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| [00:08:14] | mikeyandmary: | Hello, is there a way to lookup movie metadata using the TMDB number rather than the "automatic" Retrieve Details option? I am using 0.27 and have some movies that the tmdb3.py script can't look up because it causes a "list out of range" error. Thanks |
| [00:12:13] | wagnerrp: | sounds like an error that has since been fixed |
| [00:12:17] | wagnerrp: | try updating 0.27 |
| [00:12:33] | wagnerrp: | and to answer your question directly, i believe it is in the 'i' menu |
| [00:14:40] | mikeyandmary: | It used to be in the i menu but it's hasn't been there since I upgraded to 0.27. I thought I have the current version. I pressed "about" in mythtv and it says Revision:v0.27-125-g7f548de Branch: fixes/0.27 |
| [00:17:16] | mikeyandmary: | Also, I thought tmdb3.py was the problem so I downloaded the latest version but nothing changed. |
| [00:19:35] | wagnerrp: | downloaded the latest version? |
| [00:22:46] | wagnerrp: | anyway, that issue should be fixed as of +109... http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/myt . . . 810c6133aa29 |
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| [00:23:37] | mikeyandmary: | I googled and followed this... askubuntu.com/questions/346542/how-to-get-mythtv-to-use-tmdb-version-3-api |
| [00:24:40] | wagnerrp: | the correct answer to that question is "use mythtv 0.26 or newer" |
| [00:29:42] | wagnerrp: | mikeyandmary: if you're still having that problem post 109, what specific movie are you searching for? |
| [00:33:57] | mikeyandmary: | South Pacific (TMDB#17352), Red Dog (TMDB#66125). Whenever I search for these ubuntu tells me that tmdb3.py has crashed and the error is list index out of range |
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| [00:35:47] | wagnerrp: | works fine here |
| [00:35:59] | wagnerrp: | looks like by following those instructions, you in fact broke things |
| [00:36:33] | wagnerrp: | because you grabbed an older version of the script prior to the fix here... http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/myt . . . 810c6133aa29 |
| [00:38:29] | mikeyandmary: | what would need to be reinstalled to fix it? Can I get the latest tmdb3.py and replace the one that's currently being used? |
| [00:39:37] | wagnerrp: | this is the current version of that script... http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/plain/myth . . . h=fixes/0.27 |
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| [00:41:28] | wagnerrp: | i must have 50 reputation to comment... |
| [00:41:42] | wagnerrp: | how am i supposed to get reputation if i cannot comment? |
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| [00:42:29] | afpup: | good wishes? |
| [00:45:04] | no_name: | could someone help me out with a problem I have with transcoding? here's a dump of all of the command lines I'm using and their output: http://pastebin.com/qSEQsY1j |
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| [00:47:18] | no_name: | should I try to use projectx instead? |
| [00:53:52] | wagnerrp: | you may want to try a newer version of mythtranscode |
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| [00:56:49] | no_name: | oh! okay |
| [00:56:55] | no_name: | I just installed via ubuntu packages |
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| [00:57:09] | no_name: | didn't realize it was an old version |
| [00:57:18] | wagnerrp: | lossless clipping in mythtranscode periodically breaks and gets fixed |
| [00:58:08] | no_name: | any specific versions you might recommend? |
| [00:58:21] | wagnerrp: | 0.27? |
| [00:58:41] | no_name: | what's weird is that I'm pretty sure I'm running 0.27.. not sure why mythtranscode is old |
| [00:59:34] | no_name: | oh I guess I'm not |
| [00:59:47] | no_name: | huh.. the mythbuntu package is running a fixed version of 0.25.2... |
| [01:01:00] | wagnerrp: | using the default repository, on mythbuntu 12.04 |
| [01:02:14] | no_name: | yeah.. it doesn't use 0.27 until 13.10 |
| [01:02:32] | no_name: | not really feeling like upgrading my main machine over that package.. hrms.. |
| [01:02:43] | tgm4883: | no_name, you don't have to |
| [01:02:45] | skd5aner: | well, you can backport the mythbuntu repositories |
| [01:02:58] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, backport the repositories? |
| [01:03:18] | skd5aner: | well, I meant that the repositories support previous versions of ubuntu :) |
| [01:03:19] | tgm4883: | *cough* http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos *cough* |
| [01:03:24] | no_name: | it's not a dependancy hell if I try to install updated mythbuntu packages? |
| [01:03:43] | skd5aner: | tgm4883: just spewing out nonsense, I'm sick and it's been a long day! :) |
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| [01:03:55] | tgm4883: | no_name, there is literally a build of 0.27 for 12.04 maintained by the Mythbuntu team |
| [01:03:59] | andyman53: | Hey all |
| [01:04:21] | andyman53: | i can't seem to get my Ceton Infini TV to tune anymore |
| [01:04:21] | no_name: | oh.. I see... |
| [01:04:32] | skd5aner: | tgm4883: so, cut me a break ;) |
| [01:04:55] | andyman53: | i don't see anything in the logs, i can tune via the web interface and capture via the device into a file |
| [01:04:58] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, will do ;) |
| [01:07:09] | no_name: | ok.. so I installed originally with the mythbuntu-control-centre... will I break everything (e.g. my database) by upgrading? |
| [01:07:27] | no_name: | and how do I point to the right package to install? |
| [01:07:40] | andyman53: | i've checked both the syslog and the mythbackend logs |
| [01:09:33] | andyman53: | the only thing i see is something about ProcessRequest tv_rec.cpp:2894 (PauseRecorder) – TVRec[1]: PauseRecorder() called with no recorder |
| [01:09:54] | no_name: | how do I upgrade my mythbuntu install? |
| [01:10:12] | tgm4883: | no_name, "After installing the mythbuntu-repos package, you will need to select the MythTV version using the repos tab in the Mythbuntu Control Centre. Then you need to open up Update Manager and check for updates to finish the upgrade." |
| [01:10:24] | skd5aner: | I never get why people insist on running the nouveau driver on a mythtv frontend box |
| [01:10:27] | tgm4883: | no_name, personally, I do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade instead |
| [01:12:40] | andyman53: | i also deleted all the tuners and re created them |
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| [01:17:07] | andyman53: | I've searched, i don't know what else to do |
| [01:17:10] | unknown-owner: | hi all, was wondering if anyone can help shed some light on my problem. I have a htpc with the Ceton 4 PCIe with a Comcast cablecard that I can't for the life of me get any livetv. It appears to be working correctly as it sees all my 555 channels but all I get is a this message when I tune to any channel: Signal Lock 100% | (TL_ ) Partial Lock |
| [01:17:28] | andyman53: | I get that too |
| [01:17:35] | andyman53: | thats what happens, it just says TL partial lock |
| [01:18:19] | unknown-owner: | My system with the same hardware works with WMC (I reloaded a backuped image to verifiy). LiveTV works in WMC but not Mythtv |
| [01:18:46] | unknown-owner: | glad to see I'm not the only one getting this error. |
| [01:20:13] | unknown-owner: | I've been trying to solve this for 2 weeks on my own but no luck. Decided to come on here and see if anyone can help. I have downgraded and upgraded the firmware on my ceton, still nothing. |
| [01:20:22] | andyman53: | same here |
| [01:20:26] | andyman53: | i've been searching for weeks |
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| [01:21:09] | andyman53: | any chan ops? |
| [01:21:11] | andyman53: | please |
| [01:21:30] | unknown-owner: | I also can't get the mplayer to stream to try to see if that works. I just get this when it reached 19% or so: Cache not filling, consider increasing -cache and/or -cache-min! |
| [01:21:59] | andyman53: | if you cat the device to mplayer it works |
| [01:22:19] | andyman53: | cat /dev/ctn_xxx | mplayer |
| [01:22:24] | andyman53: | thats after you tune it on the web interface |
| [01:22:30] | unknown-owner: | you mean this? cat /dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg0_0 | mplayer -cache 8192 - |
| [01:22:37] | unknown-owner: | doens't work for me |
| [01:22:53] | andyman53: | do you do it as mythtv? |
| [01:23:13] | unknown-owner: | no let me try now |
| [01:23:56] | andyman53: | try as root also |
| [01:24:02] | andyman53: | stat the device and see if its 777 |
| [01:24:06] | andyman53: | or who its owned as |
| [01:25:44] | unknown-owner: | root owns mplayer and I get same Cache filling error no matter who I run as (root or mythtv or other admin in mythtv group) |
| [01:30:28] | andyman53: | did you tune to the channel first via 192.168.200.1? |
| [01:30:56] | andyman53: | for mpeg0_0 thats tuner 1, then go to tuner, set it to a channel you know you get and then go back and cat the device |
| [01:32:47] | unknown-owner: | yeah did that. tried different channels too |
| [01:35:27] | andyman53: | strange |
| [01:35:41] | unknown-owner: | does yours work with WMC? |
| [01:36:11] | andyman53: | no idea, i run linux solely |
| [01:37:10] | unknown-owner: | if you could, you could image your linux system then install Win7 just to try WMC. At least this way if it works, you'd have peace of mine the hardware is working |
| [01:38:04] | unknown-owner: | I did this to very that I'm getting a good signal from Comcast and can view Livetv with the cablecard and tuner |
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| [01:39:20] | unknown-owner: | Mythtv has been kicking my a$$ trying to figure out this TL_ partial lock. Someone pointed me to this site but I can't really tell if the TL_ is a good thing or not: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_tuning |
| [01:39:36] | andyman53: | I know it works because I can do the capture from mplayer |
| [01:40:13] | unknown-owner: | ah ok. maybe I should try to get the capture working. What distro are you using? |
| [01:40:17] | andyman53: | are you the originator of this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/560541&nbs p;? |
| [01:40:21] | andyman53: | fc19 |
| [01:40:31] | andyman53: | ** fc 18 |
| [01:40:41] | unknown-owner: | yeah that's me |
| [01:41:57] | unknown-owner: | I'm using mythbuntu 12.04 |
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| [01:54:21] | andyman53: | halp... |
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| [02:05:12] | tonsofpcs: | TimeWolf___: where? |
| [02:06:31] | andyman53: | . |
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| [03:03:20] | jevidl: | Perhaps someone can weigh in for me; I'd like to use MythTV to record shows, transcode them, and then re-distribute them vial DLNA. Is there a way to automate nuvexport short of writing a custom script? |
| [03:03:46] | jevidl: | it appears, as far as I can tell from the docs, to be an interactive script that will let me manually do this task |
| [03:04:41] | [R]: | there are various scripts for user jobs on the wiki |
| [03:05:36] | jevidl: | ok, [R], I'll check there |
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| [03:14:36] | jevidl: | [R], found some promising things there, thanks for pointing me to the scripts. |
| [03:14:55] | Hydr0p0nX: | anyone run mythbuntu w/ pre-release packages? |
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| [05:17:56] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX, you mean the 0.28 builds? |
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| [07:59:08] | Zenther: | Hello, I am using arch and having a problem at times with 0 byte file recordings. |
| [08:00:08] | lautriv: | i have 2 questions about certain delays. for one, if i change the channel on a frontend, it may take a whole minute or even forever where i don't see "please wait" on screen. and the other delay is when a running (live-tv) showing comes to the end of its session, it'll freeze for a minute most likely not getting some joke or important ending from the showing. |
| [08:00:44] | lautriv: | Zenther, did your 0B result even if you have it scheduled on backend ? |
| [08:01:39] | Zenther: | lautriv, yes, if I am in mythtv it seems to record fine, but if I am not running the frontend then the backend shcedule 'starts' it but results in a 0 byte file I think |
| [08:02:17] | lautriv: | Zenther, how many tuners/transponders ? |
| [08:02:17] | Zenther: | 2 tuner card in use |
| [08:02:52] | lautriv: | Zenther, did you select "any" for the schedules transponder ? |
| [08:03:27] | Zenther: | where is that setting? |
| [08:06:37] | lautriv: | Zenther, do you schedule via mythweb ? |
| [08:08:10] | Zenther: | I dont have mythweb currently set up |
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| [08:08:41] | Zenther: | no, I schedule inside the front end hitting s to bring up the schedule the r to record |
| [08:09:02] | Zenther: | front end resides on same backend machine |
| [08:09:03] | lautriv: | Zenther, just asked because it is a bit hidden there, should be obvious via the frontend. |
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| [08:11:44] | lautriv: | Zenther, it may happen your preferred card is not useable because used otherwise ( throwed a message on earlier versions not sure about 0.27 ) , maybe you have permission-issues on the place where it tries to write, maybe you have a corrupted DB. |
| [08:13:40] | Zenther: | I don't see where I can set it but in the manage recording rules for the few I have it is set to Any |
| [08:14:11] | lautriv: | that reduces point 1 |
| [08:14:34] | lautriv: | now check perms on your recording-dir. |
| [08:14:35] | Zenther: | I am saving to an ntfs disk here's my fstab line: UUID=7EE34D96395A99E0 /mnt/DataDrive ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF8,rw 0 0 |
| [08:15:03] | lautriv: | Zenther, you know NTFS doesn't handle any permissions ? |
| [08:15:24] | lautriv: | Zenther, is this drive even mounted as user mythtv ? |
| [08:15:30] | Zenther: | need it accessable from a windows drive too so I use ntfs |
| [08:16:16] | Zenther: | at one time I remember having a user= something or another on that line |
| [08:16:41] | Zenther: | but it isn't currently there... Live TV seems to record fine |
| [08:16:55] | Zenther: | but again, I have mythfrontend running then |
| [08:17:33] | lautriv: | Zenther, is the drive health ? |
| [08:17:44] | Zenther: | by record, I mean it saves the current one I am watching fine in a different directory |
| [08:17:56] | Zenther: | drive health is good |
| [08:18:53] | lautriv: | what winbloes |
| [08:19:03] | Zenther: | it is just that if I don't have the frontend running the backend doesn't record and save it... open the frontend and the entry is a 0 byte file. |
| [08:19:11] | Zenther: | win7 |
| [08:20:15] | lautriv: | and what linux ? |
| [08:20:23] | Zenther: | arch |
| [08:20:54] | lautriv: | pff, should have mentioned that earlier. |
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| [08:23:03] | Zenther: | in setup , manage recordings, previously recorded menu it lists them, under the ones that are 0 byte I see they are red and it says recorder failed. |
| [08:23:54] | lautriv: | Zenther, does your backend start while booting ? |
| [08:24:14] | Zenther: | yes, it is a systemd service |
| [08:24:47] | lautriv: | urgh, poettered also .... do you use any other capturing service ? |
| [08:25:03] | Zenther: | no, only the one card |
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| [08:27:06] | Zenther: | and in myth-setup in the Video Source Setup Tuner 1 has EIT for schedule, and Tuner 2 has No grabber. Before I had this issue and found that if both were set to EIT it could do this. But it is doing it anyways this time too. |
| [08:27:33] | lautriv: | Zenther, check dmesg , either you doesn't a clean shutdown or your tuners were kicked. |
| [08:28:52] | lautriv: | Zenther, i assume you do DVB-S/C/T ? |
| [08:29:18] | Zenther: | Not sure what that exactly is... LOL |
| [08:30:32] | Zenther: | -T I guess, antennae |
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| [08:31:18] | lautriv: | Zenther, Digital-Video-Broadcasting |
| [08:31:58] | lautriv: | Zenther, where -T would be terrestriel ( no dish, no cable) |
| [08:32:07] | lautriv: | *rial |
| [08:32:08] | Zenther: | right, -T |
| [08:32:19] | Zenther: | I knew the DVB part |
| [08:32:30] | lautriv: | ok, maybe your have a bad signal-strenght ? |
| [08:33:01] | Zenther: | maybe, I know sometimes it takes a bit to get a lock |
| [08:33:25] | Zenther: | on some channels, and some days depending on weather or something it might not lock |
| [08:34:57] | lautriv: | that alone may be a good reason, another would be a locked tuner. ( not that lock from myth but some kind of "in use" resp. " stalled/crashed" device ) |
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| [08:36:03] | Zenther: | well, one recording that has failed twice is on a channel I don't think I have had an issue with though... |
| [08:38:01] | lautriv: | Zenther, you may check if that 0B happens on a spoecific ( or several specific) channels |
| [08:38:17] | Zenther: | getting them on two |
| [08:39:30] | lautriv: | always those 2 and no other ? |
| [08:40:18] | Zenther: | no others but I don't have a large recurring list. |
| [08:40:55] | Zenther: | other times on same channels it did record but might be because I was watching them on the frontend while it recorded |
| [08:41:11] | Zenther: | same shows |
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| [08:46:02] | Zenther: | you aren't by chance knowledgable on mceusb remotes are you? I cannot get mine working on this new system where it works in win7 and before on the old system just fine. |
| [08:46:49] | Zenther: | lirc that is. It gets recognized and loads the modules but irw and ir-keytable -t has no output when I press keys. |
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| [09:14:48] | lautriv: | Zenther, those thingies aren't really IR-receiver in the lirc sense but HID devices ( like a keyboard ) |
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| [13:50:01] | stuartm: | need some ideas – bought a discrete graphics card to replace the on-board one, when it's plugged in one of my two tv tuners (Nova-T 500) stops working, it's visible to the system but it's as though the driver can't see it – what might be the problem? |
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| [14:21:52] | andyman53: | Hey all |
| [14:22:14] | andyman53: | I'm having a bit of trouble getting mythtv to tune with my ceton infinitv pcie card |
| [14:23:06] | andyman53: | i can capture via cat /dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg0_0 | mplayer -cache 8192 – after tuning via the web interface |
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| [14:25:10] | andyman53: | but I just get 100% TL Partial Lock |
| [14:25:38] | stuartm: | OK, new question – how can I stop the system putting all the PCI/PCI-E cards on the same interrupt? |
| [14:26:58] | stuartm: | interrupt table looks like this – http://pastebin.com/s0HHfM6q |
| [14:27:53] | stuartm: | toggling bios/OS control of interrupts in the bios makes no difference, although there are unused interrupts (e.g. 13) |
| [14:29:18] | Jay2k1: | you can't manually assign interrupts in the BIOS i take it? |
| [14:31:44] | stuartm: | not fine-grained, it gives the option to 'reserve' each interrupt, or to assign it to a PCI device – all 6/7 (or more) are set to 'PCI Device' but it's still lumping everything together on the one interrupt |
| [14:33:31] | danielk22: | stuartm: I'm not really up on PCIe but I thought it was possible for Linux to assign the interrupts on modern HW |
| [14:33:35] | stuartm: | could see what happens if I 'reserve' them all instead – it's not very clear what it actually means by that, I assumed it reserved those IRQs for non-pci, i.e. OS assigned IRQs |
| [14:34:04] | stuartm: | danielk22: that's what I thought, but I get the same result with both bios assigned and kernel assign IRQ |
| [14:35:24] | danielk22: | stuartm: You could try juggling where the cards are physically plugged in. |
| [14:35:52] | andyman53: | Jay2k1: danielk22 have you heard of a problem of people tuning Ceton Infini TV cards in mythtv, but are able to capture them fine outside mythtv? |
| [14:35:54] | stuartm: | already tried that, there's only one free PCI slot so there's not a lot of scope for variation |
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| [14:36:36] | Jay2k1: | andyman53: unfortunately not |
| [14:36:52] | danielk22: | andyman53: Nope. Is this the original card? I'm using one of those here with the logging branch. (last merged shortly before 0.27) |
| [14:37:08] | andyman53: | It is, was working fine for months |
| [14:37:22] | stuartm: | beating my head against the wall at this point – already thrown away good money on a new PSU that it turns out wasn't needed, now I'm faced with potentially having to buy a new motherboard (which means new cpu/ram too), a cheap upgrade is turning into a very expensive one |
| [14:38:00] | Jay2k1: | stuartm: what's the actual problem? |
| [14:38:26] | andyman53: | stuartm: what is your rationale for wanting to change this? |
| [14:39:01] | stuartm: | Jay2k1: tuners aren't working since installing the graphics card – at least one is giving IRQ errors in dmesg, the other just isn't being recognised by the driver |
| [14:39:22] | Tobbe5178: | do mythtv cache the fanart and cover art anywhere else than the respective folders specifide in the setup? |
| [14:39:28] | andyman53: | Unless you're facing a head-on blaring functionality loss, you're not going to see much performance gains |
| [14:40:18] | stuartm: | andyman53: the loss of all my tuners definitely falls into that category |
| [14:40:44] | andyman53: | can you pastebin an lspci? |
| [14:40:49] | Jay2k1: | hehe |
| [14:41:13] | Jay2k1: | in the bios there could be an option to re-assign irq numbers to all the devices |
| [14:41:18] | stuartm: | andyman53: standard output, or -v (vv)? |
| [14:41:30] | andyman53: | one v couldn't hurt |
| [14:42:20] | andyman53: | stuartm: you also might want to look into a bios firmware upgrade, this sounds like a bug. IRQ's have been plug and play since Y2K |
| [14:42:20] | stuartm: | Jay2k1: will go back to the bios, see what else I can, whether there are more onboard devices I can disable too which may free up some IRQs and let it do the right thing (disabled most things already) |
| [14:42:26] | andyman53: | ... that ryhmes ... |
| [14:42:31] | stuartm: | andyman53: latest bios |
| [14:42:35] | andyman53: | :( |
| [14:42:52] | stuartm: | and if I let the OS control the IRQs the same thing happens |
| [14:43:08] | andyman53: | well lets see what lspci says |
| [14:43:26] | stuartm: | http://pastebin.com/RJ7B9G0w |
| [14:44:45] | stuartm: | the second tuner shows up there as a USB controller, the via one iirc, since it's a USB-on-PCI one (Nova-T 500) |
| [14:45:48] | stuartm: | as you can see, they are all on IRQ 19 |
| [14:46:41] | andyman53: | do an lsmod also |
| [14:46:58] | Tobbe5178: | fyi multiple devices on the same irq is normal |
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| [14:49:04] | Tobbe5178: | "cat /proc/interrupts" to see all of them and what is being used by what |
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| [14:52:39] | andyman53: | danielk22: any next steps? I've been troubleshooting this for a month |
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| [14:55:19] | Tobbe5178: | stuartm: some modern mainboards may have one of those new features i think it is called optimus or something similar that makes it possible for windows to dynamicaly switch between built in and add on gfx card, i think this feature dont work very well with linux, perhaps you can turn this off in the bios |
| [14:55:37] | stuartm: | apologies for the abrupt departure, unloaded the wrong module, crash the kernel and had to reboot |
| [14:55:43] | Tobbe5178: | and another thing, i dont think you can stop the computer from allocating same irq to multiple devices |
| [14:55:53] | Tobbe5178: | since it is done by design |
| [14:55:56] | stuartm: | Tobbe5178: it's a few years old now |
| [14:56:04] | Tobbe5178: | true |
| [14:56:39] | stuartm: | the motherboard that is, doesn't support optimus |
| [14:57:13] | Tobbe5178: | but sharing irq i believe also means all drivers and hw needs to play nice that uses the same irq |
| [14:57:23] | Tobbe5178: | ok |
| [14:57:37] | stuartm: | well tried everything possible in the bios, guess I'm screwed |
| [14:58:00] | Tobbe5178: | you dont happen to have both the opensource and binary driver for the nvidia card running at the same time? |
| [14:58:05] | Tobbe5178: | for example during boot |
| [14:58:13] | stuartm: | nope |
| [14:58:29] | Tobbe5178: | i believe they dont play nice and i had to add some options to grup to force it off |
| [14:58:38] | Tobbe5178: | grub |
| [15:00:23] | Tobbe5178: | what if you dont load the nvidia driver at all just for testing purposes |
| [15:00:44] | Tobbe5178: | or uninstall it |
| [15:00:48] | Tobbe5178: | temporarily |
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| [15:17:42] | andyman53: | Ceton Infinitv 4 tuning problems anyone? |
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| [15:34:24] | stuartm: | well, crap :( |
| [15:35:45] | stuartm: | either I go begging to buy a new motherboard etc, or I try to return this stuff to Amazon and pretend it never happened :) |
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| [15:36:42] | stuartm: | we need a MythTV developer hardship fund ;) |
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| [16:10:56] | no_name: | could someone help me out upgrading what version of mythbuntu I'm running? I tried selecting 0.27 in mythbuntu-control-center and then doing an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and the tools still say that they are 0.25 |
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| [16:16:06] | no_name: | nevermind, figured it out |
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| [16:33:55] | andyman53: | ceton help? |
| [16:36:20] | ctmjr: | stuartm: a shot in the dark but you never know http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Common_Problem:_vmalloc_too_small |
| [16:40:49] | stuartm: | ctmjr: thanks, it's not the issue here though, the drivers load fine, but one complains of IRQ errors (which lockup the driver and anything using it) and the other fails to find the tuner entirely |
| [16:42:11] | stuartm: | assuming at this stage that it's a motherboard issue, although before that I was convinced it was a power issue so ... |
| [16:43:11] | stuartm: | it would be great if it was software, but I'm not finding anything relevant via google |
| [16:45:44] | stuartm: | I've just read about there's one bios related option which I've not tried, but I've spent enough time on it today so I'll give that a go tomorrow, not expecting it to help |
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| [16:46:32] | andyman53: | help anyone? |
| [16:46:33] | andyman53: | please |
| [16:46:39] | jheizer_: | Hey, I am trying to help my Dad set up a HD Prime remotely. The tech gave up and left. |
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| [16:47:05] | jheizer_: | Charter cable, and as best I can tell the cable card is activated and working, but the tuning adapter is not. Log here http://pastebin.com/z3Ryhuw8 |
| [16:47:29] | jheizer_: | Is there anything I can do for that or is he stuck waiting for them? |
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| [16:56:39] | gregL: | jheizer, You might better try the Mythtv mailing list.. I have seen many cable card problems resolved there... |
| [16:58:21] | jheizer: | Yeah, was already in #mythtv so thought I may try here first. You would think this should not be this hard for the companies to setup correctly. |
| [17:00:02] | gregL: | jheizer, They only understand their system and nothing else.. Good luck.. |
| [17:01:29] | mengoshmink: | hmm I'm still having mythvideo metadata problems but I may re-install mythtv encase I accidently removed something |
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| [17:02:40] | jheizer: | gregL, thanks |
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| [17:41:47] | TimeWolf___: | tonsofpcs trying to use ATSC on the 5th floor of a nyc building |
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| [17:50:20] | andyman53: | should I just email the mythtv list? |
| [17:50:32] | andyman53: | i thought the same people would be idling in here |
| [17:51:52] | mengoshmink: | who are you talking to andyman53? |
| [17:53:08] | andyman53: | everyone |
| [17:53:18] | andyman53: | i've been talking to the channel collectively since last night |
| [17:53:31] | mengoshmink: | ah |
| [17:53:51] | mengoshmink: | I would guess no one has seen / recogised your problem |
| [17:54:24] | andyman53: | am I more likely to get a response on the mailing list? |
| [17:54:26] | mengoshmink: | I have found if it something someone may have an idea about they say |
| [17:54:29] | mengoshmink: | no idea |
| [17:55:22] | andyman53: | my ceton infinitv 4 card stopped tuning via mythtv, but it can capture if i pipe the device output to mplayer after tuning with the web interface |
| [17:55:39] | andyman53: | the only I error I get is fairly benign about pausing recorders that don't exist |
| [17:56:13] | andyman53: | its been like this for a month |
| [17:56:18] | andyman53: | is there like an escalation? |
| [17:57:17] | mengoshmink: | maybe a daft question but does the user running mythbackend have access to the adapters? |
| [17:57:53] | andyman53: | they're 777 |
| [17:58:08] | mengoshmink: | hmm |
| [17:58:26] | mengoshmink: | which distro? |
| [17:58:38] | andyman53: | fc18 |
| [17:58:40] | mengoshmink: | who is the owner / group? |
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| [17:58:52] | andyman53: | the device is owned by root/root |
| [17:59:20] | mengoshmink: | and mythbacked is running as root? |
| [17:59:43] | mengoshmink: | I'll just check something |
| [17:59:51] | andyman53: | mythbackend is running as mythtv |
| [18:00:06] | moparisthebest: | anyone have any idea if this will work in linux/mythtv: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100074 |
| [18:00:27] | moparisthebest: | it's a network ATSC tuner with IR blaster and s-video in for $25 |
| [18:00:39] | moparisthebest: | but I can't find a mention of it anywhere with regards to linux :( |
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| [18:01:19] | andyman53: | another unprivileged user 'andrew' can cat the device after tuning and get output |
| [18:01:44] | andyman53: | i can't su to mythtv because its login shell is set to /bin/false or something |
| [18:01:51] | andyman53: | i figure thats for good reason |
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| [18:05:40] | mengoshmink: | ok, found it |
| [18:06:16] | mengoshmink: | I'm pretty sure I get a problem in mythsetup if the user running it can not access the device, eg if it owned by root |
| [18:06:22] | mengoshmink: | chgrp video -R /dev/dvb/ |
| [18:06:22] | mengoshmink: | usermod -a -G video mengoshmink |
| [18:06:54] | mengoshmink: | however wagnerrp reminded me the dangers of running things as root and advised that the backend should be running as the user mythtv |
| [18:07:03] | moparisthebest: | andyman53: you can su to any other user regardless of shell |
| [18:07:08] | moparisthebest: | sudo su mythtv -s /bin/bash |
| [18:07:20] | moparisthebest: | -s specifies the shell you would like to use |
| [18:07:36] | andyman53: | ah |
| [18:07:45] | mengoshmink: | http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16370 |
| [18:08:36] | andyman53: | mythtv is in the video group |
| [18:09:00] | andyman53: | should I chown mythtv:video the devices? |
| [18:09:12] | andyman53: | they are 777 after all |
| [18:09:34] | mengoshmink: | 777 is not good |
| [18:10:31] | mengoshmink: | mine is 440 I think |
| [18:10:39] | mengoshmink: | with video as the group |
| [18:10:47] | mengoshmink: | root as the owner |
| [18:10:47] | andyman53: | it gets a little hairy because the ceton is an actual linux host itself with an IP address on a different subnet |
| [18:11:00] | andyman53: | it gets an ethernet device ctn0 |
| [18:12:01] | andyman53: | if an unprivileged user can cat the data stream, mythtv should be able to also |
| [18:12:07] | andyman53: | (after tuning) |
| [18:12:36] | mengoshmink: | not if the mythtv user has lower access then the other user |
| [18:13:09] | andyman53: | let me try moparisthebest 's suggestion and specify the shell in the su |
| [18:13:45] | mengoshmink: | I'm not sure but the user may also need a home dir etc |
| [18:14:12] | mengoshmink: | I'm sorry, I'm not helping / explaining well because I'm trying to do a job application |
| [18:15:10] | jams: | Andyman53, are you accessing the local ctn device or via the ip? |
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| [18:15:30] | andyman53: | s'ok |
| [18:15:34] | jams: | it's my understanding that the preferred way with the ceton is to use rtsp with mythtv |
| [18:15:35] | andyman53: | in mythsetup, via the ip |
| [18:15:43] | jams: | good |
| [18:16:40] | jams: | then what device are you checking permissions on? |
| [18:17:16] | andyman53: | lag |
| [18:17:18] | andyman53: | oops |
| [18:17:48] | andyman53: | /dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg_0_0 |
| [18:17:58] | andyman53: | the slash kept being interpreted as an irc command :-\ |
| [18:18:05] | jams: | hehe that it will |
| [18:18:21] | jams: | do that device is not used by mythtv if your accessing the ctn via ip |
| [18:18:39] | andyman53: | oh |
| [18:19:05] | jams: | rtsp access is purely over IP |
| [18:19:28] | andyman53: | <---- should know that with an IPT background |
| [18:20:12] | jams: | not for sure mythtv even gives the option of accessing the local /dev/ceton device anymore |
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| [18:20:42] | andyman53: | it doesn't, got that from the wiki |
| [18:20:48] | andyman53: | just for testing |
| [18:20:57] | jams: | i see |
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| [18:21:24] | jams: | i can't help with the problem at hand, but thought it was worth mentioning rstp vs local access |
| [18:21:34] | andyman53: | ok |
| [18:21:36] | andyman53: | thanks anyway |
| [18:22:04] | jams: | general question though, does it work outside of mythtv? |
| [18:22:27] | jams: | even using the local /dev/ node |
| [18:22:29] | andyman53: | the only method I tested with was cat'ing the device |
| [18:22:30] | andyman53: | yeah |
| [18:22:35] | andyman53: | that does |
| [18:22:53] | andyman53: | althought its strange, when spawning a new shell it doesn't work |
| [18:23:10] | jams: | and you can change channels via the ctn web interface? |
| [18:23:27] | andyman53: | yeah |
| [18:23:29] | andyman53: | it has the channel map |
| [18:23:42] | andyman53: | but i've been entering in the channel manually |
| [18:23:47] | andyman53: | via links |
| [18:23:55] | jams: | well that does point to a myth problem doesn't it |
| [18:24:23] | andyman53: | even myth says 100% partial lock TL |
| [18:24:32] | andyman53: | gets the channel, and guide data |
| [18:25:31] | jams: | so what part fails again? |
| [18:25:37] | andyman53: | tuning |
| [18:25:50] | andyman53: | it stops at 100% partial lock |
| [18:25:58] | andyman53: | then goes to "you should have received a channel lock by now" |
| [18:26:01] | jams: | i see |
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| [18:31:04] | andyman53: | jams: and this: ProcessRequest tv_rec.cpp:2894 (PauseRecorder) – TVRec[1]: PauseRecorder() called with no recorder |
| [18:31:16] | andyman53: | that's the only error |
| [18:31:46] | jams: | do you have quicktuning enabled? |
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| [18:32:02] | jams: | i would think it should be off |
| [18:32:06] | jams: | which is the default |
| [18:33:09] | jams: | Might be worthwhile to remove all cards and readd them, but thats all I have. |
| [18:34:24] | andyman53: | It's off |
| [18:34:30] | andyman53: | and i've done that several times |
| [18:34:46] | andyman53: | i'll be back in a few |
| [18:34:50] | andyman53: | snowblowing time :| |
| [18:34:50] | MartinT: | is there any benefit to switching from transmitted guide data to XmlTV in the UK? |
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| [18:39:04] | mengoshmink: | I have found sometimes xmltv is sometimes more reliable but not always |
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| [18:50:38] | MartinT: | anyone else got an opinion? |
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| [20:14:53] | TimeWolf___: | I figured out that my cablebox runs a web server, so if I plug it to my network, I can use wget/curl to change channels. I've always used IR so this blew my mind. |
| [20:16:57] | Jay2k1: | cool |
| [20:17:11] | Jay2k1: | i wonder if that should go into the wiki |
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| [20:20:01] | [R]: | which one? |
| [20:21:48] | Jay2k1: | the one on mythtv.org |
| [20:21:59] | [R]: | box |
| [20:22:07] | Jay2k1: | :D |
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| [21:07:25] | buu: | TimeWolf___: Which cable box? |
| [21:07:40] | TimeWolf___: | buu cisco explorer 4642hdc |
| [21:08:04] | buu: | Oh, woah. Cisco makes cable boxes? |
| [21:08:53] | TimeWolf___: | i think its former sci-atlanta |
| [21:09:15] | TimeWolf___: | its like the plainest cablebox twc offers here |
| [21:10:27] | TimeWolf___: | I read something about the ffc requiring that stb's always support external tuning, is that right? |
| [21:11:04] | [R]: | no |
| [21:11:07] | TimeWolf___: | if 1394 works as well as http works for me, it makes IR blasting pretty unreasonable |
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| [21:15:00] | TimeWolf___: | I'm super curious, does anyone else's stb have an ethernet port? |
| [21:16:09] | buu: | I think I gave mine back =[ |
| [21:16:39] | andyman53: | back from shoveling |
| [21:17:17] | andyman53: | so yeah, recap, i can access the tv stream via /dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg0_0 after tuning on the web, but not on mythtv |
| [21:17:41] | andyman53: | i don't know how to test via pure IP (rtp stream) |
| [21:19:29] | TimeWolf___: | ceton still exists? |
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| [21:34:21] | TimeWolf___: | I found some articles that seem to indicate the FCC requires that STB's include either a 1394 or an ethernet port |
| [21:35:11] | TimeWolf___: | there's no specific mention of tuning or that these requirements are actually in effect today, but it's something I would look into if I were currently using an IR blaster |
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| [21:36:22] | TimeWolf___: | here -> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachm . . . 0-1094A1.pdf |
| [21:38:03] | TimeWolf___: | I should post a video of how IP tuning works for me. After, like, 9 years of IR blasting with wintv150,hdpvr,commandir... It just BLEW my mind |
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| [21:39:43] | lautriv: | is there a way to kick mythconverg but hold the channels ? |
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| [22:15:20] | afpup: | SO what are you doing now TimeWolf___? |
| [22:15:40] | TimeWolf___: | afpup nothing, just chilling out with a cup of coffee |
| [22:17:02] | TimeWolf___: | afpup what are you up to? |
| [22:17:59] | afpup: | I meant how are you using myth without hdpvr,commandir,etc/ |
| [22:22:29] | TimeWolf___: | instead of IR blasting, I just have a script that fires a wget command to change channels |
| [22:22:37] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I dont actually use mythtv, I use sagetv |
| [22:25:33] | TimeWolf___: | http://screencloud.net/v/3ZYO |
| [22:29:33] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I still use an hdpvr to capture video, i'm just not using to to blast IR |
| [22:38:01] | afpup: | what kind of box are you controlling via ip? |
| [22:40:12] | MartinT: | can't believe that I've been using the qt paint engine for so long... just switched to opengl... and the animations now seem to work when they didn't before! |
| [22:41:19] | afpup: | I had that happen with one machine: I used to run windows on it, had to use the qt painter, switched to Gentoo, but kept the same hostname, therefore all the old settings stayed in effect... couldn' |
| [22:43:02] | MartinT: | what is everyone using in terms of themes... |
| [22:44:12] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I have a cisco/sci-atlanta explorer 4642hdc that I plugged into my home network |
| [22:46:40] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I plugged it in and found that it was running some web server http://screencloud.net/v/BHpV |
| [22:48:34] | afpup: | wish I could control my dish boxes like that – use a commandIR unit (one of the original ones) and its quite sensitive to issues on the host: eg: won't work with xhci (usb3) driver, even if the port its connected to is using (e|u)hci |
| [22:49:06] | afpup: | actually, won't work reliably would be a better way of phrasing that. |
| [22:49:40] | afpup: | MartinT: MythBuntu on my living room system (WAF), and Media Center Wide on my machine |
| [22:50:22] | afpup: | Media Center Wide is kinda processor heavy, but looks nice – wife just doesn't like the layout of the guide. |
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| [22:50:59] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I started looking into this because my commandir was missing quite a bit |
| [22:52:29] | afpup: | I just dug an old Core2 Quad board out of storage and moved my hdpvr's to that... the dish boxes do have an ethernet port on the back, but never explored the option. |
| [22:53:51] | TimeWolf___: | afpup I'm super curious if other stbs also support the same |
| [22:57:45] | MartinT: | I'm looking for a new theme, but the ones that are available in the ui aren't that appealing... |
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| [23:00:02] | MartinT: | is that the extent of the supported themes? or are there more? |
| [23:04:27] | ctmjr: | MartinT: the posibilities are endless http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development if you have the time |
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| [23:05:07] | MartinT: | ctmjr: already done that... but I'm not a designer ;) |
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| [23:05:45] | MartinT: | I have a customised theme based on arclight, but I though someone might have a better one... |
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| [23:08:11] | afpup: | Looking for maximum graphic effects, or just a nice simple theme? Do you use fanart/coverart/etc? |
| [23:22:47] | tgm4883: | MartinT, don't like Mythbuntu theme? |
| [23:23:02] | MartinT: | nah... |
| [23:23:19] | tgm4883: | what are you looking for? |
| [23:23:29] | MartinT: | afpup: yes I use fanart, |
| [23:23:43] | MartinT: | something flashy, I'm a magpie that way... |
| [23:23:52] | tgm4883: | define flashy |
| [23:24:23] | MartinT: | hard to describe... |
| [23:25:22] | afpup: | The maximum animation effects I've come across so far are in the MythMediaStream – but you *must* change the menu style as well to make it work right. |
| [23:26:14] | tgm4883: | MartinT, that makes it difficult to make a recommendation |
| [23:26:27] | MartinT: | yeah, I tried that one, with the menu |
| [23:26:31] | tgm4883: | MartinT, also, I've found the available animations in mythtv a bit inconsistant and lacking |
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