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Wednesday, October 9th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:01:55] chompydile: rip?
[00:02:23] wagnerrp: it's a bluray film that rather than being one video, it's stitched together using the menu coding
[00:02:24] Mark_____: Hello, is there anyone available who can help with MythTV Setup crashing on Mac OS X10.8.5?
[00:03:13] wagnerrp: i saw the same thing on Blade Runner, but at least there they had the good sense to make it a secondary disk. the primary had a proper video file
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[00:19:29] Mark____: Sorry for the repeat…I got disconnected. Is there anyone available who can help with MythTV backend crashing on Mac OS X 10.8.5?
[00:21:23] Mark____: I mean MythTV Setup not backend.
[00:22:22] mzb is now known as mzb-
[00:23:54] sphery: jya: I'd guess that either a) it wasn't a "true" match (according to duplicate matching rules--meaning likely different program IDs or, if one or both is missing program ID, slightly different title/subtitle/description, dependent on chosen dup matching method) or b) the rule doesn't have duplicate matching enabled
[00:24:08] wagnerrp: Mark____: do you have a backtrace?
[00:24:30] jya: sphery: could it be a priority issue? like you have to set the no recording rule a higher priority one?
[00:25:15] sphery: there's no "don't record" rule type--Never record is implemented with duplicate matching
[00:25:38] sphery: so something is different between the faked recording entry and the program listing
[00:25:56] wagnerrp: sphery: i thought the
[00:26:03] wagnerrp: "dont record" was used to implement overrides
[00:26:24] sphery: there is a "Do not record this show" or something, which is how you delete/cancel a recording rule
[00:26:50] Mark____: wagnerrp: no I don't have backtrace.
[00:26:54] sphery: ah, yes, you can make an override rule
[00:27:15] sphery: that's different from a never record--sorry, I didn't think of overrides since I saw never record
[00:28:01] wagnerrp: do you have a core dump? i don't know if OSX produces those by default, or at all
[00:28:22] sphery: i.e. a kDontRecord which would be a single episode override
[00:29:01] sphery: jya: and, ttbomk, a kDontRecord rule always has the highest priority (with kOverrideRecord being 2nd?)
[00:33:17] sphery: jya: it's possible that, for example, the user is using EIT and the start or end time of the show changed since the user set the Don't Record override, so there's no valid Don't Record override for the show that's now in the listings (even a 1-min change in time would break that)
[00:33:23] sphery: ?
[00:35:34] jya: sphery: but isn't a recording based on the title?
[00:35:51] jya: or when you create a recording for XXX show, implicetely the start/finish time is added?
[00:36:16] sphery: title and starttime for episodic rules, and title only for find rules
[00:36:28] sphery: (i.e. for "any time" rules)
[00:37:06] sphery: I don't remember if end time still comes into play for episodic rules, but mentioned it as a possibility
[00:37:29] Mark____: wagnerrp: there is no crash log in /library/logs – either one is not created or I am looking in the wrong place
[00:37:34] jya: ok.. I'll pass that info on.
[00:37:35] jya: will see
[00:37:48] sphery: in theory the listings should show a "Not Listed" entry at the time of a no-longer-matching-an-episode-in-the-listings episodic rule
[00:38:45] sphery: though it's possible that could be "covered up" by having multiple same channels (same call sign) condensed in the guide (using same call sign and same channel number) or something
[00:39:29] sphery: and sorry I didn't think of the overrides--even when I said, "don't record" I missed that
[00:39:35] sphery: glad wagnerrp caught that :)
[00:39:56] sphery: I think, though, there was a bug in 0.26 that was fixed in 0.26-fixes that prevented overrides from working properly
[00:40:01] Mark____: here are the symptoms of the crash. First run of MythTV Setup came up and asked for language. It then crashed when the next button was pushed. Subsequent attempts crash right after grey screen shows up.
[00:40:02] sphery: so maybe the user just needs to update
[00:43:34] sphery: jya: I think it was this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 15757#515757
[00:44:44] sphery: jya: so if the user created the override in MythWeb, the override rule was broken (see #10580 and #10650 )
[00:44:44] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10580 **
[00:44:44] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10650 **
[00:45:44] sphery: (assuming he had a broken version)
[00:46:25] jya: that's 0.25
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[00:47:04] sphery: yeah, it got fixed before the final release of 0.26, but would cause the reported symptoms, so I thought it might be worth checking that the user really had 0.26 or 0.26-fixes
[00:47:56] sphery: was fixed in 0.26-pre3
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[03:18:04] Blue11: I am trying to find the mythtv release notes for 0.27 — I am here: http://www.mythtv.org/download but I can't find the release notes.
[03:18:33] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.27
[03:18:44] Blue11: thanks.
[03:20:14] Blue11: okay compiling the source now – thank you
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[17:32:05] skd5aner: wagnerrp: on trac, is there an owner who is assigned to "mythtv-setup" component?
[17:37:55] skd5aner: ... by default?
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[18:05:32] skd5aner: anyone ever use this? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/554986
[18:05:38] skd5aner: looks like kormoc put it together
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[18:10:21] skd5aner: how long ago did he do that?
[18:12:42] tgm4883: skd5aner, IDK, but thanks for reminding me. I wanted to try that out
[18:13:13] skd5aner: tgm4883: let me know how it goes, I'm thinking about playing with it...I will say that mythepisode (I think it was) is useful – I used that in 0.26
[18:13:31] skd5aner: shows all the episodes in a series and which ones you've recorded and which ones you haven't
[18:23:38] skd5aner: heh – I remember this: select * from record where recordid = <yourrecid>\G
[18:23:45] skd5aner: oops, wrong copy/paste
[18:23:54] skd5aner: http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/mythtv/mythbayes/
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[18:38:30] skd5aner: !seen iamlindoro
[18:38:30] MythLogBot: iamlindoro was last seen 495 days 1 hour 46 minutes 5 seconds ago
[18:38:47] EvilGuru: skd5aner: Long gone :(
[18:38:56] skd5aner: I know – just curious how long it'd been :)
[18:39:05] skd5aner: I haven't even seen him in the torc rooms for months
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[19:17:26] jedix: Where is my schedule direct password saved?
[19:17:31] jedix: or do I need to reset it?
[19:17:38] jedix: I really don't want to reset it
[19:18:55] skd5aner: in your db in the videosources table I believe
[19:22:20] jedix: thanks
[19:22:35] jedix: now I need to find the database password.. :)
[19:22:50] jedix: I think that's in etc somewhere
[19:25:11] tgm4883: /etc/mythtv
[19:27:42] jedix: thanks
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[19:31:17] jedix: you guys are so helpful... now all I need is a credit card number to renew..
[19:31:20] ** jedix waits **
[19:31:22] jedix: :P
[19:32:34] sphery: of course, you can always use mythtv-setup to set it under Video sources
[19:33:32] jedix: yeah, but I don't think I can read it that way
[19:33:54] jedix: and I didn't want to restart the backend.. or disrupt users
[19:34:16] jedix: and I don't run mythtv-setup when the backend is running
[19:34:40] sphery: well, if you're just looking and don't change anything, there's no harm in doing so
[19:35:36] sphery: but, yeah, it doesn't show the password in there
[19:35:51] sphery: should have a toggle display for that
[19:44:30] jedix: renewed!
[19:44:32] jedix: thanks guys
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[20:27:27] earthworm: Any idea why MythTV would not be able to record now and again, it seems I have to reboot, and then the TV tuner works again
[20:27:36] earthworm: I can't watch live TV either ...
[20:29:00] earthworm: Restarting mythtv doesn't fix it
[20:29:24] earthworm: Could something still be hogging the tuner maybe?
[20:29:43] jedix: did you check the logs?
[20:30:35] Kwisher: is it safe to upgrade from .26 to .27 yet?
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[20:31:10] earthworm: I can see this in there
[20:31:10] earthworm: 2013-10–09 21:30:11.940411 I [1578/1691] TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3562 (TuningCheckForHWChange) – TVRec(4): HW Tuner: 4->4
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[20:31:28] earthworm: I haven't got 4 tuners, only 2 ...
[20:32:44] skd5aner: !see kormoc
[20:32:50] skd5aner: !seen kormoc
[20:32:50] MythLogBot: kormoc was last seen 49 days 20 hours 46 minutes 24 seconds ago
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[20:37:39] jedix: earthworm: not sure..
[20:44:00] earthworm: I also see this ...
[20:44:01] earthworm: 2013-10–09 21:39:56.462737 E [1578/8944] ProcessRequest fileringbuffer.cpp:290 (
[20:44:01] earthworm: OpenFile) – FileRingBuf(/mediasdc/mythtv/livetv/5166_20131009203954.mpg): OpenFi
[20:44:01] earthworm: le(): File too small (0B).
[20:44:13] earthworm: What's going off there?
[20:45:03] jedix: you would have more luck getting help if you pastebin it
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[20:56:29] earthworm: jedix, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3225940
[20:56:58] skd5aner: Kwishe: yes, it's safe to upgrade
[20:57:07] earthworm: I can't really see any errors there
[20:57:11] skd5aner: earthworm: what kind of tuner?
[20:57:13] earthworm: I can't understand it
[20:57:27] earthworm: It's a PlayTV USB tuner
[20:57:39] earthworm: I got it for my PS3, but Mythttv is better
[20:58:12] skd5aner: my guess – sometimes, USB tuners are very finicky, and sometimes the USB subsystem will croke, which is why a reboot will fix it
[20:59:17] earthworm: Weird, wonder why it didn't happen before?
[21:02:04] skd5aner: earthworm: that, I dont know... and I'm only speculating here... but I know that I've heard others talk about similiar issues with USB tuners – usually it's not the tuner that has the problems, but the actual USB bus itself
[21:02:50] skd5aner: the error is a 0-byte recording, which means the tuner is essentially offline and/or not tuning properly
[21:03:25] skd5aner: gotta run
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[21:09:10] jedix: earthworm: I don;t know :/
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[21:09:36] earthworm: skd5aner, seems to have answered the question
[21:09:42] jedix: okay
[21:09:44] earthworm: It must be the USB system
[21:09:55] jedix: well try another usb port?
[21:10:03] jedix: like.. usb3 vs usb2, etc?
[21:10:11] earthworm: Not a bad idea mate
[21:10:13] jedix: maybe having it on another controller will help
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[21:47:13] wagnerrp: skd5aner: ideally, no one should be assigned to it, since it should get removed
[21:47:20] wagnerrp: ... but that seems to be happening rather slowly
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[21:51:50] skd5aner: wagnerrp: yea, my fear is that if danielk's name is assigned there, no one else will ever pick it up
[21:52:10] skd5aner: but, someone like stuartm, who is taking on some of the setup stuff and a bunch of the UI stuff, might be a better fit
[21:52:30] skd5aner: wagnerrp: and what do you mean by '"it should be removed"?
[21:52:39] skd5aner: you mean the feature entirely?
[21:52:57] skd5aner: or you mean mythtv-setup in general?
[21:54:03] skd5aner: If you mean mythtv-setup, well... just like everything around here, if we stop fixing/improving things that current exist because there's been talk of those things eventually not existing, then nothing gets done...
[21:54:52] skd5aner: there's been a lot of work that's sat in pergatory because of some murmors that they'll eventually go away or be re-written, except for it takes years (and in some cases, never) for that to actually occur :)
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[22:09:46] wagnerrp: i mean mythtv-setup in general
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[23:55:38] bertaboy: I'm having an issue with mythvidexport.py where the command fails with a "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" message pointing to the third % in the line "'%s - %s' % (self.rec.title.encode('utf-8'),"
[23:56:05] bertaboy: has anyone come across this? I've forced the script to use python2 instead of python3, but still same error
[23:56:06] wagnerrp: sounds like you're running python 3
[23:56:56] bertaboy: when I don't specify python2, the carrot points to the space after the third %
[23:59:10] wagnerrp: if it ran at all when you used python3, then you somehow have the mythtv python bindings installed under python3
[23:59:13] wagnerrp: which should not be possible
[23:59:35] wagnerrp: nevermind, syntax errors are first pass before it ever tries to run anything
[23:59:45] bertaboy: it doesn't work under either, just changing the script from python2 to python3 moves the debugging carrot one character

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