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| [00:21:51] | ctmjr: | it's in mythfrontend under watch videos menu scan for changes |
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| [16:51:44] | oneodd1: | I'm running into a problem I can't seem to google the answer for |
| [16:51:55] | oneodd1: | I have one backend with five drives |
| [16:52:23] | oneodd1: | when I run mythtv-setup and add the four drives to a storage group I get random results |
| [16:52:47] | oneodd1: | I've mounted the four drives as /video[A-D] with mythtv:mythtv |
| [16:53:02] | oneodd1: | they are all 750G drives so I would expect something close to 3TB |
| [16:53:25] | oneodd1: | but this is what I get instead: |
| [16:53:27] | oneodd1: | MythTV Drive #2: |
| [16:53:27] | oneodd1: | Directories: myth:/videoC, myth:/videoD |
| [16:53:27] | oneodd1: | Total Space: 704,048 MB |
| [16:53:53] | oneodd1: | right now I don't have /videoA assigned and /videoB shows up as Myth Drive #1 |
| [16:53:53] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
| [16:54:36] | oneodd1: | anyone experienced this or have thoughts about it? |
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| [16:57:13] | oneodd1: | I'm using the .27 +fixes on fedora 20 from rpmfusion |
| [16:57:27] | lapion: | anyone else having problems retrieving schedules recently from dvb ? |
| [16:58:47] | oneodd1: | I'm not using it lapion |
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| [17:01:35] | sphery: | oneodd1: MythTV tries very hard to determine if directories in your Storage Groups exist on the same file system. Unfortunately, there's no good way to know for sure, so it takes a "better to be wrong and think 2 separate file systems are the same than to be wrong and tell the user he has more space than he does" approach. |
| [17:01:59] | lapion: | sphery, are you using any dvb sources ? |
| [17:02:32] | sphery: | The only way we have to determine if file systems are the same is to look at the total space on the file system, the space used, and the space available. If they all match (within a small margin), we assume the directories exist on the same file system. |
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| [17:03:17] | sphery: | So, since you have new/empty file systems on similar/same hard drives, it's assuming that there are fewer file systems than there really are. |
| [17:03:33] | sphery: | And as soon as you start recording shows to them, it will realize that they're different file systems. |
| [17:04:18] | sphery: | If you want to prove it to yourself, do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/videoA/garbage bs=1M count=100 |
| [17:04:42] | sphery: | and then it will know that A is different (and if you use a different count on any others that are grouped, you can see them separating) |
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| [17:05:09] | sphery: | lapion: No, I'm in the US, so no DVB (or useful EIT) |
| [17:05:27] | lapion: | ok thanks.. |
| [17:06:28] | sphery: | oneodd1: Also, based on your description of your mounts, I should mention that you should /never/ put mount point directories into Storage Groups. So, if you've mounted file systems at /video[A-D], you need to create a directory under those to hold recordings and add that directory to your Storage Group(s) |
| [17:07:01] | sphery: | oneodd1: So: sudo install -d -m775 -o mythtv -g mythtv /videoA/recordings |
| [17:07:12] | sphery: | (and similar for other /video* directories) |
| [17:07:21] | ** natanojl was too slow to lookup e.g. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/386384#386384 for oneodd1 ** | |
| [17:07:23] | sphery: | then put /videoA/recordings into the Storage Group(s) |
| [17:08:39] | sphery: | otherwise, if for some reason the system is unable to mount a file system or you unmount it, MythTV will write to /videoA (for example), which is the directory on the root file system, and it will fill up that file system and/or put some recordings into an area of the root file system that will become hidden when you properly mount the other file system |
| [17:09:25] | sphery: | natanojl: nice--good description there, too :) |
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| [17:10:21] | sphery: | oneodd1: See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Storage_Groups#Set . . . orage_Groups for more on directory structure for Storage Groups |
| [17:10:39] | natanojl: | sphery: :) |
| [17:21:05] | oneodd1: | damn sphery you rock! |
| [17:21:13] | oneodd1: | that's far more of an answer than I expected! |
| [17:21:19] | oneodd1: | what's more, I understand it :) |
| [17:23:52] | oneodd1: | you too natanojl |
| [17:24:53] | natanojl: | oneodd1: thanks :) |
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| [17:35:07] | niobos_: | I'm choosing components for a MythTV system (combined backend-frontend, but might evolve to BE-only with new FE) |
| [17:35:37] | niobos_: | any feedback welcome: http://niobos.dest-unreach.be/myth.md (sorry, links are to mostly Dutch pages, but specs are readable) |
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| [17:43:04] | niobos_: | items of most concern are GPU: either a passively cooled full-height, double width board; or a half-hight and double-width actively cooled; |
| [17:43:47] | niobos_: | half-height might be more "future proof" if I decide to split BE/FE and have a slimmer FE. |
| [17:44:09] | niobos_: | but on the other hand, by then a similar GPU will cost close to nothing |
| [17:44:51] | niobos_: | another item of concern: PSU. If I add the max power consumptions; I think a 200W should do |
| [17:45:02] | niobos_: | but that sounds little compared to what I usually see in machines |
| [17:45:17] | niobos_: | but getting a 400W will probably be less efficient? |
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| [18:08:33] | sphery: | niobos_: IMHO, you have the 2 most important things: a CPU that should decode about anything you want to watch and a VDPAU-compatible nvidia video card |
| [18:22:34] | niobos_: | sphery: thx |
| [18:23:32] | niobos_: | I guess building MythTV boxes becomes easier over time, since most components get more performant, but TV-req's stay more constant |
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| [19:42:47] | Quantum`: | Is there any way to play a 3D movie (side-by-side) in Myth? Maybe convert to red/green 3D? |
| [19:55:52] | justinh: | maybe only play one side rather than totally ruin it? |
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| [20:42:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | Quantum, manual zoom mode. |
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| [21:46:38] | Russ: | for hdmi devices (tv, amplifiers) that have a slow lock for audio (5 seconds), is there any way to get mythtv to keep the audio channel open? |
| [21:46:56] | Russ: | right now, anytime audio starts, there is a 5 second delay until I actually get audio |
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| [21:47:44] | Russ: | I can do aplay -fS16_LE </dev/zero to play silence, but then I have to setup dmix |
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| [21:50:53] | justinh: | 5 seconds? Sheesh why in the 21st century do access times keep getting *longer* ? |
| [21:51:08] | Russ: | its an older samsung tv |
| [21:51:26] | justinh: | turn a TV on, you have to wait for it to 'boot up'.. turn a car stereo on, you have to wait for it to index the files on the SD card... |
| [21:51:34] | justinh: | and God forbid you just want to turn a phone on |
| [21:52:35] | justinh: | I thought linux audio devices were pretty dumb – like even if there's nothing to listen it'll just keep going |
| [21:53:22] | justinh: | just put it out of the pipe & carry on. Isn't that what happens? |
| [21:54:06] | Russ: | apparently not with all hdmi audio devices |
| [21:54:52] | justinh: | stuff like this is what's made me in no particular rush to upgrade anything |
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| [22:12:58] | Russ: | hmm...wonder if anyone is working on a true live tv plugin for myth yet, it sure be nice to throw out the cable box |
| [22:18:50] | tgm4883: | Russ, a live tv plugin, isn't that there by default? |
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| [22:36:16] | justinh: | that's another thing.. channel change times on embedded stuff are also getting bad |
| [22:36:56] | Russ: | its not really livetv, it schedules a recording and then plays it |
| [22:37:08] | justinh: | so? |
| [22:37:10] | Russ: | really high latencies compared to an actual cable box |
| [22:37:16] | justinh: | so? |
| [22:37:26] | Russ: | annoying as fuck to $wife |
| [22:37:32] | justinh: | so? |
| [22:37:37] | justinh: | ;-) |
| [22:37:48] | Russ: | bears poop in the woods |
| [22:37:57] | justinh: | people like the ability to pause/rewind 'live' tv |
| [22:38:01] | justinh: | so it stays like this |
| [22:38:10] | justinh: | and no, it's no walk in the park to make it dual mode |
| [22:38:20] | justinh: | or if it were, it already would be |
| [22:38:50] | Russ: | oi, if I ever finish with school, I'll have to make a hdhomerun livetv plugin |
| [22:43:18] | justinh: | it didn't take my wife long to get out of the habit of live tv |
| [22:44:14] | justinh: | once they discover ad breaks are a thing of the past they soon wise up to why recording everything is superior |
| [22:44:58] | Russ: | ah yes, the mythtv, you are wrong as to wanting a useful feature argument |
| [22:45:05] | justinh: | and in other news, seems I'm just not capable of playing back a USB data sequence to bring a DVB-T2 tuner into life |
| [22:45:55] | justinh: | Russ: no, but code always wins. If you can come up with a way of allowing 'real' live TV *and* the traditional mythtv way, bring it on |
| [22:46:19] | Russ: | why do you need an *and* |
| [22:46:26] | Russ: | a plugin is a plugin |
| [22:46:32] | justinh: | besides, for a lot of people – developers included – live tv channel changes are quick |
| [22:47:12] | justinh: | just like loading the list of recorded shows is quick. *buntu, for some reason puts a big spanner in the works somehow (and other distros) |
| [22:47:46] | Russ: | its because people somehow thing 4 seconds is fast |
| [22:48:11] | justinh: | you don't ever want to meet a number of the commercial DVRs over here then |
| [22:48:13] | Russ: | also livetv always fails on the first try because my backend drives are spun down |
| [22:48:31] | Russ: | and then the "at least its better than commercial dvrs" |
| [22:48:45] | justinh: | so get writing then :-) |
| [22:48:52] | Russ: | I need to finish my thesis |
| [22:49:24] | justinh: | devs here code in their own free time, so it's a bit much to expect everybody to cowtow to every demand that comes along |
| [22:49:37] | Russ: | that's why I'm not asking anybody to do anything |
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| [23:03:46] | tgm4883: | Russ, honestly, live tv is an antiquated way of watching tv |
| [23:04:17] | tgm4883: | justinh, and what is *buntu doing again? |
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