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Wednesday, August 21st, 2013, 00:02 UTC

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skd5aner:

Anyone around that's willing to help me figure out why a custom recording rule records the same show on multiple sources at the same time?

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skd5aner:

Also, can't seem to edit any of the filters on an existing custom rule via mythweb in 0.26-fixes

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Kwisher:

i can't get my secondary backend to connect to my master

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wahrhaft:

i'm having a bit of trouble with a new mythtv install... i can record and play programs just fine, but when i go to live tv, it tries to start on a non-existent channel

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wahrhaft:

aka one that the channel scan falsely detected and i hid from the channel list

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wahrhaft:

it never gets a lock on it, so it freezes for a while and kicks me out without giving me an opportunity to change the channel

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wahrhaft:

any idea how i can manually change the start channel? i thought the "starting channel" option in mythtv-setup would help, but it didn't have any effect

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tgm4883:

wahrhaft, it is in fact the starting channel setting

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tgm4883:

wahrhaft, did you set that for all of your tuners?

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wahrhaft:

tgm4883, I set both tuners to 10–1 and 34–1, restarted the backend and frontend both times... in both cases the livetv tried to tune to 82–62351

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wahrhaft:

i'm not sure off the top of my head what the real channel is for each of those, but i know that they are on 2 different real channels

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jm|laptop:

wahrhaft: I have had luck before by tapping in a known good channel as soon as Live TV starts

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jm|laptop:

and it skips to that channel before it fails to tune the spurious one

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jm|laptop:

but prevention is the best cure – and you should probably set a valid channel for every tuner in mythtv-setup

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wahrhaft:

jm|laptop, i can key a channel in quickly enough, but it doesn't seem to switch fast enough before tuning the bad one

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wahrhaft:

and i do have a valid channel for each tuner set up in mythtv-setup

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wahrhaft:

well... deleting instead of hiding the extra channels seemed to solve the problem

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DonkeyHotei:

so, is there any good compare/contrast info among the 3 known cablecard solutions?

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wagnerrp_:

USB, ethernet, or pci-e... the interface determines the blend

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DonkeyHotei:

someone said the ethernet one has 3 tuners and the pcie one has 4. what about the usb one? and does that one have in-kernel drivers?

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DonkeyHotei:

all three seem to be going for about the same price as each other on ebay

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Korny:

Not sure about the other cards, but the some of the HD Homerun Prime developers are Mythtv users

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DonkeyHotei:

Korny: i think that's how mythtv support for all 3 happened

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DonkeyHotei:

at least, i assume that

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wagnerrp_:

the Hauppauge USB tuner and the SiliconDust HDHomeRun are the same physical device

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wagnerrp_:

all three of them are technically ethernet connected

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croccydile:

doesnt your cable company have to be "nice" too for that to work

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wagnerrp_:

however the USB and PCIe devices create an internal network bridge that you access it through

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wagnerrp_:

and yes, it only works for channels marked as "copy freely"

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croccydile:

Which for mine from what ive heard is "YEAH RIGHT"

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wagnerrp_:

what is yours?

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Korny:

What provider are you?

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Korny:

Comcast is pretty much all copy free except for premiums

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croccydile:

bright house

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wagnerrp_:

don't know about them

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croccydile:

Today I fought and lost against the mscusb IR transciever

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DonkeyHotei:

Korny: what about non-premium addressable channels?

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Korny:

They all work at this point, other then Bravo for whatever reason

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DonkeyHotei:

brighthouse is part of time warner, i think

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Korny:

However the comcast in Memphis was different then the comcast here in Minnesota

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Korny:

Comcast Memphis locked down a lot more channels

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Korny:

Crap like TruTV and Speed lol

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Korny:

Which reminds me do I just need to reload my schedules direct source to get speed to change to fox 1?

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wagnerrp_:

if you're using the default parameters, it should happen automatically next time mythfilldatabase runs

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DonkeyHotei:

trutv isn't even part of "digital starter" on comcast

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wagnerrp_:

sphery: didn't this get fixed?

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wagnerrp_:

http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /352059.html

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DonkeyHotei:

[Tue 2013-08–20 07:28:56 PM PDT] <<?>wagnerrp_> all three of them are technically ethernet connected <---- they all have ethernet inside?

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DonkeyHotei:

i know the centon one doesn't; you'd see it in the photos if it did

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wagnerrp_:

DonkeyHotei: in order to ensure the user cannot defeat their content protection measures, all three are implemented as an embedded computer access over the network

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wagnerrp_:

the HDHR is obviously on the network

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wagnerrp_:

but the HVR-2650 and InfiniTV both have an internal network bridge

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DonkeyHotei:

but you said it's physically identical inside

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wagnerrp_:

yes?

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DonkeyHotei:

usb is not identical to no usb

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wagnerrp_:

huh?

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DonkeyHotei:

does the hauppauge one load the cdc-ether driver, or what?

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wagnerrp_:

the HVR-2650 appears as a USB-attached ethernet card

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wagnerrp_:

the InfiniTV appears as a PCIe ethernet card

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DonkeyHotei:

i know the pcie one has its own out-of-tree drivers

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wagnerrp_:

even ethernet cards need drivers

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wagnerrp_:

although the HVR-2650 uses a generic profile with support built into the kernel

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DonkeyHotei:

must be cdc-ether

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wagnerrp_:

could be, i don't know the specific name off hand

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DonkeyHotei:

the hdhr has 3 tuners, the infinitv has 4, and how many does the hvr-2650 have?

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wagnerrp_:

three, with one disabled

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wagnerrp_:

or perhaps just not soldered on

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wagnerrp_:

the HVR-2650 and HDHomeRun Prime are physically the same device, but configured slightly differently

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DonkeyHotei:

so in effect 2?

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wagnerrp_:

two functional

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DonkeyHotei:

they both need external power?

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DonkeyHotei:

the infinitv doesn't

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wagnerrp_:

typical consequences of an external device

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DonkeyHotei:

yeah, already a lot of boxes near the tv

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Korny:

Why put it near the tv?

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wagnerrp_:

well you only get 16' with USB

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Korny:

it can be put ANYWHERE on the network(if we are talking the HD HOME Prime)

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DonkeyHotei:

are any of the three capable of doing anything with vod?

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wagnerrp_:

but the Prime could be anywhere with a network connection

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wagnerrp_:

nope

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wagnerrp_:

VOD is not an option with MythTV

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wagnerrp_:

using any combination of hardware

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DonkeyHotei:

Korny: when internet is cable too, the modem and the router are near the tv

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wagnerrp_:

only because you chose to put it there

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Korny:

You only have 1 cable outlet?

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DonkeyHotei:

yes

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wagnerrp_:

install more

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DonkeyHotei:

wagnerrp_: i meant can they do anything with it outside of mythtv?

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Korny:

DonkeyHotei, cable cards are only 1 way

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wagnerrp_:

no. VOD requires a form of 2-way communication those devices do not support

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Korny:

so they will NEVER be able to do VOD

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Korny:

whoo beat wagnerrp_ !

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wagnerrp_:

blame lousy hotel internet

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Korny:

Excuses

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DonkeyHotei:

"those devices" meaning the hdhr, hvr, and infinitv, right?

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Korny:

Anything with a cablecard

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wagnerrp_:

any cablecard device

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DonkeyHotei:

the STB is a cablecard device

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wagnerrp_:

that includes things like tivo, or TVs with integrated cablecard slots

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wagnerrp_:

the STB has a cablecard, but is more than a simple cablecard device

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Korny:

wagnerrp_, the new TIVO's are advertising comcast VOD now

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DonkeyHotei:

it's the same cablecard

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wagnerrp_:

it has additional comms gear not included in the cablecard spec

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DonkeyHotei:

wagnerrp_: according to the wikipedia article linked last night, that IS in the cablecard spec

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wagnerrp_:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tru2way

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DonkeyHotei:

[Mon 2013-08–19 11:01:34 PM PDT] <sphery> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CableCARD#Physical_CableCARDs seems to imply VOD is usable with cablecard

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DonkeyHotei:

[Mon 2013-08–19 11:01:42 PM PDT] <sphery> (last para in that section)

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wagnerrp_:

tru2way is an expansion on top of cablecard

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wagnerrp_:

simple cablecard support is not sufficient

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DonkeyHotei:

the article you just linked pretty much says tru2way is already dead in the water

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wagnerrp_:

tru2way was basically an attempt to standardize their internal mechanisms in a way that could be implemented by 3rd party hardware

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wagnerrp_:

but realistically, they have a vested interest in keeping users using their own boxes, rather than 3rd party devices

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wagnerrp_:

it's the same reason why it took so long for cablecard devices to show up

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wagnerrp_:

basically, it took an ultimatum from the FCC before they lightened up on the restrictions

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croccydile:

If brighthouse ever got the waiver to encrypt basic I would be screwed

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Korny:

Anyone work with cat 6a much?

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DonkeyHotei:

omfg: http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/18/ceton-ship . . . -pcie-tuner/

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DonkeyHotei:

http://cetoncorp.com/products/infinitv-6-pcie/

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sphery:

wagnerrp: yeah, now mythjobqueue only has a blocking connection when it's actually processing jobs, but will allow backend shutdown when jobs are complete

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dls4523:

hello

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dls4523:

i am wondering if someone can help with a question about trying to "Watch TV" while currently recording with only one tuner

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dls4523:

Mythbuntu 12.04. Mythtv .26

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tgm4883:

dls4523, what is your question

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dls4523:

when a program is recording, and i would like to watch live while recording, shouldnt i be able to just select "Watch TV" to see the source that is currently recording?

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dls4523:

when i select "Watch TV" i only get a "All Tuners Are busy" dialog

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dls4523:

the only way i am able to watch what is currently recording is to go into the media library

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dls4523:

and select the program from WAtch Recordings

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dls4523:

single tuner by the way, hvr-1600

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dls4523:

using the svideo input from a Dish network receiver

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mengo2nd:

hmm I'm not sure you can watch that recording other than, as you say go to the media library, however although its a single tuner you maybe able to watch another channel. I don't quite understand it but 1 tv tuner does not mean you can only watch / record one channel

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tgm4883:

dls4523, perhaps, but that would require a large reworking of the live tv code base I think. There was a big discussion about it awhile back/every year or so and I think the general consensus is that if anyone wants to step up and fix it they are welcome to try

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dls4523:

i did see some kind of a patch from 6 or 7 years ago that apparently could be implemented, that would make a menu popup after pressing watch tv, that would give you a selection of all items currently be recorded on all tuners, and allow you to select which you wanted to watch from a list

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dls4523:

which would be perfect

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dls4523:

here it is: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2930

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dls4523:

surprised something like this hasnt been implemented

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mengo2nd:

this sounds as if it is

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mengo2nd:

http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2930#comment:16

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mengo2nd:

but obviously not

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dls4523:

yeah i noticed that too. also a thread on mythtvtalk saying that it would be a feature in .21 lol

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svalcken:

hello, can anybody tell me, what to do to setup a buildbot and integrating in waterwall from mythtv?

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mengoshmink:

I don't even understand the question so I'm definately remaining quiet

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mengoshmink:

except for that last comment

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mengoshmink:

and that one

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svalcken:

you meen me, i think.

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svalcken:

the question are, the setup for a buildbot and the secound question the administrative task for the integration into buildbot network from mythtv

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mengoshmink:

sorry, I cant help

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svalcken:

mengoshmink: This is i mean: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Continuous_Integration_Tests

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mengoshmink:

sounds like you need a developer

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svalcken:

that's right.

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Kwisher:

i can't get my secondary backend to connect to my master

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sphery:

mengoshmink: what buildbot?

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mengoshmink:

all of it

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mengoshmink:

sounds wayyy beyond the scope of what I think I use mythtv for

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mengoshmink:

I am a humble user :)

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sphery:

I mean a buildbot for what platform?

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mengoshmink:

svalcken had the questions, not me

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sphery:

ah, sorry

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sphery:

svalcken: what buildbot?

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mengoshmink:

no probs :)

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sphery:

got the names mixed up when I was reading :)

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mengoshmink:

sorry

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