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| [00:07:01] | andyman53: | the permissions on the devices are 777 |
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| [00:10:57] | andyman53: | i'm not sure what else there is to check |
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| [01:16:14] | wagnerrp: | t/race |
| [01:16:21] | wagnerrp: | bah |
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| [01:40:28] | andyman53: | ? |
| [01:40:38] | andyman53: | strace it? |
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| [14:01:52] | |PSU|: | hi guys...just started having a problem with MySQL out of the blue yesterday. |
| [14:02:09] | |PSU|: | Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. |
| [14:02:33] | |PSU|: | not sure if it's a fail(ing) disk, or what may have happened...any suggestions? |
| [14:06:09] | |PSU|: | that might do it...looks like i'm out of disk space! :) |
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| [15:33:04] | darkdrgn2k: | hey guys, do you guys know if audio recievers now a days process HDMI audio? my old one does not but i cant see much in the form of spes regarding this. |
| [15:36:24] | Hydr0p0nX: | what do you mean process ? |
| [15:38:22] | darkdrgn2k: | if i connect HDMI to my audio receiver, it will not decode the audio. it is used excluslivly as a passthrough i have to use another means to bring audio into the reicvever |
| [15:38:36] | darkdrgn2k: | ie optiocal or spif |
| [15:39:08] | Hydr0p0nX: | ah |
| [15:39:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | my reciever is about 3 years old and handles hdmi audio |
| [15:39:43] | darkdrgn2k: | and since its the biggest pain in the butt i was thining of replacing it.. but no one mentions this anywhere in the specs |
| [15:39:52] | darkdrgn2k: | yeh mins 3 years old to |
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| [15:40:43] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm about to replace mine, just because i didn't plan adequately for the number of hdmi devices i have |
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| [17:38:06] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k3: what good is passthrough? how are you supposed to use the speakers attached to the receiver if it cannot process the audio in the stream? |
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| [19:21:12] | justinh: | heh next receiver I buy, if I ever do, will hopefully *not* feature any stupid DSP modes. All it should ever do is sample rate conversion, channel mapping (maybe) and EQ. No need for reverb etc |
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| [19:51:07] | justinh: | can TVs downsample audio from surround to stereo, or do they just er.. make silence if fed anything non-stereo? |
| [19:51:30] | justinh: | I suppose it'd depend on the TV but I'm just wondering if it's a feature to bother looking for |
| [19:52:15] | wagnerrp: | when you say "receiver" are you just talking an A/V switchbox? or an A/V switchbox built into a speaker amp? |
| [19:53:36] | justinh: | the latter, generally |
| [19:53:51] | justinh: | I hope I'll never need an A/V switcher |
| [19:53:53] | wagnerrp: | then why would it matter what the TV does? |
| [19:54:15] | justinh: | because my current AV receiver doesn't 'do' HDMI |
| [19:54:42] | wagnerrp: | i thought this was speculation on future purchases |
| [19:55:05] | wagnerrp: | the "next receiver I buy", as it were |
| [19:55:07] | justinh: | well, if the TV can't do any downsampling I'd be more likely to get a new receiver |
| [19:55:43] | justinh: | as in.. everything I've ripped & only kept the surround audio.. |
| [19:55:43] | wagnerrp: | it *should*, but one of my boxes feeds a bare samsung 26" |
| [19:56:06] | wagnerrp: | if i try to give it anything compressed, it just assumes it's LPCM and i hear what amounts to static |
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| [19:56:30] | justinh: | ugh |
| [19:56:31] | wagnerrp: | i have to force mythtv to downconvert to 2-ch LPCM before sending it out |
| [19:56:54] | wagnerrp: | which isn't really a problem, because i'm not going to get surround out of a pair of 10W built-in speakers |
| [19:57:19] | justinh: | no, but it being a bit cleverer & giving you at least stereo audio would be nice |
| [19:57:28] | wagnerrp: | still, considering ATSC support requires 5.1ch AC3, it should be able to handle it |
| [19:57:44] | wagnerrp: | i just haven't figured (or care to figure) the magical incantation needed to make it work |
| [19:58:22] | justinh: | meh. Talk about mixed assumptions.. you'd think any HD TV in the uK would be able to play MPEG2 over a network connection – since that's what is broadcast here mostly.. but nah |
| [19:59:39] | justinh: | we're still waiting for the mythical convergence box aren't we? We're closer than we've ever been but still nothing like close enough. Standards, my ass |
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| [20:05:04] | justinh: | oh & regarding TV audio – my parents' TV was horrendously ringy & resonant at even reasonable volumes, no matter what the EQ settings were. I improved it with some 'funky felt' material – but it didn't stop being bad til we mounted it on the wall. |
| [20:05:23] | justinh: | that stiffened the back up enough. Go figure |
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| [20:08:51] | stuartm: | does anyone happen to know how many amps a universal lnb typically draws? |
| [20:09:26] | justinh: | I'd expect it wouldn't even be one amp |
| [20:10:02] | wagnerrp: | draws off mains? or draws over the transmission line? |
| [20:11:48] | justinh: | stuartm: a quick google suggests a couple of hundred mA, which sounds right to me. Older ones may be more (non-universal ones) |
| [20:12:23] | stuartm: | ok, so not enough to worry about :) |
| [20:12:31] | justinh: | it's only a low noise amp, local oscillator & mixer |
| [20:12:51] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: draws from whatever it's connected to, so in this case the DVB-S card |
| [20:13:21] | wagnerrp: | we actually have a separate unit that injects power into the line |
| [20:13:34] | stuartm: | justinh: yeah, just trying to figure out what's using what in this system in the hope of avoiding a new PSU |
| [20:14:07] | justinh: | stuartm: check yer motherboard caps. Any increased power draw may be due to the start of bad caps |
| [20:14:18] | justinh: | see also PSU caps ;-) |
| [20:15:47] | stuartm: | justinh: the increase comes from the new graphics card, once installed the tuners (1x dvb-t, 1x dvb-s) stopped working – removing a hard drive improved the situation some, one tuner started working again, might have to yank the second as well |
| [20:16:29] | stuartm: | if that doesn't work, it will mean a new PSU, one with a higher amp 12v rail |
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| [20:28:43] | stuartm: | who needs case fans? |
| [20:28:50] | ** stuartm pulls the plug on those ** | |
| [20:29:14] | blafoo: | has anyone else seen massive memory usage during playback with 0.27? Mythfrontend starts with about 22% (of 2 gigs of ram) and reaches 45% after 30 minutes... |
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| [20:35:33] | justinh: | stuartm: when I see the power requirements of graphics hardware these days... |
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| [20:39:34] | justinh: | hahaha.. and the prices of some of it. More than I've ever spent putting a machine together – just for the graphics card. LOL |
| [20:40:04] | justinh: | $deity, what happened to me? I used to be all about the specs. Now it's whatever'll do the job for the least amount of money |
| [20:40:51] | wagnerrp: | blafoo: on an HD frontend, with artwork, that's typical |
| [20:42:19] | stuartm: | I've not cared about horsepower for a while now, quality maybe, anyhow, the onboard graphics just weren't cutting it anymore and since they shared system memory getting a cheap discrete graphics card was the most economical way of giving this machine a boost (more system ram + faster gpu) |
| [20:42:27] | blafoo: | wagnerrp: typical that memory usage goes up that much? |
| [20:42:56] | blafoo: | wagnerrp: i can imagine that using 50% of memory is typical, however the usage goes up and up and then the OOM kicks in |
| [20:43:06] | wagnerrp: | somewhere around 500MB-1GB is common |
| [20:43:13] | wagnerrp: | if you're OOMing, that's bad |
| [20:43:18] | wagnerrp: | no swap? |
| [20:43:54] | blafoo: | i've added swap now, but nothing is used yet |
| [20:44:10] | wagnerrp: | do you remain under 1GB, or does it just keep increasing? |
| [20:44:29] | justinh: | if it just keeps increasing that'd be a memory leak which needs to be fixed |
| [20:44:53] | justinh: | not necessarily in mythtv though |
| [20:45:00] | blafoo: | wagnerrp: it keeps increasing until i exit playback and then start it again (I think, need to confirm that later) |
| [20:45:49] | stuartm: | blafoo: do you use subtitles? |
| [20:45:56] | stuartm: | or CC |
| [20:46:53] | blafoo: | no |
| [20:47:14] | blafoo: | regular HD 720p from cable |
| [20:47:38] | wagnerrp: | from cable? or from an HDPVR connected to a cable box? |
| [20:48:04] | blafoo: | wagnerrp: from dvb-c cable (unencrypted) |
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| [22:20:35] | justinh: | haha who the heck authored these DVDs? They've got a 'play all' menu option which basically just plays a video of all the episodes edited together. An utter waste of disc space |
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| [22:24:57] | justinh: | also, that Fire Hit TV that came to Manchester & launched this year. It's already off the air. Or never actually launched, whatever. I dunno what all the fuss is about regarding hyper-local TV – they only have to look at the examples of *every* *single* local TV station in the UK to se what's coming |
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| [22:27:25] | justinh: | stuartm: BTW just read that MHEG iPlayer looks to be coming to Freeview after all :-) Oh boy.. *native* MythTV iPlayer. If I were the type to squee, I would |
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| [22:31:15] | justinh: | I was asking my Dad if his YouView box let him filter the guide the other day. He said yes & showed me. Yeah you can filter by categories, genres etc.. for *channels* not programmes. Talk about useless. |
| [22:31:49] | justinh: | maybe the box doesn't have enough resources to be able to load all programs into memory at the same time to do a search of any worth |
| [22:36:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | woooo |
| [22:37:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | finally got audio working again |
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