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| [02:20:18] | [R]: | wagnerrp: you there? |
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| [06:20:46] | koffel: | every time i use screen setup wizard makes screen look even worest then it did |
| [06:20:55] | koffel: | it shifts it |
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| [09:32:17] | stuarta: | koffel: then don't use it. it's only for very specific use case. |
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| [14:49:44] | MrShakeTouchpad: | morning guys |
| [14:50:03] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I've been in here asking before... but now I'm in a bad spot.... my existing myth frontend/backend machine kicked the bucket last night |
| [14:50:04] | MrShakeTouchpad: | no boot |
| [14:50:07] | MrShakeTouchpad: | so I need to replace it |
| [14:50:28] | MrShakeTouchpad: | lets say I have a $400 dollar budget or less... anyone have any suggestions for hardware? |
| [14:53:04] | devinheitmueller: | I would have to imagine whatever component went bad can probably be replaced for less than $400 (e..g CPU, motherboard, memory, power supply). No need to buy a whole new machine. |
| [14:53:27] | MrShakeTouchpad: | that doesn't really answer my question ;) |
| [14:53:38] | MrShakeTouchpad: | its an 8+ year old machine that has been slowly dying anyway |
| [14:53:42] | devinheitmueller: | Sure it does – figure out which part went bad and replace it. |
| [14:54:18] | devinheitmueller: | Or buy a $399 Dell if you really want to replace the whole system. |
| [14:54:19] | MrShakeTouchpad: | not trying to be ungrateful or rude...... but DUH... i have thought of that |
| [14:55:07] | devinheitmueller: | You say, “duh” but I cannot make the assumption that you had thought of that. Many people who come here are quite inexperienced and would not have. |
| [14:55:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and I get that |
| [14:56:14] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but the question I asked was for suggestions on hardware config for a new system |
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| [14:57:09] | devinheitmueller: | Depends on what you’re trying to accomplish? What type of tuners do you need? What are your signal sources? How many simultaneous channels do you want to record? |
| [14:58:06] | MrShakeTouchpad: | well... I've currently got an hdhomerun pulling OTA signal from an antenna |
| [14:58:18] | neufeld: | MrShakeTouchpad: new system? So, new capture devices? New hard drives? How many hours do you want to be able to store? ATSC tuners in North America run about 8 GB per hour, vs 4 GB per hour for HD-PVR recordings, and 2 GB per hour for standard-definition from a PVR-500. |
| [14:58:23] | MrShakeTouchpad: | during football season I add an hdhomerun prime pulling in from the local cable provider |
| [14:58:30] | MrShakeTouchpad: | so capture devices I don't need |
| [14:58:40] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but lets say everything else will be replaced |
| [14:59:04] | MrShakeTouchpad: | the hdhomerun is 2 tuners, when I add the prime that bumps it up to 5 |
| [14:59:07] | neufeld: | You've got no PCI/USB capture devices, only networked? |
| [14:59:12] | MrShakeTouchpad: | correct |
| [14:59:16] | MrShakeTouchpad: | only networked |
| [14:59:17] | devinheitmueller: | Ok, so you don’t need new tuners at all. Sounds though like you do need the ability to store and playback HD MPEG2 video. |
| [14:59:30] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yep |
| [14:59:52] | MrShakeTouchpad: | HDMI out of course |
| [15:00:00] | neufeld: | So your capture devices are not likely to be causing your boot problems. Do you have existing recordings? If it's a bad hard drive you could have lost your recordings or database. |
| [15:00:27] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea, lots of existing recordings |
| [15:00:36] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and I'm aware they may be gone, I'm hoping not |
| [15:00:51] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I'll go down that path when I get the box opened up (probably tonight) |
| [15:00:53] | neufeld: | Do you have separate OS and recordings hard drives? |
| [15:00:56] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I do |
| [15:01:07] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and the recording storage drive is much newer |
| [15:01:11] | MrShakeTouchpad: | so I have hope its all there |
| [15:01:47] | neufeld: | So you probably don't need a new recording drive. But your recording drive probably doesn't hold your database, which is important for retrieving the recordings in any sort of convenient manner. |
| [15:02:02] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea |
| [15:02:16] | MrShakeTouchpad: | though if I have to access them directly in the video section, its not a big deal |
| [15:02:18] | neufeld: | Do you have an add-on video card, or are you using an on-board video? |
| [15:02:23] | MrShakeTouchpad: | its just old recordings of disney shows for the little guy |
| [15:02:28] | MrShakeTouchpad: | its an add-on card |
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| [15:02:41] | MrShakeTouchpad: | on-board on that machine doesn't have hdmi out |
| [15:02:56] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but thats mildly irrelevant |
| [15:02:57] | neufeld: | OK, so sounds like you need a completely new system, except for tuners, video card, keyboard, and probably hard drives. |
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| [15:03:12] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I'd say new video card as well |
| [15:03:19] | MrShakeTouchpad: | the performance of the old one hasn't been stellar |
| [15:03:42] | neufeld: | OK, so go to newegg and pick up a motherboard/CPU combo on special, and a 2-year-old video card. Should come in well under your price target. |
| [15:04:11] | neufeld: | That's if the hard drive testing this evening doesn't reveal problems. |
| [15:04:37] | MrShakeTouchpad: | well.. yea |
| [15:04:43] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but anything more specific? |
| [15:04:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | minimums on processor, ram, video card, video memory, etc? |
| [15:05:24] | neufeld: | NVidia video card for hardware decoding. Then there's nothing you can buy in x86_64 these days that would be considered underpowered. |
| [15:06:21] | MrShakeTouchpad: | k |
| [15:06:25] | neufeld: | My front/back machine has a GeForce 210 card with HDMI output, and works just fine. |
| [15:06:27] | MrShakeTouchpad: | anything to avoid? |
| [15:07:24] | neufeld: | Depending on where it is, you might want to go for a low-noise system. I only buy fanless video cards. |
| [15:08:06] | neufeld: | Make sure you know which form factor your case accepts, don't want to get a mainboard that won't fit in the box. |
| [15:08:32] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I'll probably get a new case |
| [15:08:41] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and the machine is in a "server room" so noise isn't really an issue |
| [15:10:03] | neufeld: | So, you probably don't need optical playback drives, since you can't get to the machine quickly. You just need a case big enough to hold the video card, unless your mainboard has on-board NVidia and HDMI. |
| [15:10:32] | MrShakeTouchpad: | hrm..... newegg has an and fx4300 with 1tb hdd 4gram a Radeon 7770 and a case for 389 |
| [15:12:15] | neufeld: | I have no experience with AMD graphics. Make sure the case can hold all your hard drives (I've got 3 spinning metal drives in my MythTV box, plus an SSD for the OS) |
| [15:13:43] | MrShakeTouchpad: | thoughts on onboard video? |
| [15:14:24] | MrShakeTouchpad: | they've got an amd FM2_ with on chip radeon hd 7480 |
| [15:15:34] | neufeld: | Can't say. I've only got experience with NVidia chipsets, and I don't see any mainboards on newegg that have onboard NVidia, just AMD or Intel. I think I've heard people say AMD is less reliable for MythTV playback, but I can't say for certain. I don't remember hearing anything about Intel for hardware-accelerated playback. |
| [15:16:17] | MrShakeTouchpad: | Radeon is AMD? |
| [15:16:28] | neufeld: | Yes |
| [15:16:29] | MrShakeTouchpad: | aahh yea |
| [15:16:30] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ok |
| [15:16:36] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I agree on the nvidia side |
| [15:16:44] | MrShakeTouchpad: | been a linux user a long time.. nvidia FTW |
| [15:18:42] | neufeld: | So, you need a case big enough to hold your video card and your hard drives. Be careful, some video cards are extra-wide, and take up space as if they were two cards. |
| [15:19:15] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea |
| [15:20:46] | neufeld: | Watch the power supply, too. If you're buying a whole system for $389, make sure the inexpensive power supply you're receiving is sufficient for the add-on video card. |
| [15:20:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea |
| [15:21:20] | MrShakeTouchpad: | newegg's getting harder to navigate |
| [15:21:26] | MrShakeTouchpad: | no option to sort by price |
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| [15:30:18] | MrShakeTouchpad: | gt 610? |
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| [15:33:58] | neufeld: | Seems good. That's a rebranded GT 520, and I've got a GT 218 that works fine, which is 18 months older. |
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| [15:43:17] | MrShakeTouchpad: | awesome.. thanks for the help |
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| [16:30:01] | qu: | Anyone seen this? |
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