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| [00:01:05] | justinh: | just had to smash up some old apparently non-working hard disks. They've done nothing but sit in a box in my loft for the last 5 years or more.. Most were unreadable |
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| [04:15:38] | Blue1: | i am getting an error trying to update the mythconverg password for user mythtv: ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mythconverg.user' doesn't exist |
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| [04:18:17] | wagnerrp: | that's because there is no user table in mythconverg, it's in mysql |
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| [04:21:17] | wagnerrp: | but you shouldn't be messing with the user table directly anyway |
| [04:21:17] | wagnerrp: | there are mysql commands that mess with it for you |
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| [05:12:32] | Blue1: | I am having trouble trying to ssh into a new install. hosts.allow is set correctly |
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| [05:19:13] | clever: | Blue1: what error is it giving? |
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| [05:20:45] | Blue1: | i fixed it – I thought openssh-server was pre-installed – infact it is not. |
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| [05:24:43] | Wowbagger_: | Is there a way to get mythtv to always call the channel changne script even if the channel does not need changing? |
| [05:26:12] | Wowbagger_: | I'm looking for someway to get it to send an ir button press (ok) to ensure the tuner is awake for a recording. It powers down after 4 hours. |
| [05:26:30] | Wowbagger_: | The OK button either wakes it up or does nothing if it is already awake. |
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| [05:27:32] | Wowbagger_: | So I have that in the channel change script... but if I'm recording a marathon of shows in a row on the same channel, the tuner powers down after 4 hours. |
| [05:28:53] | Wowbagger_: | I'd rather not have to babysit it all night. |
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| [06:02:40] | Wowbagger_: | Irc issues. Any answers to my question about ir channel change? |
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| [11:18:26] | stuartm: | is anyone here able to test http://code.mythtv.org with safari – apparently there's some sort of problem with iOS6 but I'm wondering if it's a more general issue with Safari |
| [11:18:39] | Merlin83b: | Yep, give me a sec. |
| [11:19:04] | Merlin83b: | http://cl.ly/image/2T3U330T2n0n |
| [11:20:36] | stuartm: | Merlin83b: thanks, that looks fine – had a report last night that on iOS6 it 'goes completely nuts' |
| [11:20:39] | Merlin83b: | Seems fine clicking around, too. |
| [11:21:15] | stuartm: | think safari on iOS must have been caching some temporary redirect breakage |
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| [11:22:09] | stuartm: | we've switched code.mythtv.org to always use https |
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| [11:22:24] | Merlin83b: | Ah |
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| [14:21:42] | wagnerrp_: | john critchfield is such a douche... |
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| [15:54:30] | __raven: | hi |
| [15:54:31] | __raven: | how to reset all database except the master settings? need to clean up all (buggy) recordings and schedules |
| [15:56:17] | wagnerrp_: | the guide data and channels, just delete the video source |
| [15:56:40] | wagnerrp_: | recordings, add everything to a playlist in mythfrontend, and then force the deletion of everything in the playlist |
| [15:56:57] | wagnerrp_: | recording rules, just need to go into manage recordings and individually delete them |
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| [15:58:28] | __raven: | wagnerrp_: does not solve the problem. i have thousands of old recording entries i suggest to slow down the database and i still have the problem to have only around 25% successfull recordings so i think anything is wrong with the dbs |
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| [16:00:44] | wagnerrp_: | old recording entries are only going to slow down the scheduler, not normal operation |
| [16:01:03] | wagnerrp_: | and then, thousands of them won't be a significant issue on any halfway decent machine |
| [16:01:51] | __raven: | does not explain my system to run like randomly |
| [16:02:33] | wagnerrp_: | need more information on the symptoms to comment on that |
| [16:03:12] | stuartm: | failed recordings are far more commonly caused by driver bugs than issues in MythTV, and almost never caused by database issues |
| [16:06:48] | __raven: | i migrated from 0.24 (i think) to recent version. since that the succeeded recordings went down to around 1/4. i never was able to schedule a chain of all 15 minute news chunks one after the other for 3 hours it resulted into none recording a single one. on "normal" recordings it never records for example two directly following shows and also single items in a wide range of free program schedule are |
| [16:06:50] | __raven: | lost |
| [16:07:27] | wagnerrp_: | what type of tuner? |
| [16:08:17] | __raven: | two wintv nova-td |
| [16:08:44] | __raven: | all configured to be 4 fully separate tuners |
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| [16:12:39] | stuartm: | when you upgraded, did you also upgrade the kernel? |
| [16:14:04] | __raven: | stuartm: yes its all recend |
| [16:15:27] | wagnerrp_: | the novas are "usb dongle on a PCI bridge" cards, right? |
| [16:16:00] | stuartm: | the dual tuners ones are |
| [16:16:42] | stuartm: | never used a TD variant before |
| [16:17:42] | stuartm: | __raven: I suggesting looking at the logs and dmesg, if you aren't able to learn anything from those then pastebin them and post the links here |
| [16:18:58] | wagnerrp_: | i assumed the "TD" meant "terrestrial dual" |
| [16:19:42] | __raven: | wagnerrp_: no its dual dvb-t via usb |
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| [16:27:54] | stuartm: | wagnerrp_: the 'D' meant 'diversity' or something equally meaningless, it was added when they had supply problems on the chips used for the Nova-T 500 and had to come up with a replacement |
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| [16:28:49] | stuartm: | seems they produced it in two different versions, a PCI-USB one and a straight USB |
| [16:29:08] | stuartm: | http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_novatdstick.html |
| [16:29:45] | stuartm: | "Diversity Technology: Most Freeview DVB-T TV tuners suffer interference due to low signal, obstructing walls and even power lines and cabling near by. With Hauppauge's WinTV-NOVA-TD Stick the diversity technology combines the signals from two aerials to produce a single better quallity reception!" |
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| [16:30:41] | stuartm: | http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_novatd500.html |
| [16:32:38] | Merlin83b: | Or http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_W . . . w.2FFeatures |
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| [16:35:52] | eee-blt: | Hi all |
| [16:36:27] | eee-blt: | I'd like to know how to use vlc as a backup for playing content from a myth front-end. |
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| [16:37:08] | eee-blt: | The idea is that when the default player chokes, I could select vlc (or mplayer, or...) |
| [16:37:26] | stuartm: | if the default player chokes then file a bug ... |
| [16:37:52] | eee-blt: | thanks stuart, that doesn't answer my question, though |
| [16:37:57] | stuartm: | unless you're trying to play stolen material encoded using stupid profiles |
| [16:38:44] | eee-blt: | whoa, I don't see the reason to go there. |
| [16:39:40] | eee-blt: | From time to time, recordings from my pvr150 don't play very well in the default player, and vlc can handle them better. |
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| [16:40:08] | wagnerrp_: | the video library can support external players |
| [16:40:12] | wagnerrp_: | recording playback cannot |
| [16:40:27] | stuartm: | eee-blt: guy in here yesterday was asking the exact same question, because he was unable to play 10-bit encoded video he got from bittorrent – I'm just trying to save everyone wasting time by stating that caveat from the outset, no offence intended |
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| [16:41:51] | stuartm: | eee-blt: recordings from a PVR-150 shouldn't be causing the mythtv player any problems, that was at one time the most popular piece of hardware for MythTV installs, we'd definitely appreciate a bug report and a sample so we can track down the problems |
| [16:42:08] | stuartm: | we've no outstanding bug reports for that issue that I'm aware of |
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| [16:44:00] | stuartm: | eee-blt: which version of MythTV? |
| [16:44:02] | eee-blt: | wagnerrp_: yes, I can move the recordings into the video library, add a non-standard extension, and then launch off that extension |
| [16:44:25] | eee-blt: | 0.25 from mythbuntu |
| [16:44:36] | stuartm: | eee-blt: start by upgrading, 0.25 is ancient |
| [16:44:45] | stuartm: | and the problem has likely already been fixed |
| [16:44:53] | stuartm: | 0.27 is available for mythbuntu |
| [16:45:40] | eee-blt: | stuartm: Yes, that is on my agenda, but I don't have the time at the moment. It'll be March before I do. |
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| [16:46:20] | eee-blt: | Til then, I'd like some work-around, if you have a better idea than I gave above. |
| [16:47:56] | stuartm: | eee-blt: can't you paste "MythTV Version" line from mythfrontend --version |
| [16:48:05] | stuartm: | sorry, that should be "can you" |
| [16:49:04] | stuartm: | v0.25.4 is the latest release on the 0.25 line, worth making sure you're running that |
| [16:49:31] | stuartm: | as wagnerrp_ states there is no workaround for recordings |
| [16:51:15] | eee-blt: | stuartm: MythTV Version : v0.25.2-15-g46cab93 |
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| [16:53:24] | stuartm: | mythbunutu should offer an upgrade to 0.25.4 that won't affect compatibility with any other 0.25 frontends or backends |
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| [16:54:04] | stuartm: | I say should, because I'm not entirely sure when they stopped providing support for 0.25 |
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| [16:55:55] | eee-blt: | hmmm, I just checked aptitude and I don't see any updates pending. |
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| [16:56:20] | stuartm: | superm1_: what's the most recent version of 0.25? |
| [16:56:31] | stuartm: | in the mythbuntu repos I mean |
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| [17:22:13] | Blue1: | i am having problems getting the mysql database working. |
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| [17:42:11] | wagnerrp_: | the "mysql database" meaning the `mythconverg` database, the database server, or the `mysql` database? |
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| [17:44:32] | wagnerrp_: | comments you've made in the past seemed to indicate you were inadvisibly trying to directly manipulate the user rights table in the `mysql` database |
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| [18:50:05] | superm1_: | stuartm: um we only track 0.28 0.27 and 0.26 i believe |
| [18:50:12] | superm1_: | so the last thing we built was 0.25.3: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.25/ubunt . . . in/m/mythtv/ |
| [18:50:41] | superm1_: | we might be able to manually run a build or something though, but it would probably be better whoever is on 0.25 to move up to something else |
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| [18:52:43] | stuartm: | superm1_: yeah, this is a user who is unwilling to upgrade at this time but believes the most recent version available from the repo is 0.25.2 – looks like 0.25.3 is there though |
| [18:53:45] | stuartm: | 0.25.4 is technically the latest and very last point release for 0.25, but tbh I don't think a point release upgrade would fix his issue anyway, he needs to get to 0.27 |
| [18:54:36] | stuartm: | superm1_: best guess is that he's not got the mythbuntu repo configured so he's 'stuck' with the version in the main repos |
| [18:57:48] | stuartm: | superm1_: no need to update that build, I'd much rather get users upgrading to something more recent where we can, only asked because he seemed sure that 0.25.2 was the most recent version of 0.25 available to him and that didn't sound right |
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| [19:58:39] | Blue1: | Blue1: i am having problems getting the mysql database working. (mythconverg) |
| [19:59:20] | wagnerrp_: | [12:42] <wagnerrp_> the "mysql database" meaning the `mythconverg` database, the database server, or the `mysql` database? |
| [20:00:22] | Blue1: | nope I can't even get into mysql as the root user. |
| [20:01:58] | Blue1: | i can do this: mysql -u root -p but I can;t do: mysql -uroot -p < mc.sql it complains no user root@localhost |
| [20:02:53] | Blue1: | okay beyond that point — I got mc.sql to take. |
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| [20:05:17] | wagnerrp_: | do you have anything other than mythtv on your database server? |
| [20:06:22] | eee-blt: | stuartm: you are right, i just checked and my backend is configured to use the ubuntu repo, even though i installed from mythbuntu iso |
| [20:06:26] | wagnerrp_: | if somehow you've managed to delete your administrative access from the server, it may be best to just trash the whole thing and start fresh |
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| [20:08:28] | Blue1: | no just mythtv |
| [20:08:50] | Blue1: | wagnerrp_: this is a fresh database. |
| [20:09:17] | Blue1: | wagnerrp_: I am willing to start over. |
| [20:09:28] | Blue1: | but I am a n00b to mysql |
| [20:09:37] | wagnerrp_: | i'm not talking about a fresh mythtv database |
| [20:09:43] | wagnerrp_: | i'm talking about a fresh mysql database |
| [20:09:58] | wagnerrp_: | meaning all the administrative configuration stored in the `mysql` database on the mysql server |
| [20:10:28] | Blue1: | okay i am tell to start with a fresh mysql database – how do I do that? |
| [20:11:06] | wagnerrp_: | i would ask that of your distro, since they may do some special manipulation of the server during installation |
| [20:12:05] | Blue1: | debian/wheezy 64 bit |
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| [20:26:38] | Blue1: | how do I startover creating a brand new mysql database? |
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| [21:55:10] | Blue1: | how do I startover creating a brand new mysql database? |
| [22:00:05] | justinh: | dig +short default._domainkey.justinhornsby.co.uk txt |
| [22:00:10] | justinh: | arghhh |
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| [22:00:27] | justinh: | Blue1: why would you need to do that? |
| [22:03:05] | Blue1: | my database is corrtupted that is what wagnerr suggested -starting all over. I have no issue with that, I just don't know how to do it – I am a mysql n00b |
| [22:04:52] | Blue1: | I am getting: error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' trying to do: mysqladmin -u root password 'root' |
| [22:05:45] | justinh: | mysql -u USERNAME -pPASSWORD where USERNAME and PASSWORD are username & password, respectively |
| [22:06:54] | justinh: | man, I hate my domain control panel. I'm supposed to know six hours in advance that I need to change DNS records so I can set the TTL to 0 |
| [22:06:55] | Blue1: | is that on the command line or inside mysql? |
| [22:07:08] | justinh: | try it. |
| [22:07:42] | justinh: | I'm almost tempted to do my own DNS serving too, but that's likely a step too far |
| [22:07:50] | Blue1: | i can get into mysql by doing: mysql -u root -p |
| [22:07:57] | Blue1: | then I am sort of lost |
| [22:08:02] | justinh: | then entering the password? |
| [22:08:08] | justinh: | what is it you're trying to do? |
| [22:08:12] | justinh: | hose the mythconverg database? |
| [22:08:33] | Blue1: | no I know how to do that – clean install of mysql database |
| [22:08:48] | Blue1: | drop database mythconverg; will do that |
| [22:09:06] | Blue1: | the mysql database is corrupted. |
| [22:09:17] | justinh: | you'd need to be asking in #mysql maybe |
| [22:09:24] | Blue1: | okay I can do that. |
| [22:09:35] | justinh: | or just try uninstalling mysql server with a 'purge' option |
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| [22:09:59] | justinh: | but that'd likely squish all the packages which depend on it too |
| [22:11:16] | Blue1: | ah great logged into mysql – can't send to channel |
| [22:12:09] | Blue1: | the channel directions there make no sense |
| [22:14:32] | justinh: | does mysqlcheck not work on the mysql mysql table? |
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| [22:18:08] | cotterpin: | could reconfigure mysql with dpkg --configure mysql-server |
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| [22:36:45] | Korny__: | hey all. Ive completed my server transformation. With 15hds and 1 ssd im pulling 120 watts with the backend recording and serving multiple frontends. Im happy |
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| [23:04:55] | justinh: | 120watts? how much is each tv? :-P |
| [23:05:10] | justinh: | have one frontend. One tv. LOL |
| [23:05:17] | justinh: | that'd be a power saving |
| [23:05:47] | justinh: | and if people whine about it, tell them that's how it used to be back in the day |
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| [23:25:23] | Korny: | well... 55 inch is 200, 32 is about 100 but they arent on 24/7 |
| [23:32:58] | wagnerrp: | aside from the hostname, it's actually SFW... http://www.pornhub.com/insights/pornhub-super-bowl/ |
| [23:33:22] | wagnerrp: | traffic logs show Denver fans needed to comfort themselves |
| [23:35:26] | Kwisher: | LOL |
| [23:41:24] | wagnerrp: | in related news, viewers from the northwest territories enjoy searching for "onion booty" porn... not sure i want to know what that means |
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