my cable box to mythtv (it's hooked up through firewire, and I checked the firewire list, and other people have reported using the same model as me over firewire. |
| [20:22:48] | monodemono: | On the firewire page it says to add it to mythtv, I select capture cards, and then new capture card, and then the type shoudl be firewire, but I don't see firewire on the cardtype list |
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