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| [02:40:29] | rhollan: | can anyone help with hdhome run problems? |
| [02:43:29] | wseltzer: | what problems? |
| [02:44:31] | rhollan: | DTVMux: ParseTuningParams — Unknown tuner type = 0x2000 |
| [02:44:34] | rhollan: | and others |
| [02:44:49] | rhollan: | I made sure program multiples was set to 1 (max recordings) for each tuner |
| [02:44:54] | rhollan: | still no love |
| [02:47:30] | wseltzer: | not something I've seen, sorry |
| [02:48:16] | rhollan: | it may be that I don't have a valid starting channel. But I have no idea what that should be |
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| [03:09:23] | rhollan: | yeah, that was it: starting channel. But now I have to figure out why it's all SD |
| [03:11:43] | ctmjr: | maybe your cable provider encrypts the hd channels |
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| [15:41:16] | rhollan: | woot! Got my ZBOX ID-41 working with my HDHomerun tuner! Also VDPAU playback of H.264 and MPEG2 1080p |
| [15:52:58] | rhollan: | 2 GB RAM and a 64 GB system flash drive. 3T external Lacie disk for media |
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| [17:47:55] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: just wanted to let you know all artwork as been coming in just fine since nulling out the field in the DB. As an FYI, it's also pre-emtpively pulling it for new recordings |
| [17:47:59] | skd5aner: | thanks! |
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| [17:54:15] | rhollan: | Is it safe to kill mythfilldatabase or will I have a corrupt listings database? |
| [17:54:46] | skd5aner: | both |
| [17:54:55] | skd5aner: | it is safe to kill it, but you will likely have correct listings |
| [17:55:05] | skd5aner: | but you can safetly run it again to get them fixed |
| [17:55:42] | skd5aner: | rhollan: has is the ID41 performing when you are in the "Watch Recordings" screen? |
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| [17:57:13] | rhollan: | it works fairly well. |
| [17:57:37] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: just wanted to let you know all artwork as been coming in just fine since nulling out the field in the DB. As an FYI, it's also pre-emtpively pulling it for new recordings – thanks! |
| [17:57:50] | rhollan: | I first made sure that VDPAU playback of 1080p MP4 and MPEG2 material worked with mplayer (latest nvidia drivers). Then installed myth front and back ends |
| [17:58:05] | rhollan: | using a Silicon Dust HDHomerun prime tuner |
| [17:58:07] | skd5aner: | yea, I have an ID80, an playback is great... |
| [17:58:15] | skd5aner: | but the watch recordings screen is very slow to respond |
| [17:58:31] | wagnerrp_: | i saw. good to know |
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| [17:58:54] | rhollan: | Sometimes I see "wait" animated graphics over some recoirding snapshots. Is that what you mean? |
| [17:59:12] | skd5aner: | cool, saw you flapping on and offline, and didn't know you had timedout when I sent it the first time :) |
| [17:59:44] | skd5aner: | rhollan: no, if I navigate up an down my recordings list, it takes about a second for the focus to go to the next recording |
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| [17:59:47] | skd5aner: | delayed response |
| [18:00:07] | rhollan: | I've only got 2 GB ram in the box, but installed a Kingston 64GB flash drive for a system drive. |
| [18:00:21] | rhollan: | Let me make a few recordings and see how snappy the UI is. |
| [18:00:22] | skd5aner: | I've got 4GB and an 64GB SSD |
| [18:00:27] | rhollan: | Just refreshed my tuners. |
| [18:00:32] | skd5aner: | but, I have a TON of recordings |
| [18:01:00] | rhollan: | I've been looking at getting another 2 GB: top shows down to about 180MB free when recording from all three tuners |
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| [18:01:08] | skd5aner: | but, it's very responsive on my other frontend (non-zbox) |
| [18:02:01] | ** wagnerrp_ pokes wagnerrp ** | |
| [18:02:04] | wagnerrp_: | it's still there |
| [18:02:30] | rhollan: | yeah, I'm having a bit of trouble trying to get a remote frontend working when the main front/backend on th ID41 is viewing TV: the last one freezes. Of course, the tuner, master front/backend, and remote frontend are on the same LAN segment, so that might be it. Or the ID41 is just being taxed too much |
| [18:03:06] | wagnerrp_: | rhollan: could you post the Mem: and Swap: lines from top? |
| [18:03:49] | wagnerrp_: | are you sure you're actually using all but 180MB, and you're not just seeing memory being consumed by disk cache? |
| [18:03:50] | rhollan: | let me get something playing/recording first. As for swap, I disabled it: don't want to swap to flash. But, that is why I really think I should get another 2 GB. |
| [18:04:01] | rhollan: | maybe |
| [18:04:47] | rhollan: | just changed input connections (wasn't clear that three tuners could share one source, so I first had the same source three times, which I see is not necessary (and mythfilldatabase was taking forever to do it three times)). |
| [18:04:53] | wagnerrp_: | each recording should only take around 11MB of static ringbuffer, and another couple MB of write buffer |
| [18:05:18] | wagnerrp_: | probably somewhere around 20MB-30MB total when you include all the various storage in other buffers and objects |
| [18:05:20] | rhollan: | as soon as mythfilldatabase finishes, I'll try, and get you top mem results |
| [18:05:39] | wagnerrp_: | just post what you're seeing now |
| [18:05:57] | wagnerrp_: | pasting those two lines in here is fine |
| [18:06:12] | rhollan: | O.K. but the frontend isn't even running now. |
| [18:06:47] | rhollan: | KiB Mem: 2063008 total, 1372796 used, 690212 free, 64140 buffers |
| [18:06:59] | rhollan: | KiB Swap: 0 total, 0 used, 0 free, 845368 cached |
| [18:07:38] | rhollan: | I can do that again once I restart mythfrontend |
| [18:07:43] | wagnerrp_: | that 845368 cached value, that's the disk cache |
| [18:07:47] | rhollan: | waiting for mythfilldatabase |
| [18:07:50] | wagnerrp_: | you're really only using around 500MB of memory currently |
| [18:08:05] | rhollan: | sure, but frontend is not running. |
| [18:08:21] | wagnerrp_: | i realize that |
| [18:08:26] | rhollan: | Oh. I see: used-cache |
| [18:08:49] | wagnerrp_: | right |
| [18:09:06] | wagnerrp_: | disk cache is a good thing, but for most purposes, you can consider it as unused memory |
| [18:09:35] | wagnerrp_: | as soon as the memory is needed else where, the cache will be flushed and made available to applications |
| [18:09:38] | wagnerrp_: | in theory... |
| [18:09:57] | wagnerrp_: | if you get a bit too close to the limit, the OOM killer may get a bit aggressive |
| [18:10:09] | rhollan: | sure. Want to see if I can get a remote FE watching TV at the same time. I think it might be a bit much for the little ID41 and the BE might need to be elsewhere. |
| [18:10:34] | wagnerrp_: | i had to add a bit of swap to my backend when i upgraded to FBSD10, since the new ARC is a bit slow to give up memory |
| [18:10:47] | wagnerrp_: | and i was getting random OOMs whenever someone would kick off the buildbot |
| [18:10:48] | rhollan: | RE OOM: yeah, that's why I was watching free go down to 180MB and was getting nurvous. |
| [18:11:27] | rhollan: | don't really want to swap to flash. I guess I could swap to a partition on the attached Lacie 3T drive (USB3 or eSata) |
| [18:11:58] | wagnerrp_: | is this a proper SSD? |
| [18:12:02] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I'm getting some coredumps in /tmp... one of them is core.%.decorder, what's that? |
| [18:12:17] | skd5aner: | I'm seeing several for mythcommflag too |
| [18:12:35] | wagnerrp_: | core.%.decorder? never heard of it |
| [18:12:42] | rhollan: | No. It's a 7200 RPM USB3 drive. The OS drive is a 64GB SATA2 SSD |
| [18:12:43] | skd5aner: | core.1392646557.1001.3459.Decoder |
| [18:12:57] | skd5aner: | was being lazy |
| [18:13:07] | wagnerrp_: | still never heard of it |
| [18:13:10] | rhollan: | I figured I'd use the spinning disk for media. |
| [18:13:32] | wagnerrp_: | right... the "flash" is a proper SSD with wear leveling and all |
| [18:14:12] | rhollan: | It's nice: all aluminum case. fanless. $219 at Frys. The SSD is a Kingston. Supports TRIM but not sure uf Ubuntu 13.10 has that on by default |
| [18:16:42] | skd5aner: | rhollan: I do not use trim within fstab. I actually run fstrim via cron |
| [18:17:28] | skd5aner: | you can run it daily or weekly and that's usually enough, rather than doing it directly within fstab, which will do it after every single delete action |
| [18:17:54] | skd5aner: | and, TRIM is only supported on EXT4 and BTRFS I believe |
| [18:19:03] | rhollan: | thanks. I think I formatted the SSD ext3, though. lemme check fstab |
| [18:19:24] | rhollan: | nope ext4 |
| [18:19:27] | rhollan: | :-) |
| [18:21:02] | skd5aner: | rhollan: http://turriebuntu.wordpress.com/ubuntu-pages . . . te-in-fstab/ |
| [18:23:28] | rhollan: | thanks |
| [18:25:36] | rhollan: | yup |
| [18:25:57] | rhollan: | 51013959680 bytes were trimmed |
| [18:26:02] | rhollan: | been recording and deleting a lot |
| [18:26:17] | rhollan: | for now I was recoding to the ssd for test |
| [18:26:54] | wagnerrp_: | if you're ever using an SSD and not using TRIM, you cannot populate the entire disk with filesystems |
| [18:27:13] | wagnerrp_: | you need to leave it a good chunk of space unpartitioned to let the drive do its own internal garbage collection |
| [18:27:34] | rhollan: | watching 1080p is occupying around 900MB now |
| [18:27:55] | rhollan: | good to know |
| [18:28:01] | wagnerrp_: | just the frontend? |
| [18:28:12] | rhollan: | FE and BE on ID41 |
| [18:29:47] | wagnerrp_: | i mean the frontend application is listed as taking 900MB in the 'res' column? |
| [18:32:04] | rhollan: | no, total system mem used-cached |
| [18:32:26] | rhollan: | 435MB res |
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| [18:33:03] | wagnerrp_: | ah |
| [18:33:09] | rhollan: | but if I try to start a remote FE, the FE on the ID41 hangs. If I escape and restart it, the remote one hangs. Looks like it isn't seeing other tuners. |
| [18:33:15] | rhollan: | though I can record three shows at once |
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| [18:35:24] | wagnerrp_: | i can't think of any reason that might happen |
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| [18:39:24] | rhollan: | oooh, recording two 1080P programs on the ID41 really slows it down. Doesn't surprise me though. Prolly want to use it as an FE only. |
| [18:40:54] | wagnerrp_: | it's really just a bunch of bit shuffling |
| [18:41:02] | wagnerrp_: | there's no real significant processing involved |
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| [18:41:29] | rhollan: | unless it's transcoding, though it shouldn't/ |
| [18:41:58] | rhollan: | funny it's currently recording but I see nothing in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings |
| [18:42:30] | rhollan: | and I'm recording two programs but it says there is no free tuner when I have three |
| [18:43:06] | wagnerrp_: | what kind of tuners? |
| [18:43:17] | rhollan: | HD Homerun Prime |
| [18:43:28] | wagnerrp_: | you individually defined all three? |
| [18:43:33] | rhollan: | yes. |
| [18:43:44] | rhollan: | Funny: recording two shows from one tuner, apparently/ |
| [18:43:57] | rhollan: | unless one stopped. |
| [18:43:59] | wagnerrp_: | so you're just using it as a clearqam tuner with no cablecard? |
| [18:44:06] | rhollan: | UI on the HDHomerun shows one tuner in use. |
| [18:44:14] | rhollan: | no. I have a cable card |
| [18:44:16] | rhollan: | Mcard |
| [18:44:24] | rhollan: | :-) |
| [18:44:25] | wagnerrp_: | then mythtv should be unable to use multirec |
| [18:44:34] | rhollan: | ??? |
| [18:44:55] | wagnerrp_: | multirec is using one tuner to record multiple shows on a single multiplex simultaneously |
| [18:45:15] | wagnerrp_: | cablecard tuners do not allow that. it's one recording for one tuner |
| [18:45:25] | rhollan: | shouldn't be on the same multiplex. |
| [18:46:07] | rhollan: | FE just hung |
| [18:48:39] | wagnerrp_: | looks like my file server is bottlenecked on the CPU |
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| [18:52:45] | rhollan: | crap: thinks all tuners are busy even though I stopped and started BE |
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| [18:53:25] | wagnerrp_: | does it actually think they're busy? or is it saying none are available? |
| [18:54:20] | wagnerrp_: | the latter often means a file permissions issue |
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| [18:55:24] | rhollan: | busy. BE has been recording two that I started, even though I tried to delete the recording. I guess starting manual recording requires me to stop it in the PG |
| [18:55:40] | rhollan: | otherwise it will just restart if the show is still broadcast |
| [18:57:13] | rhollan: | Hmm. a single recording file. Must have been a multiplex. |
| [18:57:23] | rhollan: | But that means that BE is seeing only one tuner. |
| [18:58:00] | rhollan: | yup. now i can watch tv again |
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| [19:01:44] | rhollan: | O.K. Now I am recording from one tuner and watching another. |
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| [19:03:43] | rhollan: | FE core dump trying to record two and watch a third |
| [19:05:00] | rhollan: | one of the recording stopped when I restarted FE. |
| [19:08:55] | rhollan: | looks like it's only seeing 2/3 tuners |
| [19:11:18] | rhollan: | trying to delete third tuner and re-add it |
| [19:29:41] | rhollan: | Ah! Does Max recordings refer to multi-rec? Then I should set them to 1 for the 3 HDHomerun tuners |
| [19:30:25] | rhollan: | looks like it. |
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| [19:54:14] | rhollan: | yeah, not seeing the third tuner |
| [20:00:39] | skd5aner: | you've got to add each tuner |
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| [20:10:48] | rhollan: | damn. it isn't finding the third tuner |
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| [20:16:55] | rhollan: | any idea why mythtv is not finding the third hdhomerun prime tuner |
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| [20:21:47] | skd5aner: | do you not see it in the mythtv-setup options? |
| [20:24:17] | rhollan: | yes. but when I start to record two programs, I can't tune on the third tuner |
| [20:24:55] | rhollan: | I've tried removing and adding it several times |
| [20:25:22] | rhollan: | is there perhaps a record and live limit I need to override? |
| [20:29:20] | skd5aner: | no |
| [20:29:33] | skd5aner: | but, make sure your tuner orders are 0 |
| [20:29:43] | skd5aner: | 0 means "don't use"... |
| [20:29:52] | skd5aner: | and there's a livetv order and a recording order |
| [20:29:57] | skd5aner: | er... |
| [20:30:05] | skd5aner: | "make sure your tuner orders are NOT 0" |
| [20:30:14] | rhollan: | did that |
| [20:30:19] | rhollan: | they are 1 2 3 |
| [20:30:25] | rhollan: | priority is 0 on all of them |
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| [20:31:09] | rhollan: | perhaps I should have the livetv order the reverse of the recording order? |
| [20:31:34] | skd5aner: | I do, but you don't have to |
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| [20:37:13] | rhollan: | nope. just can't select the third tuner when two are recording. ARGH! |
| [20:41:00] | rhollan: | once i record on two tuners I can't select the third |
| [20:41:10] | skd5aner: | "select"? |
| [20:41:25] | skd5aner: | what does the status page say? does it say there are 3 tuners? |
| [20:41:45] | skd5aner: | http://backenedip:6544 |
| [20:43:24] | rhollan: | where would it say that? The main page there says nothing about tuners |
| [20:44:39] | skd5aner: | information button |
| [20:44:49] | skd5aner: | and, it shold be on the main page |
| [20:44:51] | skd5aner: | tuner status |
| [20:44:57] | skd5aner: | or, encoder status |
| [20:45:27] | rhollan: | says nothing abbout tuners. Shows encoder status which showed the two encoders for the two chanels being recorded and 4 more not recording |
| [20:45:36] | skd5aner: | yes, encoder = tuner |
| [20:45:41] | skd5aner: | bad verbiage |
| [20:46:01] | rhollan: | mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources. This can indicate a potential grabber failure. |
| [20:46:13] | skd5aner: | well, that would be the issue probably |
| [20:46:14] | rhollan: | hmm. wonder if it isn't getting channel data for the third tuner |
| [20:46:30] | skd5aner: | you have to go in to mythtv-setup, go in to the input seciont, and associate a video source with all 3 inputs |
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| [20:46:43] | skd5aner: | otherise, the tuner is there, but there's no video source associated with it |
| [20:47:48] | rhollan: | it is assigned to the same video source as the other two |
| [20:48:30] | skd5aner: | did you restart mythbackend after setting everything up in mythtv-setup? |
| [20:48:55] | rhollan: | yes |
| [20:49:09] | skd5aner: | do me a favor, coy and paste the "encoder status" to pastebin |
| [20:49:15] | skd5aner: | from the webpage |
| [20:49:26] | rhollan: | if I try to fetch channels from the shared listing source the UI hangs a bit. then I cam move to next and finish |
| [20:49:38] | skd5aner: | that's normal |
| [20:50:37] | rhollan: | http://pastebin.com/3PzBDzVv |
| [20:51:10] | skd5aner: | 13115425–0 = HDHR-Prime Tuner 1 |
| [20:51:15] | skd5aner: | 13115425–1 = HDHR-Prime Tuner 2 |
| [20:51:25] | skd5aner: | 13115425–2 = HDHR-Prime Tuner 3 |
| [20:51:28] | skd5aner: | you don't have the last one |
| [20:51:36] | skd5aner: | no idea what the others are |
| [20:51:39] | skd5aner: | my suggestion... |
| [20:51:45] | skd5aner: | delete ALL tuners and video sources |
| [20:51:48] | skd5aner: | then, set it up again |
| [20:52:00] | skd5aner: | that's your best bet and probably the easiest too |
| [20:52:24] | skd5aner: | do not use more than 1 tuner for a HDHR-Prime tuner, multirec doesn't work there and you don't need virtual tuners |
| [20:52:28] | skd5aner: | that will only confuse things |
| [20:53:39] | rhollan: | no set max recordings to 1 for all three. |
| [20:54:18] | rhollan: | but when I removed the second one and tried to record and watch something else it failed. so it's just the third tuner not seen. Will try delete/readd all. I guess that's a bit more aggressive with the DB. |
| [20:54:41] | skd5aner: | Yea, the general advice is to always do the "Delete all" option |
| [20:54:51] | skd5aner: | otherwise, tunerIDs can become screwy, etc |
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| [20:59:43] | rhollan: | Oh now the status page looks better |
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| [21:01:06] | rhollan: | ARG now I see three tuners but can only use one. |
| [21:01:16] | rhollan: | Should the tuner order be 1 2 3 or 1 3 5? |
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| [21:03:55] | rhollan: | do I have to rerun mythfilldatabase if the source has not changed? |
| [21:10:14] | rhollan: | ARGH! Now I can only see one tuner! |
| [21:12:53] | rhollan: | GRR |
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| [21:25:06] | rhollan: | O.K. I deleted all capture devices and added them again, twice AND I CAN ONLY ACCESS ONE TUNER even though the status page shows 3 |
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| [21:28:28] | rhollan: | things went from bad to worse: the status web page shows 3 tuners, instead of 2, but I can only now use one at a time, instead of two. |
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| [21:40:27] | rhollan: | nothing but pure grief |
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| [22:02:33] | justinh: | bye bye mister slow booting Pi |
| [22:04:13] | justinh: | 30s for an 'embedded' device to boot up is crap, SD card or not |
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| [22:06:02] | justinh: | so now I'm building this: https://github.com/gamaral/rpi-buildroot with a few extra utils for good measure |
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| [22:24:40] | justinh: | need MOARCPU. This is gonna take an age & a bit, even on a proper computer |
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| [22:40:54] | rhollan: | well that just bites: myth wont see the second or third tuner on th hdhomerun now. |
| [22:41:58] | Kwisher: | rhollan: which myth version? |
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| [22:44:54] | rhollan: | 0.27 I think |
| [22:45:57] | rhollan: | Version: 2:0.27.0+fixes.20130919.5b917e8–0ubuntu1 |
| [22:46:39] | rhollan: | it wasn't seeing the third tuner, so I removed all, and readded and reconnect them, and now it will see all three but only use the first |
| [22:46:47] | rhollan: | I am pulling my hair out over this |
| [22:46:57] | rhollan: | I even tried removing and readding the source and refilling the db |
| [22:47:58] | rhollan: | for some reason the tuners are numbered 1 3 5. |
| [22:48:18] | rhollan: | yes, I set the max recordings for each to 1 as the hdhomerun does not support multirec |
| [22:49:17] | rhollan: | If I start a record, then leave live TV and try to reenter it wont let me, popping back out. But, it doesn't tell me all tuners are in use either. |
| [22:49:25] | rhollan: | I wonder if the hdhomerun needs to be rebooted. |
| [22:49:27] | Kwisher: | can you watch livetv on each tuner? |
| [22:50:52] | rhollan: | how can I tell? How can I get mythtv to move to another tuner without tying one up by recording |
| [22:51:35] | Kwisher: | menu > source > switch input |
| [22:51:52] | Kwisher: | it won't let you tune to the one recording |
| [22:52:20] | rhollan: | let me try |
| [22:52:30] | rhollan: | the status web page DOES show all tuners |
| [22:53:43] | Kwisher: | did you set all the tuner priorities correctly in the b/e setup? |
| [22:53:46] | rhollan: | There is no option to switch input from menu >source |
| [22:53:51] | rhollan: | all are priority 0 |
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| [22:54:17] | Kwisher: | it's in there somewhere |
| [22:54:56] | rhollan: | all are priority 0 and schedule orders are default: 1 3 and 5 for some reason |
| [22:55:14] | Kwisher: | make sure you scroll all the way down in the source menu |
| [22:57:29] | rhollan: | menu > source just has one option : jump to program |
| [22:57:39] | rhollan: | that has one option recorded program |
| [22:57:47] | rhollan: | that has deleted and live tv options |
| [22:58:04] | rhollan: | Live TV has recorded programs, even if deleted |
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| [22:59:54] | rhollan: | I'm going to reboot the hdbomerun. |
| [23:00:08] | rhollan: | FE and BE stopped, rebooting HDHR |
| [23:01:57] | rhollan: | restarting BE |
| [23:02:19] | rhollan: | starting FE |
| [23:02:55] | rhollan: | didn't help |
| [23:03:01] | rhollan: | :-( |
| [23:06:27] | rhollan: | could the input priority of 0 be the problem on all inputs? should it be 1 on all of them? |
| [23:07:19] | rhollan: | my gut is telling me that something is messed up in the db. I tried deleting all capture cards and readding them, and it made things WORSE: I had 2/3 tuners that could be seen and 2/3 used, and it went to 3/3 seen but only 1/3 used/ |
| [23:13:31] | rhollan: | at this point I' |
| [23:13:42] | rhollan: | m tempted to try to uninstall and reinstall everything :-( |
| [23:16:52] | rhollan: | And every-time I go into mythtv-setup the first tuner is set to channel; 18–1 which does not exist. |
| [23:19:21] | rhollan: | mythmysqlcheck comes back ok |
| [23:19:43] | rhollan: | mysqlcheck, that is |
| [23:24:56] | rhollan: | Hmm The displayname fields of tuners 2 and 3 are the same |
| [23:24:59] | rhollan: | in the mysql db |
| [23:26:38] | rhollan: | but i think that was just my fatfingering |
| [23:26:43] | rhollan: | fixed it |
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| [23:44:17] | rhollan: | O.K. trying from scratch: apt-get purged mythtv; dropped mythconverg; dpkg -reconfigured mythtv-database; installed mythtv; ran mythtv-setup; and now running mythfilldatabase. |
| [23:44:42] | rhollan: | this will take a while |
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