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| [00:35:33] | [R]: | wagnerrp: oh man, multirec rocks my socks off |
| [00:44:21] | wagnerrp: | in other news, Darth Vader announces his bid for Ukranian presidency |
| [00:45:06] | [R]: | lol |
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| [01:14:48] | PatrickDickey: | Hi everyone. So I moved my master backend to a Fedora computer. Everything *seems* to be working right on it (as I can view my recorded programs from that computer). However I can't connect with any remote frontends. I get the setup screen where you select your language, and regardless of what I choose there, the frontend crashes and comes back to that same screen. I've verified that my backend is using an IP address other |
| [01:14:48] | PatrickDickey: | than localhost, and the config.xml and mysql.txt files on the frontends point there. Any suggestions? |
| [01:15:25] | [R]: | firewall? |
| [01:16:31] | wagnerrp: | is the database server configured to listen on the network? |
| [01:16:54] | Kwisher: | PatrickDickey: did you check the db password? |
| [01:18:24] | PatrickDickey: | Yes. I think it's right. I have the same one in all of my configs, as what's on the Fedora backend. However, the one frontend has MySQL on it, and the mythtv user has a different password. |
| [01:19:14] | PatrickDickey: | The frontend I'm talking about used to be the master backend (I removed the backend completely). So, would I need to change the password on it also? |
| [01:20:02] | Kwisher: | i think they all need to be the same |
| [01:23:22] | PatrickDickey: | One other quick question then. When I backed up my database on the old backend, would it have backed up the password there? |
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| [01:27:08] | wagnerrp: | no, it would not have |
| [01:29:09] | PatrickDickey: | ok. I'll check my firewall, and then I'll check to make sure all of the passwords are the same. |
| [01:31:35] | [R]: | well if the password is wrong |
| [01:31:38] | [R]: | it would tell you... |
| [01:42:52] | Blue1: | WoW. I got some very strange message in the log — the problem turned out to be that the hdhomerun tuner was not plugged in. When you plug it in, you need to restart the backend. I dunno - |
| [01:43:34] | [R]: | yeah, if the tuner wasn't there when it started... it doesnt magically keep searching for it |
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| [01:54:13] | PatrickDickey: | Ok, so the firewall is not running (according to firewall-cmd). So that's not the issue. |
| [01:58:36] | PatrickDickey: | What I noticed in mythfrontend.log is that it tries pinging the master backend, and then it binds to the IP addresses on the frontend computer. Then it fails to open a connection. |
| [01:59:02] | wagnerrp: | can we see the logs? |
| [02:00:02] | PatrickDickey: | Sure. I'll pastebin the frontend one in a few minutes. I'll have to clean it up a bit, since it's got a lot of old information in it. |
| [02:06:11] | PatrickDickey: | http://pastebin.com/MBpMPr7r I wasn't sure how much of the log it will let me paste, so that's part of it. |
| [02:07:13] | [R]: | Mar 29 18:19:23 dcky-ubuntu64 mythfrontend.real: mythfrontend[28673]: E CoreContext mythdbcon.cpp:839 (prepare) Driver error was [2/1142]:#012QMYSQL3: Unable to prepare statement#012Database error was:#012SELECT command denied to user 'mythtv'@'dcky-ubuntu-fedoraxp.local.lan' for table 'storagegroup' |
| [02:07:26] | [R]: | looks like your database permissions are all screwed up |
| [02:09:56] | PatrickDickey: | So would that be on this computer, or on the master backend? I ask, because I don't know if it even connected to the master. |
| [02:10:15] | wagnerrp: | the database server, where ever that may be |
| [02:16:15] | PatrickDickey: | Here's the show grants for mythtv: GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'mythtv'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `mythconverg`.* TO 'mythtv'@'localhost' How would I get it to allow from any host? |
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| [02:22:24] | wagnerrp: | give it an IP address or hostname other than "localhost" |
| [02:23:58] | PatrickDickey: | I was using "%" or '%'. Shouldn't that set it to all? Or will I have to specify two different grants (one for each frontend host)? |
| [02:24:11] | wagnerrp: | you can use % as a wildcard |
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| [02:25:05] | PatrickDickey: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg TO 'mythtv'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; should set it to allow for all then, right? |
| [02:25:43] | wagnerrp: | should |
| [02:44:35] | PatrickDickey: | One issue that I found is there's no bind address specified in the my.cnf file. Nor anywhere else, that I can see. So, I added one for the IPv4 and one for the IPv6 addresses. |
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| [03:00:33] | PatrickDickey: | Ok, now I'm getting closer. Before, it wouldn't go past the screen to pick the language. Now that I bound the mysql server to the interfaces in my.cnf, it gets to the page where I have to set up the database information. |
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| [03:17:48] | PatrickDickey: | here's my latest pastebin http://pastebin.com/pX9xeCTW |
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| [03:37:08] | k-man: | is there a good example using perlbindings I can look at? |
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| [03:42:55] | PatrickDickey: | One last question for a bit. When I run mythtv-setup, is it supposed to run as root, or as the current user? |
| [03:43:19] | wagnerrp: | as the user that runs mythbackend |
| [03:46:05] | k-man: | when you choose the delete option in the video library, does it delete the video itself from disk, or does it delete the database entry? |
| [03:47:38] | wagnerrp: | i'm not certain |
| [03:47:55] | [R]: | delete the file |
| [03:48:32] | PatrickDickey: | Ok, then something's wrong with my install. When I run mythtv-setup, it hangs when I try to close it. The config.xml file in /etc/mythtv only says "Will be filled in by mythtv-setup. |
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| [03:49:38] | wagnerrp: | usually anything in /etc/ is owned and writable only by root |
| [03:50:43] | ** PatrickDickey is starting to wish that mythdora was still active.... Mythbuntu took care of all of this for me. :S ** | |
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| [05:11:12] | PatrickDickey: | Well, that took forever. I found out that my problem was that I should have set my bind-address to 0.0.0.0 instead of 192.168.2.98 and IPv6. It was only binding to the IPv6 address. In earlier log entries, it was binding to 0.0.0.0, so I set it back there. |
| [05:11:39] | PatrickDickey: | Now, I just have to get the closed captioning to work (which was my original reason for moving to another computer). |
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| [05:27:14] | Blue1: | closed captioning works fo rme. |
| [05:28:41] | PatrickDickey: | I don't have a subtitles menu, nor does hitting "T" work. |
| [05:29:06] | PatrickDickey: | Are you running an analog or digital tuner? |
| [05:31:25] | Blue1: | digital — hdhomerun |
| [05:32:06] | Blue1: | in mythfrontend you can go to: setup/video/playback osd/ check: always display closed captions or subtitles |
| [05:32:54] | Blue1: | what tuner are you using? my issue with captioning, is that I cannot create a dvd from mythtv with captioning information. |
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| [05:35:00] | PatrickDickey: | I'm running an older analog Hauppauge HVR-1600. |
| [05:35:12] | wagnerrp: | (also digital) |
| [05:35:48] | Blue1: | I have no exp. with Hauppauge — sorry |
| [05:35:50] | PatrickDickey: | I've got everything checked for Closed Captions, and it still doesn't work. You're right. It's both analog and digital, but my cable provider only provides analog or encrypted digital. |
| [05:36:05] | wagnerrp: | attach an antenna |
| [05:36:07] | Blue1: | are you using comcat? |
| [05:36:12] | Blue1: | comcast? |
| [05:36:25] | PatrickDickey: | Nope. It's a local provider. They've got the monopoly on cable here. |
| [05:36:27] | Blue1: | I had problems with comcast — I went to over-the-air |
| [05:36:48] | wagnerrp: | usually everywhere is a monopoly |
| [05:36:54] | Blue1: | amen |
| [05:37:02] | Blue1: | try using an antenna |
| [05:37:31] | Blue1: | are you running wheezy or squeeze? |
| [05:37:57] | PatrickDickey: | For a frontend, Ubuntu 13.10 and 12.04 (soon to be 14.04), and backend is Fedora 19. |
| [05:37:59] | Blue1: | doh sorry this is the myth channel not #debian |
| [05:38:13] | Blue1: | that should work -- |
| [05:38:36] | Blue1: | what version of mythtv are you using? 26? |
| [05:38:54] | PatrickDickey: | Well the only problem with an antenna is, I'm about 30 miles from anything, and in an apartment. I'm running 0.27. |
| [05:39:10] | Blue1: | yeah I have the apt. blues -- |
| [05:39:53] | PatrickDickey: | I've tried antennas through converter boxes, and didn't get much. I haven't really tried through my tuners though. |
| [05:40:00] | Blue1: | i am running 26.1 fwiw |
| [05:40:35] | PatrickDickey: | Maybe they ripped the subtitles menu (and closed captioning) out in .27? :S |
| [05:40:37] | Blue1: | it's worth a try — if you only get 1 channel — you know its your cable provider not the tuner |
| [05:40:47] | Blue1: | dunno. |
| [05:41:00] | wagnerrp: | subtitles should operate the same as before |
| [05:41:02] | PatrickDickey: | Well I do get closed captioning on my tv that's not hooked to mythtv. |
| [05:41:17] | Blue1: | yes, captioning is function of the tv set |
| [05:41:40] | Blue1: | so if the tv set can't get the captions — then you might need to enable that on the tv |
| [05:42:05] | wagnerrp: | mythtv processes line21 captions on its own. it does not pass them onto the tv |
| [05:42:36] | Blue1: | oh I didn't know that. |
| [05:42:55] | Blue1: | but try it w/o the mythtv and see if the set gets captioning -- |
| [05:43:56] | PatrickDickey: | wagnerrp: Does that include if it's connected to a monitor--not a tv? |
| [05:44:26] | Blue1: | wagnerrp: do you know of a way to create a dvd with the captioning information? nothing I've tried seems to work – it display fine from a recorded source. |
| [05:44:45] | Blue1: | oh a monitor — won't display captions -- |
| [05:44:49] | wagnerrp: | don't know. never cared to do anything with closed captioning |
| [05:44:57] | Blue1: | i have my mythtv hooked up to my hdtv |
| [05:45:11] | Blue1: | I am hoh and depend on captioning. |
| [05:46:30] | Blue1: | I don't know how myth treats captioning – but generally a captioning decoder is needed – that's built into all 13 inch tv sets sold after 1994. |
| [05:46:42] | Blue1: | 13 inch and bigger |
| [05:48:17] | wagnerrp: | mythtv being able to handle it depends on whether the card exposes the information |
| [05:48:18] | wagnerrp: | many dont |
| [05:52:48] | PatrickDickey: | Hmmm... The one that I'm mainly trying to get it working on is a 32" HDTV. But I'm using a DVI to HDMI connector. That could explain a lot too. |
| [05:54:06] | wagnerrp: | neither DVI nor HDMI carry text data |
| [05:54:26] | wagnerrp: | if you're going to see it, mythtv needs to bake it into the image before it gets output by the video card |
| [05:54:49] | Blue1: | check to see the captioning is enabled on the set. |
| [05:57:42] | PatrickDickey: | Possibly a dumb question then. Does it work with S-Video? |
| [05:57:57] | wagnerrp: | s-video can do old line 21 analog |
| [05:58:02] | Blue1: | no |
| [05:58:12] | wagnerrp: | but i doubt you could successfully output that from a PC video card |
| [05:58:13] | Blue1: | no bearing |
| [05:58:48] | Blue1: | i have digital output from my card to hdmi on my tv -- |
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| [06:02:36] | PatrickDickey: | Well it's worth a shot. The computer that I'm running my frontend to the tv from has a S-Video out on the video card. Worse comes to worse, it doesn't work. |
| [06:03:41] | PatrickDickey: | It's stupid anyhow (my reason for wanting it. LOL) I'm taking an online class, and like to have the news on during the chat. But, I use a mic, so I have to keep the sound muted. Hense wanting closed captions. |
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| [06:06:18] | Blue1: | news captioning is delayed from the voice track about 10 seconds. |
| [06:06:36] | Blue1: | takes awhile to get used to. |
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| [07:00:35] | PatrickDickey: | Hmmm. It's looking like I may have to run a cable to the tv, and just use that when I'm in class. But, I am going to play around with getting the digital channels working also--just to see if I can get more. |
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| [07:33:49] | PatrickDickey: | Ok so now when I open Live TV on my old backend (now just a frontend), I get "Error opening jump program file buffer." |
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| [10:13:02] | Kelerion: | morning peeps |
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| [10:30:39] | Kelerion: | anyone know if it's possible to record streamed tv yet? especially via FilmON?and more importantly being integrated into the EPG? |
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| [13:15:18] | GlemSom: | Are their any way to have audio-profiles in MythTV? Like, if I want to change audio to a receiver instead on-the-fly? |
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| [14:05:16] | trumee: | I have my 5.1 speakers connected to my htpc. I was wondering if i can connect the speakers to the raspberry pi (with usb sound card) and ask mythtv to route sound to the raspberry pi. Is that possible? |
| [14:05:55] | trumee: | That way i dont have to use the htpc for just listening to music. |
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| [16:19:25] | tonsofpcs: | trumee: I just hide my HTPC in the basement and use a rpi running openelec for a frontend... not sure what you're asking for your situation |
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| [16:35:27] | trumee: | tonsofpcs: i have an antec fusion and rpi sitting next to each other and I want to share speakers between them. |
| [16:37:32] | wagnerrp: | Kelerion: you can record HLS streams |
| [16:37:36] | wagnerrp: | i don't know what filmon is |
| [16:38:27] | tonsofpcs: | trumee: this is what home theatre receivers are for... |
| [16:38:54] | wagnerrp: | specifically, higher end ones with multiple zones |
| [16:39:26] | wagnerrp: | wait... you said two different things |
| [16:39:34] | wagnerrp: | you want to route music from mythtv to the rpi |
| [16:39:41] | wagnerrp: | but you want mythtv and the rpi to use the same speakers? |
| [16:39:44] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't make sense |
| [16:39:50] | trumee: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [16:40:04] | wagnerrp: | why not just use mythtv directly? |
| [16:40:23] | wagnerrp: | if it's being output from the speakers mythtv uses, and controlled by mythtv... whats the point of the rpi? |
| [16:40:32] | trumee: | That way I can connect speakers to rpi. Rpi is always on while htpc is not |
| [16:40:46] | wagnerrp: | but you said the music was coming from mythtv |
| [16:40:58] | tonsofpcs: | is the htpc not the myth backend? |
| [16:41:24] | trumee: | Whenever I turn htpc/myth on it should use rpi/speakers |
| [16:41:31] | wagnerrp: | i thought he meant the frontend directly, since he's talking about having the frontend optionally run sound through the tpi |
| [16:41:39] | trumee: | Htpc is myth fe/be |
| [16:41:43] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: I'm terribly confused. |
| [16:42:02] | trumee: | wagnerrp: correct |
| [16:42:06] | tonsofpcs: | (who turns off their backend?) |
| [16:42:35] | trumee: | I want speakers on rpi. I want myth to use rpi speakers. |
| [16:42:51] | tonsofpcs: | you want to use the rpi as an audio device? |
| [16:43:03] | wagnerrp: | so anyway, why not just plug them both into an AV receiver? |
| [16:43:08] | trumee: | tonsofpcs: yes |
| [16:43:23] | tonsofpcs: | trumee: but you need a USB audio device then, why not just plug the USB device into the HTPC? |
| [16:43:26] | wagnerrp: | that's the explicit purpose of an AV receiver... basically a KVM switch for multimedia purposes |
| [16:43:30] | trumee: | Because i don't have an AV receiver |
| [16:43:43] | wagnerrp: | right. we're telling you that is the correct solution to what you want |
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| [16:44:06] | trumee: | wagnerrp: ok thanks |
| [16:44:43] | wagnerrp: | or... just ditch the RPI and leave mythtv on |
| [16:45:05] | trumee: | AV receivers are expensive. Is there any audio hardware switch available? |
| [16:45:56] | wagnerrp: | anything that's not a simple mechanical switchbox is going to be more expensive than a typical AV receiver |
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| [16:47:07] | tonsofpcs: | trumee: where is the amplifier for the speakers? |
| [16:47:46] | trumee: | It is a set of computer 5.1 speakers. |
| [16:48:16] | trumee: | Some logitech 5.1 |
| [16:52:27] | tonsofpcs: | you can build or buy a switch box, sure |
| [16:52:39] | tonsofpcs: | but a HT receiver is much more elegant |
| [16:52:44] | tonsofpcs: | and can power real speakers |
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| [16:55:15] | wagnerrp: | (or the existing 5.1 set) |
| [16:57:32] | tonsofpcs: | gah, I really need to replace this hdd... |
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| [18:12:45] | GlemSom: | Are their any way to have audio-profiles in MythTV? Like, if I want to change audio to a receiver instead on-the-fly? |
| [18:17:58] | wagnerrp: | closest you can do is have two separate profiles, and restart the frontend in the other profile |
| [18:18:09] | wagnerrp: | that is, machine profiles |
| [18:41:15] | GlemSom: | hmm ok. What if I manually edit the audio settings in the DB, is a restart required for it to take effect ? |
| [18:43:47] | wagnerrp: | if they're in the settings table, you can force a refresh of that information |
| [18:43:56] | wagnerrp: | but even then, you'll at least have to exit playback |
| [18:52:30] | GlemSom: | Ok, interresting... How do I force a refresh? |
| [18:53:46] | wagnerrp: | it's an option in mythutil |
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| [19:23:17] | Kelerion: | unless I missed something in trumee's question... I remember years ago running pulse (I think it was pulse) as an audio server on one pc and an audio client feeding from it on a second pc? haven't tried in years but things can't have changed that much |
| [19:23:31] | wagnerrp: | delays |
| [19:24:20] | wagnerrp: | running audio synced to video over pulse is troublesome, doing it on a remote pulse server really shouldn't be attempted |
| [19:24:44] | Kelerion: | makes sense... I just played mp3's so wasn't an issue...makes sense syned to video would be a problem |
| [19:27:00] | Kelerion: | wagnerrp: you mentioned HLS (thanks for the answer btw) but that is an quicktime based protocol right? |
| [19:27:38] | wagnerrp: | i know apple uses it. i don't know if it originally came from quicktime |
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