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| [01:38:08] | somethinginteres: | No matter what playback profile I try, my recordings and livetv are squashed to half the screen size. They all look fine in external players. |
| [01:51:10] | Korny: | So half the height, what about width |
| [01:58:08] | somethinginteres: | Korny: looks to be about half high half width. The other half of the screen is taken up by lines, the colour of the frame of video being displayed. Nothing is cut off on the video that is shown it's just squashed to that half size. |
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| [02:05:15] | somethinginteres: | Korny: some of the channels/recordings are also just plain solid green. I can't figure out a pattern for when this occurs. I have an NVIDIA gfx card w/ proprietary driver |
| [02:05:39] | Korny: | You using vpadu? |
| [02:07:20] | somethinginteres: | Korny: nope I've got an 8800GTS which doesn't have vdpau support. Looks like it's using ffmpeg for video decode. atm set to Normal Playback profile but I've tried all others as well as a custom one trying to use just opengl |
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| [02:09:13] | Korny: | I'm not an expert on the playback profiles, I right now am using vpadu on 1 box and opengl on my intel box |
| [02:09:27] | Korny: | Sounds like a interlacing issue though maybe? |
| [02:09:53] | Korny: | Do your menus look normal when not playing videos? |
| [02:10:12] | somethinginteres: | Korny: yeah menus look fine. |
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| [07:31:31] | parann0yed: | anyone using a hdhomerun prime? |
| [07:33:09] | parann0yed: | curious about how it interfaces with the mythbox. it has an ethernet port. so is it streaming all the content to the mythbox? if so that would seem to require a really fast network in order to record up to 3 channels at once |
| [07:36:41] | [R]: | not really |
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| [15:21:52] | jtonthebike: | hey all. new here. I'm looking for a little assistance with setting up Mythweb, and wondered if someone would be able to help, please? |
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| [15:25:33] | jtonthebike: | i have Mythweb backend running without any issues, just struggling to get mythweb configured on my ubuntu box |
| [15:26:07] | jtonthebike: | the homepage loads for mythweb, but anything else is 404'd. I think it's something to do with symlinks but my knowledge of that & configuring Apache is slim at best |
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| [15:32:56] | jtonthebike: | is anyone available for a bit of support? TIA |
| [15:37:03] | Kwisher: | jtonthebike: what distro? |
| [15:37:39] | jtonthebike: | ubuntu |
| [15:38:16] | jtonthebike: | Description: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS |
| [15:38:27] | Kwisher: | did you install mythbuntu-control-centre? |
| [15:38:28] | jtonthebike: | thanks for the reply Kwisher |
| [15:38:32] | jtonthebike: | oh, no? |
| [15:38:45] | jtonthebike: | i don't recall installing it... |
| [15:39:14] | jtonthebike: | it's a regular release of ubuntu with myth tv installed on top of it |
| [15:40:01] | Kwisher: | i woul recommend installing that package |
| [15:40:23] | Kwisher: | you can then select mythweb and it should just work |
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| [15:42:43] | jtonthebike: | thanks bud. doing that now, just had to start vnc |
| [15:44:25] | Kwisher: | this is on your backend, correct? |
| [15:44:31] | jtonthebike: | yeah |
| [15:45:06] | Kwisher: | what version of myth? |
| [15:45:13] | jtonthebike: | 0.27 |
| [15:45:19] | Kwisher: | ok |
| [15:51:57] | jtonthebike: | all the plugins had corresponding ticks next to them, so, i un-ticked and pressed apply, i'll see about pushing the installation via my vnc session rather than cli |
| [15:56:08] | jtonthebike: | still the same and i also restarted Apache |
| [15:58:14] | Kwisher: | when i setup my myth system from scratch, mythbuntu-control-centre is the first thing i install |
| [15:58:40] | Kwisher: | i then just go down the list to enable/install what features i want |
| [15:59:04] | Kwisher: | never had an issue with mythweb |
| [15:59:10] | jtonthebike: | that's the ideal ;) i just don't understand why i get a 404 on everything i click on in the homepage of /mythweb |
| [15:59:35] | Kwisher: | maybe a permissions issue?? |
| [16:00:02] | jtonthebike: | could be ... any thoughts on where I need to look? |
| [16:00:24] | jtonthebike: | mucho appreciated help so far, thanks! |
| [16:00:26] | Kwisher: | try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130572 |
| [16:02:23] | jtonthebike: | i did see that, but, it's pushing me tecnically as i'm not overly familiar with what is happening |
| [16:02:47] | Kwisher: | is this a new install? |
| [16:03:50] | jtonthebike: | not really, as mythtv, it's been running for a while |
| [16:04:00] | jtonthebike: | a year or so |
| [16:04:23] | jtonthebike: | just never sorted out mythweb and i'm supposed to be working, not fixing this, but it's bothering me and i'd like to sort it out |
| [16:04:23] | Kwisher: | and you never used mythweb before? |
| [16:04:27] | jtonthebike: | nope |
| [16:05:07] | Kwisher: | would it be a big issue reinstall the system from scratch? |
| [16:05:17] | jtonthebike: | yeah, huge |
| [16:05:33] | jtonthebike: | certainly not do-able before xmas |
| [16:05:35] | jtonthebike: | ;) |
| [16:05:46] | jtonthebike: | though i have thought of doing it |
| [16:06:11] | Kwisher: | not sure what to suggest |
| [16:06:34] | jtonthebike: | have another beer and explain to the wife it's just not working now? ;) |
| [16:07:10] | Kwisher: | you can still use myth, correct? |
| [16:07:16] | jtonthebike: | yeah |
| [16:07:21] | jtonthebike: | it's not the end of the world |
| [16:07:41] | jtonthebike: | tbh we (she) mainly uses just the tv aspect of it |
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| [16:09:00] | jtonthebike: | pvr would be nice, but am too busy really to invest any real time in sorting it properly. i think i'll look at getting another drive in there and rebuilding ubuntu .. could be tempted to use mythbuntu and then stik on the other things i want (webmin / tonido / vnc / the tuner card etc) |
| [16:09:52] | Kwisher: | i use xubuntu as the main o/s and then add mthbuntu-control-centre |
| [16:10:10] | jtonthebike: | cheers anyway Kwisher, really appreciate your time and if it's not a simple fix then i'll deal with it another day. i was half tempted to see if anyone would consider connecting via teamviewer and i can pay for it, but, not sure i want someone on the server unattended |
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| [16:10:49] | Kwisher: | so you have no recordings setup? |
| [16:10:53] | jtonthebike: | i didn't know of mythbuntu control centre, handy app, feel happier knowing the sql db is now under some sort of maintenance |
| [16:10:56] | jtonthebike: | nope |
| [16:10:58] | jtonthebike: | none at all |
| [16:11:07] | jtonthebike: | just using it as plain old vanilla tv |
| [16:11:11] | Kwisher: | you might as well start over with a fresh install |
| [16:11:13] | jtonthebike: | via an xbmc front end |
| [16:11:16] | jtonthebike: | yes |
| [16:11:18] | jtonthebike: | i think you're right |
| [16:11:53] | jtonthebike: | i've installed / uninstalled software on the current build (headphones & couchpotato & sabnzbd) |
| [16:12:37] | Kwisher: | have you trie irc #ubuntu-mythtv? |
| [16:12:50] | jtonthebike: | no |
| [16:13:05] | jtonthebike: | i will have a butchers and see what they're upto |
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| [16:15:32] | jtonthebike: | cheers dudes, adios |
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| [17:15:25] | MrBackhand: | Hi. I am using mythbuntu 12.04 with all updates to 0.27. I have a SIIG MCE USB remote I am trying to configure with mythtv |
| [17:15:46] | MrBackhand: | any of the keys i hit on the remote happen twice – up, down, left, right, pause, etc |
| [17:16:08] | MrBackhand: | i found information about the "bug" here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myt . . . /+bug/779835 |
| [17:16:34] | MrBackhand: | but i do not understand the work around – is there a workable work around to the double keys? |
| [17:20:45] | mengoshmink: | hmm I wish I could help, but I have never done much with lircd |
| [17:21:58] | MrBackhand: | maybe someone will wake up who has seen this problem :) |
| [17:22:35] | mengoshmink: | I have a very basic remote thingy, which I could do some stuff like pause etc |
| [17:22:46] | mengoshmink: | but for now I have bigger problems to play with / fix |
| [17:23:21] | MrBackhand: | okay |
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| [17:29:14] | mengoshmink: | I had a hd failure and trying to restore stuff, and restore mythtv |
| [17:29:19] | mengoshmink: | should be easy enough ... |
| [17:30:10] | MrBackhand: | restore?? format and reinstall :) |
| [17:30:46] | mengoshmink: | well, I run a raid1 so my data is there, its just getting it back into usable space |
| [17:32:00] | wagnerrp: | if it's RAID1, it should just be a function of booting the machine like normal |
| [17:32:09] | wagnerrp: | you shouldn't need to do anything but add another drive and rebuild the array |
| [17:32:30] | mengoshmink: | to play it safe I'm replacing both drives from the array |
| [17:32:42] | wagnerrp: | at most, you'll have to fanagle a bit with the boot loader |
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| [17:42:16] | __raven: | hi |
| [17:43:20] | __raven: | frontend tells me it needs a new db verison (10 versions ago) what can i do? |
| [17:44:04] | wagnerrp: | downgrade your frontend to match that of your backend |
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| [17:44:11] | wagnerrp: | or upgrade your backend to match that of your frontend |
| [17:45:14] | __raven: | backend is running on ubuntu 12.04.3 lts, frontend on 13.10 – which repos do i need? |
| [17:46:31] | wagnerrp: | couldn't tell you, i don't use ubuntu |
| [17:49:13] | mengoshmink: | which distros do you use wagnerrp ? |
| [17:50:58] | wagnerrp: | gentoo |
| [17:51:42] | mengoshmink: | if only I was that clever |
| [17:51:57] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [17:52:27] | mengoshmink: | I tried to use gentoo years ago, I didn't succeed, so I stay in the redhat camp |
| [17:54:07] | MrBackhand: | wagnerrp, have you ever configured an MCE USB remote? |
| [17:54:19] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [17:55:03] | MrBackhand: | have you ran into the keys repeating from the remote? |
| [17:55:15] | wagnerrp: | are you configuring it with X or lirc? |
| [17:55:23] | MrBackhand: | lirc |
| [17:55:43] | wagnerrp: | there are configuration options for that in your lircrc file |
| [17:55:44] | MrBackhand: | using mythbuntu 12.04 and kernel 3.5.0-41- |
| [17:56:12] | MrBackhand: | yes, and the configs work, except if i hit up on the remote, it moves twice |
| [17:56:19] | MrBackhand: | or down, or pause |
| [17:56:37] | MrBackhand: | thats listed from this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myt . . . /+bug/779835 |
| [17:57:20] | wagnerrp: | does the repeat only happen on certain buttons? |
| [17:57:33] | wagnerrp: | terminate lircd and see what happens |
| [17:57:52] | MrBackhand: | all buttons so far |
| [17:58:09] | MrBackhand: | stopping the lirc service makes the remote stop |
| [17:58:41] | MrBackhand: | err the remote no longer work |
| [17:58:44] | wagnerrp: | stop completely? there is no response in the UI when you press buttons? |
| [17:58:50] | MrBackhand: | correctc |
| [17:59:25] | MrBackhand: | the USB receiver flashes but the remote does not work |
| [17:59:28] | wagnerrp: | then it's an issue with your lircrc config |
| [17:59:53] | wagnerrp: | the other option was that X was picking up the device, and you were being sent key presses from both lirc and X simultaneously |
| [18:00:06] | wagnerrp: | terminating lircd, you would have still received events from X, were that the case |
| [18:00:24] | MrBackhand: | yes, thats what i was thinking, and i thoughtstopping the service would fix it, then got stumped when it stopped completely |
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| [19:30:01] | dashs: | How do you make the setup screen small enough to see the checkboxen? |
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| [19:34:17] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to do this on an old CRT or something? or are you having issues with overscan? |
| [19:35:13] | dashs: | Overscan on LCD |
| [19:36:09] | wagnerrp: | run mythtv-setup with --geometry parameters |
| [19:36:19] | wagnerrp: | or configure overscan in mythfrontend |
| [19:36:42] | dashs: | What section of mythfrontend? |
| [19:36:45] | wagnerrp: | or... pump mythtv-setup to a remote X server with no overscan |
| [19:36:51] | wagnerrp: | the screen setup wizard |
| [19:37:03] | wagnerrp: | technically, you can run the screen setup wizard directly |
| [19:37:11] | wagnerrp: | you don't actually need to run mythfrontend |
| [19:39:17] | Spida: | I have a digital devices cine s2 v6 DVB-S card, which seems to be partly recognized: Digital Devices PCIE bridge driver, Copyright (C) 2010–11 Digital Devices GmbH DDBridge driver detected: Digital Devices PCIe bridge HW 00010007 FW 00010003; I get a /dev/ddbridge/card0, but no /dev/*dvb* |
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| [19:39:27] | Spida: | any idea what I might be missing? |
| [19:41:51] | dashs: | wagnerrp — thanks |
| [19:42:19] | wagnerrp: | Spida: what version is your kernel? |
| [19:42:33] | wagnerrp: | you may find some information here... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Digital . . . uoFlex_C%26T |
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| [19:43:22] | Spida: | 3.10 |
| [19:43:40] | Spida: | but I tried 3.9 and 3.2, too |
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| [19:46:40] | wagnerrp: | we just use tuners here, we don't support them |
| [19:46:55] | wagnerrp: | so unless it's something common, you might find better luck at #linuxtv |
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| [19:52:58] | Spida: | thx |
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| [20:13:54] | haux: | I know that it's impossible to transcode an HD recorded video with mythtv. But what about just cutting sequences. The start and the end of each sequence will get from the command "mythutil --gencutlist" |
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| [20:15:10] | wagnerrp: | you can transcode HD recordings just fine with mythtv... but you shouldn't, since mythtranscode only supports RTJPEG and MPEG4ASP output |
| [20:15:22] | wagnerrp: | you can do a "lossless transcode" of HD MPEG2 recordings |
| [20:15:55] | wagnerrp: | where you cut marked sequences, and fix up the handful of frames between the cut points and the nearest GOP boundary |
| [20:18:46] | parann0yed: | wagnerrp, thanks to you I ordered a hdhomerun prime |
| [20:19:10] | parann0yed: | not a bad deal really. what I'm not sure of though is its setup on the network |
| [20:19:32] | wagnerrp: | you plug it into the network, and you're done |
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| [20:19:53] | parann0yed: | I connect it to my router, but my tv is in a different room |
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| [20:20:20] | parann0yed: | as well as my computer... |
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| [20:20:47] | wagnerrp: | the computer is on the network as well, correct? |
| [20:20:53] | parann0yed: | yes it is |
| [20:21:04] | wagnerrp: | so the computer on the network can access the tuner on the network |
| [20:21:33] | dashs: | Is there any way to decrease the OSD decay time without source modification? |
| [20:21:46] | parann0yed: | that's what I understood. I wonder if my network is fast enough to handle the shows |
| [20:21:54] | parann0yed: | streaming, that is |
| [20:21:56] | wagnerrp: | i believe that may be controlled by the theme |
| [20:22:38] | wagnerrp: | parann0yed: figure around 15Mbps per HD stream (the HDHRP can do three) |
| [20:22:58] | wagnerrp: | for good measure, double that to prevent the chance of collisions and lost UDP packets |
| [20:23:06] | parann0yed: | ok... |
| [20:23:13] | wagnerrp: | if you have no other traffic on the network, 10/100 is sufficient |
| [20:23:39] | wagnerrp: | if you have other traffic on your network, you will likely never see any problems if using gigabit |
| [20:24:28] | parann0yed: | it will be interesting. i may have to move my router. unfortunately I don't have a true wired network. I'm renting so I am using powerline adapters from netgear. |
| [20:24:54] | parann0yed: | it has been fine to this point, but never had to move a lot of data |
| [20:24:57] | wagnerrp: | i wouldn't trust a HDHomeRun over anything but wired network |
| [20:25:34] | parann0yed: | ok. you think the hauppauge that connects via usb to the computer may be a better solution? |
| [20:25:54] | wagnerrp: | you have a cable drop by your computer? |
| [20:26:04] | parann0yed: | yes i do |
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| [20:26:26] | wagnerrp: | you can always buy a local switch to plug the HDHR and PC into |
| [20:26:35] | wagnerrp: | or an extra network card to connect the HDHR and PC directly |
| [20:27:11] | parann0yed: | hmm, I have two network ports on my computer |
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| [20:27:25] | wagnerrp: | you may need to use a crossover cable |
| [20:27:42] | parann0yed: | that would probably be better actually |
| [20:27:49] | wagnerrp: | although gigabit gear will typically switch internally, making crossover cables unnecessary |
| [20:28:19] | parann0yed: | yeah, the nics I have are gigabit |
| [20:28:34] | parann0yed: | cool...at least there's hope |
| [20:28:49] | parann0yed: | when we buy another home I'll be able to wire it |
| [20:28:59] | wagnerrp: | i believe an HDHR will work using the autoconfigured (169.xxx) addresses if you do not have a DHCP server |
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| [20:29:30] | parann0yed: | my router has dhcp, would that work? |
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| [20:30:01] | wagnerrp: | not if you're connecting the HDHR directly to the PC |
| [20:30:10] | parann0yed: | ok... |
| [20:30:13] | wagnerrp: | well... unless you bridge the two networks |
| [20:31:33] | parann0yed: | I'll get it tomorrow so I can mess with it while I watch the games |
| [20:32:09] | wagnerrp: | note, it will only function as a clear qam tuner until you get a cablecard from comcast and get the card authorized and paired with the device |
| [20:32:35] | parann0yed: | yes, I got the cablecard yesterday |
| [20:32:55] | parann0yed: | what is clear qam? |
| [20:33:02] | wagnerrp: | unencrypted digital cable |
| [20:33:07] | parann0yed: | oh |
| [20:35:11] | parann0yed: | are you familiar with powerline adapters? |
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| [20:35:42] | wagnerrp: | i know of them, i've never used one |
| [20:36:29] | parann0yed: | i need to test the network speed. I have one powerline switch that supposedly does a form of qos. |
| [20:37:04] | parann0yed: | and my router is a netgear gigabit dual band router |
| [20:38:16] | wagnerrp: | got a laptop, or a computer connected directly to the router? |
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| [20:39:00] | parann0yed: | yes i do |
| [20:39:19] | wagnerrp: | install iperf on both, test the throughput between them |
| [20:39:57] | parann0yed: | ok |
| [20:40:36] | wagnerrp: | you may want to do the UDP test as well |
| [20:40:58] | wagnerrp: | have the directly connected machine serve 50Mbps, and see what loss you get on the other sie |
| [20:41:00] | wagnerrp: | side |
| [20:41:20] | haux: | Thanks wagnerrp |
| [20:41:47] | haux: | I was talking about HD in mpeg4 from Hauppauge HDPVR |
| [20:42:12] | haux: | I know the mythtv can transcode mpeg2-HD without a problem |
| [20:42:13] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode does not support lossless h264 cutting |
| [20:42:25] | wagnerrp: | and any actual transcode will be to a less efficient format |
| [20:42:27] | haux: | ok |
| [20:43:02] | haux: | what card tv can let me record hd in mpeg2 not mpeg4 ? |
| [20:43:19] | haux: | any help is really welcome |
| [20:43:34] | wagnerrp: | the HDPVR is a capture device, not a tv tuner |
| [20:43:40] | wagnerrp: | so it actually compresses locally |
| [20:43:55] | wagnerrp: | any digital tuner will merely pass whatever format it gets off the wire to mythtv |
| [20:48:52] | haux: | if I get win tv hvr-1600 can I save the video in mpeg2+HD with mythtv. Is this card capable to receive hd video format (not sd) ? |
| [20:49:21] | wagnerrp: | the HVR-1600 is a digital tuner, so it will capture in whatever format the broadcaster is sending, which will be MPEG2 |
| [20:49:36] | wagnerrp: | however if you're currently using an HDPVR, you're not using a tuner |
| [20:49:43] | wagnerrp: | you're capturing from some external device |
| [20:49:58] | wagnerrp: | and the HVR-1600 is only capable of capturing standard definition from external devices |
| [20:50:25] | wagnerrp: | what are you recording with this HDPVR? |
| [20:50:39] | haux: | HD tv |
| [20:50:55] | wagnerrp: | yes... but you're recording from something |
| [20:50:57] | wagnerrp: | what is it? |
| [20:51:17] | haux: | but I will replace it I want a configuration that can let me transcode and remove commercials for video in HD mpeg2 |
| [20:51:47] | haux: | motorolla vip2262 |
| [20:51:54] | haux: | from Bell Provider |
| [20:52:03] | haux: | http://support.bell.ca/_web/guides/TV/UserGui . . . 2262(en).pdf |
| [20:52:14] | wagnerrp: | so there is no way to access that content with a tuner |
| [20:52:19] | wagnerrp: | the only option is analog capture from a box |
| [20:52:33] | wagnerrp: | so if you want HD, the only option is the HDPVR you currently have |
| [20:52:48] | haux: | ok :-( |
| [20:53:00] | haux: | I see |
| [20:53:14] | wagnerrp: | there are some external utilities that will do lossless cutting on h264 content, but i've not used them |
| [20:53:26] | clever: | fibreop? |
| [20:53:39] | haux: | yea tv+internet via fiber |
| [20:54:10] | clever: | got the same service here, every computer on the network has access to the tv stream, but its encrypted |
| [20:54:19] | clever: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fibreop |
| [20:54:52] | wagnerrp: | in other words, only usable with their box and analog capture |
| [20:55:14] | clever: | yep |
| [20:55:33] | wagnerrp: | and even if not, it seems its H264, and so you would be in the same situation (with respect to cutting) |
| [20:55:41] | haux: | clever : do you use any card/box with mythtv to recod video ? |
| [20:55:44] | wagnerrp: | although arguably a much better situation for recording |
| [20:56:02] | clever: | haux: all i have is a pvr-150, it would look like crap, so i dont even bother right now |
| [20:56:28] | clever: | and yes, the DVR bell gives us is crap |
| [20:56:37] | haux: | lol |
| [20:56:41] | clever: | half the time it refuses to respond because its busy, the drive is already full |
| [20:56:46] | clever: | the ui is laggy as heck |
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| [20:56:59] | clever: | if i hit exit to close the UI, it stops playing the recording and goes back to live tv |
| [20:57:37] | haux: | strange for me the ui is fast (I used to have a TV satelite with them, it's a big difference) |
| [20:57:57] | clever: | maybe it only gets slow once you have a large number of recordings |
| [20:58:13] | haux: | ok, I have less than 50 recordings |
| [20:58:14] | clever: | it was taking up to a minute today to delete a single recording |
| [20:58:21] | haux: | lol |
| [20:58:21] | clever: | and i couldnt even scroll or close the ui, until it finished |
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| [20:59:37] | clever: | also, the service guy claimed you could watch tv on the free ipad mini they toss at you |
| [20:59:58] | clever: | but you cant, all you can do is push youtube videos from the ipad to the STB, which then crashes if you even think of turning the ipad off |
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| [21:00:08] | haux: | sorry again with my stupid question. What about "Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1950 TV Tuner USB External Hybrid Video Recorder" it's an mpeg2 encoder |
| [21:00:24] | wagnerrp: | and standard definition |
| [21:00:48] | haux: | from Hauppauge: |
| [21:00:52] | haux: | Features: |
| [21:00:52] | haux: | Watch ATSC HD digital TV, up to 1080i format |
| [21:01:02] | clever: | thats for unencrypted digital tv, on coax |
| [21:01:06] | wagnerrp: | the digital tuner will receive whatever is being transmitted |
| [21:01:10] | clever: | fibreop isnt even on coax |
| [21:01:14] | wagnerrp: | analog capture on that device is standard definition only |
| [21:01:31] | haux: | but the fiberop pvr has a coax as an output |
| [21:01:42] | clever: | thats ethernet over coax, not normal tv coax |
| [21:01:51] | haux: | oups ! |
| [21:01:57] | clever: | oh wait, the output is just NTSC out, analog SD |
| [21:02:16] | clever: | the input is ethernet over the same wire, so you dont have to string ethernet all over your house, reuse the old coax wires |
| [21:02:23] | wagnerrp: | while something like Verizon FiOS is actually a traditional cable signal coming in off the fiber, Fiberop is IPTV |
| [21:02:41] | haux: | from the catalog |
| [21:02:46] | haux: | Coaxial standard definition output to connect video and audio to the TV or VCR |
| [21:02:50] | haux: | tv out in sd |
| [21:03:03] | haux: | and it gives also s-video in hd |
| [21:03:06] | haux: | from catalog |
| [21:03:10] | clever: | then you cant capture HD tv, it wont look as good |
| [21:03:12] | haux: | S-VIDEo |
| [21:03:12] | haux: | Provides high quality standard definition video output (for audio you must connect |
| [21:03:12] | haux: | either optical output audio out R and l). |
| [21:03:12] | clever: | same reason i'm not using my pvr-150 |
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| [21:25:38] | clever: | wagnerrp: another thing wrong with this dvr, it cant do something as simple as list every episode in the order it aired |
| [21:25:56] | clever: | its breaking the lists up by what channel it recorded it on, and sorting in the order it was recorded in |
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