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Tuesday, October 8th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:21:55] tgm4883: wagnerrp, I'm guessing internet
[00:22:31] tgm4883: either get better wifi, better home plugs, or better fuses
[00:22:53] wagnerrp: (or CAT6)
[00:23:04] wagnerrp: (bonus points for CAT6)
[00:26:09] wagnerrp: (or even CAT5, I'm not picky)
[00:26:54] wagnerrp: (actually, I am picky, but there are very few things not better than wifi or homeplug)
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[00:41:19] MrShake: good evening
[00:41:33] MrShake: my guide data isn't automatically updating after 2 weeks
[00:41:38] MrShake: any thought were to start looking?
[00:41:54] MrShake: I'm having to manually run mythfilldatabase when the guide data goes to unknown
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[00:47:40] pvr4me: Are you using SchedulesDirect?
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[01:05:38] biffhero: Aha! I think my ivtv driver is crashing.
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[01:50:48] pvr4me: jya: OK not consistent. Three times in a row, no AirPlay destination for this frontend.
[01:51:15] jya: pvr4me: it may take a little while for the rDNS to broadcast everywhere
[01:51:18] jya: maybe that's why
[01:51:25] jya: just a matter of waiting a bit
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[01:57:10] biffhero: Is anyone here to help me with why mythtv won't record from /dev/video0 ? I am able to "cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/foo.mpeg" and then mplayer that elsewhere.
[01:57:28] biffhero: However, if I record by hand... wait, I haven't done that yet.
[01:58:09] pvr4me: jya: tried a couple of things: 1) Waited 1+ minutes and frontend still not listed as AirPlay destination
[01:58:26] jya: pvr4me: any firewall running?
[01:58:37] pvr4me: 2) Played a song from Music app, no problems
[01:58:39] jya: littlesnitch stuff like that?
[01:58:50] pvr4me: Nope, no firewall
[01:59:02] biffhero: let me rephrase that. I just did a "by hand", and it is good. I will try to record the football show when this 5 minute recording is done.
[01:59:04] jya: you're running an old version of OSX so I'm not sure ...
[01:59:12] jya: i used to have issues like that a while back
[01:59:17] jya: but not happening these days
[01:59:22] pvr4me: 3) Tried to play a Video. Audio came through but no video.
[01:59:45] jya: do you have an apple tv on your network or any other airplay device?
[02:00:34] pvr4me: No AppleTV, just the Marantz receiver
[02:00:54] jya: the marantz is airplay enabled?
[02:01:00] pvr4me: Yes
[02:01:04] jya: turn it off
[02:01:08] jya: In my home network
[02:01:21] jya: if my ATV is on, I only see my linux frontend and never my mac frontend
[02:01:33] jya: if I disconnect the ATV, then it sees my mac *and* linux one
[02:01:36] jya: never knew why
[02:02:18] pvr4me: OK, Marantz unplugged...trying again
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[02:07:39] pvr4me: jya: still not listed as AirPlay destination for Photos. Tried Video again, audio plays but no video. Log at:
[02:07:41] pvr4me: http://pastebin.ca/2463948
[02:08:08] jya: if it's not listed, there's nothing I can do... check your router, your DNS whatever...
[02:08:20] jya: it's an issue on your side
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[02:09:27] pvr4me: Tomorrow, I'll reset the router and try again. Also will boot into 10.8.4 and see if it works there (think that where I did the previous testing)
[02:11:28] MrShake: pvr4me, sorry, I had to step away from the comptuer for a while.. yes, I'm using schedules direct
[02:11:57] pvr4me: BTW, I wanted to highlight this when I release .27 through MacPorts in the next few days. Maybe it is only going to work on Mountain Lion?
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[02:15:07] pvr4me: MrShake: in mythtv-setup, General, there is a checkbox "Automatically update program listings", then "Guide data program: mythfilldatabase" and "Guide data arguments: --dd-grab-all". Do you have the same?
[02:15:32] MrShake: let me look
[02:16:52] MrShake: while I'm looking.. have to gush a little... I just setup an HDMI extender over cat6... WOW!
[02:17:05] MrShake: that with mythmote makes for a much better experiance than the frontends I had been trying
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[02:20:24] MrShake: hrm.. didn't have any of that
[02:21:17] pvr4me: That would be a problem! Also need to make sure that EIT is turned OFF on all your channels.
[02:21:43] pvr4me: Anyway, I've got to go
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[02:50:54] jya: wagnerrp, sphery : is there still a "never record rules" type ?
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[05:38:59] vijaya: I have followed the steps described in the following link but after running the ./demo-arm.sh script the binaries are not created in the directory, how to get the binaries properly
[05:39:02] vijaya: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_On_NSLU2#Co . . . _on_the_slug
[05:54:37] vijaya: anyone is there??
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[08:21:02] vijaya_: I have followed the steps described in the following link but after running the ./demo-arm.sh script the binaries are not created in the directory, how to get the binaries properly, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_On_NSLU2#Co . . . _on_the_slug
[08:21:16] vijaya_: anyone is there??
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[11:04:25] EvilGuru: Sigh: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24442265
[11:04:51] EvilGuru: There really is not a better way to waste much needed bandwidth than this
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[14:08:54] afm: morning all. fresh install of 0.27… in the general setup, I can't seem to change the backend ipv4 address from 127.0.0.1…. 6543 is only binding to localhost… frontends angry...
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[14:29:17] afm: d'oh cmyth solution for 0.27?
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[15:08:19] koffel: can i put .27 on ubuntu 10.04?
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[15:50:31] sphery: jya: There's never been a "never record" rule type, but the idea was implemented by "faking" a previous recording of a show. The functionality is still available and should work fine (at least in mythfrontend--not sure if it's one of the currently-not-working-well things in MythWeb).
[15:51:13] sphery: jya: You should be able to access it in the guide by selecting a show, then MENU|Edit Recording Status, but note that it will only be an option if you actually have a rule that matches the show.
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[16:59:37] koffel: i get wait .2 seconds
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[21:28:53] jya: sphery: someone on a forum wrote that this never record rule stopped working in 0.26 and was still broken now... They have a rule that record all show with a rating > 7; but then they have a rule to never record show XXX; yet it is recorded (as XXX has a rating > 7)
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[22:07:01] wagnerrp: we don't have proper bluray playback do we? just a generated list of titles?
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[22:12:19] wagnerrp: looks like i'm splicing this one together manually...
[22:12:21] biffhero: I don't know.
[22:12:42] wagnerrp: the biggest file is only 2.5GB
[22:13:00] biffhero: This is the first time that I have heard you ask a question, not answer questions for others.
[22:13:23] wagnerrp: questions i ask are usually in the other channel
[22:13:56] biffhero: -devel?
[22:14:04] Kwisher: anyone upgrade to .27 yet?
[22:14:15] wagnerrp: -devel?
[22:14:22] biffhero: mythtv-dev ?
[22:14:46] wagnerrp: there is no #mythtv-dev channel
[22:15:24] biffhero: What is "the other channel" ?
[22:15:29] wagnerrp: #mythtv
[22:15:49] biffhero: oh, yeah, isn't that the devel channel?
[22:15:59] wagnerrp: yes
[22:16:43] biffhero: I should lurk there, see what you smartypants are talking about. I hope some of it all would rub off on me.
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[22:45:12] ** chompydile looks around **
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[22:55:42] EvilGuru: What is the crummiest card that will do advanced 2x deinterlacing with VDPAU?
[22:56:04] EvilGuru: I have a GT 240 at the moment but it is a 60W dustbuster
[22:59:40] chompydile: Didnt you ask this the other day? :o
[23:00:00] EvilGuru: chompydile: Not since 2010 when I picked up the 240
[23:00:09] chompydile: Oh must have been someone else then
[23:01:02] chompydile: well it would have to be nvidia obviously
[23:01:07] EvilGuru: At the time I recall the deinterlacing being quite memory bandwidth intensive so I got something with GDDR5
[23:01:41] chompydile: Maybe for 1080p
[23:02:35] chompydile: So you want something that uses less idle I take it
[23:03:01] EvilGuru: Less idle and isn't as noisy, for whatever reason the fan control on the 240 has never worked
[23:03:26] chompydile: Because it likely doesnt have it at all
[23:03:36] EvilGuru: It wouldn't surprise me
[23:03:37] chompydile: I have a 240 and had to put a different HSF on it
[23:03:57] EvilGuru: Worse, the thing is dual slot
[23:04:03] chompydile: As far as heat though I dont think it was that bad...
[23:04:26] EvilGuru: If you're going to take up a second slot you might as well stick a large HSF on it and forgoe the crazy fan
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[23:05:03] chompydile: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2396/geforce . . . pcie-x8.html
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[23:05:44] EvilGuru: chompydile: Looks good; I wonder if 14gb/s is enough b/w for deinterlacing
[23:06:11] chompydile: If that bothers you, there is always the gt 640 rev 2
[23:06:17] chompydile: as long as they are gk208 based parts
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[23:06:41] EvilGuru: chompydile: It bothers me only as much as I'd like to avoid the hassle of an RMA ;)
[23:06:41] chompydile: Although usually with cards that cheap, they lack the good fans
[23:07:07] EvilGuru: Sure someone here has had a go with one and can feedback
[23:08:36] chompydile: At least the gt 640 rev 2 is the "highest" of the value cards, past that you get into more gaming oriented stuff
[23:09:31] EvilGuru: More power and noise for me; I've got two 580 GTX cards on the desk but they're just too juicy for my mythbox
[23:10:29] EvilGuru: The 630 rev. 2 seems interesting, though, thank you :)
[23:10:31] chompydile: Possibly, depends on how well they handle idle. Now thats the thing though, its usually not THAT bad
[23:11:00] chompydile: both of those are gk208 based, as in more recent... I would find it odd if they couldnt handle video stuffs
[23:11:11] wagnerrp: mmm... a nice movie with just one big M2TS
[23:11:19] chompydile: They are rather cut back, only 64-bit memory bus... but still
[23:11:51] EvilGuru: 700 gflop/s on 14.4GB/s
[23:12:07] wagnerrp: that doesn't sound right
[23:12:16] EvilGuru: *SP
[23:12:16] chompydile: It is
[23:12:27] chompydile: The 640 is like 30gb/sec or something
[23:12:34] chompydile: which is still slow compared to gaming cards
[23:12:50] EvilGuru: A K20c, which I regard as being b/w crippled, is 200gb/s for 3000 gflop/s
[23:12:52] wagnerrp: that GK208 isn't artificially restricted?
[23:13:14] wagnerrp: like... the GT630 gets the binned chips with a bunch of damaged cores?
[23:13:34] chompydile: I wouldnt think so, the GK208 if I remember was designed for the value line
[23:13:37] wagnerrp: it just seems odd they would put the same exact core with the same exact specs in two different cards
[23:14:07] EvilGuru: wagnerrp: Might have three SMX's but only two enabled
[23:14:52] EvilGuru: Even if the third is good it probably will not help performance, so they may not bother differentiating
[23:15:03] chompydile: Well thats the issue sadly, your stuck to nvidia for vdpau
[23:15:16] chompydile: If you want it to work rather >_>
[23:15:36] wagnerrp: my GMA HD works just fine
[23:15:50] chompydile: intel?
[23:15:56] wagnerrp: yeah
[23:16:02] EvilGuru: wagnerrp: What deinterlaces there?
[23:16:09] wagnerrp: one of the opengl ones
[23:16:11] chompydile: I have processor graphics on mine, but I think when I tried vdpau it exploded
[23:16:40] wagnerrp: well of course software, not VDPAU
[23:16:50] chompydile: Ah ok
[23:17:07] chompydile: Thats another option too, wouldnt any cpu from the past 5 years be able to do that in software?
[23:17:30] wagnerrp: discounting Atom or ARM, yes
[23:17:44] wagnerrp: or those E-series AMDs
[23:17:49] wagnerrp: or Intel's ULV chips
[23:20:46] chompydile: Exploding dinosaurs blamed
[23:31:02] wagnerrp: huh?
[23:36:04] EvilGuru: Well, I best be off for the night: If anyone knows of 2x deinterlacing working at 1080i w/ a 630 rev. 2, ping me!
[23:51:33] wagnerrp: this sucks...
[23:51:43] wagnerrp: why can't they make these things easy to rip
[23:58:37] wagnerrp: here we go. i bet the 800s are the primary sequence

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