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| [06:16:46] | qu: | Well this just gets worse every day. Now the frontend can't find any videos. |
| [06:17:18] | qu: | It knows about the recordings, but when I go to watch one it can't find any of them, even ones I know are there. |
| [06:18:47] | qu: | The backend is running as mythtv, and the recordings dir is owned by mythtv, and the path to it is open. |
| [06:21:30] | qu: | This is on the remote machine. I can't even get into Myth on the backend machine because someone had me set it to opengl2, and ever since all I get is a black screen. |
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| [06:44:27] | bray90820: | how would i completely remove mythtv from ubuntu |
| [06:45:04] | qu: | Run synaptic, search for mythtv, and deinstall everything related. |
| [06:45:41] | bray90820: | synaptic package manager? |
| [06:46:24] | qu: | y |
| [06:46:41] | bray90820: | Does that mean yes |
| [06:46:52] | qu: | eyess. |
| [06:47:00] | bray90820: | Alright |
| [06:47:03] | bray90820: | Thanks |
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| [09:34:00] | Guest33268: | mythtv 0.27 is freaking awesome |
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| [10:05:40] | stuartm: | Guest33268: glad to hear it, have you calmed down since the last time you were here? |
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| [10:09:44] | stuartm: | justinh: "ah BBC HD is still only AVC" – as opposed to what? HEVC? |
| [10:11:48] | stuartm: | thankfully, it will be a few years before broadcast uses HEVC, since vdpau etc can't handle it |
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| [11:19:10] | dekarl-wortk: | stuartm: MVC? ^^ |
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| [11:24:07] | stuartm: | didn't seem applicable since BBC HD isn't 3D :) |
| [11:24:24] | stuartm: | not that stereoscopic video is 3D |
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| [11:26:44] | dekarl-work-agai: | stuartm: MVC is not limited to Stereoscopic, you can also do 5.1copic (or whatever that is called) |
| [11:26:48] | dekarl-work-agai: | ;) |
| [11:27:24] | stuartm: | heh |
| [11:27:57] | dekarl-work-agai: | makes me wonder if there is something like Ambisonics for video... |
| [11:29:02] | dekarl-work-agai: | I think they call it Holography |
| [11:31:31] | stuartm: | for me, it will never be truly 3D until you can walk through the scene, step behind and around objects and people |
| [11:32:09] | stuartm: | of course, that would make for a pretty rubbish film because you'd probably miss important details and action while you're busy looking elsewhere |
| [11:33:38] | dekarl-work-agai: | I'm not finding a good reference, but vaguely remember MVC being also applicable to add a MVC HD videostream as extension to an SD AVC stream, thus saving bandwith |
| [11:33:43] | stuartm: | but I guess the cinemas in Soho would be packed night after night |
| [11:35:56] | dekarl-work-agai: | combined with SCTP you could give the HD addition less priority to handle packet loss / low bandwidth situations better. Instead of a broken picture you'd get a good SD fallback |
| [11:36:09] | stuarta: | ugh SCTP |
| [11:36:20] | stuarta: | pita of a protocol |
| [11:39:41] | stuartm: | I hate first tier support who don't read what you wrote and send a stock reply |
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| [12:00:04] | stuarta: | you and me both |
| [12:03:47] | dekarl-work-agai: | I like asking first tier why they did not ask the customer what he is trying to do when "xxx happens / xxx does not work". Ohh, that and "What an interesting fact that an error message appears, would you mind telling us which one?" |
| [12:08:45] | ** stuarta is investigating pci memory allocation failures :) ** | |
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| [12:24:31] | wagnerrp: | our first tier support likes to restart the application |
| [12:24:58] | wagnerrp: | which in turn wipes out most of the application logs we would use to otherwise diagnose the issue |
| [12:25:42] | stuarta: | "did you try turning it off and on again?" |
| [12:26:54] | wagnerrp: | seriously |
| [12:27:39] | wagnerrp: | sadly, we just log in-memory, not to-file |
| [12:27:48] | wagnerrp: | so you turn it of and on again and you're boned |
| [12:35:25] | stuarta: | do you need to cluebat 1st line to say "please dump the logs first"?? |
| [12:36:21] | wagnerrp: | sometimes it's at least not our people, but the customer on site trying to fix the problem |
| [12:38:04] | stuarta: | file an rfe to dump the logs on shutdown |
| [12:38:09] | stuarta: | or similar |
| [12:39:21] | wagnerrp: | there needs to be a clause in there that if they fail to do so, they're getting charged for their support time |
| [12:39:59] | wagnerrp: | we suspect that at least time times, they know doing so wipes the logs, and the evidence of them bungling things to cause the problems in the first place |
| [12:40:07] | wagnerrp: | s/time/some/ |
| [12:41:58] | stuarta: | logs are your best friend |
| [12:42:35] | stuarta: | "i didn't do anything"... "the logs say differently" |
| [12:45:35] | wagnerrp: | about two weeks ago, some contractor fat-fingered a command and changed a root password |
| [12:45:37] | wagnerrp: | that was fun |
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| [19:29:14] | cybrNaut-: | mythbuntu question — how do you start the backend? |
| [19:29:43] | cybrNaut-: | the menus only show a client |
| [19:35:14] | ctmjr: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend start or maybe in ubuntu sudo service mythbackend start |
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| [19:42:47] | cybrNaut-: | ctmjr: thanks |
| [19:44:03] | cybrNaut-: | also, mythbuntu asks for a password, and prefills the field with "0000". Is that a default password that will work? |
| [19:44:26] | cybrNaut-: | (i think the client asked for that.. iirc) |
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| [19:52:08] | wagnerrp_: | cybrNaut-: that's the frontend attempting to do autodetection of the frontend/database |
| [19:52:21] | wagnerrp_: | autodetection of the backend, not frontend |
| [19:52:49] | wagnerrp_: | the pin is just an optional security measure that is really only to allow multiple independent clusters on the same network |
| [19:53:10] | wagnerrp_: | if the pin is set to 0000 on the backend, that means allow any to query database credentials from the backend |
| [19:53:27] | sphery: | and 0000 means anyone can connect to the backend and ask it for the database username/password |
| [19:53:42] | ** sphery is too slow ** | |
| [19:53:56] | cybrNaut-: | thanks folks.. i appreciate it |
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| [20:23:37] | whoDat: | my ancient mythtv system mainboard died yesterday, after running.. hmm. like 6 years? |
| [20:25:03] | whoDat: | deciding if i should go i3 or i5 for a frontend/backend all in one system. |
| [20:30:59] | MartinT: | i7 extreme... 4 SLi graphics cards... that's what you need... |
| [20:31:02] | wagnerrp_: | do you intend to do encoding, or any other intensive batch process? |
| [20:31:11] | ** MartinT giggles ** | |
| [20:31:23] | MartinT: | sorry... couldn't resist... |
| [20:31:46] | wagnerrp_: | an i7 extreme is actually a low CPU these days |
| [20:31:55] | wagnerrp_: | two generations old |
| [20:31:59] | whoDat: | MartinT: what you smokin... lol...nice game rig though ;) |
| [20:31:59] | wagnerrp_: | s/low/slow/ |
| [20:32:32] | whoDat: | wagnerrp_: you remember the old dragon systems for mythtv? |
| [20:32:54] | wagnerrp_: | scratch that, it seems they did come out with an Ivy Bridge -E late last year |
| [20:32:58] | wagnerrp_: | so... only one generation old |
| [20:33:33] | MartinT: | so what's the top dogs gonads these days then? |
| [20:33:35] | wagnerrp_: | the dragon systems have been around mythtv longer than i have |
| [20:33:55] | whoDat: | wagnerrp_: well thats waht I had... from years ago. it finally died |
| [20:34:20] | whoDat: | so it has 3 PCI cards in it... PVR-500, pcHDTV-5500, etc |
| [20:34:58] | whoDat: | trying to find a new i5/i7 LGA1150 processor board that has 3 PCI slots instead of PCI-e |
| [20:35:07] | whoDat: | so i can still use those cards |
| [20:35:40] | whoDat: | and maybe DDR2 so i can still use the old memory. I may go DDR3 though. |
| [20:36:00] | wagnerrp_: | do you even have an option? |
| [20:36:03] | whoDat: | and it needs a serial port header for the IR blaster |
| [20:36:17] | wagnerrp_: | i thought a dragon was an old 939 system (DDR1) |
| [20:36:26] | whoDat: | yeah i think this one will work ( http://www.microcenter.com/product/423788/Asu . . . _Motherboard ) |
| [20:37:00] | whoDat: | wagnerrp_: mine was a Dragon 2 i think? i dunno its been so long and the dragon website doesnt exist anymore |
| [20:37:36] | whoDat: | the old board is an intel DG965WH |
| [20:39:25] | wagnerrp_: | i don't know why anyone would bother making an LGA1150 DDR2 board |
| [20:40:35] | wagnerrp_: | i don't know why Intel would even bother adding DDR2 support to the haswell memory controller |
| [20:46:47] | whoDat: | yeah i agree |
| [20:46:54] | whoDat: | i think thats a typo on microcenter's site |
| [20:47:39] | whoDat: | newegg says it uses DDR3 |
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| [21:00:34] | Korny: | whoDat: I run a 35watt tdp ivy bridge I3 and have 0 issues with teh backend including real time comercial flagging with 4–5 streams |
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| [21:20:21] | whoDat: | Korny: thanks for the info |
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| [21:21:49] | justinh: | omg stuarta was here? heh |
| [21:28:23] | justinh: | stuartm: so is BBC HD's AVC the same as the camcorder format AVCHD ? |
| [21:29:23] | justinh: | I'm gonna go ahead & try my sample of the BBC HD tests from years ago to see if the Raspberry PoS can decode it |
| [21:29:36] | justinh: | if I can find it |
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| [21:40:27] | stuartm: | justinh: AVC is the codec, the AVCHD used by camcorders and cameras is in fact a spec defining the codec (AVC), the container (MPEG-TS) and filesystem format based on the Bluray filesystem |
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| [21:43:12] | stuartm: | but yes, they are the same – differences can occur in the encoding though, some AVC features require more horsepower but provide better compression and/or picture quality – these features are classed by 'Profile' – http://blog.mediacoderhq.com/h264-profiles-and-levels/ |
| [21:43:47] | stuartm: | so a device may be able to decode 'Baseline' AVC, but not High Profile AVC |
| [21:45:11] | justinh: | can't find my sample or any link to the original samples online anymore anyway |
| [21:45:23] | stuartm: | justinh: fwiw, the BBC changed the encoding and bitrate since the early days (first two or three years were at 22Mbps, it's now 10–11Mbps) |
| [21:45:32] | justinh: | only some MKV files I wouldn't trust as far as I could spit |
| [21:46:01] | justinh: | stuartm: yeah I think it might be easier to decode now. Lower bitrate... although maybe lower bitrate but more complex |
| [21:46:50] | stuartm: | bluray is a good test – if it can play an AVC encoded file from a bluray rip, then it can handle anything you might see broadcast or otherwise |
| [21:47:12] | justinh: | just thought though.. all this time I've been berating hardware decoding for whatever reason – and yet hardware decoding is in general the destination for the vast majority of media – broadcast or on disc |
| [21:47:33] | stuartm: | of course bluray also allows the use of the MS VC1 codec, so it's not as simple as trying any old Bluray |
| [21:49:24] | stuartm: | justinh: if you register for a free box.com account I can give you access to at least one BBC HD sample, plus I think there are some other H.264 samples there too (semi-official MythTV sample store) |
| [21:49:37] | justinh: | I've got a box.com account I think |
| [21:50:37] | justinh: | yup. |
| [21:50:43] | stuartm: | ok, there's an old BBC HD sample there (testcard), a newer one and an HD-PVR sample |
| [21:51:56] | justinh: | the clips I had were the testcard & a bit of Later |
| [21:53:04] | stuartm: | actually, not sure how old the second BBC sample is ... |
| [21:53:57] | justinh: | well, if it's more than 12Mbits/sec.... |
| [21:54:01] | justinh: | ;-) |
| [21:54:47] | stuartm: | yeah, just can't be sure without downloading it :) |
| [21:57:10] | stuartm: | I can make other samples available, ITV 1 HD, Channel 4 HD etc |
| [21:57:33] | stuartm: | although they are from Satellite, not sure how the encoding compares on Freeview |
| [22:00:09] | justinh: | watched the hdpvr clip first. That really popped. The BBC HD sample looks... like SD |
| [22:00:19] | stuartm: | wonder if there are any differences between the different BBC HD channels |
| [22:00:32] | stuartm: | justinh: a lot depends on how it was filmed |
| [22:00:37] | justinh: | just found out there's no BBC4 HD on freeview |
| [22:00:42] | justinh: | booo! |
| [22:00:50] | stuartm: | justinh: that sucks |
| [22:00:57] | justinh: | stuartm: the weather looks like upscaled SD |
| [22:01:35] | stuartm: | justinh: that makes sense since they only just launched BBC News HD – so I doubt they had HD cameras in the news studios before then |
| [22:02:35] | stuartm: | these being test samples, they are there for regression testing of decoding etc, not their picture quality |
| [22:02:42] | justinh: | heh |
| [22:03:04] | justinh: | also, the BBC sample video has a lot of shallow depth of field in the trailers etc] |
| [22:03:14] | justinh: | damn artists |
| [22:04:25] | justinh: | the non-test card clip is definitely after the HD format change though. You can tell by the idents |
| [22:06:19] | stuartm: | something you learn to live with is arty filters, colour grading and lighting – the HD stuff they show in the showrooms has all be filmed to show off the high resolution, but in the real world most arty types don't care about clean, sharp well lit pictures :/ |
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| [22:06:53] | justinh: | SD looks perfectly acceptable to me on my folks' telly.. most of the time |
| [22:06:53] | stuartm: | swear some of them are using high end RED cameras or similar, but then smearing vaseline on the lens for that arty 'soft' look |
| [22:06:58] | skd5aner: | sphery: you around |
| [22:07:00] | skd5aner: | ? |
| [22:07:46] | justinh: | stuartm: twas ever thus. I remember a tutor at college berating people spending zillions on fancy camera bodies & lenses, then buggering it all up using a stock with massive grains |
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| [22:08:40] | stuartm: | recorded a Soderbergh film the other night ... forgot just how much he loves his coloured filters, it's fine in a fine like Solaris but elsewhere it can just be a distraction |
| [22:09:09] | stuartm: | s/fine/film/ |
| [22:09:30] | justinh: | I *tried* to watch star trek the other week. The first of the Abrams reboots. LENS FLARES! ZOMG LENS FLARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [22:10:10] | stuartm: | justinh: these days it's people buying those £££ bodies and lenses then sticking a £10 'UV' filter on |
| [22:10:39] | stuartm: | the real joke is that UV is only a problem for film cameras, not your modern DSLR |
| [22:11:10] | justinh: | maybe they like their video looking like it's shot through a plastic window |
| [22:11:35] | stuartm: | I can't love the new Star Trek films, the first one especially with the ill judged slapstick |
| [22:12:25] | skd5aner: | I have a UV filter on my DSLR lenses, it's a decent one, but I know it makes 0 difference on the quality of the pictures – but that's not why I use it |
| [22:12:29] | justinh: | the lens flares put me off. well them & all the blimmin hanging onto gantries by fingertips |
| [22:12:32] | skd5aner: | I use it to protect my lenses |
| [22:12:44] | stuartm: | for me it will always be (some of) the original films, and even then, probably not the ones that everyone else would choose |
| [22:13:03] | justinh: | KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! ? |
| [22:14:08] | stuartm: | skd5aner: a lot of people would argue it does adversely affect the image, and I've seen plenty of people with mystery glare issues (caused by light bouncing around between the lens and filter) to agree |
| [22:14:27] | justinh: | reminds me about the only thing I miss about my last job. Lawrence, my co-worker. He's the one who'd sometimes come into work, pick up his house & speak into it with a Scottish accent |
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| [22:15:00] | justinh: | stuartm: no, they're invisible GHOST SPIRITS only visible in digital cameras :-O Wooooooo |
| [22:15:07] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I believe it can, and it does ever so slightly reduce the amount of light, but I didn't buy an el cheapo UV filter... |
| [22:17:09] | stuartm: | justinh: fav is #6, #2 probably comes in next, then ... #5 – which is the one most people hate, but I love – perhaps because of the atheist agenda |
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| [22:18:30] | skd5aner: | For me, a $50 UV filter is worth the cost to protect my lense, where the real money is. I haven't, personally, seen any negative effects in my pictures |
| [22:18:32] | justinh: | I don't know them as numbers |
| [22:19:17] | stuartm: | skd5aner: I prefer just to be extra careful and to replace the lens cap – on all my lenses but one (pancake), the hood protects the lens from accidental knocks anyway |
| [22:19:39] | skd5aner: | When I'm shooting all day, the lens cap stays in my bag most of the time... |
| [22:20:04] | stuartm: | justinh: Undiscovered Country, Wrath of Khan, The Final Frontier |
| [22:20:07] | skd5aner: | But, that's true... the hood does a good job :) |
| [22:22:01] | skd5aner: | Either way, just a little bit of insurance – I'm sure that in the right setting, an UV filter could be detrimental, but I've yet to find it :) |
| [22:23:27] | justinh: | I think I ought to give the original movie series a re-watch |
| [22:23:38] | skd5aner: | I need to too... |
| [22:23:45] | skd5aner: | but, really, I was a TNG fan |
| [22:23:56] | justinh: | maybe one day they'll do a rebooted version sans flares |
| [22:24:06] | skd5aner: | I was one of the few who even semi-enjoyed Voyager |
| [22:24:14] | justinh: | though apparently the lens flares were in camera |
| [22:24:26] | justinh: | never watched v'ger ;-) |
| [22:24:35] | justinh: | nor enterprise |
| [22:24:43] | skd5aner: | never watched enterprise |
| [22:24:49] | stuartm: | if I knew I was going to be in a particularly dusty/sandy environment then I might decide it was worth the piece of mind, although I'd be wary of taking a camera into that environment to begin with |
| [22:24:50] | skd5aner: | and only half watched DS9 |
| [22:24:54] | justinh: | and definitely never DS9 |
| [22:25:23] | justinh: | space opera. Ugh |
| [22:25:52] | skd5aner: | All of the TNG episodes are part of Amazon Prime – I've been considering talking the wife in to watching it with me – she's star trek ignorant |
| [22:26:15] | stuartm: | TOS has it's moments, but it's just too creaky, too silly for me – worth seeing as a kid but I couldn't re-watch it |
| [22:26:18] | skd5aner: | stuartm: what do you shoot with? |
| [22:26:40] | justinh: | anything to do with space, my wife hates |
| [22:26:51] | justinh: | and for me, anything to do with anything she watches, I hate |
| [22:27:00] | stuartm: | TNG, on the other hand was just too politically correct, too much a product of the decade it was written |
| [22:27:10] | skd5aner: | stuartm: that's how I kinda feel too... it's just hard to re-watch things from 40 years ago with today's perspective |
| [22:27:26] | skd5aner: | some things are timeless and classic – others... just, were right for their time and place |
| [22:27:32] | stuartm: | skd5aner: Panasonic GX1 – micro four thirds |
| [22:28:43] | stuartm: | when budget allows, may replace it with a GX7 – not tempted to go with a larger Canikon atm |
| [22:29:26] | skd5aner: | ah, nice... I've been wondering if I would ever want to get an interchangle lense camera like that... but... I'm pretty happy with my DSLR (Nikon D7000) and my point and shoot fills in the gaps (Canon SX230 HS) |
| [22:29:48] | skd5aner: | I've even succomb to accepting my camera phone as a way to get on-the-fly pics of the family |
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| [22:31:19] | justinh: | I've been amazed by how good the video taking of my phone is.. 720p at 30fps.. even rolling shutter isn't much of a problem – and colour rendition – it needs less correction than my 'proper' camcorder |
| [22:31:48] | skd5aner: | I've always preferred Nikons in SLR, but got hooked on Canon's point-and-shoot cameras... really didn't like the Nikon point and shoots as much... and REALLY hated the Olympus ones |
| [22:32:35] | stuartm: | something like the GX1 (with EVF) or GX7 is for me a perfect compromise on portability vs image quality – it's right up there with the features and quality of a mid-level Canon/Nikon but with the right lens it's pocket-able |
| [22:32:38] | skd5aner: | and, the Sonys are... Sonys |
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| [22:33:48] | stuartm: | and I quite like the 2x crop factor, which means my tiny, lightweight 300mm lens packs the same punch as a huge, heavy 600mm on a full frame body |
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| [22:35:42] | stuartm: | although I wouldn't mind it if Panny/Olympus/Leica/Kodak/Other were to produce a faster 300mm for m4/3, this winter light is a killer |
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| [22:40:26] | stuartm: | justinh: the 'camcorders' at this point are pretty much deliberately crippled, any half decent bridge camera, CSC or DSLR will wipe the floor with them – partly down to the sensor size, but mostly because that's where companies are investing the research budgets |
| [22:41:02] | justinh: | my camcorder is about 4 years old now |
| [22:41:19] | justinh: | I doubt I'll replace it with anything but a DSLR |
| [22:41:45] | justinh: | but 4 years ago a DSLR which could do good video was ££££ |
| [22:42:40] | justinh: | it takes okay video, but the auto white balance is just drunk |
| [22:44:52] | stuartm: | in fact proper tv/film cameras are facing competition from the CSC/DSLRs such as the Panasonic GH3 which they actually designed for TV/Film makers first, photographers second – http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/08/ . . . e-yes-but-th |
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| [22:51:09] | stuartm: | it's crazy really, but professionals are actually filming for TV/Film/Adverts/Music Videos on gear designed for consumers and often it's indistinguishable from the high end kit – usually the stumbling point is dynamic range, the range on something like the BlackMagic Pocket is incredible by comparison |
| [22:51:17] | stuartm: | http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/b . . . cinemacamera |
| [22:53:49] | stuartm: | not that I'm suggesting you spend £650 on a camera body just for videos of the kids :) |
| [22:54:24] | justinh: | whoah is that all it is?! awesome |
| [22:54:58] | justinh: | external mic input, manual everything... |
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| [22:55:44] | justinh: | less lens of course, but it's still on a little less than double what I paid for my panasonic sd60 |
| [22:57:45] | stuartm: | yeah, depending on the lens you're looking at between £100–400 (new) – but you can use a lot of old second hand lenses in pretty much any mount with an adapter if you're comfortable with fully manual aperture/focus |
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| [22:59:57] | justinh: | how many DSLRs have external mic & headphone jacks for that money? good audio is essential |
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| [23:00:56] | justinh: | I was on a tight budget when I bought my 'corder so consequently the audio really suffers. I usually just leave the audio out of my hoem movies |
| [23:00:57] | stuartm: | for that? not many it has to be said |
| [23:01:10] | stuartm: | not with video that comes anywhere close |
| [23:01:45] | stuartm: | even against the GH3 which is a stills/video that's actually a great price |
| [23:02:30] | stuartm: | although I've no clue whether the Black Magic is actually capable of stills, it's a video camera first and foremost |
| [23:04:15] | justinh: | doesn't look like it |
| [23:06:42] | stuartm: | there used to be some example footage floating around (for download, rather than compressed to buggery flash streaming crap) |
| [23:12:56] | stuartm: | hmm, you know I'm actually considering whether I'd get the use from one. I baulked at the price, but I'm quite prepared to spend more on the GX7 for stills, so why not? I'd be able to re-use all my existing lenses ... |
| [23:15:24] | stuartm: | the reason why I wouldn't is the realisation that I just don't have the time to be editing video and what would be the point of recording such high quality footage if you don't then do anything with it? |
| [23:16:22] | justinh: | editing isn't so bad. I still use sony vegas. It's the encoding that takes ages |
| [23:18:34] | justinh: | I found that editing on my quad core desktop machine at home was very variable in terms of performance during preview playback.. then I made the preview window much bigger. Suddenly now it'll do best quality preview renders at 25fps |
| [23:18:50] | justinh: | bigger window == better performance? :-O |
| [23:20:37] | stuartm: | may be some quirk in the way they render |
| [23:20:56] | justinh: | or just crappy onboard nvidia |
| [23:21:09] | justinh: | oops I said crappy & nvidia in the same sentence |
| [23:21:35] | justinh: | it's pre VDPAU anyway |
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| [23:55:57] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I follow a photographer who does lots of music video productions and almost all of his video is now shot on DLSRs – amazing |
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