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Tuesday, September 3rd, 2013, 00:02 UTC
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[00:13:45] Hydr0p0nX: ahh
[00:13:53] Hydr0p0nX: i'll be testing it on windows
[00:13:55] Hydr0p0nX: with charter
[00:14:16] Hydr0p0nX: once i confirm the card is good under a "supported" os i'll be re-loading myth
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[00:20:22] lucidium: I'm running mythtv 0.26, and I keep encountering the bug detailed at http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10987 . It appears that it was fixed in that version, am I reading the bug report wrong?
[00:21:30] DonkeyHotei: i'm using xbmc as a frontend, and it makes a distinction between "tv" channels and "radio" channels. how do i segregate them in the lineup?
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[02:02:24] Blue11: !paste
[02:04:48] Blue11: i am getting some kind of initialistation error on the mythbackend telling me a resource is temporarily unavailable — and livetv won't work — this is the output. http://paste.debian.net/34043/
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[02:14:43] bill6502: Blue11: Lines 55 & 57. I've seen that when another instance of mythbackend is running. Use whatever your distribution has to stop it normally, then verify that it's stopped (e.g. ps ax|grep mythbackend and expect nothing.)
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[02:19:36] Blue11: bill6502: okay will try that.
[02:21:08] DonkeyHotei: i'm using xbmc as a frontend, and it makes a distinction between "tv" channels and "radio" channels. how do i segregate them in the lineup?
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[02:22:45] Blue11: bill6502: back in the saddle again – many thanks
[02:23:04] bill6502: np
[02:25:58] DonkeyHotei: the "scan channels" thing in mythtv-setup seems to make a distinction between tv services and radio services, but it doesn't work with a ceton card
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[14:43:08] raven: hi
[14:44:13] raven: trying to use a terratec cinergy+ (0ccd:00d7) device with mythtv but only get bad datablocks. possible that the device is in dab+ mode or something else?
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[15:17:24] raven_: trying to use a terratec cinergy+ (0ccd:00d7) device with mythtv but only get bad datablocks. possible that the device is in dab+ mode or something else?
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[16:33:06] raven_: trying to use a terratec cinergy+ (0ccd:00d7) device with mythtv but only get bad datablocks. possible that the device is in dab+ mode or something else?
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[18:51:58] justinh_: raven_: try it outside of mythtv first. Always :-) There are plenty of different ways to test digital tuner hardware without mythtv
[18:52:43] justinh_: femon can be handy – it can tell you how good your signal is.. look for very low UNC numbers & low FEC numbers
[18:53:14] justinh_: and be aware that sometimes the signal strength level may be reported the opposite way to how you might assume
[18:54:01] raven_: justinh_, it works with kaffeine
[18:54:06] raven_: on another machine
[18:59:44] justinh_: on another machine? Is this a card or USB thing?
[18:59:56] raven_: usb device
[19:00:07] justinh_: same kernel version between the machines?
[19:00:25] raven_: yes
[19:01:37] justinh_: same module options & firmware etc?
[19:03:20] raven_: yes
[19:03:40] justinh_: so what do the numbers femon reports look like?
[19:04:02] justinh_: and where are you finding out about these 'bad datablocks' ?
[19:04:07] raven_: this is not a rf problem
[19:04:50] raven_: mythtv counts up bad blocks always the same way so i simply think itdoes not receive dvb-t packages but something else
[19:05:12] justinh_: is it set to the right type of device in mythtv-setup?
[19:05:19] raven_: yes
[19:05:26] justinh_: as in DVB-T
[19:05:33] raven_: btw its a combined dvbt and dab+ device
[19:05:55] justinh_: would the DAB+ part even work in linux? Suspect not
[19:06:33] raven_: i never was able to try because which tool plays dab+?? but thats the thing because of that i thought its in dab+ mode
[19:07:22] justinh_: maybe one to ask in #linuxtv
[19:07:43] justinh_: maybe there's something about the driver that mythtv doesn't like
[19:08:46] justinh_: though AFAIK mythtv is pretty tight on the linuxtv API so the tuning code should be very similar to kaffeine in terms of what it's doing. In theory
[19:09:02] raven_: hm ok
[19:09:04] raven_: ill try
[19:10:29] justinh_: oh, Kaffeine works with DAB+ devices apparently
[19:11:09] justinh_: so maybe how it uses ioctls or whatever is vastly different & mythtv doesn't know how to address it properly yet
[19:11:41] raven_: kaffeine + dab+??
[19:11:46] raven_: let me see
[19:13:36] justinh_: whoops! http://kaffeine.kde.org/
[19:14:26] justinh_: maybe not – where I read that about DAB+ & Kaffeine was on a forum
[19:16:49] justinh_: heh apparently some of these USB TV dongles can be used for SDR
[19:18:33] justinh_: eew, that's how some of the USB DAB receivers work.. they output the I & Q signals over USB
[19:18:34] raven_: yes i know
[19:18:43] justinh_: then the demodulation is done purely in software
[19:18:45] raven_: but never was able to test that too
[19:19:03] justinh_: yeah I can see where your thinking about it being in the wrong mode is coming from now
[19:19:23] justinh_: maybe somebody in linuxtv could tell you how to check, or hwo to change it
[19:19:42] justinh_: or maybe you could look in the kernel module source code
[19:26:29] justinh_: back to mythtv.. if you open femon with mythbackend running, it should say what the status of the dvb frontend is
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[20:02:41] raven_: justinh_, i have news about this riddiculus dvb-t drive
[20:03:33] raven_: on all 3 machines i only get one mux so it seems the tuner is not being controlled any more and frozen on one frequency...
[20:03:39] raven_: (??!??!??!?!?!??!??!!!)
[20:04:01] raven_: is this possible or do i need alcohol to understand this?
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[21:09:24] raven: justinh_, ?
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[21:09:58] justinh_: raven: even in kaffeine?
[21:10:12] raven: yes on different machines
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[21:11:38] justinh_: ahh well.. maybe it needs an internal amplifier enabled.. even if you're not using the crappy stick aerial they supply
[21:12:19] raven: how to check/solve?
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[21:18:21] justinh_: read the linuxtv.org wiki page about the device?
[21:18:41] raven: no hint about that
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[21:44:48] kamamam: im having a little trouble getting my vista mce remote working properly
[21:45:10] kamamam: seems to work as a keyboard. I tried the lirc /dev/input/event method and irw shows remote control commands now
[21:45:21] kamamam: but i have no idea how to get those mapped INTO mythtv
[21:45:34] kamamam: just need a little help to bridge this last gap
[21:46:03] croccydile: Man your lucky when I tried mine it was totally dead
[21:47:30] kamamam: i totally dont feel lucky
[21:47:48] kamamam: i either get a couiple of dpad directions and ok working, or the proper codes not doing anything at all
[21:47:52] croccydile: I wound up having to get an iguanaworks IR thingy
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[21:48:17] kamamam: yea, im leaning toward just buying a mythtv ready remote control and calling it a day
[21:48:32] kamamam: i spent like 2 hours getting this thing set up with my hd homerun prime
[21:48:35] kamamam: im done for the day
[21:49:39] croccydile: Well the mce receiver afaik changed in how lirc handled it and I couldnt figure out how toi make it work at all...
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[22:05:12] kamamam: well screw it
[22:05:24] kamamam: my wife is gonna just have to live with a keyboard on the desk
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[22:11:54] croccydile: kamamam: There was some idiocy with x.org thinking the remote was a keyboard and tying it up or something
[22:12:37] DonkeyHotei: i'm using xbmc as a frontend, and it makes a distinction between "tv" channels and "radio" channels. how do i segregate them in the lineup?
[22:12:37] DonkeyHotei: the "scan channels" thing in mythtv-setup seems to make a distinction between tv services and radio services, but it doesn't work with a ceton card
[22:13:58] kamamam: croccydile i wonder then, if after the lirc reconfig manually, the remote will start working after a reboot
[22:18:46] croccydile: I have to replug my iguanaIR to make it work, I dont know why
[22:19:01] croccydile: There is no kernel module loaded (it doesnt need one with lirc) so go figure
[22:19:09] croccydile: However since that machine is always on its like BFD
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