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Saturday, December 21st, 2013, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:30] wagnerrp: meaning their "good" password would be discovered in short order by any decent password attack
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[00:15:36] tgm4883: wagnerrp, unfortunately, that is still probably more secure than some of the passwords that your coworkers have now
[00:17:01] Hydr0p0nX: A "good" password is take any random sentence or phrase, of 8 or more words, combine upper, lower, number, special chars from that phrase (1 letter per word) and make the sentence/phrase easy to remember but the password difficult
[00:17:58] Hydr0p0nX: i.e., My friend alfred likes apple pie = y6@3p1!
[00:18:11] Hydr0p0nX: horrible example, but the point stands
[00:18:59] Hydr0p0nX: at least, that was the .gov examples when i was on a contract for them some years back
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[00:19:44] tgm4883: Hydr0p0nX kinda sucks at examples = Da5@X!
[00:20:15] Hydr0p0nX: DaSax!
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[00:21:15] tgm4883: using ir-keytable -t, shouldn't I be getting the same scancode when hitting the same button on a remote
[00:22:18] tgm4883: This is what I get when I hold the up button for 5 seconds http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6608637/
[00:26:29] Hydr0p0nX: time to shutdown the ol' mythbox so's i can clean and relocate it
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[01:22:27] Led-Hed: I'm running 0.26, and am trying to access my videos (stored on my backend) via UPnP, I'm able to play the videos fine, but my directory structure is missing, its just a long list of movies. Is there a setting I need to change for directories to appear?
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[04:53:00] HaSH: Hello all. I installed mythtv 0.27 on ubuntu 10.04 via the mythbuntu repos and installed mythtv-backend. It looks like that didnt install mysql or the mythconverg db. I manually installed mysql but I cannot seem to find where the initial mythconverg datbase file is located. its been a year or two since I've run mythtv and is it possible things have changed since then regarding mythtv+mysql?
[04:53:32] HaSH: I dont have /usr/share/mythtv/databse
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[04:56:00] HaSH: Hmm. So I stand corrected. It seems it did...but mythtv-setup is not connecting to the backend. I'll check to make sure mysql is listening for connections and the user/pass
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[04:58:19] HaSH: Was a combo of both mysql not listening and bad/user pass
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[05:02:04] wagnerrp: Led-Hed: the upnp server was rewritten, and the video library is awaiting someone migrating the various views to the backend, so they can be used by the upnp server
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[05:17:12] Hydr0p0nX: geez
[05:17:27] Hydr0p0nX: I'm starting to think moving this was a "bad idea"
[05:17:43] Hydr0p0nX: been dealing with issues getting hdmi audio out working
[05:19:47] wagnerrp: what hardware?
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[05:23:18] Hydr0p0nX: nvidia
[05:23:21] Hydr0p0nX: 8200
[05:23:29] wagnerrp: onboard?
[05:23:34] Hydr0p0nX: yep
[05:23:37] HaSH: Hmm. ANy ideas why I'm getting this? init: mythtv-backend respawning too fast, stopped
[05:23:47] wagnerrp: it should just show up as an ALSA output
[05:23:56] wagnerrp: from there, it's simply a matter of you selecting the correct device
[05:24:02] HaSH: Mythtv seems to start...then shows: init: mythtv-backend main process (17169) killed by SEGV signal a few times then that error
[05:24:29] Hydr0p0nX: yea, but it's not showing up
[05:24:43] Hydr0p0nX: hoping reinstalling the nvidia driver will fix
[05:24:59] wagnerrp: no, it's just using a standard HDA profile
[05:25:16] wagnerrp: it should be built into a modern kernel, and be independent of the proprietary nvidia drivers
[05:25:40] wagnerrp: run 'aplay -l' and 'aplay -L'. post the results
[05:28:43] Hydr0p0nX: http://pastebin.com/HxDePLXr
[05:29:30] HaSH: So it looks like whenever a client tries to connect to mythbackend it casues mythtv to crash?
[05:29:50] wagnerrp: hard to tell without a backtrace
[05:30:07] wagnerrp: so card 0, device 3
[05:30:24] wagnerrp: it should get enumerated and displayed in the audio setup in the frontend
[05:31:31] Hydr0p0nX: just not getting audio out of anything right now
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[16:46:22] tgm4883: HaSH, how did you install 0.27 on 10.04? We don't build it for 10.04
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[17:18:47] stuartm: Hydr0p0nX: I have the same chipset, and I'm using HDMI audio without issue
[17:19:50] stuartm: Hydr0p0nX: open alsamixer, check that the S/PDIF outputs aren't muted, MM == muted, 00 == active
[17:20:18] stuartm: to unmute, select and press M
[17:21:44] stuartm: in MythTV's audio setup, it should appear as ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
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[18:26:20] Oleg_: how do I adjust brightness, contrast, and etc. when playing a file with mythavtest?
[18:26:32] brandon_dacrib: I am having trouble getting mythtmetadatalookup to work: I pasted the output http://pastebin.com/Ygg57yav
[18:27:38] brandon_dacrib: that file that is looking for /usr/share/mythtv//locales/en_us.xml exists
[18:29:10] stuartm: the error is "2013-12–21 13:23:54.701895 I Movie grabber not functional. Aborting this run."
[18:29:36] stuartm: not the fact that it's failing to load the translation, which isn't en_us.xml btw, but en_us.qm
[18:30:04] stuartm: the movie grabber is tmdb3.py
[18:30:19] brandon_dacrib: yes. but and earlier it complains about not being able to load /usr/share/mythtv//locales/en_us.xml
[18:30:34] Oleg_: people!
[18:30:42] brandon_dacrib: with that line where it looks for that (which exists) then the line below it where it says:
[18:30:43] brandon_dacrib: Error Loading en_us translation for module mythfronten
[18:30:47] stuartm: wagnerrp: ^^ we should probably log which script exactly is failing and maybe why – e.g. it can't be found, or it's not executable
[18:30:55] Oleg_: please tell me how to adjust brightness and other stuff when playing files with mythtv
[18:31:02] stuartm: brandon_dacrib: two different things, neither related to your problem
[18:31:15] stuartm: en_us.xml isn't the translation, it's the locale settings file
[18:31:29] brandon_dacrib: ok. understood.
[18:32:00] stuartm: the translation file is en_us.qm, but failing to load it isn't a fatal error for the metadata lookup
[18:32:16] stuartm: failing to find, or execute tmdb3.py is fatal
[18:32:56] brandon_dacrib: ok I have that in /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/
[18:33:08] brandon_dacrib: maybe I need to update the db to point to the correct file
[18:33:26] wagnerrp: under default logging, MythSystem will log child startup with a specific path and arguments, and successes or failures with an error code
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[18:34:28] stuartm: Oleg_: two options – best one is to adjust the TV/Monitor, MythTV is displaying it exactly as it should appear, if it's too dark that's usually the fault of the monitor – but you can alter it within mythtv through the menu during playback (M), Video > Adjust Picture
[18:34:29] wagnerrp: according to those logs, it didn't even attempt to run the grabber script
[18:36:07] stuartm: Oleg_: well, there's a third option, if your TV/Monitor is properly configured and calibrated and the picture is too dark, that's because it's meant to be so dark (it's how it would appear in a cinema for example) :)
[18:36:23] brandon_dacrib: well lemme take a look in the mythtv-setup perhaps I missed something there where I would need to point it to the script
[18:36:52] wagnerrp: stuartm: without further logging, my guess is it failed out early due to an invalid path, or lack of execute permissions
[18:37:23] wagnerrp: would need to have SYSTEM logging to catch those
[18:37:49] Oleg_: stuartm, thanks
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[18:39:17] brandon_dacrib: where do I configure what script it uses to look for metadata?
[18:39:51] wagnerrp: frontend setup. you can either go through the setup wizard, or go into metadata settings
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[18:40:36] wagnerrp: setup --> artwork and data sources
[18:41:09] stuartm: wagnerrp: those two possibilities were my guess as well
[18:41:42] stuartm: those two should probably be GENERAL, ERR?
[18:44:02] brandon_dacrib: ok, so my backend doesn't actually have the frontend installed ... I can do this from any of my frontends?
[18:44:49] brandon_dacrib: I want it to be run on the backend and apply globally
[18:46:43] wagnerrp: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . acy.cpp#n156
[18:46:52] wagnerrp: yeah, seems those do log GENERAL, ERR
[18:46:58] wagnerrp: so if that were the fault, it would be logging
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[18:48:53] brandon_dacrib: ok that worked. thx.
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[18:49:35] wagnerrp: brandon_dacrib: yes. metadata grabbers are configured globally
[18:49:38] brandon_dacrib: I wonder if this broke during my upgrade to 0.27 of if I just hadn't looked at the logs in over a year.
[18:50:15] stuartm: brandon_dacrib: sounds like broken packages, metadata scripts should be part of the backend
[18:50:35] wagnerrp: and the frontend
[18:50:38] wagnerrp: they should be everywhere
[18:51:17] wagnerrp: i should probably start doing some actual work...
[18:51:33] wagnerrp: there's a site im supposed to migrate today
[18:51:50] wagnerrp: and i haven't even looked at the updated drawings, much less have the code read for them to migrate to
[18:51:58] brandon_dacrib: nice. thx.
[18:53:26] brandon_dacrib: I actually have the pleasure of migrating my companies irc server from 1 host to another this weekend
[18:53:44] brandon_dacrib: should be like a 10 minute job w/ dns changes and all
[18:53:46] wagnerrp: like a support channel?
[18:54:15] brandon_dacrib: well that
[18:54:20] brandon_dacrib: we have multiple rooms
[18:54:24] brandon_dacrib: internally
[18:54:42] brandon_dacrib: so there is like the system admins room + the developers have a room, there is a QA room, etc ...
[18:55:31] brandon_dacrib: so I basically am moving the service from an old machine we are going to retire to a tiny kvm instance somewhere
[18:57:45] wagnerrp: this, we're replacing some mechanical systems early next year, so i have to de-configure their controls in the code
[18:58:20] brandon_dacrib: I am going to use "de-configure"
[18:58:35] brandon_dacrib: de-configure/unfuck
[18:59:12] wagnerrp: please don't use that language in here
[18:59:33] brandon_dacrib: oh, sorry. un-mangle
[19:00:25] brandon_dacrib: how can I manually update all of the metadata for the Movies from the terminal?
[19:00:51] brandon_dacrib: mythmetadatalookup seems to only run for thetvdb
[19:01:30] wagnerrp: if the movies have subtitles in their guide data, mythtv might think they are television shows, and be treating them as such
[19:01:52] wagnerrp: otherwise, it should be running tmdb3.py
[19:05:16] brandon_dacrib: alright I will sort that out. thank you.
[19:05:30] wagnerrp: know any python?
[19:06:00] brandon_dacrib: in a read only capacity here
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[19:14:11] wagnerrp: almost done with a command line metadata scanner and he leaves...
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[20:16:51] StevenR: hrrm. I've noticed over the past few days that mythtv is failing to record. Also, the mythweb interface becomes very slow. I can restart it, but it fails again a couple of days later
[20:16:59] StevenR: I can't see anything in the logs
[20:19:08] wagnerrp: check for database damage
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[20:41:24] StevenR: wagnerrp: mysqlcheck -e (extended) suggests that it's OK.
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[23:21:04] buu: Ok, what the heck, how do I configure mythbackend to listen on 5943?
[23:21:52] [R]: you shoudln't be screwing around with te ports
[23:21:53] buu: Or 6543
[23:21:58] buu: [R]: Its not listening on *any* port
[23:22:05] [R]: what does it say when you start it
[23:22:23] [R]: and what makes you think its not listening
[23:22:44] buu: Not much
[23:22:50] buu: and netstat -nlp makes me think its not listening
[23:22:51] buu: 2013-12–21 17:20:09.699640 N MythBackend: Starting up as the master server.
[23:22:55] buu: 2013-12–21 17:20:09.913498 I Added logging to mythlogserver at TCP:35327
[23:23:06] buu: Also mythfrontend can't connect to it
[23:24:09] [R]: Dec 21 16:22:20 mythback mythlogserver: mythbackend[1139]: I CoreContext serverpool.cpp:395 (listen) Listening on TCP 127.0.0.1:6544
[23:24:15] [R]: Dec 21 16:22:21 mythback mythlogserver: mythbackend[1139]: I CoreContext serverpool.cpp:395 (listen) Listening on TCP 127.0.0.1:6543
[23:24:18] [R]: should be lines liek that
[23:24:29] buu: Nope
[23:24:50] buu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614275/
[23:27:09] [R]: has it never worked?
[23:28:46] buu: Sure, it worked yesterday
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[23:30:11] [R]: well things dont magically break
[23:30:12] [R]: what did you change
[23:30:32] MartinT: I did get that when I did a restart of the service a while back...
[23:30:41] buu: There was perhaps an apt-upgrade
[23:30:44] MartinT: i.e. service mythtv-backend restart
[23:31:03] MartinT: have you rebooted?
[23:31:10] buu: MartinT: No
[23:31:16] buu: Think it will help?
[23:31:28] MartinT: try to make sure that you have killed all the processes for myth then...
[23:31:41] buu: They dead
[23:31:41] MartinT: I ended up with a rogue process...
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[23:31:50] MartinT: sudo ps aux
[23:31:55] MartinT: sudo ps aux | grep myth
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[23:39:31] MartinT: buu: any joy?
[23:41:15] buu: Apparently rebooting solves all problems
[23:41:53] buu: The mind boggles.
[23:41:58] buu: But at least I got to update my kernel.
[23:42:04] MartinT: it was probably a rogue process
[23:42:23] buu: Unless the process wasn't named myth and wasn't listening on any port, it wasn't
[23:42:24] MartinT: i.e. the rogue process was hogging the port...
[23:42:27] ** buu shrugs **
[23:42:57] MartinT: meh, sorry that "have you tried turning it off and back on again" was the answer...
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[23:46:31] buu: I'm getting used to it
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