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Sunday, December 1st, 2013, 00:07 UTC
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[01:45:43] jm|laptop: def.mythconverg.jobqueue.jobqueue.status.status.?
[01:46:01] wagnerrp: huh?
[01:46:29] jm|laptop: hi wagnerrp. Debian recently upgraded "itself" to 0.27.0+fixes20131113-dmo1
[01:46:55] wagnerrp: i have to believe it was told to
[01:46:55] jm|laptop: when you move from one programme to the next in "Watch Recordings" there is a notable delay and lots of that store query[?] in tcpdump
[01:47:11] jm|laptop: well – it was part of a dist-upgrade :)
[01:47:20] jm|laptop: .&....4.M....SELECT status FROM jobqueue WHERE type = ? AND chanid = ? AND starttime = ?;
[01:47:39] jm|laptop: MySQL returned an empty result set (i.e. zero rows).
[01:47:42] jm|laptop: no queued jobs
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[01:49:07] jm|laptop: wagnerrp: that is selecting one programme to the next, from mysql.log http://pastebin.com/CYxq2q6G
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[01:49:45] jm|laptop: and the front end "freezes" while it happens, although it queues up keypresses/remote presses so you can never tell where you are
[01:52:12] wagnerrp: if your queries are taking any significant length, have you checked to see if your database is damaged in some manner?
[01:52:18] jm|laptop: that's odd
[01:52:42] jm|laptop: I have two frontends with the /exact/ same hardware
[01:52:52] jm|laptop: the 'bedroom' one is running 0.27.0-dmo3
[01:53:04] jm|laptop: and it still does a load of 8869 Prepare SELECT status FROM jobqueue WHERE type = ? AND chanid = ? AND starttime = ?
[01:53:11] jm|laptop: but it doesn't "freeze" the same
[01:53:22] jm|laptop: I guess I could just downgrade
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[01:54:54] jm|laptop: hm that broke it
[01:54:59] jm|laptop: 2013-12–01 01:55:07.392137 E No address defined for host: localhost
[01:54:59] jm|laptop: er
[01:55:40] jm|laptop: where is that defined? ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt is fine I think
[01:56:30] wagnerrp: we don't use mysql.txt any longer
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[01:58:38] wagnerrp: you have two frontends and one backend
[01:58:46] wagnerrp: is your functional frontend on the same machine as the backend?
[01:59:04] jm|laptop: no
[01:59:07] jm|laptop: backend is in the loft
[01:59:26] jm|laptop: I realise now Debian has upgraded a lot my mythtv packages
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[02:00:06] wagnerrp: well either way, you shouldn't be using 'localhost' for anything
[02:00:17] wagnerrp: for some reason, my internet has suddenly gotten very laggy
[02:00:25] jm|laptop: no indeed
[02:01:07] jm|laptop: I now have a fun mix of 0.27.0-dmo3 and 0.27.0+fixes20131113-dmo1
[02:01:25] wagnerrp: i don't know what 'dmo' means
[02:01:33] jm|laptop: downgrading mythlogserver mythtv-common mythtv-frontend and libmyth-0.27–0 has made it load, but still with the problem
[02:01:51] jm|laptop: wagnerrp: I was abouts to say – this is getting too distribution specific for you or this channel to care :)
[02:01:55] jm|laptop: I'll shut up.
[02:02:08] jm|laptop: I wonder if it's qt related :?
[02:02:31] jm|laptop: no
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[02:16:02] ** jm|laptop considers his own build :/ **
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[03:07:30] ctmjr: dmo=debian-multimedia-org
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[04:23:03] kichigai: Hey, is there any way to disable a tuner on my HVR-950Q? It shows up as two tuners, but only one of them is actually functional (the other is the analog tuner). I didn't configure it in mythtv-setup, nor can I find it in there.
[04:24:09] [R]: nothing is magic
[04:24:12] [R]: evertyhtign is configured in setup
[04:25:15] kichigai: Well, I'm telling you I'm not seeing it there.
[04:27:19] buu: kichigai: What makes you think its enabled?
[04:27:37] kichigai: Because it has recordings scheduled to run on it.
[04:27:57] kichigai: The end result is that it produces 0B recordings.
[04:29:28] kichigai: brb, O
[04:29:34] kichigai: I'm just going to switch off my laptop for a moment.
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[04:31:17] kichigai: I'm back.
[04:33:19] kichigai: I only have one card configured: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0, and yet it shows up as Encoders 3 and 4, both on the same card.
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[04:35:58] kichigai: If I could at least override which one it uses, manually, I'd be happy with that.
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[04:39:22] buu: Sorry, I got nothing
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[04:42:53] kichigai: Alright, well I figured it was worth a shot to ask.
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[04:59:25] Kwisher: kichigai: somewhere in the tuner setup there is an option for number of recordings
[05:02:09] Kwisher: recorder opions > max recordings
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[05:02:36] Kwisher: not sure if changing that to 1 will solve your problem
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[05:02:56] kichigai: That's the weird part, though: there's no conflicting recording. The damn thing is essentially idle for 90 minutes before, and 60 minutes after this one upcoming recording.
[05:06:49] wagnerrp: kichigai: they're called "virtual tuners"
[05:07:27] wagnerrp: it's how mythtv handles the fact that digital television is a data stream carrying multiple virtual channels on a single physical channel
[05:07:38] wagnerrp: and thus can actually record more than one channel at a time per tuner
[05:08:08] wagnerrp: changing the setting Kwisher mentioned to 1 will remove the second tuner
[05:08:21] wagnerrp: but it will not fix anything, as there is nothing wrong with what you're seeing
[05:08:47] wagnerrp: the zero byte recordings are caused by some independent issue, and posting backend logs would help determine what that is
[05:08:55] kichigai: If it can record multiple "channels" from the same ATSC stream, then why do they end up conflicting?
[05:09:14] wagnerrp: you said they weren't conflicting
[05:09:18] kichigai: If I end up with some 0B recordings this go-around I'll make sure to do a log dump.
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[05:09:51] Turtleee: Hello everybody...
[05:10:06] wagnerrp: are you actively using the analog tuner?
[05:10:23] kichigai: They aren't, but from the way you described that, it sounded like in situations where there were multiple recordings from two virtual channels on the same ATSC carrier, they would both be recorded.
[05:10:26] Turtleee: I try to use mythtv with Avermedia AverTV Usb 2.0, could someone tell me it will work, please?
[05:10:42] kichigai: And no, I'm not using the NTSC tuner. No one around here is using it any more. At least, no one I can pick up.
[05:11:08] wagnerrp: if you were, that device only actually has one tuner
[05:11:17] wagnerrp: using the analog tuner prevents the digital one from working
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[05:11:37] kichigai: wagnerrp, right. The whole stick pretty much has to reboot to change modes.
[05:11:38] wagnerrp: and similarly, using the digital tuner prevents the analog one from working
[05:11:46] kichigai: Turtleee, do you have a more accurate model number?
[05:12:16] Turtleee: model M0026
[05:12:27] Turtleee: sorry.. i mean Model M026
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[05:13:00] wagnerrp: when you plug it in, do you get a device node in /dev/dvb/ ?
[05:13:31] Turtleee: this question is to me? or to kichigai?
[05:13:39] wagnerrp: you
[05:14:02] Turtleee: no
[05:14:03] wagnerrp: we just use tuners here, we don't support them
[05:14:18] Turtleee: ahm
[05:14:24] wagnerrp: typically any basic tuner support gets sent to the #linuxtv project
[05:14:29] Turtleee: sorry, my english is terrible. Sorry a lot.
[05:14:37] wagnerrp: unless it's something common that someone in here has experience with
[05:14:41] Turtleee: i will try there then.
[05:14:51] wagnerrp: this is a DVB device?
[05:15:00] wagnerrp: DVB-T?
[05:15:01] Turtleee: yesterday i was there talking too but nobody talks..
[05:15:15] Turtleee: no... PDK/PBG/PI system
[05:15:47] wagnerrp: never heard of it
[05:16:07] Turtleee: hahahaha...
[05:16:24] wagnerrp: is this digital or analog?
[05:16:28] Turtleee: there is a paper paste over with these.. anyway it is analog
[05:16:48] wagnerrp: then it's either going to be NTSC, PAL, or SECAM
[05:17:07] Turtleee: NTSC
[05:17:14] wagnerrp: and considering you don't speak english well, it's not going to be NTSC
[05:17:38] Turtleee: but i think i could choose... when i was using it years ago with Window
[05:18:06] wagnerrp: actually, it seems NTSC is used some in south america
[05:18:11] kichigai: And JApan
[05:19:29] Turtleee: I will use PAL... but i used to have a selector to choose NTSC/PAL/SECAM and a S-Video too
[05:19:53] Turtleee: Anyway... noone can help me here? I will try in another room..
[05:19:58] wagnerrp: typically the capture devices support all formats, but the tuners are either going to be NTSC or PAL/SECAM
[05:19:58] Turtleee: thanks a lot for your time
[05:20:05] wagnerrp: it's rare to see one that supports all three
[05:20:16] wagnerrp: anyway, considering its analog, do you have a /dev/video0?
[05:20:43] Turtleee: no..
[05:20:50] Turtleee: Oh
[05:20:51] Turtleee: sorry
[05:21:24] Turtleee: I was looking for only "folders"
[05:21:41] Turtleee: I have a video0 file
[05:21:47] Turtleee: 0 kb
[05:22:02] wagnerrp: in that case, it seems your device is at least recognized by some driver
[05:22:52] Turtleee: when i use lsusb in terminal : Bus 002 Device 004: ID 07ca:0026 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. AVerTV
[05:23:09] Turtleee: so... my computer "feels" something
[05:23:30] wagnerrp: lsusb just enumerates devices on the bus. it only indicates something is physically connected
[05:23:44] Turtleee: ok, but i am stupid at all
[05:23:55] wagnerrp: reports of success or failure would be in 'dmesg'
[05:24:08] wagnerrp: and if you have a /dev/video0, it was at least partially successful
[05:24:25] Turtleee: [ 2597.904057] usb 2–3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[05:24:26] Turtleee: [ 2598.037258] usb 2–3: New USB device found, idVendor=07ca, idProduct=0026
[05:24:26] Turtleee: [ 2598.037266] usb 2–3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[05:24:26] Turtleee: [ 2598.037269] usb 2–3: Product: AVerTV USB 2.0
[05:24:26] Turtleee: [ 2598.037272] usb 2–3: Manufacturer: AVerMedia
[05:24:27] Turtleee: [ 2598.136114] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[05:24:30] kichigai: Stop
[05:24:41] kichigai: Please use Pastebin.com for log dumps like that.
[05:24:54] Turtleee: kichigai: sorry, only the last lines. I know I know, sorry
[05:25:07] kichigai: No problem, I'm just glad it wasn't like twenty lines.
[05:25:38] wagnerrp: it's never 20 lines... freenode flood control kicks in after eight
[05:25:51] wagnerrp: usually someone is around to kick the user before the 20th line trickles in
[05:26:00] kichigai: You can still *paste* 20 in there, though.
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[05:27:22] Turtleee: i will come back in a while
[05:27:27] Turtleee: thanks for everything
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[05:27:48] wagnerrp: anyway, the device seems to work, but now youhave to find someone who has actually used an analog framegrabber recently and knows how to configure it
[05:27:51] wagnerrp: and... he left
[05:30:45] kichigai: Funny thing is that I vaguely remember setting up my PVR-150
[05:30:53] kichigai: *Way* back in the day.
[05:30:58] kichigai: Still have that thing...
[05:32:57] tonsofpcs: /dev/video0 ?
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[05:33:24] kichigai: I think so. It wasn't treated as a DVB card
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[05:35:23] Turtleee: I am going to uninstall mythtv.. it crashs me because.. ¿¿localhost??
[05:35:26] Turtleee: it is weird
[05:35:39] kichigai: Change localhost to your IP address.
[05:35:46] kichigai: That might help
[05:36:12] Turtleee: my computer ip?
[05:36:26] kichigai: Yes
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[05:40:36] Turtleee: uhmm... this is not cool.. hehehe
[05:40:44] Turtleee: Thank You for everything
[05:41:00] Turtleee: I just got a chaos in my computer
[05:41:03] Turtleee: Bye bye!!
[05:41:04] Turtleee: :D
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[05:41:28] kichigai: "a chaos"?
[05:41:35] kichigai: This is weirder than George's Tickets
[05:42:10] wagnerrp: kichigai: the PVR-150 is an encoder card, meaning it just gives you audio and video in a nice mpeg container
[05:42:43] wagnerrp: whatever avermedia junk he has is almost certainly a framegrabber, meaning mythtv needs to separately capture and encode the raw audio and video
[05:42:49] wagnerrp: it's a lot more clumsy to set up
[05:43:22] wagnerrp: your -950 is actually a framegrabber as well, were you to attempt to use the analog side of it
[05:43:37] kichigai: wagnerrp, correct, though I think it was *to a degree* treated as a frame grabber. Either way, that was like way back in 0.16 when 2.4.20 was the "risky" kernel to compile, so my experience there is probably worthless anyway.
[05:44:03] kichigai: Also correct about the 950Q
[05:44:43] wagnerrp: were there even drives for that card on the 2.4 kernel?
[05:45:09] kichigai: 950Q?
[05:45:14] kichigai: Hells no.
[05:45:20] kichigai: The card didn't even exist then.
[05:45:20] wagnerrp: -150
[05:45:29] kichigai: Ahh, yes there were.
[05:45:39] kichigai: And it was a damn good card.
[05:45:43] wagnerrp: i think i first used ivtv on 2.6.12
[05:45:56] wagnerrp: because back then, the ivtv version numbers followed the kernel version
[05:46:06] wagnerrp: 0.2 was for .12, 0.4 was for .14, etc...
[05:46:08] kichigai: I had built on top of a Debian install, I think.
[05:46:24] kichigai: So basically when I was using it the thing was running on stone-age libraries.
[05:46:55] kichigai: There was much compiling.
[05:47:30] kichigai: Of course, that was also back when an HP Pavlion with 512MB of RAM being driven by a Celeron 600 was enough to get the job done.
[05:47:41] kichigai: Best $75 I ever spent.
[05:47:54] kichigai: Well... maybe not, but it's right up there.
[05:49:55] wagnerrp: 512MB of memory won't even compile mythtv these days
[05:50:17] wagnerrp: hasnt for several years
[05:50:40] kichigai: This was back in my high school years.
[05:50:40] wagnerrp: i think somewhere on 0.22, i started getting OOM errors with -j2 on a 1GB machine
[05:50:57] wagnerrp: maybe 0.21
[06:06:31] kichigai: Well, this was back when NTSC was *the* tech, and TNN was still a cable channel.
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[14:16:35] plut0: is there any documentation on mysql tuning? i'm getting heavy, heavy /tmp usage that is causing performance problems
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[14:36:18] sheptard: plut0: https://raw.github.com/major/MySQLTuner-perl/ . . . ysqltuner.pl
[14:36:20] sheptard: I think that
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[14:46:18] plut0: sheptard: and what does this do exactly?
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[14:51:04] wagnerrp: sheptard: he's looking to improve his my.cnf
[14:51:31] wagnerrp: plut0: there are several example configs that ship with mysql
[14:51:39] wagnerrp: grab medium.cnf or something
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[15:00:09] plut0: wagnerrp: thanks. looks like it was optimized already
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[19:12:49] plut0: was there regression in the 0.27 20131130 build? i'm having extremely poor performance since i upgraded
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[19:41:56] xris: weird. recompiled and now stuck at http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11836#comment:2
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[20:02:48] BabThooka: When I have multiple DVB-C cards working on linux (I can w_scan all my channels from all of them), and I have added them to MythTV (@ Input connections), and have added the same video source to all of them – Should I not be able to cycle from input to input with the 'C' key while watching TV?
[20:03:19] BabThooka: It seems now I can only watch TV through one of them...
[20:03:41] dashs: Is there a wiki entry or doc that discusses how group id is assigned for recordings?
[20:06:12] sphery: BabThooka: not the C key--you need to bind a key to NEXTINPUT
[20:06:28] sphery: or just use MENU (M), then select a source
[20:06:44] sphery: there's no key bound, by default, to NEXTINPUT
[20:06:55] sphery: (or NEXTCARD)
[20:08:01] sphery: meaning, replace NEXTINPUT in what I said, above, with NEXTCARD
[20:08:09] sphery: (nextinput is next input on the same card)
[20:10:56] BabThooka: OK, thanks, I'll try that..
[20:22:52] BabThooka: Thanks, that worked! Is there a way to do this automatically? I have a fronted running on my laptop, and if I watch a channel on it, my HTPC isn't working as it should because one single DVBC input is taken – do I really have to manually switch between inputs?
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[20:47:50] ** xris glares at vaapi **
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[20:54:59] xris: did something change at some point to require qt5?
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[22:27:57] anasuarez: hola
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[22:39:05] Nindustries: Has anyone tried running mythTV in ESxi?
[22:39:40] anasuarez: hola
[22:39:53] xris: grumble. very weird, mythtv configure says I have no opengl
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[22:53:39] BabThooka: Is there any way to have MythTV automatically switch DVB input in live-tv instead of keep trying to use a DVB input that is busy?
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[23:29:17] xris: wtf ld: cannot find -lopengl32
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[23:34:43] jm|laptop: . o O ( dpkg --add-architecture i386 )
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[23:53:50] xris: more insight... /usr/bin/ld: warning: libnvidia-tls.so.304.51, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.2/../../../../lib64/libGL.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
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