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Current users (133):

aarcane, adante, aloril_, amessina, amizraa, AndyCap, Azelphur, benc_, Bhaal, biffhero, blassey, blinky42, BLZbubba_, brfransen, buu, caelor, Captain_Murdoch, ChanServ, clever, Cougar, croccydile, ctmjr, Cubber, cybrNaut, dahlSTROM, Dave123_, devinheitmuell-1, disputin, dkeith__, felipe`, fetzerch, Floppe, G, ghoti, Gibby, gregL, GreyFoxx, grumpytravel, Guest32948, Heliwr, Hoochster, Hydr0p0nX, ikevin, imhouse, infinite, infojunky, J-e-f-f-A, jafa2, jams_, jarle, jarryd, Jay2k1, jbrett, jduggan, Jinx, jm|laptop, jnylen, johanbr, johnsu01, jpabq_, jst, justdave, justinh, jya, Korny_, kurre2, kwmonroe, laga, lapion, lotia, materdaddy, mengoshmink, Metoer, MilkBoy, MissionCritical, Moscherkobold, Muzer, MythLogBot, mzb, nameless`, nephyrin, neufeld, NightMonkey, nikgod, niska, nyloc, pigeon_, psycodad, purserj, quicksilver, RagingComputer, RagingMind, rhollan, rhollan_, rhpot1991, robink, rsiebert, Scopeuk, seld_, ServerSage, Shadow__X, Sharky112065, shubes, sid3windr, simcop2387, skd5aner, sl1ce_1g, SmallR2002, sphery, squidly, sraue, StevenR_, sulx, superm1_, tgm4883_, tonsofpcs, toorima, tris, troyt, trumee, ubIx_, unforgiven512, wagnerrp, wahrhaft, Warped, wseltzer, XDS2010, xris, zoktar, zombor, [mrx], _abbenormal, _charly_
Wednesday, February 19th, 2014, 00:07 UTC
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[01:26:21] Korny_: I love tinkering so I loaded one of my spare frontends with a alpha version of OpenELEC, they've made a lot of progress with the mythtv PVR plugin, its much more usable, also the bug that showed old recordings still being recorded is fixed(not sure if thats a mythtv or xbmc fix). Still prefere mythtv frontend for PVR function
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[06:42:08] wagnerrp_: i've been dicking around with this thing for an hour and a half
[06:42:22] wagnerrp_: turns out when i mouted the board, i had two extra standoffs underneath
[06:42:27] wagnerrp_: and one of them was shorting something
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[15:43:41] rhollan_: anyone can help with mythtv/lirc ? does not see remote but irw does
[15:44:14] rhollan_: socket set to the new /var/run/lirc/lircd and still not working
[15:44:29] rhollan_: mythfrontend logs say the lirc config was applied properly
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[15:44:51] rhollan_: mythfrontend
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[16:07:40] ctmjr: do you have a lircrc file in .mythtv
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[17:50:42] rhollan: Hay, can anyone help with lirc issues? irw works like a champ reportinng MCE remote key presses, and mythfrontend registers its lircrc, but only one keypress does anything: Guide pulls up the Standby confirmation popup.
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[17:50:56] rhollan: I think something is getting a lircrc from the wrong place.
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[18:06:21] rhollan: any lirc experts here?
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[18:19:25] buu: I wish =[
[18:19:30] buu: I can't even get it to read my remote
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[18:35:46] rhollan: buu: what kernel/os are you using
[18:35:52] rhollan: have you tried irw?
[18:36:14] wagnerrp: or mode2
[18:37:21] rhollan: wagnerrp: I found deleting INDIVIDUAL tuners causes nothing but grief
[18:37:30] rhollan: even if you delete all after
[18:37:45] wagnerrp: deleting all should wipe everything clean
[18:37:59] wagnerrp: and deleting individual should only cause limited issues with ordering
[18:38:12] rhollan: well, it didn't: I still saw phantom tuners in the web-based report
[18:38:23] rhollan: I had to completely reinstall to get that third tuner to show up
[18:38:36] rhollan: but now it works great
[18:38:58] rhollan: did a test record of 3 1080i programs while viewing one of them, and nary a blip on the CPU perf
[18:39:10] rhollan: of course, no transcoding.
[18:39:34] wagnerrp: yeah, not on an atom
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[18:40:14] rhollan: now having lirc woes
[18:40:42] rhollan: irw works great, but myth won't see anything except one Guide button on the MCE remote mapped to the "Standby dialog"
[18:43:21] rhollan: I've yet to try the mythbuntu-lirc-generator to try to make a sane .lircrc, though I think mine is fine.
[18:44:00] tgm4883_: rhollan, possibly disable the in kernel remote support?
[18:44:13] tgm4883_: or use that instead or lirc
[18:44:23] wagnerrp: it's all in-kernel... you mean in-X?
[18:44:36] tgm4883_: wagnerrp, probably
[18:44:37] rhollan: er, I think I am using that with ubuntu 13.10: I didn't have to build the kernel driver, just install lircd
[18:44:57] tgm4883_: wagnerrp, using ir-keytable instead of irw and such?
[18:45:38] tgm4883_: I haven't used lirc in awhile
[18:46:17] wagnerrp: i know X will grab them through the event interface
[18:46:27] wagnerrp: i'm not sure if ir-keytable controls the mapping for that
[18:46:34] rhollan: Oh, not use lircd, and map them to keystrokes instead of lircd remote events?
[18:46:38] tgm4883_: wagnerrp, yea I believe it does
[18:46:58] tgm4883_: rhollan, yea, that is what I did in the past when I used IR remotes
[18:47:01] rhollan: irw shows lircd is picking them just fine.
[18:47:30] rhollan: so, map to keystrokes and let X focus figure out what app to send it to?
[18:47:42] rhollan: That might be a problem if various apps use different mappings, no?
[18:48:20] tgm4883_: yea, although I only used a single app (mythtv)
[18:48:45] rhollan: me too so far, but might add some myth plugins later. Might want to use xbmc as a FE as welll
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[18:49:17] tgm4883_: well I'd include mythtv plugins in that, since it's still in the frontend
[18:49:22] rhollan: Is the X remote to key mapper app-aware? Can it map based on what has focus?
[18:49:42] rhollan: do all the plugins share the same mappings?
[18:49:44] tgm4883_: not sure, I don't think so
[18:50:19] rhollan: but if irw sees the presses, you'd think mythtv would too.
[18:50:24] tgm4883_: yea
[18:50:27] rhollan: unless X is "stealing" them
[18:51:09] wagnerrp: i am 29 of 9 on the upgrade list... i don't think i'm going to make the cut
[18:51:27] tgm4883_: wagnerrp, thats not good, I think
[18:51:55] rhollan: where can I find docs about X's awareness of remotes, then?
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[18:55:10] wagnerrp: i really should have started this upgrade before 9PM last night
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[18:55:35] wagnerrp: it was 2AM before i even got the thing to boot (shorting on an improperly located standoff)
[18:56:57] rhollan: what are you upgrading?
[18:57:38] wagnerrp: backend/fileserver
[18:58:11] rhollan: I meant what aspect? CPU/RAM/OS/Drives?
[18:58:18] wagnerrp: yes
[18:58:27] rhollan: the whole box?
[18:58:43] wagnerrp: keeping most of the drives. replacing the OS mirror
[18:58:46] rhollan: so a mobo upgrade
[18:59:03] wagnerrp: mobo, cpus, ram, psu, boot drives
[19:00:08] rhollan: I figured mobo would include cpu and ram
[19:00:17] wagnerrp: s
[19:00:22] rhollan: what are you going from/to? If I may ask
[19:00:36] ** rhollan drools at the prospect of i7–4770Ts for myth **
[19:01:45] wagnerrp: 3.3GHz dual core phenom 2 to 2x 3.1GHz triple module opteron
[19:02:28] rhollan: Funny: I left AMD for Intel recently. Have a couple of Phenom 2 mobms lying around
[19:04:17] wagnerrp: multi-socket AMD gear is much cheaper
[19:05:04] rhollan: I suppose.
[19:05:33] rhollan: I'm just starting to get turned on by the prospect of low power i7–4770Ts
[19:05:58] rhollan: But at $300 a pop, they ain't cheap.
[19:06:21] wagnerrp: and are really just binned and underclocked 4770s
[19:06:40] wagnerrp: of course a 4770 itself is the same price
[19:06:46] rhollan: sure, but I was looking at the 35W TDP on them
[19:06:55] wagnerrp: looks like 45
[19:07:22] wagnerrp: but, i'm more interested in ecc support
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[19:07:48] rhollan: Huh. You're right 45W
[19:07:53] wagnerrp: intel doesn't do ecc in most of their consumer CPUs
[19:08:18] rhollan: I suppose that matters in a main file server, yes.
[19:08:22] wagnerrp: and they don't do registered memory outside their server CPUs
[19:08:29] wagnerrp: so you're limited in capacity
[19:08:31] rhollan: I was thinking of the most powerful fanless FE/BE I could make
[19:09:01] rhollan: there are some nice heatpipe cases, but they are spendy
[19:10:37] rhollan: http://www.hd-plex.com/hdplex-h5.todd-fanless-computer-case.html
[19:11:35] wagnerrp: i have this sitting on the back side of my desk, waiting for the file server to get migrated so it has something to boot from... http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishD . . . ber=29752107
[19:11:36] rhollan: supports 75W TDP fanless
[19:11:50] wagnerrp: no fan besides the CPU fan
[19:12:14] wagnerrp: and it's only audible when it first powers on, before the PWM controller starts throttling it
[19:14:01] rhollan: nice case. what do you use it for
[19:14:49] wagnerrp: frontend
[19:15:31] rhollan: I figured, but with Intel *cough* graphics *cough* ?
[19:15:58] wagnerrp: plenty of cpu for software decoding, plenty of gpu for opengl rendering
[19:16:19] rhollan: yeah, but HD4400?
[19:16:36] wagnerrp: works fine
[19:16:56] rhollan: huh. I've been staying away from Intel graphics
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[19:20:17] wagnerrp: technically, i haven't run the frontend on it, but the GPU on the G2120 on my previous newest frontend worked fine
[19:22:52] rhollan: I vaguely remember a frame rate issue wit Intel HD graphics, but can't manage to google for it now
[19:28:03] rhollan: Clarksdale and Sandy Bridge have the 24fps bug
[19:28:13] rhollan: won't render 23.976 Hz.
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[19:48:42] rhollan: Ah! Apparently Haswell HD4600 graphics fix the 24fps bug: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7007/intels-has . . . erspective/4
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[19:49:29] rhollan: Clarksdale and Sandy Bridge rendered 23.976fps as 24fps, Ivy Bridge improved things to 23.972fps, and Haswell finally gets it right/
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[20:09:43] AndyCap: heh, not too shabby.
[20:11:01] AndyCap: I think Aaron Brezenski at intel posted about it a long time ago. around G45
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[20:30:59] rhollan: About what? HD Graphics frame rates?
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[23:03:32] AndyCap: rhollan: yeah, http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2008/05 . . . -theater-pcs
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[23:17:40] skd5aner: jya: ping – you happen to be around?
[23:22:54] jya: i am
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[23:36:07] skd5aner: jya: sorry, got pre-occupied with family duties :)
[23:36:28] skd5aner: jya: was reading the backlog, good job on tracking down the read/write buffer issues
[23:37:55] skd5aner: jya: I'm seeing a specific bug in livetv, and since I know you and yourfamiliy uses it so much,was curious if you've stumbled across it too...
[23:38:31] jya: which is?
[23:39:05] skd5aner: if I turn on live tv, and let it continue to run across program boundaries and in to a second recording... if I try to skip back while in the new program, it goes back to the START of that program
[23:39:14] skd5aner: instead of jumping 5 secconds back
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[23:39:54] skd5aner: as if it doesn't understand the current position to jump from, so it just goes back to the start of whatever program happens to be on at that particular time
[23:40:18] jya: skd5aner: I've lodged a bug for that a while back...
[23:40:38] skd5aner: jya: ok... didn't want to submit dupe and hadn't searched trac yet either
[23:40:44] jya: though this only happens if I press pause for a long time, the current liveTV continues to another program.
[23:40:57] jya: the following rewind usually jumps to the next program
[23:41:13] jya: having said that, on my current local test; it hasn't happened yet
[23:41:15] skd5aner: yea, I haven't done much digging in to it... not have I tried to replicate it, but it's sometihng I commonly stumble across when LiveTV is running all day
[23:41:21] jya: not with the ring buffer changer
[23:41:41] skd5aner: I just know, it's always after one or more program breaks – never an issue in the "first" show that's watched in live tv
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[23:50:25] jya: ok... going to watch more commercial ad channels then, they have new programs every 15 minutes.. easier to test
[23:50:40] jya: right now watching the olympic, it's like a new program after 5 hours
[23:51:11] jya: the Aussie TV presenter, is the hottest girl I've seen on TV in a very long time
[23:52:18] skd5aner: jya: lol... you could always share pictures
[23:53:00] jya: always hard to do a screen capture of live TV and not having a weird face
[23:53:07] jya: she has the greenest eyes
[23:53:53] skd5aner: whats her name?
[23:54:41] jya: http://i57.tinypic.com/35bwhu1.png
[23:54:44] jya: no idea :)
[23:55:21] skd5aner: probably took afew hours to get those curls just right
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[23:56:50] jya: photo doesn't give her justice tbh
[23:58:15] jya: ah here it is: Mel McLaughlin
[23:58:30] skd5aner: that name has to be a total stage name
[23:59:13] jya: pretty rare for sport presenter to have stage name

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