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Monday, December 23rd, 2013, 00:08 UTC
[00:08:00] sheptard: so anyone know of a hdmi card that supports v4l?
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[00:09:48] [R]: "hdmi card"?
[00:10:38] sheptard: sorry, card which supports capturing hdmi
[00:11:17] [R]: what do you plan on capturing over hdmi
[00:11:31] sheptard: tv
[00:11:40] [R]: "tv"?
[00:11:59] sheptard: yes, I'd much rather use mythtv as dvr software, than anything windows based
[00:12:33] sheptard: and my hauppauge colossus doesn't work under linux, and the folks who do have a driver wont sell me the .ko
[00:13:57] [R]: i can't imagine what you could be cpaturing over hdmi that would be worth it
[00:14:47] sheptard: 'worth' it is subjective
[00:15:07] [R]: i acn't think of anything one coudl capture over hdmi
[00:15:40] sheptard: well my hauppauge card works, just under windows using poopy software
[00:16:47] monkeypet69: i wonder why playback on mythfrontend on my fedora is 2x the speed, I checked the settings and it was normal there.
[00:17:26] monkeypet69: my remote frontends running ubuntu, playback is normal on them.
[00:18:38] [R]: monkeypet69: what playback profile are you using?
[00:21:38] wagnerrp: sheptard: it actually works for capturing television from your cable box?
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[00:23:01] monkeypet69: [R]: I tried all of them, they all playback twice as fast.
[00:23:13] [R]: even slim?
[00:24:32] monkeypet69: [R]: Yes.
[00:24:39] [R]: what does the frontend output say
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[00:54:49] sid3windr: pa-pa-pa-pa-pa pa-pow
[00:55:09] wagnerrp: mooooo?
[00:55:22] Hydr0p0nX: yay
[00:57:19] Hydr0p0nX: reloaded mythbuntu from 12.04.3 iso and sound still doesn't work but, it's at least recognizing the hdmi port immediately now :)
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[02:31:59] qu: Anyone have an AMD card? I just installed mine and Myth video starts-stops-starts, and CPU is pegged.
[02:32:18] qu: I have Textured on for xorg, and Qt painter.
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[02:34:11] wagnerrp: got an nvidia card to use instead?
[02:34:26] wagnerrp: AMD is best left avoided if you're using linux and actually need hardware acceleration
[02:34:43] qu: No, just ditched nvidia as I need opencl.
[02:36:32] wagnerrp: so use opencl... on nvidia hardware
[02:36:52] qu: ... and get 1/100th the performance?
[02:37:15] wagnerrp: that only matters on hardware that actually works
[02:37:28] wagnerrp: if you're on windows, amd hardware is great
[02:37:38] wagnerrp: if you're on linux, amd hardware is hit or miss
[02:37:51] qu: Anyone you know, running amd gpu with myth?
[02:38:45] wagnerrp: we recommend heavily people do not, due to the pervasive and long held history of issues with ati, and now amd, hardware
[02:38:59] wagnerrp: don't get me wrong, amd has come a long way with their linux drivers
[02:39:21] wagnerrp: but the original ati drivers they were starting from were such utter garbage, they still have a long way to go
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[03:22:21] sheptard: wagnerrp: yes, it works for capping TV
[03:23:08] wagnerrp: HDMI outputs are almost invariably encrypted using HDCP, which cannot be captured
[03:23:15] sheptard: yep
[03:23:26] sheptard: unless you either don't have hdcp, or something ignores it
[03:24:07] sheptard: so thats why I'd like a good cap card to use under linux
[03:24:16] sheptard: so I don't have the analog quality loss like I did with my hd-pvr
[03:24:31] wagnerrp: there is a driver available, but only under volume commercial license
[03:24:32] sheptard: and I'm pretty sure the HD-PVR2 isn't supported under linux at this time
[03:24:54] sheptard: wagnerrp: yeah, I emailed kernel labs already. They wouldn't even give me a price
[03:25:13] sheptard: I was willing to give them like $500/yr, but they told me to go away
[03:26:16] wagnerrp: i think it's a question of trust
[03:26:44] wagnerrp: presumably they had to sign off on NDAs in order to get the documentation needed to develop the driver
[03:27:03] wagnerrp: and in turn, they're only willing to deal with commercial customers large enough to reliably do the same
[03:27:10] sheptard: yeah
[03:27:14] sheptard: and fair enough
[03:27:28] sheptard: hence my looking for another card
[03:28:13] sheptard: as otherwise I'd just cap sat w/ a DVB card, but I have no way to interface with my providers CAM stuff
[03:28:46] wagnerrp: CI is not an option?
[03:29:11] sheptard: I don't know what that is
[03:29:31] wagnerrp: in the DVB world, CI is a standard format for conditional access modules
[03:29:41] sheptard: oh
[03:29:43] wagnerrp: a Common Interface, as it were
[03:29:55] sheptard: my sat providers don't subscribe to that since it's not required by law like it is in america
[03:30:14] sheptard: there's no card or anything. you must use their STBs
[03:30:38] wagnerrp: satellite providers in the US have no restrictions either
[03:31:01] sheptard: but I thought they always gave you a niagra 3 card or whatever
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[03:31:15] sheptard: which you could use in a DVB cap card that had a CI module
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[03:31:33] wagnerrp: they only allow use with their own STBs
[03:31:52] wagnerrp: and typically, you just get a smart card with the keys
[03:32:00] wagnerrp: the crypto hardware is built into the unit
[03:32:48] sheptard: http://www.buydvb.net/dvbs2-tv-tuner-pcie-c-2 . . . rd-p-72.html
[03:33:04] sheptard: I thought if my provider supported it, one of those would work perfectly
[03:33:22] wagnerrp: in europe
[03:33:37] wagnerrp: and maybe australia
[03:33:45] sheptard: ahhhhh
[03:33:53] wagnerrp: (the DVB world)
[03:34:10] wagnerrp: as opposed to ATSC world
[03:34:36] wagnerrp: technically, satellite providers over here use some blend of DVB, but since you're not allowed to capture and use it outside of their equipment, it really doesn't matter
[03:35:13] sheptard: I wonder if FTA is worth looking at
[03:35:20] sheptard: but installing a dish would be a PITA
[03:35:31] sheptard: could cap NASA tv
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[03:37:51] wagnerrp: you get nasa, a bunch of shopping channels, a bunch of religious channels, and a bunch of encrypted crap
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[03:41:49] qu: Unfortunately I set opengl2 as my painter, and now I get nothing but a blank screen. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:42:20] wagnerrp: force it on the command line with '-O ThemePainter=qt'
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[03:42:39] sheptard: wagnerrp: thanks for your time
[03:42:41] wagnerrp: or my first recommendation...
[03:43:52] qu: wagnerrp: Ah excellent. Ty.
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[03:44:56] Esteban: why is myth always complaining about LC_ALL LC_CTYPE LANG?
[03:45:28] Esteban: even after i export LC_ALL="en_AU.utf8"
[03:45:35] wagnerrp: because if you do not set your environment to some blend of UTF-8, any external grabbers that are pulling non-ascii data will not behave properly
[03:45:46] Esteban: and similarly for LC_CTYPE and LANG
[03:46:05] wagnerrp: set LANG, and it should automatically apply for the others
[03:46:14] Esteban: some blend? if I locale, they're all set to en_AU.utf8 ?
[03:46:19] wagnerrp: and that format only works if you're running the frontend through bash
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[03:46:43] Esteban: yes i was running it through bash to test this
[03:46:55] wagnerrp: when you say you exported it, you did it in the same session from which you ran the frontend?
[03:47:00] Esteban: yup
[03:47:02] wagnerrp: the same terminal?
[03:47:05] Esteban: yup
[03:47:11] wagnerrp: should have worked...
[03:47:21] Esteban: yeah, that's what I thought
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[03:47:32] wagnerrp: do that again, and type 'locale'
[03:47:47] Esteban: the only difference I can see is the en_AU.utf8 is surrounded by quotes in the output of the locale command
[03:48:03] Esteban: and for LANG LC_CTPE and LC_ALL that I set, there's no quotes
[03:48:14] wagnerrp: try "en_AU.utf-8"
[03:48:46] Esteban: export LANG="en_AU.utf8"
[03:48:53] Esteban: locale
[03:48:54] Esteban: LANG=en_AU.utf8
[03:48:56] Esteban: ...
[03:48:57] wagnerrp: i mean, try with the dash
[03:49:00] Esteban: LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_AU.utf8"
[03:49:00] Esteban: LC_ALL=en_AU.utf8
[03:49:02] wagnerrp: just in case the check is too strict
[03:49:11] Esteban: arr
[03:50:49] Esteban: indeed the dash fixes the myth complaint
[03:51:06] Esteban: i wonder who is setting the locale to en_AU.utf8 vs en_AU.utf-8?
[03:51:26] wagnerrp: ill need to see what the check is actually looking for...
[03:53:09] Esteban: cool. In the meantime I'll just make a note of that in my mythstart script ...
[03:53:42] Esteban: I must say, myth has come a long way since I started using it. I'm very very happy with it especially now I have the remote working.
[03:54:35] Esteban: frontend still dies occasionally, but now that I have the media button do a mythfrontend restart, and plenty of ofther functions including shutdown and start the frontend PC ... happy wife happy life for me
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[03:56:08] Esteban: page tearing / playback sync problem to fix, and I think I'm done!
[03:56:13] Esteban: more reading first ...
[03:56:25] wagnerrp: yeah, it's just a blind search for "utf-8", with the dash
[03:57:57] Esteban: excellent. that's the explanation. Thanks!
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[08:07:56] justinh: wagnerrp: even with nvidia, I find playing video in linux to be hit & miss – I thought that changing hardware from intel video to nvidia would finally give me the ability to play flash videos but alas no – still tearing hell with no visible means of redeeming it
[08:09:21] justinh: maybe it really needs VDPAU but I'd have thought it'd do okay without
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[08:40:26] Esteban: myth working with vaapi and no page tearing
[08:40:30] Esteban: very happy vegemite here
[08:41:59] Esteban: tearfree true accelmethod sna
[08:50:00] xris: wish my audio sync issues would go away
[08:59:48] jnylen: So I heard Esteban is a vegemite user
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[15:10:57] cbovy: everytime a metadatadownload is performed, I find the folllowing error in my log:
[15:11:18] cbovy: mythbackend[13688]: E CoreContext mythcorecontext.cpp:327 (ConnectToMasterServer) ERROR: Master backend tried to connect back to itself!
[15:11:42] cbovy: any idea?
[15:16:16] cbovy: metadownload finds the info, but information is not updated in videometadata table. probably related to issue being discussed on #mythtv-users mailinglist.
[15:16:43] cbovy: a manual 'Retreive details' is working though.
[15:23:02] cbovy: wagnerrp: I see you are replying to that specific thread in mailinglist. Do you think this is related?
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[15:24:16] wagnerrp: that error is usually found when the backend is misconfigured, such that it is operating as a slave backend
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[15:24:29] wagnerrp: i cannot think of another scenario in which that would happen
[15:24:39] cbovy: ok. let me check that.
[15:24:52] wagnerrp: if that were the case, your system would not function at all
[15:25:09] cbovy: system functions correctly actually.
[15:26:19] cbovy: I only see this error when metadownload has run looking for data after a mythutil --scanvideos.
[15:27:11] wagnerrp: as far as i know, metadata download should only ever take place in the frontend
[15:27:20] wagnerrp: i don't believe --scanvideos will trigger it in the backend
[15:27:30] cbovy: ok. that make sense.
[15:28:42] wagnerrp: what it's doing is reaching out to other backends to scan their storage
[15:29:10] wagnerrp: it's a bit of a hack, since the existing internal protocol code does not provide access to the existing connections
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[15:29:52] wagnerrp: perhaps you had an older backend with a different hostname but the same IP address?
[15:30:44] cbovy: I have migrated my backend a few months back.... so maybe some legacy stuff in.
[15:31:00] cbovy: well, I just simulated it.
[15:31:08] cbovy: I copied a video to SG location.
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[15:31:17] cbovy: then I ran mythutil --scanvideos
[15:31:21] cbovy: video added to library.
[15:31:37] cbovy: then right afterwards metadatadownload starts on backend.
[15:31:44] cbovy: and then I get the error in the log.
[15:31:44] wagnerrp: the rest of the content scan should continue to work fine
[15:31:50] cbovy: right.
[15:31:59] wagnerrp: it just won't pull any content from the slave backend it thinks it should have access to
[15:32:15] cbovy: but no metadata added to videometadata table.
[15:32:16] wagnerrp: because when it connected to it, it found out it was itself
[15:32:27] wagnerrp: correct. that is only performed in the frontend
[15:33:03] cbovy: ok, so then I need to manually fetch details on frontend first to have this filled?
[15:33:22] wagnerrp: or use the bulk updater
[15:33:34] wagnerrp: or scan from the frontend and configure it to run the bulk updater automatically
[15:34:56] cbovy: for reference: http://pastebin.com/MfaFU5ed
[15:35:35] cbovy: why is the metadatagrabber running but not updating the tables? this is a typical backend thing to my opinion?
[15:36:10] wagnerrp: i'll have to go back through the code, but if i remember correctly, the bulk updater only exists in the frontend
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[15:36:23] wagnerrp: you shouldn't be getting those calls coming from the backend
[15:37:06] wagnerrp: in that scenario, it appears that the backend is trying to download and push artwork to a remote system, only finding it is that remote system and aborting
[15:38:01] cbovy: the artwork is actually downloaded and stored in SG, but not updated in database.
[15:45:35] cbovy: if you want me to file a ticket, please let me know.
[15:46:03] wagnerrp: i'm going to rip all that code out, hopefully before 0.28, anyway
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[15:46:48] cbovy: ok, but I like the idea of having the backend perform all the metadata download. :-)
[15:47:08] wagnerrp: that's the plan
[15:47:16] cbovy: ah ok.
[15:47:39] cbovy: I read again the thread on the mailinglist, and I think it is the exact issue as we discussed here.
[15:49:03] cbovy: let me browse the code myself (as far as I'm able to understand with my limiting programming skills), and report back. thanks for your help and explanation!
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[15:59:30] MartinT: wagnerrp: so when I do a scan videos on the backend (0.27), the meta data only gets updated when one of the frontends enters the videos area?
[16:02:06] wagnerrp: i had thought the bulk metadata updater was only in the frontend
[16:02:12] wagnerrp: but those logs seem to suggest otherwise
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[18:47:37] DavidBrooke: I was testing out the siduction rc1 distro....they are using systemd....when I started mythfrontend....it starts the language/database screens and repeats them...I have the mythfrontend log if anyone interested
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[18:53:19] stuartm: it can't connect to the database
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[18:54:15] DavidBrooke: database, server, etc...
[18:55:10] DavidBrooke: but I was able to connect to mysql using ....mysql -u mythtv -p -h 192.168.x.x
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[19:05:29] ChuckPa: hi all. Anyone have a moment to help with Silicon Dust product selection for use with MythTv?
[19:05:59] wagnerrp: not a tough choice
[19:06:05] wagnerrp: there's the one for cable, and the one for broadcast
[19:06:17] ChuckPa: i didn't think so until I asked the cable company. LOL
[19:06:27] wagnerrp: which cable company?
[19:06:43] ChuckPa: I would like to have it do transcode and wifi transmit to my backend
[19:06:51] wagnerrp: no and no
[19:07:20] ChuckPa: doesn't the tc model do just that?
[19:07:42] ChuckPa: cable company is blue ridge communications, their zip is 17522
[19:07:44] wagnerrp: there is some model they're developing that does. i'm not aware if they've released it to market
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[19:07:56] wagnerrp: however that is only intended for streaming low resolution content to mobile devices
[19:08:19] ChuckPa: I was told in the silicon dust room to wait a few weeks and it would be available after Jan 1
[19:08:39] wagnerrp: not worth waiting for unless you intend to use it with an iphone or android
[19:08:55] wagnerrp: and then if you're going to be using it independent of mythtv, you want a separate one for mythtv to use
[19:09:03] wagnerrp: mythtv does not expect it will need to share its toys
[19:09:35] ChuckPa: i'm not asking myth to share its toys (the silicon dust)
[19:09:55] wagnerrp: in which case there's no reason to want to transcode it and stream it over wifi
[19:10:12] ChuckPa: What I would LIKE to do is simply have the backend capture the program and drop it in my directory (linux) which is backed by my NAS
[19:10:27] ChuckPa: then my cron job will do container conversion at regular intervals
[19:11:07] ChuckPa: the 'pain in the backside' is that i don't have and can't get a cable outlet to the room with the computer and NAS without great expense
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[19:11:44] wagnerrp: you've still not stated what cable provider
[19:12:01] ChuckPa: i did.. blue ridge communications. location ephrata, pa. zip 17522
[19:12:14] wagnerrp: no idea what their rules are on copy protection
[19:12:20] wagnerrp: you should check that first
[19:12:37] wagnerrp: if they transmit their content flagged for copy protection, nothing but windows media center can touch it
[19:12:50] ChuckPa: they state, having spoken to them, I need the M card to do the channel map THEN need their 'sdv' adapter
[19:13:08] wagnerrp: correct
[19:13:17] wagnerrp: the SDV unit connects to the USB port on the HDHR
[19:14:01] ChuckPa: ok.. then how would you transmit that signal, without having ethernet within reach of the HDHR to your computer/nas?
[19:14:03] wagnerrp: since the HDHR is not capable of two-way communication with the headend, it uses the SDV adapter to tell the headend to allocate bandwidth for your desired channel, and then find where the channel has been placed
[19:14:09] wagnerrp: run ethernet
[19:14:12] wagnerrp: wifi is unreliable
[19:14:40] ChuckPa: so i spend the money for a cable outlet or spend it for ethernet?
[19:14:57] wagnerrp: run it yourself, or move your server/nas
[19:15:09] ChuckPa: my nas is a synology 1813+
[19:15:17] ChuckPa: not something i wanted to put in the living room
[19:15:43] ChuckPa: and it doesn't have the horsepower to transcode with anyway (it's an Atom processor)
[19:15:58] wagnerrp: no sense transcoding unless you need it for mobile devices
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[19:16:35] ChuckPa: ok. then maybe i misunderstood. What is the output from the HDHR? Mpeg2 TS?
[19:16:40] wagnerrp: yes
[19:16:45] ChuckPa: sweet!
[19:16:56] wagnerrp: technically, it's whatever the cable company transmits
[19:16:59] wagnerrp: which will be mpeg2 in a ts
[19:17:28] ChuckPa: and i take it ffmpeg can convert that container to anything I want (i've done container translations before)
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[19:17:57] wagnerrp: you can change containers, but that's basically like taking the contents of a zip file and putting them in a rar
[19:18:42] ChuckPa: true. but what it will be streamed out to after its on the NAS (the rest of the household) is expecting the typical mkv or mp4 containers
[19:18:44] wagnerrp: aside from a few percent gains in efficiency one way or the other, there's no real purpose to it, aside from compatibility with hardware players
[19:19:15] ChuckPa: i have tablets, laptops, and chromecast in the house.
[19:19:27] ChuckPa: they will all be consumers of the media
[19:19:44] wagnerrp: as i understand it, chromecast cannot receive user-sourced media
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[19:20:11] ChuckPa: i have the app in plex on my nas
[19:20:16] ChuckPa: that part works
[19:20:43] wagnerrp: i thought i saw something a couple months ago that google disabled local streaming to it
[19:21:29] ChuckPa: if they said they disabled it, then i must have been lucky somehow. mine work
[19:21:29] paulobear: Hello fellow mythtv-users – I was was wondering if I could get some help w/a program guide problem?
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[19:23:03] paulobear: My problem is that I'm using SchedulesDirect, have on-air turned off where ever I can find it, mythfilldatabase appears to be running successfully, but I never get more than a few hours in the program guide.
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[19:23:33] wagnerrp: what type of channels are these?
[19:23:54] paulobear: Digital Over the air, using Hauppauge 2250
[19:24:09] paulobear: ASTC type channels
[19:24:18] wagnerrp: after you scanned for channels, did you make sure they were all mapped to xmltvids from schedules direct?
[19:24:35] paulobear: Oh, yep, I did that. I checked them against the Report in SD.
[19:24:55] paulobear: I have even nuked and re-defined my Video Source.
[19:25:05] paulobear: And of course, re-assoc as input
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[19:25:36] paulobear: I've looked through the various forums, so that's how I knew to do those steps.
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[19:26:02] wagnerrp: try running 'mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all' from a terminal
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[19:27:22] paulobear: ok. i have that switch set up in General backend settings, but I haven't seen any new updates in the mythfilldatabase log. I'll give it a shot manually.
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[19:29:49] paulobear: Hi +wagnerrp – that does appearing to be taking longer, that's for sure. :)
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[19:35:18] paulobear: wagnerrp – http://pastebin.com/yebDFSdj for output of mythfilldatabase. Looks pretty nornal to me? but who am i to judge? :)
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[19:36:17] paulobear: also no better data in live tv – should I restart the front end?
[19:37:05] wagnerrp: i'm not sure when the data gets refreshed in the frontend
[19:37:29] stuartm: it's not cached
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[19:42:33] MartinT: is it a bug that a recording continues into a channel that shares the same frequency when the switchover happens?
[19:43:06] MartinT: i.e. when recording the bedtime stories on Cbeebies.... it records into BBC4...
[19:43:25] MartinT: even though they are actually separate channels...
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[20:27:39] paulobear: wagnerrp & company – I have exited and re-entered the frontend. Still no SchedulesDirect/xmltv data. Is all this data stored in mythconverg? I guess mythfilldatabase kind of implies that it is. How else can I check to see why the frontend is not using it?
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[20:47:52] sjuk: Hello
[20:49:19] sjuk: I'm using mythtv 0.26.1 and have problems with mythcommflag
[20:50:16] sjuk: the logo detection always fails
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[21:07:21] sjuk: started mythcommflag with "$ mythcommflag --method 4 --quiet --loglevel debug --verbose commflag --syslog local7 --file /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/18501_20131222173100.mpg"
[21:08:15] paulobear: wagnerrp – could my issue w/schedules direct have something to do w/how I setup the input connections? For instance, my capture card has two tuners. Should I have used the "Fetch listings..." option for the second tuner, instead of the "Scan" option?
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[21:11:25] sjuk: in /var/log/mythtv/mythcommflag.log I found "Trying with edgeDiff == 5 (7,10,15,20,30,40,50,60)" but in the end there only is "No suitable logo area found." But I'm sure there is a logo in the recording.
[21:14:55] sjuk: Is there someone who can test the logo detection and share the experience with us? You can also write to mailing list (see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/560076); Thank you
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[21:35:30] wagnerrp: paulobear: those two inputs should share a single video source
[21:35:48] sjuk: hello
[21:36:33] sjuk: is there someone common with mythcommflag?
[21:37:17] sjuk: logo detection does not work!
[21:38:45] DavidBrooke: /set irc_conf_mode on
[21:39:25] sjuk: and what did that do?
[21:39:39] DavidBrooke: /gui apply
[21:41:05] DavidBrooke: /allchan chanopt confmode on
[21:42:41] sjuk: ok, but what was it for?
[21:42:58] sjuk: sorry, I'm new to irc
[21:45:35] DavidBrooke: sjuk: if are referring to me....I was testing ways to turn off join/part messages
[21:46:04] sjuk: DavidBrooke: thank you for the information
[21:48:06] sjuk: DavidBrooke: do you use mythcommflag?
[21:49:27] DavidBrooke: yes I use it but all I know is how to enable it via the menu and use home and end keys during the viewing of a recording
[21:50:23] DavidBrooke: I can't answer your question conerning why the logo detection deosn't work
[21:52:43] sjuk: would other chat user see my question later on? or should I repeat it later again and again?
[21:52:50] DavidBrooke: commerical detection has a 75–80% accuracy in my use...when it doesn't work as expected I then adjust by using the rewind 5 seconds of the home key
[21:53:57] DavidBrooke: sjuk: your posting is as good as users can see it....new users coming on after you post will not see your post....that is the best answer I can give
[21:57:09] sjuk: DavidBrooke: Thank you. I will come back later; and perhaps repeat my question and will by a little more lucky :)
[21:57:36] sjuk: have a nice christmas
[21:59:47] paulobear: wagnerrp – I think I've figured it out. D'OH! When I used the up and down arrows, I get EIT data. Then when I use left/right arrows, it scrolls back and forward in time, but limited by EIT data. I expected to get XMLTV data when I used the up/down/left/ritght arrows.
[22:00:27] wagnerrp: you should not have any EIT data
[22:00:37] wagnerrp: mixing two different data sources causes nothing but problems
[22:01:52] paulobear: Well, maybe I'm getting confused by the fact that the l/r arrows only go forward a couple of hours – a behavior I expect w/EIT data. At least that's what I got before I didn't have SD.
[22:04:03] paulobear: After I configured the two tuners w/the same video source (what I have been doing all along), I did notice that in the Channel Editor, the EIT selection was enabled, guessing by default. I disabled it everywhere it made sense. Some channels are not in the SD listing (QVC, HSN, Western TV, Classic TV).
[22:05:38] paulobear: The Schedule does work fine, btw. I hadn't actually been checking the schedule itself, expecting the u/d/l/r arrows to work the same as the schedule.
[22:06:01] wagnerrp: they should, although admittedly i almost never use live tv
[22:07:08] paulobear: Ok, well, since the schedule works, I think I'm going to call it good for now. :) Thanks for your patience.
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[22:28:46] DavidBrooke: wagnerrp: give me some hints on where to look for the permissions/?...the only place I know to look is the ~/.mythtv
[22:29:31] wagnerrp: log onto the mysql server as root
[22:29:52] wagnerrp: run "grant all on mythconverg.* to 'username'@'ip address' identified by 'password';"
[22:30:55] DavidBrooke: k
[22:31:15] DavidBrooke: how do I login to mysql?
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[22:31:48] wagnerrp: mysql -uroot
[22:32:00] wagnerrp: you may also need a '-p'
[22:32:14] wagnerrp: in which case you would need to know the administrative password to the mysql server
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[23:24:24] fluvvell: anybody here using a dvb-s pci-e card in their mythtv ?
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[23:36:16] sjuk: Does anyone find commercials with the logo detection method?
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