| Thursday, October 3rd, 2013, 00:06 UTC | ||
| [00:06:49] | Hydroponx: | 2GB Ram enough for a frontend ? |
| [00:07:22] | lucas^: | I'd think so |
| [00:07:57] | wagnerrp: | i would say it's the minimum |
| [00:08:06] | wagnerrp: | because it's hard to buy a PC these days and get less than that |
| [00:09:21] | Hydroponx: | yea |
| [00:09:29] | Hydroponx: | i'm building a VM to run it though |
| [00:09:47] | Hydroponx: | and considering ordering a couple of 16GB ram kits |
| [00:16:28] | biffhero: | wow, that sounds awesome. |
| [00:16:54] | biffhero: | I have two hours to work on this crazy hdhr recording problem. Here goes nothing. |
| [00:18:59] | Hydroponx: | what souds awesome ? |
| [00:20:34] | Hydroponx: | sounds * |
| [00:21:25] | biffhero: | it sounds like an awesome thing to have 32G of RAM available near enough a watching area to dedicate 2G to a frontend. |
| [00:21:37] | Hydroponx: | oh :) |
| [00:22:09] | Hydroponx: | it's my gaming machine, 8cores @ 8GB right now w/ 4 disks ranging from 256GB to 2TB |
| [00:22:40] | biffhero: | gulp! |
| [00:22:43] | biffhero: | how much did that cost? |
| [00:22:50] | biffhero: | (if you don't mind me asking) |
| [00:22:57] | Hydroponx: | it's a couple years old ... |
| [00:23:09] | Hydroponx: | was less than 1k for sure |
| [00:24:01] | Hydroponx: | yea .. |
| [00:24:02] | biffhero: | awesome. I wonder if I should look at something like that for my kid. He's 15,and limps along with hand me down laptops. |
| [00:24:19] | Hydroponx: | 589 + hard drives and video card |
| [00:24:37] | Hydroponx: | but, i carried my old card over for another year or so if i remember right |
| [00:24:43] | biffhero: | OK, so I have a HDHR problem. No recordings from the HDHR work. I can get the status url from them while a recording is going on, but nothing makes it to the hard drive. |
| [00:31:16] | biffhero: | Data: When I fire off a recording manually, the status query of my HDHR shows me that I am using "rtp://192.168.10.129:52541" "netstat -ln" on my backend shows that port being used. That's good. However, "ls -alrht /proc/11247/fd/ | grep 525 | wc -l" returns "0". |
| [00:32:11] | biffhero: | I don't know enough about how mythtv / linux / networking works to know if the mythtvbackend has UDP port 52541 open whether or not it will show up as an open file descriptor in /proc/PID/fd/ |
| [00:34:39] | biffhero: | I just checked, and I am able to write to the recordings directory as the mythtv user. |
| [00:39:02] | biffhero: | Latest HDHR firmware, check. |
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| [00:51:11] | biffhero: | nope, nope, my bad. running a "watch" on lsof -iUDP, I see mythbackend opening up an UDP socket as soon as the hdhr starts streaming (as I presume it should) |
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| [01:05:37] | biffhero: | Hrm. MythSocketThread(sock 0x95ad270:93): socket closed |
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| [01:12:35] | biffhero: | OK, so I have verified that there are UDP packets coming _from_ the HDHR to my mythbox, on the same UDP port as mythbackend is listening. I have verified that the HDHR and myth are both sending and listening on that port. It just seems like myth isn't writing to disk. Maybe the data from the HDHR isn't good, so myth "can't get a lock" (does that even make sense?), so therefore it doesn't save the stream to disk? I saw one thread which |
| [01:12:35] | biffhero: | said they "lost" one of their two USB tuners, so they moved it to a windows host, and then it was OK on windows and linux. That sounds an awful lot like a reboot fixed it to me. I am going to try that now. |
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| [01:48:05] | biffhero: | ATSCStreamData::HandleTables(): Unknown table 0x81 |
| [01:48:12] | biffhero: | that's the one I can't get past right now. |
| [02:01:20] | Hydroponx: | eh |
| [02:01:33] | Hydroponx: | got myth installed and updated... |
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| [02:03:04] | biffhero: | cool. |
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| [02:06:47] | Clam: | hello people |
| [02:07:29] | biffhero: | Off to my meeting. see ya. |
| [02:07:40] | Clam: | later buddy |
| [02:08:15] | Clam: | currently installing mythbuntu as we speak. |
| [02:08:43] | Clam: | not sure what im going to do about the IR support i have an hp ovu4001 |
| [02:08:57] | Clam: | i remember reading of someone that was able to get it working |
| [02:09:06] | Clam: | but i cant find it >_< |
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| [02:14:45] | Clam: | dang i thought more people would be up lol |
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| [02:15:12] | wagnerrp: | i think people simply have no idea what a "ovu4001" is |
| [02:15:37] | wagnerrp: | looks like a standard MCEUSB receiver |
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| [02:16:25] | Clam: | yes |
| [02:16:28] | Clam: | i found it |
| [02:16:30] | Clam: | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux . . . orks-843751/ |
| [02:16:53] | Clam: | google was not liking me today for some reason |
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| [02:17:47] | Hydroponx: | weird ... |
| [02:17:55] | Hydroponx: | tuning on the actual backend works fine |
| [02:18:09] | Hydroponx: | times out when trying from the new, remote frontend |
| [02:18:57] | wagnerrp: | you have the frontend connected to the database on the backend? |
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| [02:19:06] | wagnerrp: | you have your backend configured to listen on the network? |
| [02:23:37] | Hydroponx: | yep |
| [02:23:41] | Hydroponx: | it's connected |
| [02:24:03] | Hydroponx: | and listens fine when i run a windows myth build ... |
| [02:29:24] | Hydroponx: | can telnet to the port, just realised i forgot to clear the logs before turning it up |
| [02:39:37] | Hydroponx: | Protocol version check failure.#012#011#011#011The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty.#012#011#011#011This happens when the backend is too busy to respond,#012#011#011#011or has deadlocked due to bugs or hardware failure. |
| [02:39:48] | Hydroponx: | oh wow, that's a longer message than i thought =/ |
| [02:41:37] | Hydroponx: | and, 2 lines up, the version is returned |
| [02:45:54] | Hydroponx: | http://pastebin.com/tRLTC1GQ |
| [02:46:33] | Hydroponx: | i know there's an audio issue, but it doesn't matter if I can't get video :) |
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| [02:55:00] | Clam: | hmm for some reason the installer didnt find my pchd5500. :( |
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| [03:04:50] | Hydroponx: | i'm tempted to blame hyper-v |
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| [03:25:15] | lucas^: | can the Roku or Apple TV stream the same stuff that Android / iOS tablets can get from the HDHR Prime? |
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| [03:26:26] | lucas^: | you'd think someone would have stuck Android on a thin client and marketed the combination as a TiVo or something |
| [03:26:38] | lucas^: | I'm genuinely wondering if I actually need a cable box anymore |
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| [07:22:41] | shodan45: | am I missing something or does the music player not use mythbackend to serve/stream/etc. files? |
| [07:23:54] | shodan45: | on my frontend, I set the path to where I keep my music on the backend... but it just says the path doesn't exist |
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| [09:11:08] | Merlin83b: | Let the upgrading begin! Mythbuntu 11.04 – 11.10 first. Unsupported release fun! |
| [09:11:54] | jya: | even though I modified my ~/.mythtv/config.xml to point to 127.0.0.1 (my dev box running master); everytime I start it it connects to 192.168.10.11 (my production system running 0.27); and config.xml is reverted to 192.168.10.11… how could that be? |
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| [09:13:28] | jya: | any ideas why? |
| [09:14:35] | Merlin83b: | Try the /etc/mythtv/config.xml |
| [09:15:23] | jya: | there's no such file… this is on a mac |
| [09:16:10] | Merlin83b: | Ah |
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| [09:16:29] | Merlin83b: | Is there a .mythtv/mysql.txt? It's the old way of doing it, but worth a look. |
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| [09:29:43] | jya: | that file is not looked at since 0.27 |
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| [09:33:36] | Merlin83b: | Indeed, s I said, old way. I see you did mention 0.27, seems I skipped over that part on first reading :) |
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| [10:56:42] | Merlin83b: | That's that upgrade done, 11.10–12.04 now. |
| [11:03:31] | wagnerrp: | you can't go straight from 11.04 to 13.10? |
| [11:03:50] | wagnerrp: | you have to step through each subsequent release? |
| [11:05:55] | Merlin83b: | You do, it's the Ubuntu way. |
| [11:06:09] | Merlin83b: | But also I will be stopping at 12.04, it being an LTS release. |
| [11:06:52] | Merlin83b: | And there being recommendations not to go any further and reports of problems form people that have done so. |
| [11:07:18] | Merlin83b: | I value reliability over cutting edgeness – WAF is important! |
| [11:07:47] | wagnerrp: | it's like reviews for products online |
| [11:07:52] | wagnerrp: | there's a selection bias |
| [11:08:19] | wagnerrp: | people who have had a poor experience are far more likely to complain than those who have had no problems |
| [11:08:26] | Merlin83b: | Oh absolutely. |
| [11:08:48] | Merlin83b: | But >12.04 won't get me anything I want. My myth boxes essentially run as appliances. |
| [11:09:14] | Merlin83b: | I'm only leaving 11.04 because I couldn't go past Myth 0.25 on them and there are things I want in 0.26. |
| [11:09:48] | wagnerrp: | well you could, it's just a question of when you start having to build your own packages |
| [11:10:27] | Merlin83b: | Fair point :) |
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| [11:23:36] | Merlin83b: | Oh dear, upgrade breakage. |
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| [12:46:01] | Merlin83b: | Well we're getting there, just need to do something to the permissions on the DVB cards, denied at the moment. |
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| [13:39:15] | Merlin83b: | Argh why can't the backend open the DVB cards :( |
| [13:39:19] | Merlin83b: | Permissions look fine. |
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| [13:40:43] | klopps: | hello |
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| [13:50:24] | klopps: | Having occasional HD stutter with HDHR prime with live tv and recordings. |
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| [14:20:22] | jya: | wagnerrp: you can only go between LTS to another LTS, or one release to the next.. so 10.04 -> 12.04… 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 |
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| [15:51:27] | biffhero: | <Merlin83b> I value reliability over cutting edgeness – WAF is important! <<< I hear you. |
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| [17:18:35] | shodan45: | why does the music player not use the backend to store music files? |
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| [17:21:17] | tgm4883: | shodan45, it's not storage group aware yet |
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| [17:38:40] | shodan45: | tgm4883: is that hard to implement? |
| [17:38:49] | shodan45: | C++ I assume? |
| [17:38:51] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
| [17:38:55] | tgm4883: | yea C++ I think |
| [17:39:07] | tgm4883: | you'd have to ask one of the mythtv devs |
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| [17:52:47] | warped_: | I'm fighting with #11882. Basically it looks like first attempt to play recording gives 10s-15s of black screen + exit prompt. But all next are OK so it looks like this first attempt fixes "something"... |
| [17:52:47] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11882 ** | |
| [18:02:18] | warped_: | Does anybody knows what myth writes to DB after first playback? |
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| [20:04:40] | chompydile: | Damn I need to find who told me about the cmyth plugin for xbmc |
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| [21:38:06] | biffhero: | Anyone want to talk about HDHR non-recording problems? |
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| [22:08:39] | biffhero: | After seeing http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8099#no1 , I don't understand the phrase "set tvformat to <i>and atsc_major|minor_chan to 0</i>" |
| [22:09:20] | biffhero: | I see my channelscan_channel has a bunch of channels in it, but I don't know if that's the right table to be editing. |
| [22:11:55] | biffhero: | oh, I think the "channel" table is a better fit for this sort of fiddling. It seems to have many fewer rows. (266 vs. 2649) |
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| [22:21:05] | biffhero: | Interesting. I modified three fields in the channel table. tvformat went from "ATSC" to "", atsc_major_chan went from 2 -> 0, and atsc_minor_chan went from 1 -> 0. Now I am getting a different set of errors. |
| [22:24:16] | biffhero: | http://pastebin.com/5rZxXKmS makes it look like the mythbackend thinks that the stream is encrypted. |
| [22:26:32] | biffhero: | I wonder if they set the flag, but don't encrypt... |
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| [22:30:01] | biffhero: | I will check with VLC tonight to see if they are actually encrypting the stream. |
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| [22:35:04] | biffhero: | Well, ding ding ding, they _are_ encrypting. Time to put up an HD antenna. |
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| [23:05:56] | ubuthetechguru: | can anyone answer me why my mythtv frontend always says Warning: MythTV wants to upgrade your database for Music schema, from 1005 to 1020? |
| [23:06:19] | wagnerrp: | probably because it wants to upgrade the database schema for mythmusic |
| [23:06:35] | ubuthetechguru: | lol, it asks me everytime thought |
| [23:06:38] | ubuthetechguru: | *though |
| [23:06:47] | wagnerrp: | do you refuse every time? |
| [23:06:51] | ubuthetechguru: | i click yes to the upgrade |
| [23:06:59] | wagnerrp: | then the upgrade is failing |
| [23:07:22] | ubuthetechguru: | i don't even use mythtv for listening to music |
| [23:07:29] | ubuthetechguru: | is there a way to get that error to go away> |
| [23:07:31] | ubuthetechguru: | ? |
| [23:07:40] | wagnerrp: | uninstall mythmusic |
| [23:07:41] | ubuthetechguru: | i click on Listen to Music and nothing happens |
| [23:08:31] | ubuthetechguru: | where would it tell me why the upgrade is failing? |
| [23:09:33] | wagnerrp: | nothing happens because mythmusic refuses to run against the old database |
| [23:09:40] | wagnerrp: | the logs would explain the failure |
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| [23:11:44] | ubuthetechguru: | yeah, i'm just seeing this in the frontend log. main.cpp:601 (mythplugin_init) Couldn't upgrade music database schema, exiting. |
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| [23:12:27] | ubuthetechguru: | wagnerrp, is there a clean way to uninstall that plugin, remove the old dead music database that can't be upgraded, then reinstall the mythmusic plugin? |
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| [23:13:20] | wagnerrp: | you could just drop the relevant tables, and remove the schema entry, but i don't know off hand what those are |
| [23:14:18] | ubuthetechguru: | wagnerrp, ok, maybe another time then. as I said I don't use mythmusic. i'll just uninstall the plugin from the Mythbuntu-Control-Center |
| [23:16:20] | ubuthetechguru: | do you know how mythexort works? I don't see how to export recordings. i am wanting to save a recording off as a .mp4 or .avi file to the mythexport folder I designated. |
| [23:16:35] | wagnerrp: | never used it |
| [23:16:41] | ubuthetechguru: | ok |
| [23:23:03] | ubuthetechguru: | do you know how to activate a user job against a recording? |
| [23:23:38] | ubuthetechguru: | oh dah, nevermind. i can do that from mythweb i think |
| [23:23:38] | wagnerrp: | first, you have to enable it in the jobqueue for each machine you want the job to run on |
| [23:24:05] | wagnerrp: | second, you can either manually tell it to run on a recording, or you can configure your recording rule to have it run automatically on any new recordings made with that rule |
| [23:26:28] | ubuthetechguru: | i can't seem to find where you enable user jobs? is it in the frontend or backend setup? |
| [23:29:03] | wagnerrp: | next page after you defined the user jobs |
| [23:37:54] | ubuthetechguru: | nah, the mythexport setting actually came up in a browser window for me. it's linked somehow within the Mythbuntu-Control_center |
| [23:38:02] | ubuthetechguru: | i found the user jobs within the backend setup |
| [23:38:11] | ubuthetechguru: | it was already enabled |
| [23:39:12] | ubuthetechguru: | hmmm, but it's not showing up as a job within mythweb. i only have transcode, flag commercials, look up metadata, and fixseek |
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| [23:49:10] | ubuthetechguru: | wow, i can't believe it's this hard o figure out how to be able to export recorings |
| [23:49:31] | wagnerrp: | any reasons you can't just use the mpegs? |
| [23:52:53] | ubuthetechguru: | i guess i was trying to save some space |
| [23:53:04] | ubuthetechguru: | but this is turning out to be a nightmare. lol |
| [23:53:17] | wagnerrp: | if it's just for local storage, it's much easier, and only slightly more expensive, to just leave the original |
| [23:53:43] | wagnerrp: | the only real worth in transcoding is if you need to for storage or support on a mobile device |
| [23:56:36] | ubuthetechguru: | its weird looking at mythweb, and then settings for all hosts, it only shows me UserJob1 and UserJobDesc1, but then all the other ones only have UserJobDesc, there's no place to enter the command |
| [23:57:42] | ubuthetechguru: | but when I look at my mythbackend setup, i see the user job2 filled in with a description but no command so I don't think the little browser utility thats http://localhost/mythexport/setup.cgi is working correctly |
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