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Thursday, March 6th, 2014, 00:04 UTC

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slyski:

mythweb broken with apache-2.4.7. Has anyone found a cure?

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Hydr0p0nX:

broken how?

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slyski:

updated to trusty tahr and got everything configured but the web page won't load. Just the apache test page.

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Hydr0p0nX:

try adding /mythweb ?

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slyski:

i did. same result

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Hydr0p0nX:

what's the logs say ?

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slyski:

forgot to tell you that i put all the stuff on xubuntu

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slyski:

logs have no errors. just loads the test page

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Hydr0p0nX:

set loglevel to debug and restart apache

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Hydr0p0nX:

you did install mythweb right ?

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slyski:

i just found the latest builds for mythbuntu on trusty-tahr. will try that in to see if they have the issue corrected.

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Hydr0p0nX:

other thing to take in account ...

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Hydr0p0nX:

there were a number of syntax changes in apache 2.4

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Hydr0p0nX:

might take a look at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html

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slyski:

i've googled the problem and there are other people having the same issue with 13.10 using apache 2.4

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Hydr0p0nX:

probably due to the syntax changes in the conf files

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slyski:

tried some configuring already but started to get over my head. didn't want to keep going so to break more stuff. i got as far as getting the test page not loading :/

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Hydr0p0nX:

what version of myth are you using ?

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slyski:

.27

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Hydr0p0nX:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/555866

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Hydr0p0nX:

take a look at that

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Hydr0p0nX:

also, try setting loglevel to debug

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slyski:

i'm going to try the new daily build of mythbuntu 14.04 to see if the devs got the configs figured out

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Hydr0p0nX:

i'm on 12.04.4 and working fine

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Hydr0p0nX:

few random crashes that don't impact watching or recording tv

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slyski:

yes, i read that list already and did the -A delete and apache started but still didn't load mythweb

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Hilikus:

if i configure mythtv to go to the last live channel when i go into live tv, where is the channel number stored?

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[R]:

in the database

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Hilikus:

that's what i thought. any idea where?

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[R]:

cardinput possibly

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Hilikus:

mmm no. there "startchan" has 2, but the starting channel i get is 606

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[R]:

thats the chanid

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[R]:

not the channel number

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[R]:

oh no... its the channel number

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[R]:

well... maybe its the chanid, im not sure

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[R]:

do you have a chanid of 2?

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Hilikus:

yes, i checked. it's not the chanid

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Hilikus:

no

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[R]:

and you checked all the inputs?

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Hilikus:

i only have 1

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[R]:

hrm

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[R]:

maybe inuseprograms?

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Hilikus:

that's empty on my side

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[R]:

should have been the cardinput

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Hilikus:

i think that's for when you have a fixed start channel. but my setting is to use the last use used

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Hilikus:

last one* used

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[R]:

well you could search the code for waht it does with that setting

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Hilikus:

uff. i wouldn't know where to start. i've never seen the source code. any pointers?

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[R]:

grep

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Hilikus:

grep for what??

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[R]:

i dunno

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[R]:

the setting

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Hilikus:

that's not gonna work. i have no idea where to start. thank you [R]

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Flain:

Quick question, if I'm on .25 should I upgrade to .27?

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[R]:

of course

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Flain:

I have a single channel that the recordings always stutter no matter what device I play them back on do you think .27 will fix that?

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[R]:

what type of tuner/capture device do you have?

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Flain:

pctv hd-5500

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[R]:

well its just going to dump whatever the card is outputting

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Flain:

yeah I've had that card for 7 years so it may be time to upgrade, any suggestions?

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[R]:

what makes you think there is antying wrong with it?

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Flain:

Other than the issue with the one channel there's nothing wrong with it so if it just dumps the input then it's either the input or the card

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Hilikus:

so the startchan setting doesn't seem to have any effect

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Flain:

I've never used startchan, google here I come

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devinheitmueller:

Anybody interested in buying some spare used HDPVR 1212s to put on a shelf until you need them?

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Kwisher_wrk:

those are dual ATSC, correct?

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devinheitmueller:

No, the HD-PVR is the HD component capture device.

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devinheitmueller:

http://hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

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Kwisher_wrk:

so you cannot connect an antennae to it?

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devinheitmueller:

No, it's for capturing HD component out of a satellite receiver or cable box.

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devinheitmueller:

It doesn't have a tuner.

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Kwisher_wrk:

darn

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runelind:

what's the recommended way of running mythfilldatabase against SD? Crontab each night or something like that?

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wagnerrp:

let mythbackend do it automatically

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runelind:

mythbackend doesn't seem to do it automatically :-/

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wagnerrp:

did you disable that functionality? it should do it by default

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runelind:

I logged into mythweb this morning and didn't have any listings. They only showed up after I manually ran mythfilldatabase

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runelind:

I did not disable it as far as I know ;p

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wagnerrp:

then check your logs and see if it is failing for some reasons

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runelind:

wagnerrp: it seems sort of unhappy http://pastie.org/private/n1pdalywz6k32ajd4osgq

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wagnerrp:

this is when run automatically?

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runelind:

yeah

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runelind:

when I run it manually it seems to work just fine.

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runelind:

backend is running on FreeBSD 10

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wagnerrp:

i don't see anything out of the ordinary

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wagnerrp:

other than you should be running --dd-grab-all

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wagnerrp:

rather than pulling individual days

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runelind:

I don't recall making any changes to the default settings

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runelind:

where would those settings be stored?

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wagnerrp:

in mythtv-setup, general, there will be field to set additional arguments to be passed to mythfilldatabase

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runelind:

found it

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sphery:

runelind: it really takes 1 1/2 hrs to run?

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sphery:

if so, your system is likely way to slow to handle --dd-grab-all

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sphery:

See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 49416#449416 for details about --dd-grab-all .

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wagnerrp:

s/--dd-grab-all/mythtv/

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sphery:

(if it's 90-minutes without dd-grab-all, it's likely unworkable with)

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sphery:

and, yeah, that may be a more accurate description :)

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sphery:

or you may have some serious mysql misconfiguration slowing things down a lot (in which case the system--when configured to allow required performance--may be usable for mythtv and possibly even mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all)

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sphery:

wagnerrp: did you, by any chance, see the discussion of changes to delete_recordings.py

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wagnerrp:

were they in here, or the mailing list?

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sphery:

here

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wagnerrp:

nope

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sphery:

http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2014-03-04:15:52

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sphery:

looking for the problematic part, but that gives a description of the changes

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sphery:

the problem is at 17:42

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sphery:

seems that using Python bindings to call delete() on a recording results in the backend deleting from the DB even if the file doesn't exist?

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wagnerrp:

that is the intended behavior

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wagnerrp:

oh, delete_recordings... not find_orphans...

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sphery:

doesn't it require force for that?

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sphery:

right

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sphery:

yeah, the idea is to separate out the non-interactive mode and the forced backend delete when file is missing

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sphery:

so that the script can be safely used as a delete mechanism in, for example, quick user bash scripts with, for example, delete_recordings.py --non-interactive --basename=1234_201403052000.mpg

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sphery:

hehe, 2x for example...

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sphery:

I haven't tested it, yet, but thought you might know whether it's by design or user/script error or ...

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wagnerrp:

ugh... lousy modem keeps dropping DNS traffic

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wagnerrp:

since i can't pull up cgit, the answer is no

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wagnerrp:

the default behavior of both Program.delete() and Recorded.delete() is to not force a delete

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sphery:

yeah, that's what I had assured moparisthebest before he separated them out...

[17:08:23]

sphery:

so likely it's either a small problem in the script changes or testing procedure or something

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moparisthebest:

http://sprunge.us/BKHa?python

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moparisthebest:

that's the "new" script btw, really superficial changes, just introducing 2 new booleans

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moparisthebest:

and changing the definition of 'force'

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wagnerrp:

why did i manually parse out the command line rather than let python do it?

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moparisthebest:

so it didn't work as you expected sphery?

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sphery:

moparisthebest: is it still giving the same behavior you noticed before, deleting even if file is missing when used without force?

[17:10:27]

moparisthebest:

I think it did yes

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moparisthebest:

are there any docs for Recording.delete() I only found them for Program.delete()

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moparisthebest:

or better yet, is the source code in a repo anywhere? :P

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sphery:

source code is in the repo

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wagnerrp:

https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/myth . . . heap.py#n355

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wagnerrp:

https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/myth . . . roto.py#n950

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wagnerrp:

https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/myth . . . roto.py#n646

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wagnerrp:

that force flag just gets passed right down the chain

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wagnerrp:

and defaults to false

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moparisthebest:

my python's rusty, but rec.delete(force=force, rerecord=rerecord) would be the way to pass in my own force and rerecord variables right?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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moparisthebest:

because with my force being false, it still went ahead and deleted a recording even though the file wasn't there

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sphery:

looks weird with "force=force"... strange snake speak--hard to tell what's a variable

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moparisthebest:

maybe I'll record something I don't want just so I have something to try this on

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moparisthebest:

agreed sphery :)

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sphery:

and not very c-like--with = not == :)

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moparisthebest:

oh sorry brb in about an hour

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wagnerrp:

force= is the input argument, =force is the variable being fed to the argument

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sphery:

guess it makes sense

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sphery:

same name makes it more confusing, too

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sphery:

anyway, thanks for looking wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

rather than C where you are required to define all arguments to the left of the last one with a default you want to supply

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wagnerrp:

python lets you name the arguments you want to supply, and skip any others with defaults

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sphery:

maybe I'll be able to test it out some one of these days

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wagnerrp:

oh, this takes arbitrary arguments

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wagnerrp:

that's why i couldn't use a canned argument parser

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wagnerrp:

now i remember

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sphery:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

don't lie. you know it takes you a while to remember why you wrote years old code as you did

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dashs:

New 26.1 setup here does not see alsa for audio, only oss. How can I get it to recognize alsa. Debian 7 — probably due to removing pulseaudio from the system.

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dashs:

I do get alsa sound from vlc, mpg123 etc.

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Tobbe5178:

dashs: perhaps it was compiled without alsa?

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Tobbe5178:

or there is some missing libraries

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dashs:

Tobbe5178: perhaps — need to check more

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dashs:

Tobbe5178: this AMD64 sys, previous was i386 — same package list (64 bit plus some :386 variants)

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dashs:

Thought someone would know the criteria for modes being entered in the 'rescan' audio list.

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esperegu:

anyone experience with unicable / scr / DIN EN 50494 ?

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