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aarcane, adante, adonaros, aloril, amessina, amizraa, AndyCap, Azelphur, Beirdo_, benc-, berglh_, Bhaal, biffhero, blinky42, BLZbubba_, brfranse_, caelor, Captain_Murdoch, ChanServ, clever, croccydile, croppa, ctmjr, Cubber, dahlSTROM, Dave123, Dave123_, devinheitmueller, disputin, dkeith___, esperegu, eye69, felipe`, fetzerch, Floppe, Freejack, Geoff__, ghoti, Gibby, gregL, GreyFoxx, grumpydevil, Hoochste-, Hydr0p0nX, infinite, infojunky, i_is_cat, J-e-f-f-A, jams, jarle, jarryd, Jay2k1, jbrett, jduggan, jmusits_, jm|laptop, johnsu01, joki, jpabq, jst, justdave, justinh, k-man, kartouch, kc, Korny, kurre2, kwmonro``, laga, lapion, LedHed, len_, materdaddy, mengoshmink, Metoer, MilkBoy_, MissionCritical, monkeypet, moparisthebest, Moscherkobold, Muzer, MythLogBot, mzb, nameless`, nephyrin, neufeld, nikgod, niobos_, niska, nutron, nutron|h, pmmd, purserj, quicksilver, RagingComputer, RagingMind, robink, rsiebert, runelind, ryan_turner|MTW, Sakuravaln, Scopeuk, Seeker`, seld, Shadow__X, Sharky112065, shubes, sid3windr, simcop2387, skd5aner, sl1ce, sphery, squidly, sraue, StevenR, stuarta, sulx, superm1, tgm4883, toeb_, tonsofpcs, toorima, troyt, trumee, Twiggy2cents, TWWOC, ubIx, unforgiven512, Vaelys, wagnerrp, wahrhaft, Warped, wseltzer1, wsuetholz, XDS2010, xris, zoktar, [mrx], _abbenormal, _charly_, _nyloc_
Monday, April 21st, 2014, 00:01 UTC
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[13:48:27] lautriv: i was used to have my video on certain frontends set to opengl with a gently resource usage which worken from approx 0.21 to 0.26 however in 0.27+ it is stuttering and i observe mythfrontend to eat all CPU . unfortunately the setting without opengl ( btw this are intel graphics ) is way to bright and won't change regardless of contrast/brightness. any ideas ?
[13:48:44] lautriv: s/worken/worked
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[16:58:13] Vollstrecker: Hi, how can record 2 shows on the same channel, with early start and stop, right after each other?
[16:59:41] Vollstrecker: By now, I have sheduled two episodes of a series, and just the later one gets recorded, no other recording happens in this time, I use dvb-c and mythtv-setup reports 2 tuners on this card.
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[17:24:26] Yippee38: Hi all. I'm trying to connect my mythtv frontend to the backend. I had originally setup the frontend to be a FE/BE box (set IP to 127.0.0.1). Then I decided to use a separate BE. Now I can't figure out how to change the IP that the frontend is using to find the BE. I don't have a /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file. Any suggestions?
[17:30:58] Yippee38: nm. I think I found the solution.
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[19:03:17] tonsofpcs: so I've got a new machine assembled and I currently have 0.25 on an existing system. I want to migrate my shows but move to 0.27 (or maybe newer?). What's the best way to do this?
[19:03:51] tonsofpcs: (new machine is a blank slate – 1TB drive)
[19:03:56] tonsofpcs: existing system is mythbuntu
[19:04:31] tonsofpcs: (I see 14.04 was released on thursday...)
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[20:02:20] justinh: tonsofpcs: so see the wiki about moving a database to a new host
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[20:41:21] lautriv: is it possible to run a 0.26 frontend on a 0.27 backend b/c it's ranting about db-scheme :(
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[20:45:29] justinh: lautriv: nope. because of the db schema
[20:46:19] lautriv: justinh, gussed that but that is BS because intel on newer xorg is crap :(
[20:46:49] wagnerrp_: what do intel drivers have anything to do with mythtv version?
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[20:47:18] lautriv: wagnerrp, dependencies
[20:47:53] wagnerrp: so run mythtv on an older xorg/drivers
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[20:48:47] wagnerrp: mythtv just requires an x server
[20:48:57] wagnerrp: any halfway recent version of xorg will do
[20:49:10] lautriv: wagnerrp, that is the next step but i guess it'll refuse to do so because of libc and friends
[20:51:29] lautriv: there you go -> transcode depends on libc6 (>= 2.15)
[20:51:41] lautriv: always the same shit
[20:54:35] justinh: friends don't let friends do Intel video?
[20:54:53] ** justinh goes back to shilling for nVidia **
[20:55:37] lautriv: worked fine for years, simple backend in the bedroom, no reason to change this.
[20:56:33] justinh: yeah my frontend worked fine for years, til I decided to update one day & all the video broke
[20:56:50] justinh: I ended up on linhes just to get non-tearing video playback
[20:57:05] justinh: then got rid of the onboard i830 junk
[20:58:05] lautriv: it's no junk just because the xorg went crappy and even worse to recomment NV which is the most propietary.
[20:58:24] justinh: if you want open video drivers that work, carry on dreaming
[20:58:26] wagnerrp: proprietary, perhaps, but functional
[20:58:55] devinheitmueller: Proprietary or not, things that actually work go a long way in my book compared to things that are completely broken.
[21:00:06] justinh: man, this reverse engineering of windows driver stuff is neither fun nor easy
[21:00:27] devinheitmueller: justinh: welcome to my world.  :-)
[21:00:27] justinh: even when it's just as 'simple' as pasting register dumps from windows into a linux driver
[21:01:29] lautriv: one point more to stay on intel since they provide something for linux :P
[21:01:36] justinh: so do nvidia
[21:01:52] justinh: I'm sure they'd open source the drivers if they could – as in if it was all their own IP
[21:02:19] lautriv: beside that, it is a slim case, there is not even space for another
[21:02:37] devinheitmueller: justinh: why bother? The number of people who care about “free” bareiy registers.
[21:02:52] justinh: heh there's that too
[21:03:00] justinh: I don't give a damn either way. I want working first
[21:03:19] devinheitmueller: It’s not like Nvidia is losing sales because people are choosing broken Intel graphics over Nvidia graphics that actually work.
[21:03:41] lautriv: justinh, may i guess you run ubuntu and winblows ?
[21:03:50] tonsofpcs: justinh: right, is it recommended that I build the new host and move content and db or migrate the host and then upgrade?
[21:03:55] devinheitmueller: Sure, there are always going to be the fringe that says, “Give me free drivers or give me death!” but again that’s hardly something you find much of.
[21:04:10] justinh: winblows?
[21:04:14] justinh: winBLOWS?
[21:04:21] justinh: Win WIN. actually
[21:04:49] lautriv: thought that :P
[21:04:54] justinh: if I want to do actual creative/useful work on a machine I need windows. GIMP? Pitivi? BLAH
[21:05:23] devinheitmueller: There are plenty of things I don’t like about Windows. There are also plenty of things that Windows does *MUCH* better than Linux. I’m not going to say Windows does everything crappy and Linux is super awesome at everything.
[21:05:30] justinh: lautriv: if the open source software I wanted to use for jobs I like to do with computers didn't SUCK I'd use that
[21:06:07] justinh: it's all a means to an end for me. I don't really care how many people died making it. Except nobody really did, did they?
[21:06:43] lautriv: justinh, so why do you use myth at all ?
[21:07:01] ** devinheitmueller departs now before getting banned for suggesting that Linux isn’t the super most awesome thing since sliced bread. **
[21:07:34] justinh: lautriv: because it works, and is better than the other software I've tried by a country mile
[21:08:00] justinh: not only software. actual hardware DVRs too
[21:08:28] justinh: believe me I WANT to kick the computers into touch for DVRing, I really do
[21:08:34] lautriv: justinh, see that counts also for other things if you get used to it ;)
[21:09:09] justinh: get used to it? MythTV works, I know it like the back of my hand. It's reliable as hell
[21:09:24] justinh: It always has been that way, for me
[21:09:47] justinh: and the whole reason I got into mythtv? Because I couldn't get my tuner to work under windows for love nor money
[21:10:04] lautriv: i would say "it works somewhat" but has also issues but heh, no alternative for M$
[21:10:22] justinh: had it been any other way I wouldn't be here – and I'd probably be yelling at the crummy alternative
[21:10:56] justinh: I wouldn't run MCE. It's as crippling as a dedicated DVR machine
[21:11:30] justinh: the others.. aren't bad but they ain't no MythTV
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[22:06:52] justinh: hmm this dw2102 driver is doing some things I can't figure out. Like why are they using 0x1900 as the streaming control? That's not what the Win7 driver is doing
[22:07:12] justinh: lautriv: oh yeah and that's another reason we need windows. To get hardware working on Linux!
[22:08:18] justinh: because sometimes the only open source compatible hardware also works out as the most expensive, and ways around that need to be found
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[22:12:48] justinh: ah forum.mythtv.org seems to be down here
[22:13:23] justinh: and it's not just me. phew
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[22:26:38] lapion: hmm anyone else having the frontend suddenly pausing playback and giving a black screen ?
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[22:29:07] wagnerrp: justinh: yeah, been down for about a day now
[22:29:14] wagnerrp: i think stuarta personally hosts it
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