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Sunday, September 15th, 2013, 00:16 UTC
[00:16:23] Hydroponx: wagnerrp, you still around ?
[00:16:28] wagnerrp: yes
[00:16:50] Hydroponx: any experience w/ windows myth builds ?
[00:16:55] wagnerrp: no
[00:16:57] Hydroponx: ah
[00:17:08] wagnerrp: i attempted, unsuccessfully, once
[00:17:18] Hydroponx: one of the 2 machines i've tried to run the frontend on won't play audio
[00:17:22] Hydroponx: video works fine tho
[00:17:36] wagnerrp: i used some 3rd party builds briefly, but they weren't updated frequently enough to keep up to date with my development box
[00:17:48] Hydroponx: ah
[00:18:12] Hydroponx: i'm convinced i should blame realtek audio for the problems
[00:18:13] Hydroponx: lol
[00:18:35] wagnerrp: now... i can network-boot my work laptop into the same image my frontends use, so i've got less of a use for it
[00:18:37] Hydroponx: it worked for about 3 minutes, once
[00:18:43] Hydroponx: ah
[00:18:49] Hydroponx: yea, i don't have that setup yet :)
[00:19:16] Hydroponx: myth itself is running great though
[00:19:41] Hydroponx: considering ordering an additional 2TB disk, bluray drive, and a new powersupply tho
[00:20:16] Hydroponx: that'd give 1 drive, 1 core, and 2GB Ram per tuner
[00:21:21] Hydroponx: at least, until i upgrade my gaming machine next year :)
[00:23:26] biffhero: I removed / re-added my HDHR Prime dual tuner, and re-scanned for channels. Now I have a whole bunch of duplicate channels. Is there a way to export my channel list and put it in pastebin? I think that would be smarter than trying to explain everything here.
[00:23:58] wagnerrp: there is no HDHR Prime dual tuner, nor should you be scanning channels on a prime
[00:24:19] biffhero: Oh, my bad, double checking model number.
[00:24:38] wagnerrp: the standard HDHR is a dual tuner
[00:24:45] biffhero: You are right, I am wrong. It is http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/
[00:24:50] biffhero: The standard HDHR
[00:30:43] biffhero: I think that I will schedule a short recording on every channel, and then see which ones work and which ones don't. Does that make sense?
[00:30:52] wagnerrp: sounds good
[00:32:05] Hydroponx: only issue i have now is streaming live through myth4windows
[00:32:53] Hydroponx: =]
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[00:43:44] biffhero: I think I'll try to use the web services to schedule all of those recordings. I wonder if it's possible.
[00:44:05] wagnerrp: reschedule why?
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[01:40:27] f12myth: anyone experience this issue? xbmc front end pvr add on for mythtv sees my mythtv backend server and loads channels and programs but when i try to watch a live tv channel it just hangs.
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[01:52:04] wagnerrp: you might have a better chance if you stick around for more than five minutes after asking
[01:57:37] Hydroponx: rofl
[01:57:40] Hydroponx: touche
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[02:09:58] wagnerrp: f12myth: do you have the same issue if you use the mythtv frontend?
[02:10:27] wagnerrp: this is really a mythtv help channel, not an xbmc help channel, so we can only help you diagnose issues on the mythtv side of things
[02:10:36] f12myth: yes
[02:10:59] wagnerrp: could you post logs from your backend when livetv fails?
[02:11:27] f12myth: is there a way to isolate the log to that activity?
[02:12:00] wagnerrp: if you use the recommended --logpath argument when running mythbackend, it will create a new log file each time you restart mythbackend
[02:12:12] wagnerrp: just restart the backend, try livetv, and grab that new log file
[02:15:50] f12myth: trying it now. i do have the same problem using myth front end so i assumed the problem was on my backend server. is there a terminal command to stop/start backend
[02:16:09] wagnerrp: killall mythbackend; mythbackend
[02:16:45] wagnerrp: run manually with no flags, the backend logs only to the local terminal
[02:25:00] wagnerrp: also, when i say "post", i mean to something like pastebin
[02:26:03] f12myth: sorry. so i'm seeing the log written in the terminal instead of the log file and i did see when my client tried to connect but it went too fast. how do write this to the log file again?
[02:26:18] wagnerrp: ">"
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[02:39:53] f12myth: its on pastebin at mythlog2013-09–14. i do see a few errors and i really appreciate your help.
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[02:43:13] wagnerrp: could you actually post the link?
[02:43:32] f12myth: http://pastebin.com/Hi6b3R9f
[02:44:32] wagnerrp: ERROR: LocalFilePath unable to find local path for '1201_20130914223223.mpg', found 'Downloads/1201_20130914223223.mpg' instead.
[02:44:35] wagnerrp: that's kind of funky
[02:44:43] Hydroponx: the missing table is too
[02:45:06] wagnerrp: nah, that's just the UPNP server complaining about a table that has not yet been created
[02:45:12] Hydroponx: oh
[02:45:22] Hydroponx: i just don't see that in my install i guess :)
[02:45:37] wagnerrp: you've probably opened the video library in the frontend at least once
[02:46:31] wagnerrp: oof, mythtv 0.24
[02:46:42] wagnerrp: that's very old
[02:47:30] f12myth: i used mythdora
[02:47:51] wagnerrp: also, i'd like to see the livetv logs from using mythfrontend, not xbnc
[02:48:39] wagnerrp: that first error i listed makes me want to think it's a configuration issue
[02:48:49] wagnerrp: something screwy with the recording paths you've defined
[02:49:06] wagnerrp: but first, upgrade
[02:56:19] f12myth: ok. let me try a few things and come back tomorrow. Thank you for your help so far.
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[03:03:01] wagnerrp: wow... everything he's using is old
[03:04:01] Hydroponx: yea
[03:04:07] Hydroponx: it looked that way
[03:14:11] wagnerrp: why does apple make it so hard to add content to an iphone
[03:14:28] Hydroponx: it's really easy to though. ...
[03:14:35] Hydroponx: just buy it from the appstore :)
[03:15:02] wagnerrp: i can't do it without installing itunes, and then i still can't just add music. i have to import it into itunes, mark it for syncing, and then sync it
[03:15:18] wagnerrp: except itunes sucks, and just randomly starts playing something as soon as it starts importing
[03:15:35] Hydroponx: awesome
[03:15:37] wagnerrp: but of course it's still importing, so i have no control over the UI to make it stop playing
[03:16:13] Hydroponx: wow
[03:16:25] DonkeyHotei: gtkpod
[03:17:11] wagnerrp: it does not support iphones
[03:17:46] DonkeyHotei: it did last i checked
[03:18:04] wagnerrp: ipod classic, nano, shuffle, photo, and mini
[03:18:29] DonkeyHotei: i had it working with an ipod touch 3g
[03:18:38] Hydroponx: gf is a big fan of i*
[03:18:51] wagnerrp: preliminary support for jailbroken iphones and ipod touches
[03:19:03] DonkeyHotei: no jailbreak, just worked
[03:19:04] wagnerrp: i'm not going to reflash a work phone
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[03:56:44] skd5aner: iphone as a work phone huh?
[03:59:21] wagnerrp: yeah
[04:00:05] wagnerrp: the cause of my occasional top post on the mailing list
[04:14:26] ** skd5aner hates the iPhone **
[04:15:02] wagnerrp: i don't mind it so much as a device
[04:15:18] skd5aner: I like the quality of the hardware, that's about it
[04:15:28] wagnerrp: i just hate the fact that there's the apple way of doing things, and if you're not following the apple way in all aspects, it's like pissing in the wind
[04:16:01] skd5aner: heh – thank you, that's a great way to summarize my feelings about it
[04:18:09] wagnerrp: i'm going through my music library, and there's a "Music_WAV2.upk_00000679.ogg"
[04:18:24] wagnerrp: i can only assume i unpacked it out of some game archive at some point, but i have no idea where it's from
[04:19:17] skd5aner: so, play it :)
[04:19:28] wagnerrp: i have. it's not ringing any bells
[04:19:28] skd5aner: that /might/ give you a clue
[04:19:40] skd5aner: is it ringing chimes instead?
[04:20:14] wagnerrp: i'm pretty sure i hear a triangle. that's pretty close to a chime
[04:20:49] wagnerrp: it's a upk, so that means unreal
[04:20:53] wagnerrp: but there's just so many of those...
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[04:37:35] wagnerrp: looks like something i pulled out of Borderlands
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[10:17:20] GlemSom: upnp does not seem to work on my mythtv setup... What should I specify on the mythbackend to debug this further ?
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[10:38:44] GlemSom: OR rather... How can I make upnp work ?
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[10:53:59] GlemSom: What needs to be done, to be able to see my recordings via upnp ?
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[10:56:16] lautriv: GlemSom, iirr there is a check-button in the backend setup which is by default on.
[10:57:01] GlemSom: lautriv, yeah, it's on atm... But, VLC on my PC (and any other upnp clients for Android I could find) does not find it...
[10:58:07] lautriv: GlemSom, does avahi run on the backend ?
[10:59:53] lautriv: i wonder if btrfs is somewhat useable on recent kernels/userland and may be an alternative for XFS if used for myth ?
[11:01:19] GlemSom: lautriv, no, avahi does currently not run
[11:03:07] lautriv: GlemSom, i won't swear on that part but i think it is a prerequisite for upnp.
[11:04:06] GlemSom: Well, I just installed avahi, and it's currently running... same thing though... The only upnp device Ic an find is my router's upnp thingy.... :(
[11:04:34] lautriv: GlemSom, restarted backend after install ?
[11:04:41] GlemSom: Yes
[11:05:07] lautriv: no idea then. works here ootb, even i don't need it.
[11:05:30] GlemSom: http://pastebin.com/2SUSuAQk <- seem my backend finds my router's upnp thingy ?
[11:06:26] GlemSom: They are in the same switch... but... could my router be blocking it somehow still ?
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[11:07:41] lautriv: appears to work, maybe a client-issue.
[11:09:26] GlemSom: Well, I've disabled my router's upnp... But. Still no clients are able to find my mythbackend upnp server :(
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[11:21:32] GlemSom: mythbackend doesn't even broadcast on 239.255.255.250... which is should iirc... Can it be, that upnp is simply broken since 0.26.1 ?
[11:24:18] lautriv: i do 0.26.x , close to upgrade to 0.27 but since it still works i guess it isn't broken by design but setup.
[11:26:00] GlemSom: Just to test my network, I installed ushare – and it seems ushare is able to broadcast correctly... So... just MythTV isn't working :(
[11:30:27] lautriv: you may double-check your backends setup.
[11:35:52] GlemSom: upnp set to show Recordings (tried videos – no difference). all IP's are external (i.e. not 127)... I can't quite see what I'm missing here... ?
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[14:54:38] trumee_: I have upgraded myth-0.24 to myth-0.26 on my gentoo box. Unfortunately LiveTv isnt working but i am unable to debug it since /var/log/mythtv is empty. Why are the log files for mythbackend not being written?
[14:55:52] trumee_: ps -ef |grep mythbackend returns, /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --pidfile /var/run/mythbackend.pid --user mythtv --verbose general --logpath /var/log/mythtv/
[14:56:36] trumee_: The logpath was specified correctly. Do i need to do something more to get a log file?
[15:07:34] \PiLgRiM\: did you ensure the logpath /var/log/mythtv is writeable by the user mythtv?
[15:09:30] trumee_: \PiLgRiM\, ok i setu syslog as shown here and now i get the files, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Simple_syslog-ng_Configuration
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[22:16:29] smoothifier: hi :) i seem to be missing artwork in the Recordings screen of the FE. v
[22:16:56] smoothifier: Video artwork works fine. The artwork is there in the storage directories
[22:17:20] smoothifier: i'm running 0.27 RC1
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[22:17:50] smoothifier: I have tried the mythbuntu and the blue abstract themes. i had to manually install them with git pulls
[22:18:48] smoothifier: the artwork was downloaded on the 13th so I know that that part is working.
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[23:21:44] biffhero: Oh, this is fun. VDPAU high stutters on 1080i, but playback is fine on VDPAU normal.
[23:22:45] Hydroponx: any experience w/ bdxl ?
[23:23:06] biffhero: no, what is it.
[23:23:20] [R]: biffhero: and?
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[23:24:44] Hydroponx: bdxl is 100 -128GB Blu-Ray disk
[23:25:17] biffhero: Oh, my.
[23:25:22] Hydroponx: yea
[23:25:37] biffhero: That's going to be interesting.
[23:26:07] biffhero: R: I don't know. I don't have time to work on it right now, we have a bunch of ball games to burn through.
[23:26:38] biffhero: However, I saw that my recording of a 720p channel played back fine, while playing back a 1080i recording did not.
[23:26:40] Hydroponx: looking at a blu-ray drive for the myth box, just not sure if it's worthwhile to get it or save the $20 and put it towards something else
[23:27:13] biffhero: I spent about an hour trying to get it to work, then I tried the normal playback on a whim. It played back fine.
[23:27:18] [R]: biffhero: the wiki explains it all
[23:27:23] [R]: thers nothign to "try to get working"
[23:27:28] biffhero: Hydroponx: I'd get it. I got one a while back.
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[23:28:20] biffhero: [R]: That's what I thought. I was looking at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU a bunch. Is it possible my system doesn't have the horsepower to use the V-High setting?
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[23:28:42] [R]: biffhero: it has nothign to do with your system
[23:28:50] [R]: the page explains it all
[23:29:21] biffhero: OK. I'll read it again.
[23:29:48] biffhero: When I saw this line: VDPAU High Quality: use Temporal Spatial 2X (Advanced 2X) for all content. To be used with nvidia cards >= 8600GT, >= 9500GT, GT120 or >= GT220
[23:29:48] biffhero: I thought, "You know, maybe I need to not pick this one if my card isn't super awesome."
[23:30:14] [R]: well there you go
[23:30:16] [R]: problem solved
[23:30:33] biffhero: I always thought that myth would not let me choose the High Quality choice if I didn't have the right card. I need to figure out my card. Little Acer Revo Box.
[23:31:00] [R]: myth doesnt care what your hardware is
[23:31:02] biffhero: Show's what I know.
[23:31:03] biffhero: Yeah.
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[23:50:03] biffhero: [R]: I checked http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_ION , and it looks like I have a 9400M. The Myth web page says that I should be able to do 1080i with Advanced 1x, so I'll try that later. Thanks!
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[23:59:12] darkdrgn2k: hi
[23:59:22] darkdrgn2k: anyone know if mythtv works well on centos?

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