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Thursday, October 31st, 2013, 00:00 UTC
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[00:24:28] Oleg_: what the hell... I am recording a show right now and when I turn on closed captioning, it displays the stuff completely unrelated to what people are saying
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[01:22:20] J-e-f-f-A: Yahoo... Tuning adapter is working now — had 2 things wrong — 1) Had to plug it in directly to the PC, not through a hub, and 2) Had to run as ROOT, not via sudo...
[01:22:38] wagnerrp: neither of those make sense
[01:23:23] J-e-f-f-A: wagnerrp: Well, it didn't work through the hub – well, it seemed to start to work, but then became un-detected.
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[01:25:56] J-e-f-f-A: Oh, and #3 – connect it to the ceton virtual ethernet adapter... ie 'ctntad --interface=ctn0'
[01:25:56] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3 **
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[01:28:37] J-e-f-f-A: The wiki entry mentions running it as root or it won't work – but didn't mention the flag to connect to the ceton virtual ethernet controller.
[01:29:25] J-e-f-f-A: But – it's working. ;-) So I'm a happy camper. And it looks like everything except the movie channels is either not tagged, or tagged 'Copy Freely' – which makes me happy too.
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[03:28:28] hollajandro: would anyone be able to tell me why when a recording is undeleted and moved out of the deleted recordings group it still does not show up in the front end in the default recordings group?
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[05:41:48] buu: Help!
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[07:37:03] buu: I'm trying to get a ceton infinitv pcie card working to view live tv without a cable card installed
[07:37:09] buu: but nothing I'm trying is giving me the slightest clue
[07:37:20] buu: 2013-10–31 02:31:36.052149 E CetonSH(::-1): Program number failed to clear
[07:37:25] buu: 2013-10–31 02:31:38.154905 E CetonSH(::-1): TuneProgram(0) – Requested program not in the program list
[07:37:56] buu: Is that a sign schedule is incorrect?
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[11:01:43] wagnerrp: buu: you are trying to tune channels that you manually scanned?
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[11:22:04] buu: wagnerrp: Um, no, these are from schedule direct.
[11:26:50] wagnerrp: you cannot tune digital channels directly from a lineup pulled from schedules direct
[11:26:53] wagnerrp: you must scan
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[11:27:43] wagnerrp: cablecard channels (if you had a cablecard) are an exception
[11:27:55] wagnerrp: since mythtv does not go through a traditional digital tuning process
[11:28:11] buu: I'm trying to tune clear qam channels at the moment
[11:28:13] buu: with no cable card
[11:28:13] wagnerrp: but hands off a single channel to the cablecard tuner to perform internally
[11:28:24] wagnerrp: right, so you need to scan, like any other digital tuner
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[11:28:31] buu: ok
[11:29:33] buu: I'll try that when I have access to it again.
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[15:03:58] Oleg_: so, I asked this question yesterday:
[15:04:00] Oleg_: what the hell... I am recording a show right now and when I turn on closed captioning, it displays the stuff completely unrelated to what people are saying
[15:04:14] Oleg_: the question is, why is it so?
[15:05:05] Oleg_: what I am saying is that CC didn't correspond at all to what people in specific scenes were saying
[15:05:23] Oleg_: I never had this problem before
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[15:14:17] sphery: was it the proper dialog, but offset in time or completely wrong
[15:14:42] sphery: if the former, it may be a problem with mythtv, if the latter, it's a problem at the broadcaster/network
[15:14:52] sphery: Oleg_: ^^^
[15:16:01] Oleg_: you mean audio?
[15:17:42] Oleg_: you're asking if audio was in sync with what people were saying?
[15:18:21] kisak: I think he means the content of the closed captioning and the audio
[15:20:08] skd5aner: Oleg_: you said the CC is not the same as the audio, spehery is asking if the CC is just not aligned in time with the dialog, or if the CC is completely wrong and nothing that is showing on screen has anything to do with any dialog ever said in the show
[15:20:44] Oleg_: yeah, the CC seems to be completely wrong
[15:21:51] kisak: odds are it was an encoder error by the system that published the channel stream
[15:25:38] skd5aner: Oleg_: issue only one 1 channel, or all channels?
[15:25:43] skd5aner: Oleg_: which country?
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[15:32:25] Oleg_: it was an episode of Revolution in NYC and I think the CC showed some parts from the exchange that the candidates for mayor of NYC had
[15:33:38] Oleg_: so, before Revolution switched to a commercial break, the CC was normal
[15:34:01] Oleg_: but when it came back, the CC displayed the stuff that was said during the mayoral debate
[15:34:35] Oleg_: after another commercial break, the CC became regular again
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[15:40:49] ctmjr: so the broadcaster screwed up and fixed it during the break
[15:41:11] Pr0f_: I've had that happen before
[15:41:44] Pr0f_: only like once though
[15:41:49] Pr0f_: broadcasters are people too
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[19:34:46] duffrecords: I have a single backend on a wired network and two frontends on Wi-Fi. there's a bit of latency, of course, but once playback begins it's no longer noticeable. however, browsing the video gallery is very slow because the latency is exposed each time a hi-res image is retrieved. is there a way to cache this data locally on the clients (and perhaps sync it periodically)?
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[19:51:21] stuartm: it's automatically cached on the frontend the first time it's retrieved, and it's loaded in the background so it shouldn't affect frontend responsiveness
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[20:10:24] Korny: I can't stand my one wifi front end, its an atom/ion and soooo pokey on wifi
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[20:26:56] duffrecords: Korny: yeah, that's what I have, too--an Atom/Ion Shuttle. someday when I move into a place where I can run Cat 6 everywhere it will be nice
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[22:13:09] buu: When I try to scan for channels I get "failed to open card"
[22:13:13] Sharky112065: When I choose watch recordings --> all recordings on my front end computer (seperate computer than backend), and press down arrow on my remote to go through the list of recordings it is really slow now. Nothing has changed on that computer and it used to be fast. any ideas? I have optimized the database. Note: the frontend on the backend computer is fine.
[22:13:23] buu: "Scan Type: Failed to open the card"
[22:13:34] buu: Can anyone point me at a direction to help solve this?
[22:15:09] justinh_: buu: check permissions – that you're the member of the group who owns the tuner card (generally 'video')
[22:15:29] justinh_: also verify that mythtv-setup is running as the user you think it is ;-)
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[22:16:10] buu: justinh_: crw-rw-rwT 1 root root 231, 0 Oct 31 03:22 /dev/ctn91xx_ctl0
[22:16:27] buu: That shouldn't matter what group I'm in right?
[22:16:35] buu: And I tried running mythtvsetup as root..
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[22:21:01] justinh_: tuners should ideally not be owned by root
[22:21:32] justinh_: mind it looks like any other user should be able to access it
[22:21:47] justinh_: does mythtv-setup complain mythbackend is already running when you start it?
[22:22:06] justinh_: if so, do not ignore its suggestion to stop mythbackend before proceeding
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[22:39:24] buu: justinh_: No, mythbackend definitely not running
[22:39:29] buu: It just refuses to open the card for scanning
[22:45:51] stuartm: buu: what card type are you selecting from the list?
[22:46:27] buu: Ceton
[22:47:42] buu: stuartm: I have a ceton card installed with no cable card attached, attempting to view clearqam channels
[22:48:00] buu: I had it "kind of working" by using this hacky script that manually did a channel scan and populated the database
[22:48:12] buu: But now I can't get mythtv-setup to run a channel scan
[22:48:19] stuartm: and what's the exact error from the mythtv-setup log?
[22:49:27] stuartm: I don't know anything about Ceton cards, so I'm not really going to be much help
[22:50:53] buu: Mythtv just says "Failed to open the card", the console I'm running -setup from doesn't say anything
[22:50:56] buu: Is there a log file someplace?
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[22:55:09] stuartm: buu: ok, what is the IP of the machine and what IP have you configured for the device?
[22:55:43] stuartm: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /346265.html
[22:58:44] buu: stuartm: Um, hrm.
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[22:59:45] buu: stuartm: My master is on 1.14
[22:59:54] buu: The card it self is on .200.1 and .200.2
[23:00:05] buu: Is this message saying I should assign the card a .1 address?
[23:01:58] justinh_: depends which subnet your machine is on
[23:02:28] justinh_: if it's 255.255.255.0 it won't be able to see the card
[23:07:01] buu: I have a route set up for it
[23:08:24] buu: Ok this is weird..
[23:10:00] buu: 192.168.200.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 ctn0
[23:10:03] buu: That's what dhclient sets up
[23:10:10] buu: I can't seem to manually assign it an ip
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