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| [01:38:02] | gigem: | skd5aner: If it's using the correct recording rule, I don't know what it could be. There is a special case where if the adjusted time results in a 0 or negative duration (i.e. negative offset), it is ignored, but that shouldn't be the case here. |
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| [02:10:40] | skd5aner: | gigem: is there anything I can provide you to help test? I could give you the rule and see if you could replicate – you're in the US right? |
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| [03:00:37] | wagnerrp_: | "you can't expect me to shoot somebody on an empty stomach" |
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| [03:10:00] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way to stop commflag in progress from console or web? |
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| [03:11:00] | wagnerrp: | from a terminal, you can kill it |
| [03:11:19] | wagnerrp: | front the frontend, you can go into the information center, system status, and issue a stop |
| [03:11:26] | wagnerrp: | from mythweb, no options |
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| [03:11:33] | tonsofpcs: | ah, I can just kill mythcommflag |
| [03:11:35] | tonsofpcs: | awesome :D |
| [03:11:37] | tonsofpcs: | cheers |
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| [03:12:37] | tonsofpcs: | it eats too much cpu, makes DLNA stutter. disabled auto and killed em all (3 were running) |
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| [03:13:16] | wagnerrp: | the only reason it should be able to cause problems with dlna is because it's eating too much disk io |
| [03:13:42] | wagnerrp: | which would require a beefy CPU and too few disks |
| [03:13:53] | tonsofpcs: | average load was 1.2+ over the previous minute with them running, 0.4 with them gone. |
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| [03:14:15] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't mean what you think it means |
| [03:14:58] | wagnerrp: | that's the time averaged number of active processes, not the CPU load |
| [03:15:33] | tonsofpcs: | it doesn't mean what uptime says it means? |
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| [03:16:14] | wagnerrp: | 1.2 just means that on average, 1.2 processes are waiting on something at any given moment |
| [03:16:25] | wagnerrp: | that may be CPU, that may be IO, that may be a number of things |
| [03:16:36] | wagnerrp: | it reports an active process, not necessarily one consuming CPU |
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| [03:17:12] | wagnerrp: | you could have a CPU load in the dozens, but that doesn't mean your processor is actually running at 2000% |
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| [04:08:12] | gigem: | skd5aner: The output from "mythbackend -v schedule --loglevel debug --testsched" might be helpful, but I'm not optimistic. If you want me to try to recreate the problem, send me the output this SQL: "select * from record where recordid = <yourrecid>\G". Note the use of "\G" instead of ";". |
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| [04:13:28] | skd5aner: | gigem: hmmm, I'm looking at this now |
| [04:14:13] | skd5aner: | I actually had 2 recordings of the same game, one on SD (ruleid 1095) – which is the custom search rule |
| [04:14:59] | skd5aner: | gigem: and the other on HD (ruleid 1803) which doesn't exist in the record table |
| [04:15:27] | skd5aner: | does that make sense? |
| [04:16:13] | skd5aner: | when I go in to the oldrecorded table, 1083 shows a bunch of NFL games, although none of them recorded except the one |
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| [04:24:32] | skd5aner: | this is weird... |
| [04:26:10] | skd5aner: | gigem: I'm going to chalk it up to ghosts... no clue what happened, but let's see what happens this Sunday. Right now, it's saying it should record for 4 hours on a 3 hour broadcast – we shall see |
| [04:26:31] | skd5aner: | The last two weeks, It cut the game off at 3 hours... |
| [04:26:41] | skd5aner: | I havne't changed the rule in 4 years, so... |
| [04:27:50] | skd5aner: | g'night! :) |
| [04:42:25] | biffhero: | oh, man, this sucks. I just had three recordings not work. |
| [04:42:42] | biffhero: | The Boss just said, "What does the red outlines mean?" |
| [04:50:44] | biffhero: | load is shooting up. To 16.65 now. a bunch of mythpreviewgen going on against recordings that aren't there. |
| [04:54:14] | biffhero: | ok, killed one of them, they all went away. now I wonder why I see a lot of this in the error logs |
| [04:54:24] | biffhero: | Oct 1 21:54:10 freezer mythlogserver: mythbackend[7729]: E HttpServer97 servicehost.cpp:405 (ProcessRequest) Not Authorized |
| [05:08:13] | biffhero: | Just these two, over and over. |
| [05:08:18] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:07:57 freezer mythlogserver: mythbackend[1553]: E HttpServer95 servicehost.cpp:134 (Invoke) MethodInfo::Invoke – An Exception Occurred: Not Authorized |
| [05:08:18] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:07:57 freezer mythlogserver: mythbackend[1553]: E HttpServer95 servicehost.cpp:405 (ProcessRequest) Not Authorized |
| [05:09:46] | biffhero: | Hrm. I just re-scheduled the recording to happen via the SD cable box,and it is recording now. Oh, wait, it's not. It's recording the static again. I think that means my ivtv isn't on channel 3. |
| [05:11:08] | biffhero: | ivtv-tune -c 3 returned... something. |
| [05:11:53] | biffhero: | but when I tried to watch it, nothing. Hrm. |
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| [05:13:01] | biffhero: | oh, phew! It's recording. However, it takes 15–20 seconds to start playback, and then it hangs forever. It's like it is buffering for a very long time. |
| [05:13:03] | chompydile: | Awrrr |
| [05:18:40] | biffhero: | Wow, it takes 46 seconds between hitting play and playing the video. |
| [05:18:42] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:17:08 rob-desktop mythlogserver: mythfrontend[1924]: N CoreContext audioplayer.cpp:167 (ReinitAudio) AudioPlayer: Enabling Audio |
| [05:18:42] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:17:54 rob-desktop mythlogserver: mythfrontend[1924]: I CoreContext avformatdecoder.cpp:2141 (ScanStreams) AFD: Opened codec 0xafc3c20, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video) |
| [05:18:52] | biffhero: | once the second line displays, it's all good. |
| [05:22:06] | biffhero: | I think I found the problem. |
| [05:22:08] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:21:29 rob-desktop mythlogserver: mythfrontend[1924]: E CoreContext audio/audiooutputalsa.cpp:783 (SetParameters) ALSA: Requested 500000us got 341333 buffer time |
| [05:22:36] | biffhero: | For some reason the front end is trying to buffer too much. |
| [05:22:46] | biffhero: | But the backend isn't recording from HD, either... |
| [05:24:02] | biffhero: | On the backend, still getting this repeatedly. |
| [05:24:04] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:23:45 freezer mythlogserver: mythbackend[1553]: E HttpServer76 servicehost.cpp:134 (Invoke) MethodInfo::Invoke – An Exception Occurred: Not Authorized |
| [05:24:04] | biffhero: | Oct 1 22:23:45 freezer mythlogserver: mythbackend[1553]: E HttpServer76 servicehost.cpp:405 (ProcessRequest) Not Authorized |
| [05:24:13] | biffhero: | But I am using tcpdump to make sure that nothing is using that port. |
| [05:24:51] | biffhero: | and nothing in the apache logs as well. |
| [05:27:36] | biffhero: | looks like this might be it. OPTIONS="--noupnp" |
| [05:28:16] | biffhero: | oh, greaaat, I have to learn upstart now. Hrm. |
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| [05:35:54] | biffhero: | ok, adding --noupnp to /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf seems to have removed those errors. I wonder what the upnp client was. |
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| [05:59:59] | biffhero: | I'm getting further. When I tell the system to do a recording of an HD channel via mythweb, I see good things via hdhomerun_config |
| [06:01:42] | biffhero: | rtp://192.168.10.129:60976 |
| [06:01:42] | biffhero: | ch=qam256:123000000 lock=qam256 ss=92 snq=100 seq=100 bps=38813728 pps=48 |
| [06:01:58] | biffhero: | So the only bad thing is that mythbackend isn't writing to disk. |
| [06:10:40] | biffhero: | I wonder if this is a selinux thing? |
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| [06:16:09] | biffhero: | wow, I'm blown away by the amount of -v all. |
| [06:18:35] | biffhero: | aha. I found that sharkyall has also had this problem. |
| [06:18:50] | biffhero: | http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2012-07-02 |
| [06:18:55] | biffhero: | HDHRStreamHandler mpeg/atscstreamdata.cpp:479 (HandleTables) ATSCStreamData::HandleTables(): Unknown table 0xb3 |
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| [06:34:32] | biffhero: | Oh, I think I know what happened. I bet that Comcast jacked with the channels. |
| [06:35:31] | biffhero: | wait, that doesn't make any sense. |
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| [14:53:56] | gigem: | skd5aner: Was live TV in use at the time? There are known problems when live TV happens to be on the same channel as scheduled recordings. The only other way there shouldn't be a rule ID is if a single or find-one rule was used. |
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| [15:21:01] | skd5aner: | gigem: I think livetv was in use at the time, but not 100% sure |
| [15:21:09] | skd5aner: | I'd say 90% sure that it was though |
| [15:21:27] | skd5aner: | I had guests over that day and I think we just turned on various football games to watch in the background |
| [15:23:53] | gigem: | skd5aner: That's likely it then. Live TV was on the HD channel, so the scheduled recording got moved to SD. |
| [15:24:32] | skd5aner: | Well... |
| [15:25:12] | skd5aner: | I know we didn't turn that channel (CBS) on because we wanted to actually watch that game in the evening when it was done recording... that's how I discovered it cut off the last 5 minutes of the game :( |
| [15:25:21] | skd5aner: | we had Fox playing on Live TV |
| [15:25:52] | skd5aner: | gigem: definitely not the same multiplex, and I have 7 QAM tuners, so no contention |
| [15:26:02] | skd5aner: | (not including virtual tuners) |
| [15:26:30] | skd5aner: | It could have accidently been turned on for a few minutes though, so maybe it did get pushed?? |
| [15:26:52] | skd5aner: | gigem: oh well, I'm more than willing to just keep an eye on it and see if it happens again or not :) |
| [15:28:04] | skd5aner: | gigem: thanks, as always, for trying to figured it out with me... I rarely, if ever, have seen the scheduler truly mess up like that, so I was a bit concerned which is why I brought it to you attention :) |
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| [17:59:45] | lucas^_: | do people tend to just set up extenders to their main TVs, or do they have dedicated MythTV setups just for their TV, or do you guys tend to buy TiVo boxes as well |
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| [18:00:31] | lucas^: | just bought an HDHR Prime, should be here by Friday. going to have to bite the bullet and get Comcast I guess |
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| [18:07:50] | biffhero: | I bought an Acer Revo for my frontend. |
| [18:07:53] | jm|laptop: | these new recording rules |
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| [18:08:02] | jm|laptop: | did it drop "Record at any time on this channel" ?! |
| [18:09:22] | lucas^: | revo. going to have to look into that, thanks |
| [18:10:32] | jm|laptop: | oh – it's in filters now? |
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| [18:56:21] | skd5aner: | jm|laptop: yes, it's a filter now |
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| [19:08:31] | Korny: | hmm |
| [19:08:47] | Korny: | If the acer revo is still atom based, avoid it like the plague |
| [19:08:53] | Korny: | IMO |
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| [19:36:19] | warped_: | Hi all. Can somebody tell me what mythplayer writes to DB during first playback of recording? |
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| [19:40:40] | warped_: | I'm fighting with #11882. Basically it looks like first attempt to play recording gives 10s-15s of black screen + exit prompt. But all next are OK so it looks like this first attempt fixes "something"... |
| [19:40:40] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11882 ** | |
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| [19:50:08] | trumee: | i am trying to check if commercial detection is working on my files. mythutil --getcutlist --chanid 1002 --starttime 20130927153000 returns Cutlist: 27417–33351,76813–84269 |
| [19:50:29] | trumee: | What does Cutlist mean? is it related to specific time in the video? |
| [19:51:07] | trumee: | i want to find out the time at which the advert was detected, is that possible through cli? |
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| [20:27:39] | biffhero: | Korny: I bought this probably 3 years ago. I totally agree that there must be a newer, cheaper, therefore better, frontend. I think it's time to buy one, as a matter of fact. |
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| [20:39:56] | lucas^: | trumee: those are frame numbers you're getting back. the frames within that range are to be cut out from the video, or hidden, during playback |
| [20:40:59] | lucas^: | typically for NTSC video it's 29.97 frames per second, so divide 27417 / 29.97 and you'll get a timecode of 914 seconds |
| [20:41:32] | trumee: | lucas^, thanks |
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| [21:00:05] | biffhero: | lucas^: why the .97, and not 30.00 ? |
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| [21:04:44] | lucas^: | 914 seconds / 60 = 15 minutes, 914 seconds % 60 = 14 seconds, so 15:14 is the start of the commercial block / cutpoint |
| [21:06:00] | lucas^: | I think 29.97 stems from a practice called telecining where one frame is added every 30,000 frames, possibly to line up with 24fps movies or something |
| [21:06:09] | biffhero: | oh. |
| [21:06:15] | lucas^: | basically it's some obscure holdover from the days where frames were actually on filmprint |
| [21:06:29] | lucas^: | and editing meant getting out the glue and pasting film reels together |
| [21:06:44] | lucas^: | PAL is 30 or 24 or something I think |
| [21:07:09] | lucas^: | then there's some types of 1080p/60Hz content which actually comes in at 59.94 fps |
| [21:07:35] | lucas^: | bottom line is, check the MPEG-2 file with a utility like ffmpeg or mplayer so you can actually determine the framerate rather than just guessing |
| [21:08:02] | lucas^: | but the utility I always use for commercial cutting (comskip) reports framenumbers at 29.97fps regardless of what the source content actually is |
| [21:09:02] | lucas^: | if you want to use ffmpeg/etc. to actually perform these cuts/joins, there can be problems in syncing a/v and getting accurate cuts because of the way MPEG-2 encodes frames |
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| [21:09:44] | lucas^: | if you just throw it into an EDL file, mplayer / vlc / etc. can actually use the EDL cutlist to skip commercials automatically, but then you're wasting space by still storing the commercials |
| [21:10:11] | lucas^: | but then, MPEG-2 is also a big waste of space. ideally you'd strip commercials and transcode to MPEG-4 H.264/AAC |
| [21:10:23] | lucas^: | (I wrote a utility that does all this crap automatically) |
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| [22:36:24] | biffhero: | lucas^: do you have it as a job that runs after each recording? I'm not really needing to save space. |
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| [23:44:53] | lucas^: | originally set it up to potentially run as a job, but I usually manually execute it because commercial detection isn't always correct or accurate |
| [23:45:53] | lucas^: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Transcode.py |
| [23:46:32] | lucas^: | one thing I have to do still is package it up in a bundle and include all the various tools necessary to make it work. currently you kind-of have to download and install them yourself |
| [23:46:33] | Hydroponx: | lucas^, how often do you see a problem with it ? |
| [23:47:31] | lucas^: | I don't use mythtv very often these days so can't speak to mythcommflag's accuracy, but back in the day it usually nailed most commercial transitions |
| [23:48:11] | lucas^: | every now and then you'll see part of your program flagged as a long commercial, or part of a commercial which sneaks past |
| [23:48:23] | Hydroponx: | ah |
| [23:48:35] | lucas^: | but MythTV's UI makes it unbelievably easy to correct the markup |
| [23:49:05] | lucas^: | the problem is, networks are catching on to what we're doing (and TiVo, and 'the Hopper' by Dish, etc.) |
| [23:49:18] | lucas^: | and so they're adjusting how their logos display ever so slightly |
| [23:49:37] | lucas^: | and embedding small thirty-second clips of extra show content into a commercial block |
| [23:50:27] | Hydroponx: | i only have the one frontend running right now, might have to just stand up a vm for another one, i have plenty of power to do it |
| [23:50:59] | lucas^: | then there's TBS / USA / etc. which does some really evil things like play the beginning of an episode in a tiny window up top, showing the credits for the last episode on another window in the bottom, and showing ads for other shows along the borders |
| [23:51:34] | Hydroponx: | i rarely watch usa |
| [23:51:54] | Hydroponx: | and don't record it or tbs usually |
| [23:51:59] | lucas^: | what I'd really like to do is extend this so that shows which stuff two 15-minute episodes into a 30-minute block get properly split into two episodes, looking up each on TTVdb |
| [23:52:16] | lucas^: | mostly cartoons on Nick / Disney / etc. like Phineas and Ferb |
| [23:52:37] | Hydroponx: | cartoon network does it sometimes to |
| [23:52:49] | lucas^: | Regular Show is another good example, yeah |
| [23:52:54] | wagnerrp: | lucas^: as i understand it, the hopper uses hand-crafted commercial lists |
| [23:53:23] | lucas^: | seriously? god I'd hate to be that guy |
| [23:53:48] | lucas^: | what do they have, 300+ channels? |
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| [23:55:58] | Hydroponx: | easily, i'm sure |
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