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| [22:08:56] | nashant: | Hey guys. Is it possible to install a myth backend without the need for xorg at all? |
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| [22:21:26] | wagnerrp: | yes, but you still need the X libraries |
| [22:21:47] | wagnerrp: | and you need some form of X server somewhere to run mythtv-setup |
| [22:22:52] | nashant: | So can I run the setup from a windows machine on a linux backend? |
| [22:23:10] | wagnerrp: | if you have an X server on that windows machine to run mythtv-setup through |
| [22:23:32] | wagnerrp: | i use xming, but technically that's still xorg |
| [22:23:40] | wagnerrp: | you could use xwin32 or exceed |
| [22:24:26] | nashant: | Hmm. Is there a guide somewhere? |
| [22:24:39] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup is an X client |
| [22:24:49] | wagnerrp: | follow any guide that explains how to run an X client on a remote X server |
| [22:25:09] | nashant: | ok, cool |
| [22:25:45] | wagnerrp: | basically, the server must be listening on the network, and you set the DISPLAY variable to point to it |
| [22:26:03] | nashant: | but I have to run an x server on the myth vm |
| [22:26:11] | wagnerrp: | either you manage the authentication token, or you use xhost to disable it |
| [22:26:13] | wagnerrp: | vm? |
| [22:26:30] | wagnerrp: | you can get native windows X servers, no need to run a VM to get one |
| [22:26:45] | nashant: | well the media server I have is just a xen domU |
| [22:27:11] | nashant: | And everything is managed from my windows laptop |
| [22:27:28] | wagnerrp: | oh, the backend is running on a VM... that's really unnecessary unless you must run multiple independent kernels on that box |
| [22:27:40] | wagnerrp: | and it's really a mistake if you have to access any special hardware (like tuner cards) |
| [22:28:41] | nashant: | Yeah, I do. Got a Win 2012 server, a CentOS install, 2 Ubuntu, etc |
| [22:28:53] | nashant: | Largely for study |
| [22:29:04] | nashant: | But It's my media server too |
| [22:29:13] | nashant: | The pci passthrough isn't a problem |
| [22:29:16] | nashant: | Got that sorted |
| [22:29:24] | wagnerrp: | unless you're running only network tuners like an hdhomerun, pci passthrough _will_ be a problem |
| [22:29:41] | wagnerrp: | tuner card drivers aren't meant to handle the additional latency that causes |
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| [22:29:48] | wagnerrp: | it may work, it just as likely wont |
| [22:30:09] | wagnerrp: | it's really a crapshoot, and the driver devs tend to not want anything to do with it |
| [22:30:15] | nashant: | hmm |
| [22:30:33] | nashant: | That might be why I'm having such issues with tvheadend |
| [22:30:37] | wagnerrp: | give it a try. if you have weird issues, expect the VM is the cause |
| [22:31:17] | wagnerrp: | USB tends to fare a bit better, simply because it is inherently a low performance, CPU driven bus |
| [22:31:44] | nashant: | Maybe I'll try installing everything on the dom0. I've got XBMC running on that anyway |
| [22:31:45] | wagnerrp: | it's already designed to work around such deficiencies |
| [22:32:06] | nashant: | Well, installing the live tv stuff |
| [22:33:44] | nashant: | I'll give it a go on the vm, can't hurt |
| [22:34:00] | nashant: | If not then I'll see what happens on the dom0 |
| [22:34:04] | nashant: | Cheers for your help! |
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