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| [00:29:55] | gizmobay: | I compile mythtv and I just changed my QT version and I forgot to do a make clean before I changed qt. How can I manually do a make clean? |
| [00:30:09] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [00:31:06] | gizmobay: | No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf |
| [00:31:22] | gizmobay: | can't do a make clean thus I can't use the new qt directory |
| [00:31:43] | wagnerrp: | run configure |
| [00:31:57] | gizmobay: | still uses the old qt path |
| [00:32:02] | gizmobay: | when I run make |
| [00:32:11] | wagnerrp: | then your system is misconfigured |
| [00:33:49] | gizmobay: | It's not changing my qt directory when I run config |
| [00:34:07] | wagnerrp: | because your system is still configured to use the old directory |
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| [00:34:20] | wagnerrp: | and configure is doing what your toolchain is telling it to do |
| [00:34:21] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [00:34:41] | gizmobay: | I set the QTDIR to the new one |
| [00:34:55] | wagnerrp: | wasn't "QTDIR" a Qt3 thing? |
| [00:35:08] | mattwj2002: | what is the minimum specs for recording tv to the hard drive? |
| [00:35:08] | gizmobay: | I don't think so |
| [00:35:12] | mattwj2002: | 4 HDTV tuners? |
| [00:35:23] | gizmobay: | If I would've done a make clean first I'd be okay |
| [00:35:32] | wagnerrp: | minimum for recording from four tuners? |
| [00:35:52] | mattwj2002: | yeah |
| [00:36:29] | wagnerrp: | you could get by on one (plus a separate one for the database) |
| [00:37:26] | mattwj2002: | huh ? |
| [00:37:29] | mattwj2002: | one tuner? |
| [00:37:36] | wagnerrp: | hard drive |
| [00:38:03] | wagnerrp: | one hard drive would be sufficient, if your database was stored elsewhere |
| [00:38:13] | mattwj2002: | oh well I am just looking for an inexpensive way to add more storage |
| [00:38:27] | wagnerrp: | add more hard drives |
| [00:38:43] | mattwj2002: | my current system only handles one drive |
| [00:38:55] | mattwj2002: | I could do usb external...... |
| [00:39:00] | mattwj2002: | but that is just painful |
| [00:39:00] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [00:39:03] | wagnerrp: | you could... you shouldn't... |
| [00:39:09] | mattwj2002: | exactly |
| [00:40:01] | gizmobay: | I just installed qt4-qmake to get it to do a make clean then removed and now Im good to go |
| [00:40:40] | wagnerrp: | you aught to have had it installed already |
| [00:40:49] | wagnerrp: | qmake is used to build the Makefiles |
| [00:41:15] | gizmobay: | yeah I changed Qt to a different version and the qmake is in a different folder |
| [00:43:22] | jm|laptop: | mattwj2002: I record to a local hard drive, then migrate the recordings to my file server, which is shared back to the mythbackend |
| [00:43:50] | mattwj2002: | how do you migrate? |
| [00:45:16] | jm|laptop: | find /home/mythtv/storage/default/ -type f -ctime +1 -exec mv {} ........ |
| [00:45:34] | mattwj2002: | jm|laptop: |
| [00:45:55] | wagnerrp: | hopefully at a time when there are no ongoing recordings |
| [00:45:56] | mattwj2002: | that doesn't give you descent file names though |
| [00:46:03] | wagnerrp: | so? |
| [00:46:17] | mattwj2002: | how can you tell one show from the other? |
| [00:46:18] | wagnerrp: | as long as you're keeping it in the storage group, mythtv doesn't care |
| [00:46:19] | jm|laptop: | mattwj2002: they're still in the database |
| [00:46:37] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to make human readable names is because you're moving them outside mythtv |
| [00:46:40] | jm|laptop: | wagnerrp: it does tend to happen very early in the morning |
| [00:47:11] | mattwj2002: | hmmmm |
| [00:47:11] | jm|laptop: | and at any rate I think xfs is up to promoting write over read |
| [00:47:33] | mattwj2002: | I apparently don't understand storage groups |
| [00:47:34] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [00:47:46] | jm|laptop: | my setup is rather complicated with zfs-backed iscsi too – but you could just use nfs/samab |
| [00:47:49] | jm|laptop: | samba* |
| [00:47:51] | wagnerrp: | you define one or more directories in mythtv-setup |
| [00:48:01] | wagnerrp: | mythtv then load balances recordings over them |
| [00:48:09] | wagnerrp: | and will search for recordings among any of those defined drives |
| [00:48:20] | mattwj2002: | cool |
| [00:48:27] | jm|laptop: | helpfully, it also looks for recordings in Video directories |
| [00:48:29] | wagnerrp: | as long as your recordings can be found in one of those directories, mythtv will be able to play them |
| [00:48:42] | wagnerrp: | it does... it really shouldn't |
| [00:48:56] | mattwj2002: | that can be a remote computer too huh? |
| [00:48:56] | jm|laptop: | in such a way that it will record /only/ to the local drives, but will playback from the remote 'directory' |
| [00:49:03] | wagnerrp: | mythtv defines the storage group that a recording was stored to in the database |
| [00:49:13] | wagnerrp: | it will search among directories in that storage group |
| [00:49:27] | jm|laptop: | as I did not want a) to rely on my fs being there all the time b) use the file server as recordable storage |
| [00:49:30] | wagnerrp: | and failing to find the file, it will proceed to search among any directories in any storage group |
| [00:49:46] | jm|laptop: | wagnerrp: and that was an awesome design measure |
| [00:49:52] | wagnerrp: | it was really meant for multiple recording storage groups, but it was programmed before the Video Library used them |
| [00:50:05] | jm|laptop: | a tidy workaround all the same |
| [00:50:08] | wagnerrp: | ideally, the video library and any other "special" groups should be skipped during that exhaustive search |
| [00:50:38] | jm|laptop: | "I intend to find this recording, damnit!" |
| [00:51:01] | wagnerrp: | but there's no reason you couldn't define an "archive" storage group, move your recordings into that, and have them found that way |
| [00:51:08] | jm|laptop: | ^^^ this |
| [00:51:32] | jm|laptop: | "non-transient" :) |
| [00:51:45] | wagnerrp: | i'm just saying that behavior was put in there when storage groups were only used for recordings |
| [00:51:55] | wagnerrp: | and now it's no longer entirely appropriate |
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| [01:03:26] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp and jm|laptop |
| [01:03:27] | mattwj2002: | http://amzn.com/B003X26VV4 |
| [01:03:31] | mattwj2002: | what do you think of that? |
| [01:04:46] | mattwj2002: | the only thing is I need to make sure it'll work with linux |
| [01:07:08] | mattwj2002: | nevermind it has issues |
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| [01:17:27] | wagnerrp: | if he were still here, i would ask him if he actually had an esata jack |
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| [01:29:54] | Oleg_: | I just watched the last three episodes of "Breaking Bad" |
| [01:29:55] | jm|laptop: | or indeed usb3 |
| [01:31:52] | wagnerrp: | isn't esata more common? |
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| [01:32:23] | wagnerrp: | the only real advantage USB3 has over it is power, and you're not going to drive a disk array over USB3 |
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| [01:39:48] | lucas^: | Oleg_: Ozymandias was brutal |
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| [01:40:46] | Oleg_: | yeah |
| [01:41:58] | lucas^: | HDHR Prime, DCR-2560, or Ceton InfiniTV 4? |
| [01:42:24] | wagnerrp: | how many tuners do you want? |
| [01:43:35] | lucas^: | don't really need all that many, it's the idea of yet another black box on my desk that I really care about |
| [01:44:25] | lucas^: | but then I've heard the InfiniTV 4 has to connect as a separate ethernet adapter device, so it's not like it's any more integrated |
| [01:44:40] | wagnerrp: | they're all ethernet devices |
| [01:44:46] | lucas^: | yeah |
| [01:44:53] | wagnerrp: | the HDHR is simply the only one that's physically an ethernet device |
| [01:45:22] | lucas^: | how does it integrate with W7/8MC? |
| [01:45:24] | wagnerrp: | it's a security mechanism that serves to isolate the tuners from the host system, and prevent circumvention of the DRM |
| [01:46:48] | lucas^: | wait, doesn't the dcr2560 come with an ethernet jack |
| [01:46:57] | lucas^: | ... nope, just the dcr3250 |
| [01:47:06] | wagnerrp: | 3250? |
| [01:47:19] | lucas^: | http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_dcr3250.html |
| [01:47:33] | wagnerrp: | so, hdhomerun |
| [01:48:09] | lucas^: | DLNA support. cool |
| [01:48:28] | lucas^: | and Comcast mostly has copy-freely channels? |
| [01:48:42] | wagnerrp: | the 3250 is just a rebranded HDHRP, the 2650 is a rebranded HDHRP with a few different parts soldered onto the board |
| [01:49:07] | lucas^: | seriously? crazy |
| [01:49:20] | lucas^: | back in the day it was Hauppauge bt8x8 chips being rebranded |
| [01:52:20] | lucas^: | looks like the HDHR Prime offers a lot more than just a MythTV/W7MC tuner |
| [01:52:38] | lucas^: | wonder if this HomeRunTV app works on the KFHD |
| [01:52:58] | wagnerrp: | kfhd? |
| [01:53:02] | lucas^: | kindle fire HD |
| [02:02:53] | lucas^: | I just landed a job with Amazon for the ads on the Kindle devices, so they gave me one |
| [02:03:05] | lucas^: | just checked, it's not in their store |
| [02:03:31] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, as I said earlier, clang and mythtv seem to like each other now. I remember that a while ago, you said they didn't like each other, but I used clang to compile mythtv on freebsd 10-alpha 1 and the resulting executables (such as mythbackend) ran with no problems, but they segfault if compiled with gcc46 or gcc48 |
| [02:03:56] | wagnerrp: | you said they didn't like each other. i just said mythtv has only been tested on gcc |
| [02:04:29] | wagnerrp: | however danielk has been running a buildbot on clang for several months now... http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . -64bit-clang |
| [02:07:12] | Oleg_: | on freebsd 9, mythtv executables segfaulted when compiled with clang, but ran fine when compiled with gcc48. However, on freebsd 10, exactly the opposite thing happens: they segfault if compiled with gcc, but run fine if compiled with clang |
| [02:07:39] | wagnerrp: | likely a mismatch with the system libraries |
| [02:07:58] | Oleg_: | maybe |
| [02:08:02] | Oleg_: | I am just a n00b |
| [02:08:02] | wagnerrp: | freebsd9 is compiled using gcc4.2, freebsd10 is compiled using clang |
| [02:09:56] | Oleg_: | my college major is computer science, but I am still a n00b |
| [02:11:56] | ** wagnerrp only took up computers out of necessity ** | |
| [02:12:50] | wagnerrp: | doing structural and fluid dynamics by hand is a pain in the ass |
| [02:16:08] | Oleg_: | okay, if it was a mismatch with the system libraries, could it have been avoided if mythtv had been compiled with correct options? I mean, is it possible to prevent the segfauls that I told you about no matter what compiler is used? |
| [02:16:21] | wagnerrp: | that... i'm not sure |
| [02:17:00] | wagnerrp: | you should be able to produce compatible binaries with two different compilers, but there may be certain procedures necessary to do so |
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| [02:49:41] | BLZbubba: | this "Could not connect to the master backend server." message really needs a snooze button or something |
| [02:50:44] | wagnerrp: | well the frontend can't really do anything if it's not connected to the backend |
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| [03:21:11] | BLZbubba: | sure it can, play videos & music |
| [03:21:33] | wagnerrp: | well music anyway... for now... |
| [03:22:53] | wagnerrp: | ideally, all file access will be shifted to the backend |
| [03:25:35] | ZopharPtay: | jamuconfig used to let you set a override the grabber's metadata for an IMDB/TVDB id that you designate. Is there a way to do this with the new mythvideo grabber that I am missing? |
| [03:26:02] | wagnerrp: | already answered about five hours ago |
| [03:26:20] | ZopharPtay: | missed the answer, will look again. my apologies |
| [03:26:37] | wagnerrp: | you set the inetref inside the recording rule |
| [03:26:49] | wagnerrp: | the inetref use used for all recordings then made using that rule |
| [03:27:16] | ZopharPtay: | not recordings, mythvideo |
| [03:27:55] | wagnerrp: | for television shows, you can apply an override in ~/.mythtv/ttvdb.conf |
| [03:28:13] | wagnerrp: | i believe it's the same syntax as jamu |
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| [03:29:52] | ZopharPtay: | wagnerrp – I'll have a look, thanks for your time. |
| [03:31:03] | ** croccydile self pets ** | |
| [03:31:15] | wagnerrp: | stop that |
| [03:31:20] | wagnerrp: | god will kill a kitten |
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| [03:32:30] | ZopharPtay: | not finding a ttvdb.conf in that location and have to run out for a few hours, but thanks for the lead. I'll put some time into it tomorrow. cheers! |
| [03:32:55] | wagnerrp: | it's not there until you create one |
| [03:33:14] | wagnerrp: | if ttvdb.py does not find one, it just ignores it and continues |
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| [03:33:41] | ZopharPtay: | aaaahhhhhh. logic. you has it. |
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| [08:10:20] | BobLfoot: | Did something change in Myth-0.26 recently as relates to EIT Scanning. For the past 2 or so weeks my program guide has had only 24–30 hours of info rather than the 3 days {72 hours} it used to maintain. |
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| [12:00:47] | jr3us: | I haven't seen any indications of problems with .27, so I'm making the leap into .27 from .26 in a few minutes. Wish me luck! |
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| [13:30:07] | Guest59384: | what program is recommended for compressing raw videos? |
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| [14:09:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ok, here's a pie-in-the-sky question |
| [14:09:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | if I were to go out and purpouse build or buy hardware to be a frontend... what would be the best? |
| [14:09:59] | Korny: | ok? |
| [14:10:03] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ideally small form factor |
| [14:10:23] | ** MrShakeTouchpad is really struggling with his current livingroom frontend setup ** | |
| [14:10:32] | ** Korny would do an intel pentium and use intel graphics ** | |
| [14:10:57] | Korny: | but I have all sorts of hardware in my system right now, except I refuse to use ati for graphics :/ |
| [14:11:32] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I've got a zotac zbox with intel graphics |
| [14:11:39] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and its TERRIBLE as a frontend |
| [14:11:50] | Korny: | MrShakeTouchpad: my current living roomsetup is a nvidia gt520 which is also a gt610 and the lowest ati proccessor possible lol |
| [14:11:50] | MrShakeTouchpad: | its workable using xbmc, but not as an actual mythtv frontend |
| [14:12:03] | Korny: | Atom proccessor? |
| [14:12:39] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea |
| [14:12:42] | Korny: | Only way an atom is useable is with nvidia card (ion/ion2 ect) to offload it too |
| [14:13:28] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yea.... hence my question |
| [14:13:43] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I'm getting to the point that I want to just buy/build something worth using |
| [14:13:49] | Korny: | hold on |
| [14:13:54] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I was hoping raspi would be a silver bullet, but thats not doing it |
| [14:16:10] | Korny: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157451 with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116886 |
| [14:16:22] | Korny: | and in a http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0035FIS2O/r . . . TVPDKIKX0DER |
| [14:16:37] | Korny: | Is what I would do if I wanted the smallest form factor |
| [14:17:00] | Korny: | and lowest power consumption, the only reason I don't run an intel setup for my livingroom frontend is HD audio |
| [14:17:33] | Korny: | Not nessarrly that motherboard but somethign similar |
| [14:17:56] | jr3us: | ok, upgrade is complete. on the BE and on the FE and no problems at this time! |
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| [14:18:14] | MrShakeTouchpad: | hrm... |
| [14:18:16] | jr3us: | was complete an hour ago, but had things to take care of. |
| [14:18:30] | Korny: | MrShakeTouchpad? |
| [14:18:54] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yes |
| [14:18:58] | MrShakeTouchpad: | was looking |
| [14:19:02] | Korny: | ah |
| [14:19:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | thats looking at about 250 bucks, and doesn't include ram or HD |
| [14:19:45] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but not to bad |
| [14:19:58] | Korny: | Don't need that much ram |
| [14:20:05] | MrShakeTouchpad: | no |
| [14:20:07] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but it is a cost |
| [14:20:19] | Korny: | HD you can scavange from old frontend? |
| [14:21:17] | MrShakeTouchpad: | sure... but that leaves my zbox useless |
| [14:21:25] | MrShakeTouchpad: | its not a bad desktop pc with xubuntu on it |
| [14:22:31] | Korny: | If you went micro atx you could get buy a little cheaper probably |
| [14:22:53] | MrShakeTouchpad: | why intel over nvidia or ati? |
| [14:23:17] | jr3us: | drivers |
| [14:23:56] | jr3us: | and mythtv is tuned for vdpau |
| [14:25:12] | jr3us: | this is what i have: |
| [14:25:15] | jr3us: | http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZBOX-HD-ID36BR3D- . . . zbox+blu-ray |
| [14:25:53] | MrShakeTouchpad: | the worst part is I INTENDED to get a zbox with an ion, and ended up with intel GMA graphics |
| [14:26:01] | MrShakeTouchpad: | which turned it into a useless pile of poo |
| [14:26:05] | jr3us: | blahhst |
| [14:26:13] | jr3us: | exchange it? |
| [14:26:18] | MrShakeTouchpad: | wasn't paying attention when I clicked buy |
| [14:26:26] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and waited 6ish months to acutally set it up |
| [14:26:45] | MrShakeTouchpad: | hence why I tried raspi, and then xbmc on the zotac |
| [14:27:02] | MrShakeTouchpad: | but xbmc, while nice in-and-of-itself is just not overly workable as a frontend |
| [14:27:22] | jr3us: | openelec on the raspi isn't bad if you buy the additional codecs |
| [14:27:53] | MrShakeTouchpad: | completely unusable |
| [14:27:56] | MrShakeTouchpad: | constant buffering |
| [14:27:59] | jr3us: | i prefer mythfrontend over xbmc tho |
| [14:28:09] | jr3us: | did you get the additional codecs? |
| [14:28:12] | MrShakeTouchpad: | yep |
| [14:28:17] | jr3us: | wired? |
| [14:28:22] | MrShakeTouchpad: | powerline |
| [14:28:22] | jr3us: | forget wireless |
| [14:28:25] | jr3us: | ok |
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| [14:29:03] | jr3us: | buffering is due to network, so power line may not be giving you the bandwidth req'd |
| [14:29:32] | jr3us: | you try the pi with wired connection ( no powerline) |
| [14:30:06] | jr3us: | i had no buffering problems even with 1080i mpg 2 off antenna |
| [14:30:14] | jr3us: | when wired |
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| [14:32:41] | jr3us: | one caveat to above. the tv was dealing with de-interlace, and not the pi |
| [14:37:06] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I need to take my pi down to the family room and try it direct plugged |
| [14:37:12] | MrShakeTouchpad: | no wire run up to the livingroom yet |
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| [14:37:23] | jr3us: | sounds like plan |
| [14:38:35] | Guest59384: | what program is recommended for compressing raw videos? |
| [14:38:37] | jr3us: | btw, which power line devices are you using |
| [14:38:43] | jr3us: | handbrake |
| [14:38:56] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I don't remember the brand, but its the higher speed one |
| [14:38:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | I got it at best buy |
| [14:39:03] | jr3us: | 200mb? |
| [14:39:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | 500? |
| [14:40:17] | jr3us: | wouldn't necessarily matter tho if there is something electrically noisy plugged into your house |
| [14:40:25] | MrShakeTouchpad: | actiontech 500mbps |
| [14:40:36] | MrShakeTouchpad: | and no doubt there is |
| [14:40:43] | jr3us: | I understand sometimes bad wall warts can be noisy |
| [14:40:45] | MrShakeTouchpad: | 2 commercial refrigerators |
| [14:40:46] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ha |
| [14:41:11] | jr3us: | the fridges my be a possibility |
| [14:44:15] | MrShakeTouchpad: | gotta keep the beer cold |
| [14:44:16] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ha |
| [14:44:38] | jr3us: | true |
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| [15:14:56] | tgm4883: | EoP devices are usually pretty bad for anything but a slow internet connection |
| [15:15:35] | tgm4883: | You've got to be pretty lucky to be in a situation where they work at the rated capacity |
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| [15:17:10] | Merlin83b: | Mine work fine for 1 combined BE/FE, 2 remote FEs :) |
| [15:17:23] | tgm4883: | Merlin83b, then you are lucky |
| [15:17:30] | Merlin83b: | 200mbps thingers from various manufacturers, always chosen because they are cheap. |
| [15:17:35] | Merlin83b: | Happy to be lucky :) |
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| [16:22:09] | Guest59384: | I want to record from an old vcr |
| [16:22:21] | Guest59384: | I need to choose the resolution for capture |
| [16:22:35] | Guest59384: | the recording program have many options |
| [16:22:46] | Guest59384: | but the question is what does the vcr output? |
| [16:23:14] | croccydile: | ntsc is like 720x480 or 720x486 depending on the card |
| [16:23:24] | Guest59384: | it is PAL |
| [16:24:31] | croccydile: | More lines then |
| [16:24:49] | croccydile: | 576? |
| [16:25:10] | Guest59384: | there is one such option |
| [16:25:28] | Guest59384: | there are also options in the 300s |
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| [17:15:02] | chiluk: | is anyone using a gk208 based gt 630 ? 25watts under load makes it look like an awesome mythtv card. |
| [17:15:25] | chiluk: | my only concern is that it may not have enough memory bandwidth to successfully do advanced 2x deinterlacing |
| [17:15:59] | chiluk: | I'm needing to upgrade because I think my 8600gts is finally starting to crap out. |
| [17:17:24] | croccydile: | Oh noes :o |
| [17:17:58] | chiluk: | yeah I know.. sucks to be me. |
| [17:19:13] | mengoshmink: | at least a failing vc is unlikely to lead to data loss |
| [17:19:38] | chiluk: | yeah I'm getting regular, unable to fill frame buffer errors on .25 |
| [17:19:53] | chiluk: | which for now I'm attributing to the video card. |
| [17:20:01] | chiluk: | it hangs the whole frontend. |
| [17:20:04] | croccydile: | chiluk: Not sure why a lack of memory bandwidth would be an issue there |
| [17:20:09] | chiluk: | making the wife not so happy |
| [17:20:32] | chiluk: | well the card uses the onboard ram to do the post-processing of the frames. |
| [17:20:44] | chiluk: | and it's really hampered in that way |
| [17:21:18] | croccydile: | Most of the modern cards are good at idle power though |
| [17:21:37] | chiluk: | yeah.. |
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| [17:21:38] | chiluk: | true.. |
| [17:21:39] | croccydile: | Unless you get a titan, even like a 670 GTX is suppose to idle at like what 10W? |
| [17:22:00] | chiluk: | but it's also cheap-ish.. $70, and does full bit-stream pass-thru |
| [17:22:03] | croccydile: | I forget what website had a list of power consumption for cards |
| [17:22:06] | croccydile: | Ah |
| [17:22:14] | chiluk: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nv . . . essing_units |
| [17:25:40] | chiluk: | my 8600gts is 32 gb/s memory bandwidth the gk208 is 14.4 |
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| [17:26:15] | chiluk: | also peak power usage on the gk208/630 is a measly 25w ... pretty awesome. |
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| [17:30:51] | chiluk: | I have a spare 9600gt and 210 I think I'll try those first |
| [17:31:04] | croccydile: | *Nods* |
| [17:31:14] | croccydile: | 210 is likely geforce fx 5200 grade though :p |
| [17:31:32] | croccydile: | Those were some really BAD cards |
| [17:32:14] | chiluk: | yeah but they are vdpau class c |
| [17:32:38] | chiluk: | some people have reported good results http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU |
| [17:33:00] | croccydile: | I have tha tdisabled here |
| [17:33:19] | chiluk: | you really should try vdpau if you have hardware that supports it. |
| [17:33:23] | chiluk: | it will blow your mind. |
| [17:33:29] | chiluk: | I only buy nvidia cards because of it. |
| [17:35:35] | croccydile: | Not really interested in it since you know... processors have been capable of that sort of thing for at least 6 years now |
| [17:37:01] | chiluk: | hah I'm running an athlon x2 4000+ |
| [17:37:14] | croccydile: | Oh dear |
| [17:37:20] | croccydile: | That is a bit slower then yes :S |
| [17:37:34] | croccydile: | Fast enough for CPU video decode but maybe not for effects |
| [17:37:43] | chiluk: | also if you buy the right video cards you don't need decent cpu. |
| [17:37:55] | chiluk: | not at 1080p... tried it |
| [17:38:08] | chiluk: | also vdpau quality is a ton better than I can get using software decode. |
| [17:38:15] | chiluk: | although I haven't tried it on a decent cpu. |
| [17:38:23] | croccydile: | Ive read otherwise in past comparisons |
| [17:38:33] | croccydile: | The acclerated video quality was substandard compared to CPU |
| [17:38:43] | chiluk: | I'm trickle-down upgrading the media center to an i7 860 soon enough... I'll check aagin. |
| [17:39:23] | croccydile: | My mini-itx is i5–4670 |
| [17:39:33] | croccydile: | So plenty of CPU ^^; processor graphics |
| [17:39:44] | chiluk: | yeah the 860 should be plenty... |
| [17:40:13] | croccydile: | It likely will be |
| [17:42:34] | chiluk: | I still bet vdpau will be better quality... |
| [17:44:10] | croccydile: | *Shrugs* Intel does not support it and I dont actually watch video on the frontend because its useless anyways |
| [17:44:20] | croccydile: | LiveTV is laughably unstable for me |
| [17:44:52] | chiluk: | really? |
| [17:45:02] | chiluk: | I what do you mean by unstable? |
| [17:45:15] | croccydile: | It never fucking works |
| [17:45:17] | chiluk: | I watch livetv all the time. |
| [17:45:23] | croccydile: | Always some goofy error when I try to watch livetv |
| [17:45:29] | chiluk: | except when it fails because of my frame buffer errors. |
| [17:45:34] | croccydile: | However it records fine |
| [17:45:59] | chiluk: | you've got some work to do . |
| [17:46:49] | croccydile: | Yeah right, I gave up on that |
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| [18:04:28] | croccydile: | Now my new issue... getting the USB disks to not spin down |
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| [18:34:05] | croccydile: | Man what the hell |
| [18:34:10] | croccydile: | My iguanair decided to stop working |
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| [18:37:52] | lucas^: | does the HDHR Prime or other cablecard tuners tend to get hot, overheat or malfunction? |
| [18:38:21] | lucas^: | could I stick it somewhere in the back of my desk and not have to worry about overheating? |
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| [18:38:54] | lucas^: | the last few external tuners I had were pretty awful in that respect |
| [18:41:46] | ** croccydile beats it with a stick until it works ** | |
| [18:42:11] | croccydile: | I wish I could help you there, I have a cablecard STB... HDPVR |
| [18:42:35] | croccydile: | Since I can get no defintive answer about cablecard tuners and linux for my provider, I take the safe route |
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| [18:57:14] | lucas^: | what really matters is the copy-freely flag I think |
| [19:02:04] | croccydile: | lucas^: Yeah and nobody has said what brighthouse does |
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| [19:15:39] | mengoshmink: | I feel like a such a fool, anyone point me in a direction (not google) for getting started on installin mythtv on debian wheezy? |
| [19:16:54] | mengoshmink: | I usually install to centos, this is a new experience for me |
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| [19:17:30] | mengoshmink: | I have found a tutorial to do it from source but I though there would be a deb available |
| [19:19:32] | ctmjr: | there is a deb for debian in the multimedia repo but it is unsupported by debian as it breaks things and is not recommended |
| [19:19:54] | mengoshmink: | oh, so it is best installed from source? hmm |
| [19:20:46] | ** mengoshmink feels conflicted, outside his comfort zone but wanting to learn ** | |
| [19:23:54] | mengoshmink: | I wonder if slackware has an easy build process |
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| [19:30:31] | croccydile: | mengoshmink: There is also gentoo :p |
| [19:30:55] | mengoshmink: | I tried gentoo many years ago, its beyond me |
| [19:31:01] | croccydile: | Oh :/ |
| [19:31:10] | mengoshmink: | I was familiar with slackware |
| [19:31:26] | mengoshmink: | I am sort of familiar with redhat |
| [19:32:15] | mengoshmink: | for a server debian seemed like a good way to go, from centos, for btrfs and mythtv but I'm now having doubts |
| [19:32:32] | croccydile: | btrfs is still experimental |
| [19:32:49] | mengoshmink: | I know |
| [19:33:05] | mengoshmink: | but I think its stable enough to risk with my data |
| [19:34:02] | croccydile: | Yeah but what would you really get out of it over ext4 |
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| [19:34:39] | mengoshmink: | from ext4, not a lot but my server is raid1 and lvm, it would simplify things |
| [19:34:55] | croccydile: | Oh |
| [19:35:09] | mengoshmink: | from what I have read tonight I would stay with ext4 if it was just a filesystem thing |
| [19:35:38] | croccydile: | been using gentoo since 2004 here... I cant stand any other distro |
| [19:36:11] | mengoshmink: | I'm starting to feel that way about redhat |
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| [19:36:49] | croccydile: | I forget now what I used before, it must have been crappy :p |
| [19:37:06] | mengoshmink: | lol |
| [19:37:39] | mengoshmink: | I started with slackware, I'm a bleeding edge whore now so I use fedora / recently changed to korora |
| [19:38:28] | croccydile: | I would not mind arch if it had better config file management |
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| [19:38:45] | croccydile: | It really bugs me that they cant just rip off gentoos dispatch-conf |
| [19:39:09] | mengoshmink: | I did consider arch too but then I heard that debugging it can be a pain, not sure I could handle that for my server |
| [19:44:00] | mengoshmink: | oh, dismay, debian multimedia lists mythtv 0.24, thats older than I was expecting |
| [19:46:25] | mengoshmink: | hmm, could try sabayon again |
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| [19:55:44] | mengoshmink: | https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Getti . . . stro_support |
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