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| [00:22:47] | pvr4me: | Just tried the forum again and I'm still not getting a response from the server. |
| [00:25:34] | pvr4me: | Answers ping... |
| [00:25:40] | pvr4me: | $ ping -c 3 forum.mythtv.org |
| [00:25:40] | pvr4me: | PING forum.mythtv.squashedfrog.net (144.76.8.246): 56 data bytes |
| [00:25:40] | pvr4me: | 64 bytes from 144.76.8.246: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=118.114 ms |
| [00:25:40] | pvr4me: | 64 bytes from 144.76.8.246: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=113.157 ms |
| [00:25:41] | pvr4me: | 64 bytes from 144.76.8.246: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=112.842 ms |
| [00:25:41] | pvr4me: | --- forum.mythtv.squashedfrog.net ping statistics --- |
| [00:25:41] | pvr4me: | 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss |
| [00:25:42] | pvr4me: | round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 112.842/114.704/118.114/2.414 ms |
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| [00:40:18] | sphery: | pvr4me: forum.mythtv.org is working for me--is it working for you, now? |
| [00:41:42] | pvr4me: | sphery: in the last minute, I got into the forum, navigated to the post I wanted to reply to, brought up the reply window, pasted in my text, uploaded a picture... |
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| [00:42:16] | sphery: | qu: Are you using an old version of MythTV that still uses the tmdb.py (API version 2) grabber? You need to use a MythTV with tmdb3.py, IIRC. |
| [00:42:26] | pvr4me: | but when I hit submit, it chugged away for 60 seconds and said the server isn't responding. |
| [00:42:38] | sphery: | weird |
| [00:42:42] | sphery: | not sure what's up with it |
| [00:43:17] | pvr4me: | I'll try again in a few minutes but without the screen shot...maybe that's plugging up the works! |
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| [00:44:27] | pvr4me: | OK, text only message posted fine. |
| [00:46:30] | pvr4me: | Grrr...tried to start a new post in the same thread (to add the screen shot) and the server is no longer responding. |
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| [00:55:38] | Zenther: | Hello, I cannot seem to get my MythTV server to show up on my other machine running XBMC using UPnP. It worked a while ago at my parents house but not since I got back. Where should I start to look? |
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| [01:45:50] | Oleg_: | do any of you watch "Hannibal" on NBC? |
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| [02:16:44] | monkeypet: | i remember someone posted a script to detect idle and powerdown on the user mailing list, i can't seem to find it. |
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| [03:27:01] | Zenther: | hello, I have two computers running mythtv (1) server has all the movies and tv shows, (2) is like my client HTPC. Computer 2 shows the TV shows that were recorded but none of the movies stored on computer 1. |
| [03:27:48] | Zenther: | shouldn't it show also the movies I have stored there? Do I need to just mount that drive using SMB? |
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| [08:54:14] | ernstp: | trying to find out why I don't get any EPG! |
| [08:54:29] | ernstp: | EIT eitscanner.cpp:143 (run) EITScanner (6): Now looking for EIT data on multiplex of channel 11 |
| [08:54:37] | ernstp: | TVRecEvent eitscanner.cpp:205 (StartPassiveScan) EITScanner (6): Started passive scan. |
| [08:54:45] | ernstp: | but nothing shows up in the epg |
| [08:55:04] | ernstp: | I have scanned with mythtv full scan |
| [08:55:31] | ernstp: | DVB-T, Boxer network in Sweden |
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| [15:10:24] | pvr4me: | Am I the only one having problems posting to forum.mythtv.org?? In the last minute or two, I was able to bring up the board index and read some new posts. I went to post a simple reply and after 60 seconds of trying, I get the message "server isn't responding" |
| [15:21:11] | danepowell: | hi all |
| [15:21:55] | danepowell: | i've been using mythtv for a few months on Ubuntu 13.10, with XBMC as client. as of a few days ago, I can no longer watch live tv, i have no idea why. |
| [15:22:29] | danepowell: | i did rearrange some usb devices around that time, the usb tuner might have been moved to a different port |
| [15:22:32] | danepowell: | here's a log: http://pastebin.com/nCrPvUgq |
| [15:22:53] | danepowell: | showing what happens from the point i start mythtv-backend until i actually try to tune to a channel |
| [15:23:21] | danepowell: | the only odd thing i noticed is the message about the ringbuffer file being too small |
| [15:23:31] | danepowell: | can anyone help? |
| [15:25:33] | pvr4me: | danepowell: You're also getting a Critical error about a protocol version mismatch |
| [15:25:47] | danepowell: | pvr4me: thanks, i think that's actually normal with xbmc |
| [15:25:55] | danepowell: | it probes the backend to find what protocol to use |
| [15:26:20] | pvr4me: | Can you install myth on this machine and test with that? |
| [15:26:42] | danepowell: | mythfrontend? i guess so :) |
| [15:27:19] | danepowell: | let me see if i can install it quickly... |
| [15:27:42] | pvr4me: | It will help determine whether the problem is on the backend or frontend |
| [15:31:13] | danepowell: | with mythtv frontend, when i try to watch tv, i first get a message like "you should have received a channel lock by now", and then a black screen. after a minute, i get the error "error opening jump program file buffer" |
| [15:32:12] | danepowell: | interestingly, the mythbackend log is even MORE boring now :) |
| [15:32:14] | pvr4me: | So it looks like the tuner is the problem |
| [15:32:29] | danepowell: | okay... let me see if i can dig around in those settings... |
| [15:40:44] | danepowell: | omfg... it's working now... let me see if i can narrow down what actually fixed it... |
| [15:45:24] | danepowell: | okay, my best guess at this point is that when i moved the tuner to a different port, mythtv "forgot" some custom settings (the scanning and tuning timeouts). these have to be set very high (6000ms) on this card for some reason. once I reset those values, it started working again. |
| [15:45:43] | danepowell: | thanks for suggesting trying mythtv-frontend |
| [15:45:54] | pvr4me: | np |
| [15:47:06] | danepowell: | good night |
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| [21:08:42] | justinh: | evenin all |
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| [21:12:53] | justinh: | hahaha I'm a moderator now? I didn't get that email |
| [21:13:06] | justinh: | still, no posts to mod means very little work ;-) |
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| [21:40:08] | justinh: | gonna have to spoil my nice new house walls soon. No other way to get HDMI/networking/aerial wires around |
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| [21:51:57] | justinh: | anybody here ever use those passive HDMI baluns to put HDMI over 2x cat6 cables? |
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| [22:17:33] | newhoa: | If there is a better place to ask this, please let me know. I'm interested in capturing raw analog video (would like to do VHS conversion). Does anyone know of Linux-friendly cards that will do this? Would anyone happen to know if the Hauppauge PVR-150 can do this or will it force hardware mpeg encoding? |
| [22:20:59] | clever: | the pvr-150 has a framegrabber mode to just give you raw frames |
| [22:26:30] | justinh: | why not just grab mpeg2? |
| [22:27:21] | justinh: | just set the bitrate as high as it'll go.. for VHS it's way better than you'd ever need anyway |
| [22:27:39] | justinh: | it's utterly pointless to grab uncompressed frames from VHS tapes |
| [22:29:47] | justinh: | even if you're later going to convert it to something lossy, the difference between 15mbit mpeg2 & uncompressed video is going to be negligible, especially considering the source material |
| [22:30:02] | justinh: | crap in == crap out |
| [22:30:04] | newhoa: | justin: You're probably right. But if I do edits and stuff I would like to avoid re-encoding if possible. |
| [22:30:09] | newhoa: | Yeah, maybe. |
| [22:30:35] | justinh: | I capped all my old VHS using a borrowed DV camcorder, FWIW |
| [22:30:50] | justinh: | camcorders with video inputs FTW :-) |
| [22:31:46] | justinh: | newhoa: even considering editing.. the highest bitrate from the pvr card will be more than enough to cope with one conversion |
| [22:32:05] | justinh: | maybe output uncompressed video from the edit before encoding it |
| [22:32:08] | newhoa: | clever: Thanks, but I'm an idiot and need some clarification – does that mean it's possible with the PVR150? |
| [22:32:24] | justinh: | that tends to be quicker with most editing software I've used anyway |
| [22:32:33] | justinh: | newhoa: yeah it's possible |
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| [22:32:51] | newhoa: | Cool, thanks. |
| [22:33:10] | justinh: | the pvr card gives you a number of /dev/video devices. One of which is a framegrabber |
| [22:33:59] | justinh: | you might have issues recording audio through the card at the same time that way though |
| [22:36:28] | justinh: | I've not tried to capture uncompressed video since I could afford a decent system which is able to keep up ;-) |
| [22:37:00] | justinh: | oh and anyway, you shouldn't be considering to use mythtv for this job incase you were wondering |
| [22:38:44] | justinh: | ah the max bitrate of the pvr150 is only 12Mbit/sec. Heh. Been ages since I owned one |
| [22:39:37] | newhoa: | Well, I don't own one yet... just looking for a cheap but good solution and those were a good price on ebay. Have any better recommendations? |
| [22:40:03] | justinh: | if you really wanna capture uncompressed frames just buy (just about) ANY old TV tuner card |
| [22:40:24] | justinh: | I mean just about any with composite in – or s-video if you have S-VHS :) |
| [22:41:28] | justinh: | linux supports more 'dumb' analogue capture cards than you could shake a stick at.. mostly because they're based on one of 2 or 3 chipsets |
| [22:41:54] | justinh: | ok maybe not 2 or 3 but a smallish number compared to the number of different cards there've been |
| [22:42:40] | justinh: | and if you really want to do the very *best* capture you'd be better putting a timebase corrector between the capture device & the playback device |
| [22:43:24] | newhoa: | Yeah, that's the plan. |
| [22:44:01] | justinh: | though you'd likely find most TBCs you can afford use exactly the same video input chips |
| [22:44:45] | justinh: | i.e. a BT/CX/SAA chip |
| [22:46:14] | justinh: | FWIW the caps I've got from VHS went from DV – topped & tailed in a editor & turned into highish bitrate mpeg2... totally indistinguishable from the original tapes – add the fact the tapes are now another 15 years older... and erm... |
| [22:47:52] | justinh: | I'd expect you still only have to pay about $15 for a framegrabber card these days – if you can still buy em |
| [22:48:14] | newhoa: | Haha, yeah. Not sure that it's worth it. Maybe I'll just do the captures with the 150 and later if I can get the equipment for cheap try it again. |
| [22:48:56] | newhoa: | Honestly, I wish I could still use my ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro, haha. RIP AGP though. |
| [22:49:48] | justinh: | a TBC can correct bad line start/end timing a bit – but any modern video decoder IC should cope pretty well with tears too |
| [22:51:30] | justinh: | tears.. pulling of the picture horizontally |
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| [22:53:33] | justinh: | what I wanna know is, where the hell is the SiliconDust dual/quad tuner for DVB-T & T2 ? |
| [22:55:09] | justinh: | damn, wifey wants a TV in the kitchen when we 'go HD'... so I suppose that implies we need a HDMI splitter too |
| [22:55:24] | justinh: | send myth to the kitchen in tandem |
| [22:55:55] | justinh: | or put a Pi on the back of the teevee. I can live with the kitchen end being dog slow |
| [22:56:23] | justinh: | prolly cheaper than a splitter and another long HDMI cable |
| [22:56:40] | AndyCap: | most likely, and you can watch two different things |
| [22:56:49] | justinh: | this new house has fairly scuppered my original plan to get rid of the frontend fast |
| [22:57:26] | justinh: | the best wall to mount the tv on is drywall.. and that's gonna be too far away from the original backend location I'd planned |
| [22:58:01] | justinh: | so I think the server/frontend is gonna go in the utility room next door to the lounge – and put cable through the wall |
| [22:58:15] | justinh: | but to put the backend there I need to move the aerial cabling |
| [22:58:32] | justinh: | then there's the question of the AV amp.. where the hell does that go? |
| [22:58:47] | AndyCap: | in the dustbin? |
| [22:59:04] | justinh: | oh no. I brought it here, and the nice speakers.. and the sub |
| [22:59:19] | justinh: | we have a *detached* house now. I wanna take full advantage |
| [22:59:23] | AndyCap: | :) |
| [22:59:56] | justinh: | relatives have suggested using trunking.. or covering things with coving |
| [23:00:15] | justinh: | meh. Might aswell buy a set of cheap fishpoles & make small wall incisions eh |
| [23:00:41] | justinh: | 1 inch or so holes are easy to patch up |
| [23:00:46] | AndyCap: | my old amp ended up at my parents, and I am having a bad time with logitech harmony. not feeling very harmonious. |
| [23:01:04] | justinh: | my harmony went the way many have. the most used buttons wore out |
| [23:01:28] | justinh: | the new models all seem to use conductive rubber mats like real remotes now |
| [23:01:42] | AndyCap: | this is their new amazing stuff, with crappy limitations |
| [23:01:50] | justinh: | which *do* wear out eventually, but not after only one year of use |
| [23:02:28] | AndyCap: | the 525 here has held up, but the volume button is probably the first button that will die |
| [23:02:49] | justinh: | I can see where they were coming from & what they wanted to do – but by limiting functionality they're doing themselves a disservice |
| [23:03:13] | justinh: | what really pissed me off is the inability to have a real fast repeat rate |
| [23:03:26] | AndyCap: | doesn't sit right that my old 525 could have up to 15 devices, and now I have a maximum of 8 |
| [23:03:31] | justinh: | you could have DAD fast button presses |
| [23:03:57] | justinh: | same with the intra-button delays.. press another key too soon and umm... oh we lost the press |
| [23:04:28] | AndyCap: | haven't looked into repeats, but the smart hub seems snappy enough otherwise. |
| [23:04:46] | justinh: | what we need is a *tactile* screen based remote :P |
| [23:04:49] | AndyCap: | and I don't have to point the blasted thing in a direction that will cover all the devices. |
| [23:05:00] | justinh: | raised buttons with OLED screens under each button |
| [23:05:18] | AndyCap: | sounds like it would be priced like art lebedevs keyboard |
| [23:05:33] | justinh: | hahah yeah true |
| [23:06:12] | AndyCap: | maybe some sort of rubber membrane on top of an lcd or old screen, but that would give crap image quality |
| [23:06:18] | AndyCap: | oled.. |
| [23:08:52] | AndyCap: | went to the trouble of teaching it the discrete input codes, and the stupid firmware still faffs about with the source menu. :(. |
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| [23:12:07] | justinh: | <3 my PiR blaster.. just a pity it's only as tactile as a phone/tablet allows |
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| [23:13:02] | justinh: | ach well. late here & we have more company with us tomorrow.. so night all |
| [23:13:07] | AndyCap: | night |
| [23:13:38] | AndyCap: | see if I can find the will to file a bug with logitech |
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