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[00:04:19] | buu: | Wait, lircd says Windows Media Center Transceivers/Remotes (all) |
[00:04:28] | buu: | And it supports "any" |
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[03:54:59] | mrguitar: | anyone have time to chat about frontend hardware? |
[03:57:32] | wagnerrp: | shoot |
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[04:26:21] | buu: | mrguitar: Yes, give up now, all it gets you is ENDLESS FUCKING PAIN |
[04:26:32] | mrguitar: | heh |
[04:26:46] | mrguitar: | opps sorry wagnerrp I missed your ping |
[04:27:07] | mrguitar: | So I've had really good luck using cheap DIYs from Fry's w/ Nvidia cards |
[04:27:18] | wagnerrp: | please watch the language |
[04:27:47] | mrguitar: | but I'm going for a smaller footprint now. |
[04:27:50] | buu: | I just built a frontend box and now it refuses to turn on =[ |
[04:27:54] | buu: | And I'm very, very, very sad. |
[04:28:11] | mrguitar: | I saw a few threads on the list about various zboxes |
[04:28:43] | mrguitar: | they're a little expensive, but look pretty good. Any thoughts on these or similar units? |
[04:28:58] | wagnerrp: | this would be a dedicated frontend? |
[04:29:02] | mrguitar: | yeah |
[04:29:21] | wagnerrp: | atom with nvidia graphics? |
[04:29:27] | mrguitar: | preferably |
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[04:30:29] | wagnerrp: | as always, when you're dealing with that sort of thing, it's all up to the content and whether the graphics card can handle it |
[04:30:41] | wagnerrp: | if it works, it works great |
[04:30:47] | wagnerrp: | if not, you have no CPU to fall back on |
[04:31:50] | wagnerrp: | that said, there are a lot of uses using those things |
[04:32:48] | buu: | Does zbox come with an nvidia card? |
[04:32:48] | mrguitar: | vadpau seems to work perfectly for OTA mpeg2 streams |
[04:33:03] | mrguitar: | buu: some have nvidia Ions |
[04:33:29] | mrguitar: | I still wish there was a better netflix on linux (or myth) option |
[04:33:35] | ** mrguitar will keep dreaming ** | |
[04:33:48] | wagnerrp: | sadly, you're not going to see that on an open system |
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[04:42:40] | clever: | android is the closest we have |
[04:43:45] | clever: | if the old android simulator was un-retired, you might be able to run netflix on linux thru it |
[04:49:27] | mrguitar: | another annoying question. I've never messed w/ a blueray drive. Does basic playback work? or will those need to be ripped beforehand and streamed |
[04:49:48] | mrguitar: | last time I looked into blueray & linux it wasn't pretty |
[04:50:02] | wagnerrp: | ideally, long term content gets ripped and stored on a media server |
[04:50:17] | wagnerrp: | for short term content, like rentals, mythtv does have direct playback capability |
[04:50:25] | wagnerrp: | within the limits of open source decryption |
[04:50:36] | wagnerrp: | which is limited to AACS, no BD+ |
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[04:51:12] | wagnerrp: | for direct playback of any recent content, you're better off just having a standalone player |
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[04:52:51] | mrguitar: | perfect. So I think I'm looking at a stand-alone blueray player w/ netflix support & a zbox frontend. |
[04:53:02] | mrguitar: | can anyone think of a better combo? |
[05:01:29] | mrguitar: | I've been dual-booting windows so the kids can watch netflix. It works, but my god I hate running windows |
[05:16:36] | mrguitar: | I think I'm going to order a ZBOX-ID41-U |
[05:16:46] | mrguitar: | any objections or better alternatives? |
[05:42:15] | buu: | On a scale of 1 to massive overkill, how overkill is it to install a gpu in a box with an i7 that's just operating mythfront/backend ? |
[05:44:09] | mrguitar: | buu: honestly it's not overkill at all |
[05:44:19] | buu: | really? |
[05:44:30] | mrguitar: | get a cheap fanless nvidia card that supports vadpau and you'll never look back |
[05:44:36] | buu: | What's the improvement? |
[05:44:39] | mrguitar: | we're talking like $40–70 |
[05:44:44] | buu: | Sure |
[05:44:52] | mrguitar: | HD decoding will not use your CPU |
[05:45:22] | mrguitar: | it will off load to the card, and this will free up your processor for fun stuff like comflagging or transcoding |
[05:45:26] | buu: | Sure but its an 8core chip, what else is the cpu doing? |
[05:45:37] | mrguitar: | how many tuners? |
[05:45:39] | buu: | 4 |
[05:45:40] | mrguitar: | how many drivers? |
[05:45:51] | mrguitar: | drives* |
[05:45:51] | buu: | drivers? |
[05:45:58] | buu: | oh, 2 |
[05:47:06] | mrguitar: | so I wouldn't still off load it. If nothing else your processor will run at a lower clock speed and use a *lot* less power |
[05:47:12] | mrguitar: | which matters in the long run |
[05:49:02] | buu: | Fair enough |
[05:49:11] | buu: | Any particular geforce? I need a low height one |
[05:52:05] | mrguitar: | I don't keep up w/ the models. I've just always sourced the newest model at a low price on amazon or newegg |
[05:52:41] | mrguitar: | just make sure it supports vdpau, 1/2 height, and you like the outputs |
[05:52:53] | mrguitar: | I always go fanless on gpus as well |
[05:57:44] | buu: | Sounds reasonable |
[05:58:35] | mrguitar: | this was the last card I bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500205 |
[05:58:52] | mrguitar: | it's prefect, but I'm sure there's something newer/better out now |
[05:59:46] | buu: | Oh hey, do you know anything about ir receivers? |
[06:02:24] | buu: | Also this "list of supported gpus" IS THE MOST CONFUSING LIST EVER |
[06:05:21] | buu: | Can video card hdmi output passthrough audio signals? |
[06:06:09] | hollajandro: | yes, if the card supports it |
[06:10:34] | buu: | hollajandro: How uh, do you tell that? |
[06:10:47] | mrguitar: | buu: the streamzap remote comes w/ a great reciever |
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[06:11:16] | mrguitar: | I just bought one of these for the reciever: http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY%C2%AE-Wireless-R . . . anoxy+remote |
[06:11:25] | mrguitar: | no idea how well it works yet though |
[06:11:40] | ** mrguitar is hitting the pillow ** | |
[06:11:48] | mrguitar: | good night |
[06:12:02] | buu: | bye bye =[ |
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[06:14:06] | buu: | Ah-ha http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x . . . edchips.html |
[06:14:11] | buu: | I have done magic! |
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[06:34:10] | hollajandro: | buu: you would have to look at the card specs or mythtv can display the cards capabilities somewhere too if I'm not mistaken |
[06:36:55] | buu: | hollajandro: I found the geforce.com pages, surely any manufacturer supports those specs |
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[07:39:58] | hollajandro: | buu: probably any decent nvidia card would, more than likely any decent card now days supports it |
[07:40:11] | buu: | hollajandro: Yeah, seems like it. |
[07:40:23] | buu: | hollajandro: The wiki talks about cards from like 2003 |
[07:40:30] | hollajandro: | I know some won't do 7.1 |
[07:40:34] | hollajandro: | but will do 5.1 |
[07:40:56] | buu: | The site claims gt610 and gt620 will both do 7.1, but I only need 5.1 anyways. |
[07:41:13] | buu: | I'm heading to frys tomorrow to replace my damn psu, trying to decide if I need any other fun toys |
[07:41:31] | hollajandro: | ahh |
[07:41:31] | buu: | At the moment I'm trying to talk myself out of upgrading an i5–3550 to an i7–4770 |
[07:41:56] | hollajandro: | I built a zeebox last year and never looked back |
[07:42:00] | hollajandro: | had an intel before that |
[07:42:06] | hollajandro: | er not built |
[07:42:07] | hollajandro: | bought |
[07:42:21] | buu: | What the heck is a zeebox |
[07:42:30] | buu: | free app with you while you watch tv? |
[07:42:37] | hollajandro: | err |
[07:42:39] | hollajandro: | not that |
[07:42:41] | buu: | -_- |
[07:42:43] | hollajandro: | lol sec |
[07:43:21] | buu: | Anyway I realize I'm deep in the the realm of first world problems but I had an "old" linux server I used for linux stuff and it has the i5 in it, then I bought new components for my mythbox and got an i7 |
[07:43:28] | buu: | Now my server feels unloved |
[07:43:36] | hollajandro: | ahh |
[07:43:55] | buu: | hollajandro: zbox you mean? |
[07:44:16] | hollajandro: | yeah |
[07:44:20] | hollajandro: | sorry its late |
[07:44:34] | buu: | And yeah, that looked really nice, but I needed a box I could put my coax capture card in |
[07:44:42] | buu: | Since I don't have wiring in the house =[ |
[07:44:42] | hollajandro: | ahh |
[07:44:59] | buu: | Turns out myth isn't really happy streaming live tv wirelessly |
[07:45:05] | hollajandro: | yeah I am renting this place and had to run a wire out of my office and down to my living room through the windows :/ |
[07:45:11] | buu: | ! |
[07:45:11] | hollajandro: | hidden under the siding |
[07:45:13] | hollajandro: | but still |
[07:45:50] | hollajandro: | yeah I tried wireless once.. |
[07:45:52] | buu: | At some point the cable company wired this house with new-ish cable and they decided the best way to do it was run it down the outside of the house from the eves of the attic then drill in through the brick outside wall |
[07:46:05] | hollajandro: | they always do that crap |
[07:46:11] | hollajandro: | this place had dish or something |
[07:46:15] | hollajandro: | and it has holes all over the outside |
[07:46:23] | buu: | blech |
[07:46:24] | hollajandro: | cables running all over |
[07:46:38] | buu: | Yeah.. we've got some random wires outside we have no idea what they do |
[07:46:41] | buu: | Maybe an alarm system |
[07:47:01] | buu: | The new wireless AC stuff is pretty decent, fast enough for me at least, just not 'stable' enough for live tv |
[07:47:14] | hollajandro: | AC? |
[07:47:22] | buu: | The successor to wireless N? |
[07:47:26] | hollajandro: | ah |
[07:47:36] | buu: | It does a theoretical 1300mbps |
[07:47:43] | hollajandro: | I have a couple of those powerline adaptors |
[07:47:47] | buu: | oh yeah |
[07:47:49] | hollajandro: | but they are too slow for streaming |
[07:47:55] | buu: | The only do like 100mbps right? |
[07:47:56] | hollajandro: | this stuff up here is on a different circuit |
[07:48:10] | hollajandro: | i don't recall |
[07:48:15] | hollajandro: | it depends on the connection |
[07:49:45] | hollajandro: | mine say 500 |
[07:49:46] | hollajandro: | hah |
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[13:12:15] | DavidBrooke: | I'm look for an easy way to test video drivers, mythtv, etc.... |
[13:13:35] | DavidBrooke: | my thought is to get a stable base of an OS and mythtv working....then copy that to another partition and somehow do something to grub to allow it to boot... |
[13:15:00] | DavidBrooke: | this way I could change the drivers, some of which are from git, and if it get borked then I can just erase it and strat over |
[13:17:59] | DavidBrooke: | one of the reasons for doing this....some older distro's can take over an hour to install and update...and then you start setting it up |
[13:20:32] | Merlin83b: | It'd probably be easier to take a snapshot of it in a set up state, either using LVM or the whole thing under virtualisation like KVM. |
[13:31:43] | DavidBrooke: | Is there a way to just copy the whole thing then do something to allow it to boot? Meaning....if I installed ubuntu on a partition and then installed mythtv. Can I copy all that to another partition ans setup grub or whatever handles the boot part of it...and that be a working copy of the original? |
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[19:24:31] | Moeabm: | Im looking to have SMTP notifications when a job fails. Anyone have ideas about how to do this? I've thought of having my user job script trigger the email but I would rather have mythtv trigger the email on job failure. |
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[19:31:36] | Moeabm: | im on 0.26.0 |
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[19:58:42] | sphery: | Moeabm: no way to do so, now... ideally, you'd write a patch to include a Job started/finished and, possibly, Job failed MythTV System Event ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events ), then write a generic script that triggers on job finished and sends an e-mail if job failed |
[19:59:16] | sphery: | so, now, you need to have the job script send the e-mail (though it can call a generic script that sends the e-mail) on completion |
[20:00:37] | wizbit: | at last, the flat i live in has fixed the roof atenna :-) |
[20:00:40] | wizbit: | *antenna |
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[20:47:31] | Moeabm: | Thanks sphery. I'll work on that. Thanks for the tip! |
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[21:56:35] | mengoshmink: | Moeabm, Take a look at Mythbrake, that mails out information depending on results, it maybe of some help |
[21:56:40] | mengoshmink: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythbrake |
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