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Tuesday, September 17th, 2013, 00:10 UTC
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[00:20:36] smoothifier: in the oldrecorded table, does a value of 0 for duplicate and -3 in recstatus (rsRecorded) mean that the showing has been recorded, but will be re-recorded if the showing is shown again?
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[00:26:11] Oleg_: I am getting this error when compiling mythtv:
[00:26:24] Oleg_: /usr/local/bin/ld: ../../zeromq/src/.libs/libmythzmq.a(libmythzmq_la-zmq.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata.str1.1' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[00:29:55] Oleg_: how do I recompile with -fPIC?
[00:34:18] Oleg_: setenv CXXFLAGS "$CXXFLAGS -fPIC" ?
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[00:49:20] sphery: Oleg_: if you've properly configured mythtv, it will set the proper flags for you
[00:50:15] sphery: Oleg_: that basically means, don't use any of cpu/march/tune and do use ./configure --enable-proc-opt
[00:50:35] Oleg_: ok
[00:50:55] sphery: and, really, you shouldn't set any CFLAGS or CXXFLAGS, either (your environment may have them set, and if so, you should clear them first)
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[00:53:32] smoothifier: sphery: did you see my question about a half hour ago? about the oldrecorded table? i'm just trying to understand how things work a little better.
[00:53:58] sphery: smoothifier: that's part of the equation for allowing re-record
[00:54:19] smoothifier: thanks, i thought i'd read that right
[00:54:22] sphery: but basically yeah
[00:54:35] sphery: recstatus of -3 just means it was recorded
[00:54:49] smoothifier: and if the duplicate field is 1, then the show will not re-record
[00:55:27] sphery: more precisely, that means the show will be considered for duplicate detection, when enabled
[00:55:32] smoothifier: it looks like i'm out of the woods. i really am beginning to appreciate how cool mythtv is :)
[00:56:11] smoothifier: thanks :)
[00:57:41] smoothifier: it's hard to see what's going on in the frontend under the previously recorded screen
[00:58:01] smoothifier: i looked there first but still wasn't sure if shows would be recorded
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[01:05:45] sphery: smoothifier: yeah, I think the easiest way in previously recorded is to hit MENU (or is it SELECT) and if it offers you the option to allow re-record, it means you haven't yet allowed it
[01:06:17] sphery: the hardest part is finding the episode in previously recorded (we need to have a 2-level list with title/subtitle, like watch recordings
[01:06:35] smoothifier: i think what shows up is 'never record' on the ones that have been allowed
[01:07:07] smoothifier: it would be cool to see that 'allow re-record' on the status bar with the whole listing, but i see that real estate is small
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[02:33:17] DonkeyHotei: sphery: i don't see a "clause from the list" for "channel numbers above X"
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[02:36:13] Hydroponx: I think somethings busted with search in 0.26-fixes
[02:37:16] Hydroponx: Search "Children of the Corn" from mythweb and get "The Real Housewives of New Jersey: Children of the Scorned"
[02:37:20] Hydroponx: lol
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[02:39:33] Hydroponx: while I definitely think that %Housewives of % qualifies as a horror show ...
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[02:43:53] Hydroponx: Children of the corn shouldn't be grouped in the same category
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[03:19:03] Oleg_: getting this error:
[03:19:06] Oleg_: logging.cpp:864:25: error: invalid conversion from 'const CODE* {aka const _code*}' to 'CODE* {aka _code*}' [-fpermissive]
[03:19:06] Oleg_: for (syslogname = &facilitynames[0];
[03:19:07] Oleg_: ^
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[03:21:42] klucke: Hey, I'm having problems with fetching movie metadata using 0.26. Getting Error(Input object has no document: lxml.etree._ElementTree) from tmdb.py. Ideas?
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[04:31:42] sphery: DonkeyHotei: Those are just examples. If you don't see one that gives what you need, you need to create your own SQL and type it in manually. That said, there's an example of the SQL you need in the Custom/Priority Recording Rule editor.
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[06:04:45] dekarl: klucke, in case you read the logs... please switch from tmdb.py to tmdb3.py, the old API was scheduled for removal on *last* saturday IIRC
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[06:51:12] caelor: I'm seeing a reproducible segfault in mythmediaserver when a client disconnects from it (mythbuntu builds from yesterday). Backtrace at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6118184/
[06:51:47] caelor: Could a dev give me some guidance on whether you'd like a trac ticket raised on it, if it's probably a config error (although even if it is, should it segfault?), or if it's an obvious fix that doesn't need the overhead of a ticket
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[06:52:54] mrchaotica: hello
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[06:56:02] mrchaotica: So I'd like to create a low-power MythTV backend. I've got a HDHomeRun Dual for tuning and a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo v2 for storage
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[06:56:59] mrchaotica: but I'm looking for a low-power device to run the program guide and scheduler, and to direct the MPEG streams
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[06:58:37] mrchaotica: Is it possible to install a MythTV backend directly on the ReadyNAS? If not, what other sort of device should I get (e.g. an open-firmware router or raspberry pi-like ARM SoC box) to run it?
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[07:03:37] lautriv: mrchaotica, get a mini-itx board, routers and rasperries won't have enought power.
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[07:07:08] mrchaotica: They won't have enough power even if I'm willing to forego any commercial detection or transcoding?
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[07:10:38] lautriv: mrchaotica, don't forget the amount of raw data and mysql.
[07:11:37] caelor: even after you discount transcoding and commercial detection, the database & scheduling takes a surprising amount of processing power
[07:11:49] mrchaotica: hmmm
[07:12:02] mrchaotica: too much for any ARM SoC-type things?
[07:12:16] caelor: too much for any that I know of
[07:12:55] caelor: modern PC hardware is quite efficient when idling
[07:13:30] lautriv: mrchaotica, i had issues with the DB on a server with 4 opteron sockets, solved it by spending a separate spindle for mysql, your arm has not even that speed on the net/usb.
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[07:14:04] mrchaotica: I'm sure PC hardware (esp. mini-itx) is efficient, but I also wanted something that was more like an "appliance"
[07:14:06] caelor: and IIRC, some research suggested that for an equivalent task, an i7 working for1% of the time and sleeping for 99% would use less power than a rPi running 100% throughout
[07:14:46] mrchaotica: I'm really hoping for low power + low cost + low space
[07:15:28] caelor: you could probably choose 2 of the 3.
[07:15:41] mrchaotica: and even when you're talking about mini-itx, stuff like the case and power supply starts to add up (in space and cost)
[07:15:44] caelor: if the old engineering adage is to be believed
[07:16:02] mrchaotica: yeah, I know
[07:16:34] mrchaotica: and I agree that you'd need a decent PC for backend as of a few years ago
[07:16:55] mrchaotica: but I was hoping technology had progressed enough since I last looked into the issue
[07:17:38] caelor: current tech is expensive, as a rule
[07:18:04] caelor: the cheaper stuff is generally equivalent to the expensive stuff from a few years ago
[07:18:38] lautriv: mrchaotica, you may get some thin-client but those have usually no or only flash drives (wearing out)
[07:18:39] mrchaotica: right... I was hoping some ARM thing was generally equivalent to an Athlon XP by now
[07:19:22] mrchaotica: lautriv: that's why one idea would be to run the backend on my NAS (with hard drives)
[07:19:41] mrchaotica: or at least, to run the backend on a device that accesses the NAS
[07:19:50] caelor: generally, NAS devices are only as powerful as they need to be. To keep power consumption & cost down
[07:20:07] lautriv: mrchaotica, ARM lacks on many things, if you have an ARM dual-core @1.2GHz it will be equivalent to an AthlonXP with 400 MHz
[07:20:19] mrchaotica: hmm
[07:20:23] caelor: backend accessing the NAS is do-able (NFS mounts, etc), although transferring the volumes of data myth uses over the network can make it a bottleneck
[07:20:46] caelor: ARM traditionally has been fantastic at low power, specific application computing
[07:21:19] mrchaotica: even something like the Tegra 4 isn't enough to run a backend?
[07:22:12] mrchaotica: or the "Freescale’s Cortex-A9", as in the little $45 cube computer mentioned on Slashdot the other day?
[07:22:41] caelor: the limiting factor isn't _running_ the backend, it's doing so to give a sufficiently high level of "service" (e.g. not breaking up recordings, servicing the frontends in a timely manner, etc)
[07:23:42] lautriv: mrchaotica, it depends on several things like how many channels, how high resolution, how much schedules, recording while showing, etc. etc. you may givbe it a shot but if you fail, you have to buy twice.
[07:23:43] caelor: there is interest in running a backend on those type of boxes, understandably, but Myth was architected to run on general purpose PC hardware, and it takes time to evolve it to make better use of low power devices like that
[07:24:24] mrchaotica: has there been anyone before me who's succeeded so far?
[07:24:37] caelor: mythtv isn't really an "appliance". The general rule is that you'll spend more getting myth running than you would on a commercial PVR that covers the basics.
[07:25:13] caelor: The advantage of Myth is that you understand how it works, get to "play" with making it work, and also can tailor it to your needs
[07:25:17] lautriv: mrchaotica, even frontends fail on a rasperry due to the lack of encoding h/w.
[07:25:38] mrchaotica: take a look at this:http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-cubic-mini-pc-run . . . ale-arm-cpu/
[07:26:10] caelor: I tried a few years back to run my master backend on a mini-itx board (reasonably powerful). All my mini-itx boards are now frontends in little used places, and choke on about half of my recordings
[07:26:28] mrchaotica: apparently, it's specifically designed to work as (for example) an XBMC frontend
[07:26:32] caelor: my backend now runs on an Athlon64 X2 4600
[07:27:15] caelor: which gives "acceptable" results, not using commercial detection (which doesn't work very well in the UK), and only transcoding for archival
[07:27:57] mrchaotica: holy cow, an Athlon 4600 is only "acceptable"?
[07:28:46] mrchaotica: but I don't understand, didn't MythTV start out (and work) when things like an Athlon XP 2100+ were the fastest chips available?
[07:29:00] caelor: it's an old install, needs cleanup, and does other things, but yeah... until 0.27 my reschedule times were ~58seconds (and 1 minute is the point that race conditions become a problem)
[07:29:10] mrchaotica: did it only work properly with SD back then, or something?
[07:29:10] lautriv: mrchaotica, depends on the use-case. several channels and hdtv is a bunch to process.
[07:29:31] caelor: it did. But my setup has multiple lineups, a significant number of channels, and some complex recording rules
[07:30:01] caelor: myth itself uses relatively little cpu. It's mysql that is slow
[07:30:27] mrchaotica: My use case would be 2 HD (broadcast) tuners and 1–2 frontends (usually only 1)
[07:30:44] lautriv: mrchaotica, i have a master with 4 opterons and 2 slaves with 2 xeons, couldn't say it's idling.
[07:31:10] caelor: like most things, server tasks tend to expand to accommodate the capacity available
[07:31:19] lautriv: caelor, are you already on 0.27 ?
[07:31:28] caelor: yes, upgraded yesterday
[07:31:47] lautriv: caelor, does your mythweb work proper ?
[07:32:17] caelor: I've not had much chance to check in the corner cases, but the usual suspects (backend status, recorded programs, etc) look alright
[07:32:52] mrchaotica: what sort of stuff is in the database that makes it so slow?
[07:33:14] mrchaotica: I had assumed it was just program guide data, the schedule, and recording records
[07:33:19] lautriv: caelor, mine does only report the status page, everything else is either a blank page or incomplete and i wonder why. (suspecting php and/or a missing apache mod)
[07:33:20] caelor: mostly for me it was scheduler runs. I've also got my database on a non-ideal FS (ext4, with barriers)
[07:33:41] caelor: lautriv, sounds like it
[07:33:44] mrchaotica: is it collecting a whole bunch of metadata about the streams or something?
[07:33:57] lautriv: XFS rulez.
[07:34:23] caelor: XFS is the only filesystem I've ever had that tied itself up on unclean shutdown that it lost everything
[07:35:03] lautriv: i've seen the opposite so far.
[07:35:27] caelor: I've lost in progress writes, etc, with ext[34], reiser, btrfs, but xfs just couldn't repair the one time I used it. Left a sour taste, but it was years ago...
[07:36:04] caelor: mostly use ext4 for the moment, but starting to seriously consider btrfs for main systems
[07:36:36] caelor: lautriv, anything indicative in the logs about mythweb?
[07:37:02] lautriv: ext4 on 2.6.31 killed anything without reason, was enought for me to not touch it again. beside beeing slower than XFS.
[07:37:58] lautriv: caelor, didn't check it so far, will see soon ( actually fiddling on root on iscsi via PXE )
[07:38:33] caelor: I'll agree, it is slower than xfs. XFS was recommended for recording storage (not sure if it still is). I had a power cut, and when I came back up, I couldn't recover any of my recordings. But at that time, info online was sketchy
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[07:39:56] caelor: iscsi/pxe is probably OT for the channel, but is an interesting concept. I have 3 frontends that PXE/NFSRoot, and also my fileserver does (which meant I could fit an additional drive)
[07:40:29] caelor: I tried to make iscsi/pxe work, and failed, so I'd be interested in your success!
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[07:41:23] caelor: mrchaotica, no, it's not collecting a whole bunch of metadata (other than writing keyframe locations to the db whilst recording), but the scheduler is a very complex set of queries, that involve temporary tables, etc
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[07:46:29] lautriv: caelor, no errors in logs, checked all myth/sys/apache2.log just incomplete or blank pages. what modules do you have enabled in apache ?
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[07:46:54] caelor: I use lighttpd with php fastcgi
[07:47:32] caelor: you might need to increase the php logging level (often confusingly set in /etc/php/php-apache or similar)
[07:52:48] lautriv: caelor, i had issues where apache upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 and that time i missed a module. now again with myth-0.27. often it won't work b/c the php is behind :(
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[08:06:35] caelor: lautriv, what OS do you use?
[08:07:00] lautriv: caelor, debian sid
[08:08:12] caelor: that could explain php recency issues... :) debian tends to be on the trailing edge of updates
[08:14:15] caelor: any luck with increasing php verbosity?
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[08:17:00] lautriv: caelor, i haven't the mentioned file but remember i had to change some code to be compatible with older behaviour, probably overwritten by upgrade and now i'm digging out what i did in the past.
[08:17:14] caelor: ok
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[08:26:04] caelor: following on from my segfault question before, I've opened ticket #11862
[08:26:04] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11862 **
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[08:45:33] lautriv: darn, nothing in logs and not related to earlier issues :( if anyone found or solved where mythweb fails on 0.27 using phph 5.5.3 and apache 2.4 please highlight me !!
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[13:16:48] Oleg_: why does the source code for mythtv have lines that try to implicitly convert constant pointers to pointers, even though it's illegal?
[13:19:00] ** sid3windr CALLS THE C POLICE **
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[13:34:43] trum: anybody using ivtv with additional tuners on PVR-500?
[13:35:24] trum: it is broken in recent kernels.
[13:35:37] trum: or atleast for me.
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[15:37:14] Frank___: Hey guys! About a week ago I received some advice on a problem I had, but it didnt pan out, so now Im moving on to plan B. I have two TV and currently 0 client terminals. I have a ZFS NAS for storage but it cant run a frontend. So Im looking to build two small form machines and put myth tv on them to work with my hdhomerun (ota). But Im a Linux noob, so I was hoping I could get advice on hardware. Once I know what to buy Ill
[15:37:55] Frank___: I was told the best way is to have a slightly more powerful machine sit in the living room that runs both front and backend, and smaller less powerful units at other TV that just run the frontend of things
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[16:56:34] spart: hello, I was looking for some advice on mythtv 0.25 with latest updates on Ubuntu 12.04.2
[16:59:58] spart: Specifically, advice on integration with XBMC. How to get tvdb friendly file naems for my recordings so they can be scanned by XBMC into the library rather than long numbericl names that are internal to mythtv. I use a NAS share for my recordings folder.
[17:00:25] mengo: I have an idea, one sec spart
[17:00:58] spart: ok thanks
[17:04:32] mengo: damn it, I'm sure I heard of a script / plugin that created symlinks to recordings with more "human" names eg the show recorded
[17:04:38] mengo: I cant find it though
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[17:05:53] spart: ok, is there a switch somewhere in mythtvbackend to use the metadata forth eTV show as the filename eg. Xfactor. S10E06.15092013 etc.
[17:06:29] mengo: I thought it was here: http://nowsci.com/
[17:06:29] mengo: but I think not
[17:06:53] mengo: found it! good old duckduckgo :)
[17:07:06] mengo: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl << you could use that, I guess
[17:07:18] spart: ok thanks for looking. I can' t be the only xbmc user wanting to acheive this. I was hoping it was a common request
[17:07:40] spart: ok I will look at that. I assume I could run this a s a user job after recoding
[17:08:16] mengo: I would guess so
[17:08:30] spart: if that creates symlinks to the recordings i guess it is using metadata from tvdb or others
[17:08:39] mengo: has to be a better solution than trying to use a mythtv plugin to xbmc
[17:08:50] spart: right
[17:08:59] mengo: I think it uses metadata from the transmission
[17:09:13] mengo: but there is a metadata lookup that happens after recordings
[17:09:19] mengo: so I could be wrong
[17:09:26] spart: right. I woner if that had series and episode information
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[17:10:46] spart: which is critical for xbmc to organise the TvShows library. I have an extensive tvshow library been using xbmc for years
[17:11:24] spart: I only use mythtvbackend
[17:11:40] mengo: I have never had much success with xbmc
[17:12:00] mengo: I use the mythbackend on a server and a separate frontend
[17:12:30] spart: really I have 8TB of movies and tv shows and 10 xbmc clients
[17:13:06] mengo: pfft I'm not impressed
[17:13:15] spart: I am really only just starting to explore a livetv/Sat recording
[17:13:23] spart: after giving SKy the boot
[17:14:08] spart: I only use xbmc as a fronted client to my NAS
[17:14:13] mengo: it amazes me how much good stuff is on TV, when you take away the adverts
[17:14:26] mengo: what nas box do you have?
[17:15:10] spart: Rackmounted Dell CS23 server with 8vx2TB raid drives
[17:16:32] mengo: you run a rack at home?
[17:17:31] spart: Yep. It in my office (seperate building) Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5410 @ 2.33GHz, 8 cores 16GB ram (ridiculously cheap for what it does)
[17:17:56] mengo: I googled the specs
[17:18:15] spart: easy to fix
[17:18:37] mengo: ah, I couldnt justify a rack so I just made a home server thingy, which works well enough for me
[17:18:55] spart: I got the half rack for 50 quid of ebay
[17:19:10] mengo: ebay is good for cheap server hardware,
[17:19:46] spart: allows me to put all tech in one place. Switches UPS's Routers etc.
[17:21:02] spart: anyhow back to mythtv. Do youknow If I can run the DB from my MySQL server on teh nas rather that on the current sat card machine?
[17:22:06] mengo: don't see why not
[17:22:22] mengo: sync a copy across, update your config and try it
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[17:29:06] spart: thinking about starting againg with .26 realease. Ubuntu installed .25 from stanard repos
[17:29:44] spart: Do you kow if I can upgrade from .25 or Do I need to start with .26
[17:32:24] spart: thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I know I can come back here and at least talk to sane people :)
[17:35:28] spart: justhad a quick look at mythlink. IT seems that does not provide Series and Episode info
[17:39:23] mengo: sure, I do upgrades to my centos box
[17:39:28] mengo: they mostly work
[17:39:52] mengo: just make sure you check the release notes and check for compatible versions, ie all the usual stuff
[17:40:39] spart: what would be awesome would be a script that at the end of the recording would look up that show in tvdb etc. rename the file to showname.seriesno.episodeno.episodetitle etc. then update mysql with the new name
[17:41:41] sphery: we can't change the file name because too many limitations on file system/character encoding to handle all the stuff that users, worldwide, will see
[17:42:08] sphery: so we will keep using file names that are purely "internal" and "safe" characters (meaning we'll stick with numeric naming)
[17:42:42] spart: ah ok.
[17:42:46] sphery: you really want to use separate views made with links to ensure you never lose recordings or make them hard/impossible to access
[17:43:17] mengo: what does the metadata look up on recordings do?
[17:43:24] spart: can the series and eposide information be got from the EIT data?
[17:43:25] sphery: and, eventually, we may add capability to mythlink.pl to allow using season/episode number, but I haven't decided how I want to do it since that data isn't always there/available
[17:44:16] sphery: unfortunately, too, there's no "definitive" season/episode order, so those numbers mean something only to the provider of the numbers
[17:44:47] sphery: (i.e. Firefly was aired in a completely different order from the one intended, so you have the "real" order of episodes, then the aired order)
[17:44:54] spart: I have only ever found a couple of disrepencies between IMDB and TVDB in years
[17:45:04] sphery: any EIT provider is likely to use their own numbering (based on their airdates)
[17:45:21] sphery: and many (most?) don't provide any
[17:45:37] spart: as EIT?
[17:45:53] sphery: don't provide season/episode number in eit
[17:46:28] spart: OK thanks that what I thought. So realianceon TVDB or IMDB for SnnEnn
[17:46:31] sphery: anyway, we once allowed changing the name of recording files with mythrename.pl (which no longer exists/wouldn't work if you got an old version), but it caused a /ton/ of problems
[17:46:49] spart: I can see that possibility
[17:46:56] sphery: so, now, if you want to rename a recording file, we expect you to also move it to the "user-managed-video" section of MythTV--Video Library
[17:47:13] sphery: which, really, is a good idea if you're doing anything other than watching and deleting recordings
[17:48:05] sphery: if you keep the recordings, putting them in Video Library allows a) renaming them to useful file names that tell you what show/episode it is so that using the file is no longer dependent on your never losing your mythtv database
[17:48:17] sphery: b) organizing and sorting them however you like
[17:48:19] spart: As I only need a true client server setup. Mythtv records. Nas stores and serves. XBMC watches etc.
[17:48:51] spart: however that looks like a manual process per recording right?
[17:49:11] sphery: c) taking advantage of the much-better filtering and sorting provided in Video Library as compared to the "look at one recording group or one category" filtering in Watch Recordings
[17:49:26] sphery: you can do it using something like mythvidexport.pl
[17:49:30] sphery: er, .py
[17:49:46] spart: as a user job after recording?
[17:49:51] sphery: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvidexport.py
[17:50:13] sphery: as a user job, which can be run automatically after a recording or manually at any time
[17:50:36] sphery: (and could be run on every recording in a playlist all at once, so manually isn't necessarily difficult)
[17:50:49] spart: sorry not a programmer, what capabiloites in summary will that provide?
[17:51:02] sphery: see the wiki page--it describes it better than I could
[17:51:09] spart: OK thaks
[17:51:38] sphery: gl, and enjoy
[17:52:38] spart: just looked briefly. It looks like it could rename and moive th recording file to the nas TVShows dir using metadata from TVDB etc.
[17:53:57] spart: Is this script actively maintained etc.
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[17:54:53] spart: +sphery Also thank you for taking the time to explain how some of mythtv works.
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[17:58:35] spart: loks like R Wagner is on here also he is the author
[18:05:12] sphery: yeah, he wrote it
[18:05:16] sphery: and he maintains it
[18:05:23] sphery: and does a great job keeping up
[18:05:46] mengo: joke: spam him saying "Fix it now" once every, 5 seconds
[18:05:53] mengo: I'm sure he will appreciate it
[18:14:01] spart: OK thanks. I will not be spamming him. I need to think and reseach hard what is possible using the current tools. It may just be my ignorance of mythtv things. The mythtv add-on for xbmc is pretty cool, maybe that is where ultimately this integration should be done.
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[18:16:16] spart: mythtv web service/api seems to allow for rmote control of just about anything. I can already shedule and delete reordings in xbmc and that cleans up the mythtvdb etc.
[18:17:35] spart: looks like feature requests to the devs of the add on would be a good place to start.
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[18:45:07] lautriv: any news on my mythweb question ?
[18:53:13] mengo: I don't think so
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[18:55:11] lautriv: if anyone found or solved where mythweb fails on 0.27 using php 5.5.3 and apache 2.4 please highlight me :o) (sidenote: nothing in logs, anything but status and schedules is incomplete or a blank page)
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[19:37:42] spart: does anyone know what these log entries mean: mythbackend[15852]: C ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1259 (HandleVersion) MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 72!
[19:38:03] spart: mythbackend[15852]: W ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:5801 (connectionClosed) MainServer: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x121c790)
[19:38:24] spart: there ar a lot of them in mysysloig when MythTVbackend is running
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[19:51:27] mengo: mythsetup run ok?
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[19:54:21] spart: Not upgraded yet just looking at current install . Which is working fine. Live TV multiple recordings at same time. Multiple clients etc.
[19:54:27] spart: syslog full of the above errors!
[19:56:39] spart: OAN not used to IRC is it better to use a dedicated IRC client rather than webchat?
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[20:19:35] lautriv: spart, looks like one of your frontends is from the stoneage ;)
[20:21:52] spart: don't get it all except MythTVbackend machine are XBMC 12.2 (current stable) clients
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[20:27:52] spart: lautriv, It seems that the XBMC client (Gotham on the MythTVbackend box) when it connects and syncs TV channels, Recordings and EPG info I get the syslog messages
[20:30:06] spart: looks like it could be a bug in the PVR addon code. I will flag it over on the XBMC dev site. Many thanks for your help.
[20:42:56] trum: anybody using mythzmserver?
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[20:47:43] lautriv: never heard, something to eat ?
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[21:13:54] mengo: mythzmserver = MythZoneMinder
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[23:04:29] johanbr: Hi. I just got a MythTV backend running, connected to an HDHomeRun tuner. It appears that the backend *always* has an incoming stream from the tuner, even when there is no frontend connected and no recordings scheduled.
[23:04:40] johanbr: Is this supposed to happen? The reason I ask is that it means there's always some CPU load, and an 18 Mbit/s stream on the LAN.
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