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| [00:43:35] | robinmholt: | I am trying to run mythtv-setup and add an hdhomerun prime capture source. I do not have (nor really want) a remote, but would rather use the keyboard/mouse my computer already has. |
| [00:44:04] | robinmholt: | When I attempt to change the Card Type, no keystroke seems to allow me to switch to an HDHomeRun device. |
| [00:44:45] | robinmholt: | Any suggestions? I have tried arrows, enter, keypad enter, space, and Ctrl, Alt, Shift combinations of all those keys. |
| [00:45:21] | wagnerrp: | i believe 'c' changes inputs |
| [00:45:35] | wagnerrp: | or you can go into the 'm' menu, and select your input from a list |
| [00:47:12] | robinmholt: | Neither seems to work. I am trying to add a capture card and want to change the card type. |
| [00:49:47] | robinmholt: | I am trying to "pull-down" the Card Type selector. |
| [00:50:49] | robinmholt: | Ah, page up/down... |
| [01:35:56] | buu: | robinmholt: arrow keys worked for me! |
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| [13:00:09] | mycosys: | Happy New Year! |
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| [16:40:32] | skd5aner: | Got to love it when a new machine arrives and it won't even power on :P |
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| [16:56:59] | DavidBrooke: | I feel you! |
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| [16:58:34] | makoto: | hey. slightly funky issue but its one i vaguely recall having back in 2010. went into mythtv-setup and trying to set LNB for my dvbs card, but its coming back with "SiSEqCDevTree: No root device for tree node!" every time despite having an lnb setup |
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| [17:02:32] | makoto: | ok problem solved – set option "-O Theme=MythCenter" and i can save DiSEq settigns now. it kept starting up in that greeny grey theme |
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| [17:05:43] | skd5aner: | yea, got a new zotac zbox as a frontend, dead on arrival :P |
| [17:05:57] | skd5aner: | and of course amazon is out of it now, so I have to return it and buy a new one from newegg instead |
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| [17:15:29] | makoto: | gr |
| [17:15:40] | makoto: | it's scanning for channels now but it's finishing and discarding them |
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| [17:16:55] | mengoshmink: | zotac zbox make good fe's? |
| [17:17:24] | [R]: | is it powerful? |
| [17:17:25] | [R]: | then yes |
| [17:17:30] | mengoshmink: | lol |
| [17:17:33] | mengoshmink: | good point |
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| [17:53:47] | skd5aner: | some zotac's are good candidates for FEs, some are not... |
| [17:54:51] | skd5aner: | one's with nvidia gpu's that can handle vdpau really take a substantial chunk out of the work you'd need the CPU to cover |
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| [18:11:02] | mengoshmink: | I normally go for nvidia gfx although I must admit my current be is an integrated ati thing |
| [18:11:30] | mengoshmink: | anyone about to help with diagnosing a mythvideo metadata problem? |
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| [18:20:15] | mengoshmink: | whenever I press w it fails but I cant find anywhere to see an error |
| [18:20:47] | mengoshmink: | it used to work fine so I am sure I have broken something but I have put everything "right" that I can think of |
| [18:22:48] | wagnerrp: | integrated AMD is perfectly fine, if you're not actually going to use it (dedicated backend) |
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| [18:23:31] | mengoshmink: | indeed, its a dedicated backend for mythtv and other no gui stuff |
| [18:23:38] | mengoshmink: | eg a Call of Duty server :) |
| [18:24:24] | wagnerrp: | it's even fine for general desktop usage |
| [18:24:38] | wagnerrp: | just don't try to do anything hardware accelerated and expect to have a smooth time with it |
| [18:24:45] | mengoshmink: | I have a desktop for desktop stuff |
| [18:25:09] | mengoshmink: | I finally have a job where I could afford to build a decent server and it has been worth every penny |
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| [18:29:09] | mengoshmink: | $ python /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -M Frasier << that works |
| [18:29:15] | mengoshmink: | but inside mythtv, nothing |
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| [18:30:25] | scottwmcgregor: | hey guys... got a weird problem with a ceton PCIe infinitv inside a ubuntu mythtv backend-- it's all set up and I can address the card both via its web interface and via live TV by manually changing inputs (though this is sometimes hit or miss), but mythtv won't use more than one input at a time for recording. Anybody have any advice? |
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| [18:31:31] | wagnerrp: | you've configured the four different tuners separately? |
| [18:31:51] | wagnerrp: | mengoshmink: tmdb3.py is for movies (although it can recently do television) |
| [18:31:55] | wagnerrp: | try ttvdb.py |
| [18:31:57] | scottwmcgregor: | yes... in fact sometimes mythtv will record on ceton3 instead of ceton0, but never two at the same time |
| [18:32:21] | wagnerrp: | did you do something bad with your input groups, so mythtv thinks their use is mutually exclusive? |
| [18:32:28] | scottwmcgregor: | so in upcoming recordings I get conflicts despite theoretically having 4 tuners available |
| [18:32:33] | mengoshmink: | oops, clue was in the path (silly me) |
| [18:32:50] | mengoshmink: | but I get the same result, command line works fine, inside mythtv is a no-go |
| [18:32:50] | scottwmcgregor: | maybe so... how would I know? Does each tuner need a different input group? |
| [18:33:43] | wagnerrp: | input groups are used to define groups of inputs that cannot be used simultaneously |
| [18:33:58] | scottwmcgregor: | holy cow that's probably it |
| [18:33:59] | wagnerrp: | such as both firewire and analog capture from a cable box |
| [18:34:10] | wagnerrp: | if you don't touch them, they should work fine |
| [18:34:14] | scottwmcgregor: | so the ceton tuners should NOT be in a group together |
| [18:34:24] | wagnerrp: | if you did anything with them when configuring your ceton tuners, you did something bad |
| [18:42:51] | mengoshmink: | this gets weirder and weirder, I have noticed tht in the "artwork and metadata" setup screen the slection box television is empty. I don't mean the box and there with nothing in it. I mean the box is empty. |
| [18:59:06] | scottwmcgregor: | I should have come here months ago. wagnerrp, how do I buy you a beer? |
| [18:59:18] | scottwmcgregor: | everything's fixed/working |
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| [19:38:57] | makoto: | hmmmm |
| [19:39:33] | makoto: | just to confirm i'm not going nuts, to set theme, Setup>Theme Chooser and arrow keys down to the one you want, then whack enter? |
| [19:39:40] | makoto: | i can't seem to get it to set themes |
| [19:39:58] | wagnerrp: | try closing the frontend and opening it again. sometimes it doesn't take on its own |
| [19:40:57] | makoto: | that seems to have done it |
| [19:41:00] | makoto: | cheers |
| [19:41:39] | makoto: | the defalt one is a bit meh at 1024x768, UI elements getting messed around and stuff |
| [19:41:53] | makoto: | or well, text cut short |
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| [19:46:56] | justinh: | mnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Darned frontend. It's getting too long in the tooth now. Sometimes it won't boot but more often than that, lirc doesn't come up |
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| [19:55:52] | justinh: | wife just reminded me of another path I never got round do doing.. in mythvideo 'The', 'A' etc are ignored in a sort – but not for folders. Rats |
| [19:56:13] | justinh: | s/path/patch/ |
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| [20:01:56] | ronron261: | hi |
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| [20:06:10] | makoto: | i don't suppose anyone here from the UK has managed to tune DVBS2 to BBC HD channels? I m trying to manally scan but it's not gettting signal :/ |
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| [20:11:57] | ronron261: | @makoto, did you also dop update |
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| [20:11:59] | justinh: | makoto: and you've verified the tuner works in another program first? |
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| [20:20:08] | ronron261: | justinh: I suspect something went wrong with the latest update, i do have some channels, so before going into mythtv-setup I did a upgrade, updated my channels, re-enterd frontend but no tuers availeble |
| [20:20:10] | ronron261: | any idea |
| [20:21:43] | makoto: | ronron261: "dop update"? |
| [20:22:01] | makoto: | you'll have to excuse me, last time i used myth was several years ago |
| [20:24:20] | ronron261: | makoto: no problem, I did mean "do a update" (my typing is not that good) |
| [20:24:25] | makoto: | ah |
| [20:24:53] | makoto: | i let it run mythfilldatabase, if that was what you mean |
| [20:25:12] | makoto: | the issue seems to be it just won't scan for HD channels |
| [20:25:47] | makoto: | that said, when i asked mplayer to scan, that didnt find any bbc hd channels |
| [20:26:03] | makoto: | this calls for a trip downstairs to see if the telly downstairs is too playing ball, i think |
| [20:34:10] | makoto: | peculiar. |
| [20:34:52] | makoto: | tv downstairs has indeed gotr signal, and was helpful enough to list thr frequencies it was tuning to. punch them into mythtv-setup trying to scan it and it just won't get a lock |
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| [20:44:26] | makoto: | PEBKAC... BBC changed from DVB to DVBS2 for their HD streams in 2011.... so it did work back in 2010 when i last tried but since has changed. damn. |
| [20:44:44] | ** makoto is gutted ** | |
| [20:46:19] | prologic: | wagnerrp, https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/commu . . . kages/mythtv <-- Is it necessary to copy over mc.sql and the contrib dir? |
| [20:46:30] | prologic: | wagnerrp, and what's with the arch patch? |
| [20:46:38] | prologic: | Happy New Year too :) |
| [20:46:45] | wagnerrp: | arch patch... no idea |
| [20:47:01] | wagnerrp: | the mc.sql is what you use to create a fresh database on a new install |
| [20:48:45] | prologic: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11338 |
| [20:48:47] | prologic: | blah |
| [20:48:58] | prologic: | who cares about backwards compatibility? |
| [20:49:18] | prologic: | right so mc.sql doesn't need to be copied to /usr/share/mythtv |
| [20:49:28] | prologic: | I don't think my crux port dir any of this |
| [20:49:52] | prologic: | the mythfrontend/mythtv-setup binaries know how to upgrade it's own database like you said right? |
| [20:49:55] | wagnerrp: | not if you don't care about new users |
| [20:50:07] | wagnerrp: | new users need that file |
| [20:51:24] | prologic: | *nods* |
| [20:51:33] | prologic: | ahh hmm |
| [20:51:34] | prologic: | good point |
| [20:51:50] | prologic: | I think I remember having to mysql -u root -p mythtv < /path/to/mc.sql |
| [20:52:01] | prologic: | but I probably did it from a local tarball exract |
| [20:53:17] | prologic: | cool build worked :) |
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| [21:05:24] | ronron261: | did someone have a tunerproblem , — no tuner available --, in the frontend/backend after the last update of mythtv, mythtv-setup is scanning for channels |
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| [21:12:07] | neufeld`: | So, I've finally done the upgrade from 0.25 to 0.27. Some upcoming recordings have been rescheduled to later in the day or week, and I don't see any reason for that to have happened. Channel priorities match, HDTV tags same on both, but somehow it decided to wait for it to play on another channel at a later time. I've turned on verbose scheduling on the backend, but I don't see what's happening. Ideas? |
| [21:26:36] | neufeld`: | I'll ask around in the dev channel. |
| [21:27:51] | justinh: | I wouldn't do that |
| [21:28:40] | neufeld`: | justinh: OK, but something seems weird, I'm thinking I'll have to patch the backend to debug it. The verbose logging isn't showing anything helpful. |
| [21:30:15] | neufeld`: | I had a rule to record a show. It picked an 8:00 showing tonight. After the upgrade, it passed over that showing for one on a different channel at 11:00, pushing another recording that was to occur at 11:00 out a few days into the future. When I add a manual override to tell it to record the 8:00 showing, it decides to record both, and so still doesn't move the other show back to its original slot tonight at |
| [21:30:15] | neufeld`: | 11:00. |
| [21:31:09] | neufeld`: | Nothing weird in the debug-level logs for scheduling |
| [21:31:15] | justinh: | sounds a bit like a Youview recorder |
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| [21:31:41] | neufeld`: | Haven't heard of that. It's straight mythtv, schedulesdirect, HD-PVR. |
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| [21:34:52] | neufeld`: | Both channels have the same recording priority. If I bump the earlier showing channel's priority up by 3, it still doesn't record there. If I bump it up by 4, then the scheduler decides to record that showing instead of the later one. So the scheduler knows about the channel, it just doesn't want to use it. There are no conflicts with the earlier time. |
| [21:35:34] | neufeld`: | Wait, I'll bet I know.... |
| [21:36:23] | neufeld`: | Is program.endtime in UTC now, instead of local time? |
| [21:36:40] | [R]: | yes, the db is in utc |
| [21:37:07] | neufeld`: | I've got a custom priority rule to discourage recordings between 1:30 and 3:00 AM because my cable provider resets the cable box almost every single night around 2:00, corrupting any recordings going on then. |
| [21:37:39] | neufeld`: | So, I've got to figure out how to make that rule into local time, including daylight savings time switches. |
| [21:39:04] | ** neufeld` does a mysqldump and starts reading it ** | |
| [21:44:02] | prologic: | http://codepad.org/rNPn0RWa |
| [21:44:03] | prologic: | <-- perl bindings are entirely optional right? And only needed if you wish to do api programming against mythtv with perl? |
| [21:44:27] | prologic: | but maybe there are useful perl scripts that depend on these bindings? |
| [21:44:37] | justinh: | yeah likely |
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| [21:59:49] | neufeld`: | OK, fixed the custom priority, and things are back to normal. |
| [22:00:15] | bill6502: | neufeld`: 5th bullet here may help you: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Release_Note . . . Instructions |
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| [22:01:43] | neufeld`: | bill6502: thanks. I see I'll need to fix some of my movie recording rules too. |
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| [23:11:54] | moparisthebest_: | with 0.26 is there a way to run a user job on previous recordings? |
| [23:12:16] | jnylen: | HAPPY NEW YEAR! :D |
| [23:13:39] | justinh: | won't be happy til I've sold my house & finally got out of scummy Manchester! |
| [23:14:44] | justinh: | but yeah.. happy new year... in 46 minutes here :-) |
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| [23:18:10] | moparisthebest: | is there a way to run a user job on previous recordings? |
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| [23:20:26] | justinh: | moparisthebest: sure there is. I generally add bunches of recordings to a playlist then hit them all in one go. Menu -> Job Options |
| [23:21:55] | moparisthebest: | justinh: in the frontend? |
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| [23:24:02] | justinh: | no, in the side end :-P Of *course* in the frontend |
| [23:25:40] | justinh: | right. I need EPG data further ahead than one crummy week. Goodbye EIT data |
| [23:27:34] | justinh: | ood grief! ANOTHER timeshifted channel on Freeview? In this, the age of the DVR & IPTV |
| [23:31:34] | moparisthebest: | justinh: well there *is* a backend :) |
| [23:32:07] | justinh: | yes but mythbackend has no GUI |
| [23:33:24] | moparisthebest: | oh yea, actually I was thinking of mythtv-setup |
| [23:33:24] | moparisthebest: | anyhow, I'm still really new to mythtv, if I go media library -> add to playlist |
| [23:33:24] | moparisthebest: | how to I get to the playlist and then menu -> job options |
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| [23:34:18] | justinh: | when you have items in a playlist, there'll be a 'playlist options' item in the menu |
| [23:36:47] | moparisthebest: | in what menu? I'm under 'Watch Recordings', I can right click and click 'add to playlist' |
| [23:36:54] | moparisthebest: | but I don't see a playlist anywhere then |
| [23:37:09] | justinh: | sigh, You won't see a playlist |
| [23:37:22] | justinh: | some themes won't even show that an item is in the playlist |
| [23:38:56] | moparisthebest: | so where do I go to run a user job an a certain recording? |
| [23:39:10] | moparisthebest: | ie, one that has been previously recorded |
| [23:39:25] | justinh: | select the recording. bring up the menu, then go to JOB OPTIONS |
| [23:41:29] | moparisthebest: | the playback menu? I see 'Jobs' but the only option there is 'begin transcoding' and 'turn auto expiration off' |
| [23:42:01] | moparisthebest: | ah, got it, thanks |
| [23:42:15] | moparisthebest: | i'll have to remember to try the 'm' button hehe |
| [23:43:09] | justinh: | why they picked 'M' as the MENU key I'll never know. Oh yeah.. 'Menu' starts with the letter M. In English anyway |
| [23:43:41] | justinh: | unlike some other media centre I could mention... C ?! for 'context sensitive menu' apparently. Yeah real user friendly |
| [23:46:22] | moparisthebest: | i was just using the mouse actually hehe |
| [23:46:57] | moparisthebest: | ok, another question, whether I use mythutil or mythcommflag, I get '2013-12–31 18:45:36.644831 E No program data exists for channel 1021 at 20131229000200' |
| [23:47:13] | moparisthebest: | obviously channel and time are different for each program |
| [23:47:23] | moparisthebest: | but it causes my --gencutlist call to fail? |
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