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| [06:11:07] | k-man: | so with my TVs remote and CEC, the enter key in the middle of the arrow keys does nothing. but stop is like exit, and pause is like enter |
| [06:11:25] | k-man: | which is good in that it works, but bad in that its fiddly and non intuitive |
| [06:11:56] | k-man: | also, how does one get to the menu using the CEC keys? |
| [06:12:02] | k-man: | like if you press M |
| [06:16:37] | k-man: | wow, a forum |
| [06:16:40] | k-man: | crazy |
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| [07:59:12] | sewardrobert: | Hello, my cable company is moving to a 100% digital delivery. How best to build a mythtv box for this unfortunate upgrade? |
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| [07:59:29] | sewardrobert: | I read the Digital Broadcast FAQ and saw the recommendation for Hauppage's Digital DVR tuner, so I would probably select that. Any advice beyond that? |
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| [10:47:32] | wagnerrp: | sewardrobert: depending on their rules, you may be able to use a cablecard tuner |
| [10:47:52] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not (and cannot) implement DRM, so we are not privy to any DRM protected content from a cablecard tuner |
| [10:48:04] | wagnerrp: | we can only access content marked "copy freely" |
| [10:48:12] | wagnerrp: | for anything else, the only option is analog capture |
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| [11:30:46] | justinh: | k-man: wot no network control? |
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| [12:33:36] | k-man: | justinh, well, i'm trying to come up with a good way of controlling the TV+mythtv from just one remote |
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| [13:20:46] | moparisthebest: | this is the second time in a week a super strange issue with mythtv has came up |
| [13:21:04] | moparisthebest: | tuners show up fine, it shows it's recording when it's supposed to |
| [13:21:11] | moparisthebest: | except no files ever show up on the filesystem |
| [13:21:37] | moparisthebest: | and therefore, when it passes a filename to my user job, my user job failes because the file doesn't exist |
| [13:22:02] | moparisthebest: | last time it happened, starting/stopping myth-backend didn't fix it, and neither did unmounting/remounting filesystem, I had to reboot |
| [13:22:18] | moparisthebest: | and I upgraded kernels so I thought that fixed it, until it happened again a few days later |
| [13:22:21] | moparisthebest: | any ideas? |
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| [13:33:14] | sphery: | moparisthebest: generally that means that your capture device drivers are not sending any data at all to MythTV, but are not sending any errors |
| [13:33:33] | sphery: | rebooting the system likely did a hard reset of the capture devices |
| [13:33:41] | sphery: | which made them work with your drivers, again |
| [13:33:49] | sphery: | until they got into a bad state, again |
| [13:34:22] | sphery: | it's possible a "soft reset" of the devices will work (unloading and reloading the kernel modules of the device drivers) |
| [13:34:48] | sphery: | but to fix it long term, you'll need to find better/more reliable drivers or hardware :( |
| [13:34:52] | moparisthebest: | ok so at least I know I'm not going insane hehe |
| [13:34:57] | sphery: | hehe |
| [13:35:17] | moparisthebest: | yea I need some better hardware, this has been known to panic the kernel if I hotplug it |
| [13:35:22] | sphery: | yeah, it's frustrating, but that's likely the culprit--assuming there are no errors mentioned in the mythbackend logs |
| [13:35:26] | moparisthebest: | and it's USB 2.0, so that should never happen |
| [13:35:50] | sphery: | (and if errors are mentioned, they should say exactly what the problem is--possibly even showing errors given by capture device drivers) |
| [13:36:00] | sphery: | ah, yeah |
| [13:36:01] | sphery: | USB |
| [13:36:15] | sphery: | I've stayed away from USB capture devices for exactly that reason |
| [13:36:36] | sphery: | USB (at least 2.x and below) is not a very long-term stable/reliable bus |
| [13:37:18] | sphery: | USB 3 should be better (because of major changes to the protocol), but I have no experience with USB 3 capture devices on USB 3 ports |
| [13:37:48] | sphery: | (and, from what I understand, USB 3 in Linux is still a bit, er, immature--so probably not yet stable/reliable enough for a DVR appliance) |
| [13:38:10] | sphery: | that said, you may be able to work around its unreliability by forcing reboots |
| [13:38:32] | sphery: | such as by setting up automatic shutdown with mythwelcome/mythshutdown/backend shutdown functionality |
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| [13:54:30] | moparisthebest: | I've got everything running on this box and it's not very fun to do a reboot actually, what tuner would you recommend that you have good experiance with? |
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| [14:07:05] | Kwisher_wrk: | moparisthebest: hdhomerun |
| [14:07:19] | Kwisher_wrk: | dual tuner network attached |
| [14:07:46] | Kwisher_wrk: | for OTA |
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| [14:24:08] | moparisthebest: | Kwisher_wrk: so there are 2 of them now, an mpeg2 and an h264 one? |
| [14:24:47] | moparisthebest: | my coworker has had nothing but problems with the h264 one with mythtv, but also he is not the most, uh, linuxy? :) |
| [14:25:24] | Kwisher_wrk: | i have two, on standard NTSC and one for cable |
| [14:25:38] | Kwisher_wrk: | pretty easy to setup |
| [14:26:04] | moparisthebest: | the one that records in h264 or mpg2? |
| [14:26:21] | Kwisher_wrk: | not sure |
| [14:26:45] | Kwisher_wrk: | all the recording files are *.mpg |
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| [16:44:10] | justinh: | well, time to shut this thing down so I can ventilate the cabinet |
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| [17:16:31] | justinh: | well that should help the ventilation. Took the back off the cabinet. I should never have put a back on it. Heh |
| [17:17:35] | justinh: | the system boots without the TV switched on now too.. with help from the dummy VGA plug. Silly nvidia |
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| [18:15:30] | louisdk: | Will it be possible to run mythfrontend as a standalone session without the need for a window manager? |
| [18:22:58] | justinh: | of course |
| [18:25:27] | louisdk: | justinb: So I can configure a Display Manager like Lightdm to just start mythfrontend? |
| [18:25:41] | louisdk: | *justinh; sorry ;) |
| [18:26:58] | SteveGoodey: | louisdk: I thought Mythbuntu did that? |
| [18:28:16] | louisdk: | SteveGoodey: Mythbuntu are running an Xfce session beneath the mythfrontend. |
| [18:29:05] | sid3windr: | i've run mythfrontend straight from kdm |
| [18:30:35] | SteveGoodey: | louisdk: Strange, I had to do some changes to lightdm.conf to get some things working in my latest version of Mythbuntu. 12.04.4 |
| [18:31:30] | louisdk: | SteveGoodey: What things did you need to fix? |
| [18:32:29] | SteveGoodey: | louisdk: Timing problem as I was using an SSD. And getting the frigging screensaver to stop. |
| [18:36:08] | justinh: | if you have a flat panel TV you might want to consider using a screensaver – or at least blanking |
| [18:36:31] | justinh: | LCD burnin is real. I've seen it in a Spar shop of all places |
| [18:39:10] | SteveGoodey: | If I'm not using Mythtv the TV ain't switched to it. It was a right mission to get it stopped. Me being stupid didn't help! |
| [18:39:35] | justinh: | heh. do a proper exit. no killing it or it gets re-animated :P |
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| [19:07:54] | SteveGoodey: | louisdk: mythbuntu dev has confirmed lightdm on 12.04.4. :-) |
| [19:10:13] | louisdk: | SteveGoodey, sure. Both 12.04 and 14.04 run lightdm, xfce and mythfrontend. |
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| [21:43:13] | justinh: | sigh. make menuconfig always just used to work |
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| [21:52:04] | justinh: | oo. It builds! I had to delete some patchy stuff |
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