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Monday, November 4th, 2013, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:21] skd5aner: I use undelete every now and then...
[00:00:29] skd5aner: hollajandro: what version?
[00:00:48] hollajandro: .26
[00:00:51] stuartm: hollajandro: I assume you mean undelete them from within the frontend?
[00:00:51] skd5aner: hollajandro: also, make sure you change your filter back to "all recordings" after you switched in to deleted to undelete them
[00:01:09] hollajandro: no i used mythweb to undelete them
[00:01:22] skd5aner: hollajandro: oh, uh... I've never used mythweb to undelete
[00:01:41] skd5aner: let me try it now and see if that works for me
[00:01:44] stuartm: ah, well that I've never tried and I could well believe it's broken as mythweb hasn't been maintained for a while
[00:02:10] hollajandro: as far as i can tell it moved them back into the default recording group, but they are not there
[00:02:15] hollajandro: on the front end
[00:02:45] skd5aner: hollajandro: yea, I just tried it in mythweb... it appears to be broken
[00:02:52] skd5aner: and that was on 0.27
[00:02:52] hollajandro: ok
[00:03:12] skd5aner: However, it works fine in the UI for 0.26 and 0.27... do you know how to do it that way?
[00:03:57] hollajandro: yeah I can do that. I wonder if I will have to delete them in mythweb to undelete them in the front end
[00:03:59] skd5aner: hollajandro: just push menu (M), Change group filter, and thene deleted... then you can select undelete from the menu of the recording, and go back in to the all programs group
[00:04:18] skd5aner: I don't even see the recording I undeleted in Mythweb
[00:04:21] skd5aner: not sure what happened to it
[00:04:35] hollajandro: weird...it moved all mine back into the normal recordings group
[00:04:53] skd5aner: yea, it's not in my deleted group, or in my all programs group
[00:05:26] skd5aner: it's almost like it permanently deleted it, or at least the metadata...
[00:05:42] hollajandro: do you guys know if there is a win32 binary for the .26 front end floating around?
[00:07:07] skd5aner: hollajandro: actually, I just tried with a different recording...
[00:07:26] skd5aner: hollajandro: and it seemed to work just fine... I can play it back and everything
[00:07:45] skd5aner: maybe I hit "delete" or something... I don't think so, but possibly?!
[00:08:02] hollajandro: alright
[00:08:06] skd5aner: weird...
[00:08:25] skd5aner: so, what are you seeing if you undelete them in mythweb, you can actually see them in your watch recordings list on the frontend?
[00:09:02] skd5aner: you said you thought they were going back to the default recording group, correct?
[00:09:32] hollajandro: no just in mythweb, I don't run mythfrontend, just xbmc with cmyth, so it may have something to do with that, I just wanted to know if there was some known reason out there why this happened
[00:09:45] hollajandro: it could be and probably is cmyth not seeing something correctly if its working for you
[00:10:01] skd5aner: hollajandro: well, sorry that my first test showed one behavior and my next test showed a different...
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[00:10:39] skd5aner: but, I know it works fine everytime when mythweb isn't in the picture
[00:11:35] skd5aner: hollajandro: just tried again, and worked fine again
[00:12:04] skd5aner: mythweb delete, mythweb undelete
[00:12:10] skd5aner: appears back in the list
[00:12:21] hollajandro: k
[00:12:30] skd5aner: also did a mythfrontend delete and a mythweb undelete
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[01:34:02] skd5aner: interesting, mark finally has tagged a 1.0 dev branch of torc a few hours ago – not sure if that means anything as far as usability, but an interesting milestone none-the-least
[01:55:25] Korny: Any idea why blueabstract isn't showing up in 0.27 theme chooser and on a fresh install my channel icons are missing :(
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[02:22:02] kwtm: If I have a recording rule which MythTV (front end) acknowledges to be active, but it says "can't find the file" (and there is no file at /path/to/my/recordings), is the log that I should check /var/log/mythbackend.log or is it some other log file?
[02:31:36] plut0: i can't seem to tune certain channels on my hdhr prime, the frontend just hangs and the logs show, HDHRStreamHandler mpeg/mpegstreamdata.cpp:1976 (ProcessEncryptedPacket) PID 0x1614 status: Encrypted. why is this happening?
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[04:32:58] bill6502: Korny: Did you do: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_icons#Universal_Location and rescan your icons to remove their full path names
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[04:51:58] hollajandro: kwtm: yeah that would be the location of the log file
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[04:53:20] hollajandro: plut0: have you tried connecting to the web interface of the hdhr prime and looking at what its logs say after trying to tune using myth?
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[14:18:46] skd5aner: Korny: you might have to go in and make sure your icons in your channels table in the database don't have the full path. It should be just the filename
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[15:03:19] skd5aner: 6TB drives now – http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/04/helium_drives_from_hgst/
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[15:07:56] skd5aner: maybe the most impressive thing I got out of that, is that it comes with a 5 year warranty – I thought those had gone the way of the dodo in consumer hard drives
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[15:19:27] SteveGoodey: Let's see Windows defrag that.
[15:22:18] skd5aner: heh
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[15:38:24] stuartm: I wonder just how good those seals really are, or will most drives end up failing because the seal failed?
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[15:41:09] stuartm: skd5aner: someone suggests in the comments that the 5 year warranty is to help adoption of a largely untested new technology, which sounds right
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[15:44:01] dekarl-work: the news is out for hours and still no entertaining pictures to share about funny voices coming soon to a netflix near you ;)
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[16:21:00] skd5aner: dekarl-work: ?
[16:22:23] dekarl-work: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/04/helium_drives_from_hgst/ the german news have this part way more prominent (though there is no netflix in germany) "Customers such as Netflix, ... have been testing prototype drives. "
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[16:22:56] skd5aner: ah, haha – I missed the connection of the joke, but funny none the less ;)
[16:23:45] dekarl-work: http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto& . . . n-Kapazitaet
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[16:24:08] skd5aner: I just love how there is a limited amount of helium in the world, and there's constant "doomsayer" news about how the reserves are running out... so, let's put it in hard drives!!
[16:24:28] skd5aner: Now HD prices are going to be relative to the helium market?? ;-)
[16:25:25] Merlin83b2: If it's airtight, they should just vacuum the inside. Even less turbulence/friction.
[16:26:49] dekarl-work: or simply use an SSD with no gas inside the chips
[16:27:25] dekarl-work: skd5aner: so I get a discount if I trade in my old helium balloon?
[16:33:32] Merlin83b2: lol
[16:37:02] stuartm: Merlin83b2: vacuum would be a very good way of trapping in the heat generated at the spindle
[16:38:06] Merlin83b2: That's a good point.
[16:38:19] Merlin83b2: This is why I'm not a hard disk designer :)
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[21:02:10] wizbit: when i try and play a .flac in mythfrontend it says no decoder available for this format
[21:02:24] wizbit: i have all the flac stuff compiled and nothing is missing from all mythplugins deps
[21:02:53] skd5aner: in mythmusic?
[21:02:57] wizbit: yes
[21:04:28] skd5aner: what's your frontend log say?
[21:04:47] wizbit: i think i might need to scan for new music
[21:04:51] wizbit: i will test again after that!
[21:06:09] skd5aner: and what version of mythtv?
[21:06:43] wizbit: latest git
[21:06:48] wizbit: 0.27
[21:06:56] skd5aner: yea, shouldn't have any issues with flac
[21:07:06] wizbit: i think the paths were wrong
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[21:29:57] wizbit: music plays now :-)
[21:31:21] wizbit: why do you have to keep adding music to a playlist before mythmusic can play the music?
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[23:11:11] buu_: Hrm
[23:11:14] buu_: Anyone alive?
[23:11:36] buu_: Is there someway to convince linux/x/mythtv to recognize remote keys it isn't detecting in xec?
[23:11:40] buu_: xev*
[23:17:15] clever: is the remote a keyboard or lirc device?
[23:17:37] buu_: clever: keyboard apparently
[23:17:42] buu_: Do I need to turn it into a lirc device?
[23:17:50] clever: depends on what it is
[23:18:06] clever: did you just plug it in and it worked?
[23:18:11] buu_: Yu
[23:18:12] buu_: yup
[23:18:18] buu_: I get about half the keys working
[23:18:44] clever: sounds the same as one of my cheap ones, it cheats in a lot of places, the close button just sends alt+f4
[23:18:54] clever: some of the special buttons are just ctrl+alt+f1
[23:19:07] buu_: Shouldn't that show up in xev?
[23:19:15] clever: yeah
[23:19:54] clever: things like myth and mplayer may not like it though, i used lirc with the uinput driver to just convert it to an lirc device
[23:20:27] clever: hmmm, where did that config file go...
[23:20:51] buu_: Hrm, what is keycode 171?
[23:21:04] clever: no clue
[23:22:21] buu_: Ok that actually gives me more of a clue
[23:22:25] buu_: I think I can fix most of the keys now
[23:22:29] buu_: Except channel up and down!
[23:23:18] clever: only thing i can think of is to check dmesg
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[23:23:36] buu_: No joy there =[
[23:23:38] clever: if the remote is sending codes that xorg cant identify, it may not inform the x clients
[23:23:42] clever: or the xorg logs
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[23:26:19] buu_: Yeah..
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[23:37:27] buu: Hmph.
[23:37:31] buu: LINUX REMOTES ARE HARD.
[23:41:24] wizbit: install lirc, make sure correct kernel modules have loaded, make sure lircd.conf is correct. test with irw. job done
[23:41:27] wizbit: easy
[23:42:27] clever: wizbit: except the remote is trying to cheat the hard part, it identifies itself as a keyboard
[23:42:48] wizbit: blacklist the module
[23:43:18] clever: it likely uses the same module as the real keyboard
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[23:53:38] buu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634785
[23:53:41] buu: This seems to be a way forward
[23:53:44] buu: I'm going to try it in a sec
[23:54:40] buu: On a slightly different note, all usb-ir receivers are the same right?
[23:54:56] buu: Like I have this crappy siig remote with an ir receiver but if I upgrade to a different remote will the receiver still work?
[23:55:28] clever: if its acting directly as a keyboard, then it likely wont work with any other remote
[23:55:42] clever: if it was a proper ir receiver, you would need lirc to make it work, and it would work on any remote lirc supports
[23:55:58] buu: =[
[23:56:04] buu: Where do I get a proper ir receiver?
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