MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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Wednesday, March 19th, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:38] runelind: after restarting the backend, it is now just creating empty files.
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[00:23:39] runelind: starting the recording via mythfrontend doesn't seem to make a diference either.
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[00:28:00] runelind: I get messages like http://pastie.org/8949100
[00:28:03] runelind: in mythfrontend
[00:28:09] runelind: I tried restarting mysql-server too.
[00:42:33] runelind: mythbackend.date log doesn't show anything at all
[00:42:51] runelind: when I click on a show and tell it to record in mythbackend, it never indicates that it is going to record the show.
[00:44:38] runelind: well interesting, I tried recording a different show that is not currently airing, and it seems to take that command just fine.
[00:44:46] runelind: I'll see if it actually records.
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[01:10:39] runelind: the other show seems to be recording fine...
[01:11:02] runelind: mythtv just hates hockey? :D
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[01:24:30] runelind: seems to be recording it fine now that I hit R in mythfrontend
[01:24:40] runelind: little concerning, but hopefully it is resolved.
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[01:27:09] monkeypet: do I need to do a make clean before a make when I pull from the repo, or will make know what to recompile?
[01:28:20] k-man: ooh, received my pulse8 today
[01:28:27] k-man: its very tiny
[01:31:56] runelind: sounds like a vibrator ;p
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[15:28:33] LedHed: is there a mechanism within Myth to relocate recordings? For example, say I want to record to a SSD, but after the recording is finished move it to another storage group?
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[15:40:16] tgm4883: LedHed, you could probably do that with a job
[15:41:13] LedHed: tgm4883, ya I was just hoping there was a simpler solution. I could always write my own transcode job with perl or something.
[15:41:39] tgm4883: well you wouldn't need a transcode job to just move the file
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[15:53:09] LedHed: agreed, I could just run it as a scheduled job and move recordings once a night
[15:53:41] LedHed: which is probably a better approach, that way I can schedule it for early morning when nothing is recording.
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[16:36:15] LedHed: looks like I can do what I want with Storage Groups and a simple filesystem move
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[16:58:10] sphery: LedHed: yes, there's no information in the database about where a recording file exists, so simply move the file (using system tools) to any directory in any Storage Group defined on any host... The only requirement is that the recording file /must/ be visible to the same host that recorded it (i.e. you can't move it from a master backend to a remote backend or vice versa)
[16:59:07] LedHed: sphery, very cool. I haven't had a need to mess with Storage Groups, but it seems like they'll do exactly what I want
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[17:00:17] sphery: yep
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[17:17:17] LedHed: looks like I just need to change the directory weight on the folders, and write a simple bash script to move the files
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[18:04:41] sphery: LedHed: No, really you shouldn't ever set the directory weight
[18:05:19] sphery: LedHed: Just make a Storage Group called Default that contains the SSD directory (and any other directories to which you want to write)
[18:05:34] LedHed: sphery, Well I want to force it to record to a SSD and then move the recordings to spindled media
[18:05:45] sphery: LedHed: Then make another Storage Group called Archive (or whatever) that contains the "do not write new recordings to, I'll move them there" directories
[18:06:18] sphery: LedHed: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/535888#535888
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[18:06:58] LedHed: ok, and if I do a filesystem move of the recordings to the Archive storage group will myth still find the recordings? I thought it would only work if I moved it within the same storage group
[18:07:17] sphery: No reason to add directories to your "writing" Storage Group if you don't want MythTV writing to them
[18:07:21] sphery: yes
[18:07:23] sphery: read the post
[18:07:47] LedHed: will do. thanks
[18:08:36] sphery: The Storage Group specified in the database only means "was originally written to some directory in this SG"... there's no information in the DB about where the file currently exists, but it will find it as long as it's visible by the recording host and in /any/ directory of /any/ SG defined on /any/ host
[18:09:15] LedHed: ok, very good. Thank you
[18:09:30] sphery: Since you can record a show, then shut down mythbackend, then change the directories in the SG to which it was written, there's no guarantee that (or need for) the recording is still in a directory in that SG
[18:10:03] sphery: the SG is just a way to tell MythTV, "when you write the new recording, put it in one of these dirs"
[18:10:20] sphery: so, really, it means very little after the recording is complete
[18:10:28] LedHed: I see
[18:10:50] LedHed: thank you for making that clear
[18:12:06] sphery: yeah, it can be confusing because people expect it to work like other programs where the user is forced to manage their own files, but MythTV is smart about it and will find the files and you just need to specify which directories it's allowed to use
[18:13:11] sphery: LedHed: see, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 6083#516083, which probably describes it more simply
[18:15:22] LedHed: sphery, perfect. Thats my exact scenario.
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[20:52:02] LedHed: are User Jobs scheduled to run after Com Flagging and Transcode jobs?
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[20:53:47] LedHed: It looks like I can run 'mv %FILE% /destination/dir' as my user job, but I don't want it to interfere with Com Flagging or Transcoding.
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[20:56:42] LedHed: The other problem is that I would rather move the files after all ComFlag & Transcoding is done, because I allow 4 jobs to run at once, which would allow 4 file moves at once. That would result in very fragmented data on the destination file system
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