Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, December 29th, 2013, 00:00 UTC

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mattwj2002:

I am getting buffer overflow

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** [R] gives up and goes to watch tv **

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mattwj2002:

oh crap

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mattwj2002:

it works on a different tuner!

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mattwj2002:

hmmm

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mattwj2002:

restart the tuner me thinks :P

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mattwj2002:

turner locked up thanks [R]

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jKlaus:

[R] used to be so helpful ;)

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jKlaus:

man I really need to fishtape some cat6 through this house.. recently moved and have just been using powerline ethernet adapters.. not cutting it

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mattwj2002:

[R] is still mad because I told him Merry Frecking Christmas :P

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mattwj2002:

too slow jKlaus?

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jKlaus:

lol

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jKlaus:

speed isn't the only issue. stability has become terrible for some reason.

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jKlaus:

I think it happens anytime my electric heater fan kicks on out in the garage

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mattwj2002:

jKlaus: turn off your heat

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mattwj2002:

mythtv will keep you warm ;)

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jKlaus:

lol sure that works as a temporary fix.. but the problem remains.

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jKlaus:

now lets see if I can mount that box lol

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Twiggy2cents:

where do you set up the sg for mythmediaserver?

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Twiggy2cents:

mythtv-setup like a normal sg?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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wagnerrp:

note, it has had very limited testing

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Twiggy2cents:

so kind of a ymmv thing?

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wagnerrp:

it's a "it should work" thing

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Twiggy2cents:

oh

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wagnerrp:

it's using a re-written server library intended to replace the backend, but was partially abandoned

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neohaux:

hi everybody. Is it possible to copy all the movies from my friends PC to mine and my mythtv reconize them? what about the cuting list do I need to recreate them all ?

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neohaux:

he has mythtv same verison as mine

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wagnerrp:

all the recordings?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is not designed to allow transfer of recordings from one master backend to another

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mattwj2002:

yeah I am back setup

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mattwj2002:

:D

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neohaux:

yes all recordings (~20movies)

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neohaux:

there is no table that I can import to my mysql to let this transfer ?

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cesman:

neohaux: it can be done, you'd have to copy the files and export the data from the db

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cesman:

there are tools to do it

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neohaux:

ok

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neohaux:

this is what I thought. what tool

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wagnerrp:

is this an empty backend you're transferring to?

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wagnerrp:

or is there content already on it?

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cesman:

neohaux: cannot recall the names off the top of my head, should I remember, I'll let you know

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neohaux:

empty

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wagnerrp:

if it's empty, just follow the procedure for backing up one backend, and migrating it to a new machine

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davealden:

Hi. I just installed the latest mythweb 0.27-fixes and my 'upcoming recordings' screen is blank. Everything else is working fine (including seeing the next 10 shows scheduled for recording in the "Backend Status" page) and I can see upcoming recordings in my mythfrontend just fine. Any suggestions?

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neohaux:

ok. If there is some content on the destination mythtv

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wagnerrp:

then the easiest option is to simply copy the files, and import them into the video library on the remote system

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neohaux:

import them you mean ?

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wagnerrp:

put them in a directory the video library is watching, go into the video library, and "scan for content"

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cesman:

drop them in the directory mythtv expects to find videos

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neohaux:

ok thanks. What about the cut lists ? need to start... some processes ?

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wagnerrp:

are they MPEG2 or H264?

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neohaux:

h264

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wagnerrp:

so off an HDPVR?

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monkeypet69:

anyone know if btrfs and large files the way that mythtv captures tv stream has issues?

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neohaux:

yes h264 recorded from hdpvr

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wagnerrp:

there is a script on the wiki that will allow you to apply the cutlist to the file

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afpup:

monkeypet69: I had issues with btrfs about 4 years ago and abandonned it, primarly due to issues with large files... however they have done a lot of work on it since, though I'm still hearing issues from others when the volume is getting closed to maxed out.

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wagnerrp:

COW filesystems should never be allowed to get close to full

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afpup:

true, but it does happen... too often in the home environment it seems

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[R]:

because they'll start mooing

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monkeypet69:

wagnerrp: or they should fail gracefully.

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mattwj2002:

hi [R]

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mattwj2002:

cow?

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mattwj2002:

what is a cow filesystem?

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[R]:

MOOOO

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mattwj2002:

oh linux is a cow

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mattwj2002:

:P

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mattwj2002:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy-on-write

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johnbergqvist:

Can someone help me regarding logging

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johnbergqvist:

I've disabled mythlogserver, as it's crashy all the time on my system (Arch) yet it's now not logging at all.

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johnbergqvist:

This is what i'm using as my mythbackend arguments: "mythbackend --noupnp --nologserver --logpath /var/log/mythtv"

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johnbergqvist:

have I got wrong here?

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johnbergqvist:

*gone wrong

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johnbergqvist:

Guys, should the --nologserver option disable ALL logging, or just logging via mythlogserver?

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johnbergqvist:

because currently it's doing the former, which isn't what the Wiki implies

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johnbergqvist:

"With 0.27, mythlogserver is now optional and it appears many distributions are disabling it (or users can do that with the command line option --nologserver.) In such cases, logs are written by each MythTV program according to the parameters below."

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wagnerrp:

mythtv should continue to log as normal, just without routing logs through the log server

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bill6502:

johnbergqvist: The Wiki also says ". All output will go to the console". I've never tried it, but it suggests that if you want the output saved, you'd need to redirect it ( > /some/log/file.)

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afpup:

johnbergqvist: The '--help' for both mythfrontend and mythbackend stipulates that the command line option '--nologserver' disables all logging but console. Running configure with --disable-mythlogserver disables building/running mythlogserver but the logs still end up in the normal places (eg: --logpath /var/log/mythtv)

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wagnerrp:

bill6502: all output always goes to the console, assuming there is a stdout and the user hasn't defined --quiet

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wagnerrp:

but should also go to file/syslog/database as specified by the command line arguments

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bill6502:

wagnerrp: agreed, I'm looking for the commit that added --nologserver. Doesn't --daemon also shut off console logging too?

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wagnerrp:

that... i'm not sure

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wagnerrp:

assuming it does a proper close and fork, there should be no stdout, so it should automatically not log to terminal

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bill6502:

This is it: code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/f124159 . "This will limit all logs to console, disabling file, db and syslog."

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bill6502:

I'll update the Wiki to better describe what happens.

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blafoo:

wagnerrp: there's definitly a memory leak somewhere in the frontend. just watched 1.5 hours livetv (720p HD, from cable, unencrypted, no subtitles), mythfrontend using over 1gb of ram after that. Exiting live tv does not free the memory.

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Fyrfghtr:

Hi Folks. I was hoping to get some advice please. I have two kids two jobs and a wife so not much time to build my own myth frontends. Im also looking to playback bluray directly from the machine as well as from network rips. I was gonna buy one of these two machines. Can you give opinions on which one is better and why please. Also, keep in mind I was looking for low power. I have thought...

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Fyrfghtr:

...about the r pi but dont know how that would work either. Thanks in advance.

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Fyrfghtr:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/gateway-sx-series . . . tab=overview

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Fyrfghtr:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/inspiron-desktop- . . . p=1&lp=1

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johanbr:

Hi. I've compiled mythtv 0.27 to use on my Wandboard (armhf arch). Mythbackend works fine, but mythcommflag crashes after a few seconds with an error such as

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johanbr:

Finding Logo*** Error in `mythcommflag': malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x0

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johanbr:

04285c8 ***

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johanbr:

The time it takes for mythcommflag to crash varies, but mythcommflag eventually always crashes, on every single invocation. I've tried with a few different versions of gcc and binutils, but this still happens. Is this a known problem?

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wagnerrp:

i would suggest not running your primary backend on an ARM, or any other low performance system

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Fyrfghtr:

wagnerrp: Was that directed at me?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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wagnerrp:

no

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wagnerrp:

johanbr

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Fyrfghtr:

Ok. Did you see my post by chance?

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wagnerrp:

if you're choosing between those two, get the Dell

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wagnerrp:

AMD processors are fine, but avoid AMD graphics on Linux

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wagnerrp:

nvidia is preferred, intel is acceptable

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Fyrfghtr:

I had read somewhere that video cards with vdpau were strongly suggested. Would this be the case with either of these systems?

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wagnerrp:

neither of those supports VDPAU

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Fyrfghtr:

i meant should i install a separate vid card with vdpau with both of those systems?

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wagnerrp:

the Dell would have sufficient CPU that it doesn't matter

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wagnerrp:

the Gateway does not

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wagnerrp:

basically, if you're planning on doing hardware video decoding, you want VDPAU

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wagnerrp:

if you have enough CPU, you don't need hardware video decoding, and then Intel is fine

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Fyrfghtr:

is hardware or software better?

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johanbr:

wagnerrp: it's a quad-core imx6, works just fine for my needs

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wagnerrp:

johanbr: all the CPU intensive operations in mythbackend are single threaded

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wagnerrp:

having four cores is irrelevant

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wagnerrp:

Fyrfghtr: some people swear by the video deinterlacers in VDPAU, but software decoding will always be more flexible and robust

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Fyrfghtr:

ok. gotcha

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johanbr:

well, recording takes about 25% of one core, and I haven't noticed any ill effects of running on ARM (other than the bug mentioned above)

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wagnerrp:

recording is trivial, the scheduler is not

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wagnerrp:

watch your scheduler run times. if they edge up towards a minute, you're going to start running into problems

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Fyrfghtr:

wagnerrp: any chance of using mythtv with something like att uverse. I think that is iptv?

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wagnerrp:

you can do analog capture off the UVerse box

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wagnerrp:

but mythtv cannot access the IPTV streams directly

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Fyrfghtr:

so same as satellite

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Fyrfghtr:

wagnerrp: you said the intel would be fine for software video decoding correct?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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wagnerrp:

who is your local cable provider?

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Fyrfghtr:

buckeye. a local mom and pop. they switched to sdv and now i have moto term adapters that dont work.

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wagnerrp:

no idea about them....

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Fyrfghtr:

i have twc to my south and comcast to my north. so right in the middle

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wagnerrp:

depending on the practices of your cable provider, we can interface directly with them

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wagnerrp:

we can use cablecard tuners, but we can only use content marked "copy freely"

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Fyrfghtr:

supposedly moto is working on a firmware upgrade but that has been six months now

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wagnerrp:

with comcast, that means everything but the premiums

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wagnerrp:

with time warner, that means nothing

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Fyrfghtr:

i have hdhr boxes but they need the term adapter and that doesnt work right now

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Fyrfghtr:

so comcast gives you everything but the premuims. that is good to know

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wagnerrp:

your cableco still offers analog channels?

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wagnerrp:

usually that's the only reason to bother with SDV

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Fyrfghtr:

yep.

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wagnerrp:

typically, if they're digital only, they're plenty of bandwidth to go around and no need for SDV

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wagnerrp:

*there's

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Fyrfghtr:

here is the link to their channel lineups: http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/lineups/

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Fyrfghtr:

choose NW ohio

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johanbr:

wagnerrp: the scheduler log entries look something like this: Scheduled 24 items in 0.3 = 0.04 match + 0.11 check + 0.13 place

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wagnerrp:

is this broadcast television only?

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johanbr:

wagnerrp: yep

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wagnerrp:

those numbers rise dramatically with a larger linup

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wagnerrp:

and will steadily rise as you add more rules and record more

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wagnerrp:

bill6502: file, database, and syslog logging are always disabled unless the user explicitly tells mythtv to use them

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wagnerrp:

are you saying the command line flags to enable such logging do not work?

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bill6502:

i build with --disable-mythlogserver and never tested that. Just reading the commit it looks like mythlogserver wouldn't get started, so I guessed that jya's comment meant that they didn't work (nothing to send toe messages to.)

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wagnerrp:

the code is all still there, it should just interface with all those services directly, rather than routing through the log server

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bill6502:

OK. Next time I build, I'll give it a try and fix the Wiki accordingly.

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lautriv:

is there some bug in 0.27 ? appears my frontends running in a race and backends respond very slow.

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kraftb:

hello !

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kraftb:

does someone know what the problem is when I can't select an audio device? If I enter the audio configuration menu I just get an segfault and the message:

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kraftb:

No useable audio output driver found.

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bill6502:

kraftb: I don't, but see if: aplay -L returns a list.

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kraftb:

yes ... it does

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kraftb:

sound even works for other applications

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kraftb:

I can play audio via chrome/youtube

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kraftb:

but no clue why mythtv doesn't work.

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kraftb:

on another frontend box there is no problem.

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kraftb:

and strangely this is a plain mythbuntu setup. no custom changes, etc. except upgrading mythtv to 0.27

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bill6502:

i like: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Using_core_files . then you can search Trac for a match

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kraftb:

ok ... got it.

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kraftb:

I had to start mythfrontend with "--override-setting 'AudioOutputDevice=NULL'

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kraftb:

then I could go to the audio config and select "ALSA:default".

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kraftb:

for some very very strange reason there was "DirectX" in there ... altough it is mythbuntu. Not windows.

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kraftb:

but thanks for your help.

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kraftb:

It reminded me to look for this "override-seting" command again

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kraftb:

audio devices seem to behave strange sometimes :)

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lautriv:

kraftb, if you get a segfault, blame canonical or your h/w

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bill6502:

wagnerrp: I built without --disable-mythlogserver and started the backend with:

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bill6502:

sudo mythbackend --user mythtv --nologserver --logpath /tmp --enable-dblog 2>&1 > console.log

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bill6502:

there was no mythbackend.201312......log in /tmp and SELECT * FROM logging; returned nothing.

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bill6502:

i didn't expect it, but mythlogserver *was* started. Running again without --logpath and --enable-dblog didn't start mythlogserver.

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mengoshmink:

I'm about to go afk but anyone got a quick where to look on this one: MythVideo – was grabbing metadata fine but has stopped working, anywhere to look to try and diagnose the problem? I have tried the log files but nothing seems to be logged

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mengoshmink:

I guess not, I'll pick this up tomorrow, laters

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MartinT:

does anyone know if the metadata grabber for videos works with "specials"?

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MartinT:

i.e season 0, episode != 1

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MartinT:

i.e season 0, episode != 0

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wagnerrp:

it should

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mengoshmink:

works for me sometimes

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mengoshmink:

normally only goes wrong when I name a file wrong, check thetvdb.com

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MartinT:

I've manually updated the database with the correct naming, and the correct season/episode...

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