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Tuesday, August 13th, 2013, 00:11 UTC
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[01:46:08] tom__: Hi all
[01:46:36] tom__: Moving to a new house shortly and was considering switching from TimeWarner cabl eto a satalite provider
[01:47:14] tom__: Looking to understand if there is any advantage to Dish network vs. DirecTV?
[01:47:38] tom__: Is there anyway to record either with anything other than a HDPVR?
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[01:53:33] jpabq: tom__: If you are going to use an HD-PVR, then I would recommend Directv. With Directv it is possible to control the STB using a USB cable to change channels. With DISH you have to use an IR blaster. Also, if you want dolby digital (surround) to work well without audio/video sync issues, you are better off with Directv. If you don't care about dolby digital surround, then you can just use the analog RCA audio from the DISH STB.
[01:54:22] Korny: hmmmm I'd stay with cable personally :
[01:54:26] tom__: jpabq – thanks
[01:54:36] Korny: You don't have to rent multiple boxes
[01:54:49] tom__: Korny, that's kind of why I asked
[01:55:03] tom__: I have 1 hdpvf and 2 clearQAM cards
[01:55:37] Korny: hmmm with cable you should get a HD homerun prime and be done with it :)
[01:55:40] jpabq: From a STB, the HD-PVR is the only choice. Since you are on TimeWarner, you can forget cable-card, so something like the HD-PVR is going to be required.
[01:55:54] Korny: timewarner doesn't do cable cards?
[01:56:00] tom__: I also have an unused Ceton card – my cable provider fkags everything...
[01:56:07] Korny: ahhhh
[01:56:14] jpabq: They do, but they lock them down so hard, that they can't be used under linux.
[01:56:14] Korny: Comcast has been pretty good about that
[01:56:42] jpabq: Personally, I have a couple of HDhomeruns I use for OTA, plus a couple of HD-PVRs I use with Directv.
[01:56:43] Korny: Then again if comcast locks me down, they will loose my cable subscription
[01:57:41] tom__: Yeah, maybe I'll use my clearQAM cards for OTA, (they are also ATSC tuners) and use the HDPVR for the sat box.
[01:58:05] tom__: Guess that is pretyt much like what I do now since the onlly clearQAM on my cable is pretty much OTA channels
[01:58:41] jpabq: A law recently passed allowing cable companies to scramble even local channels. I wonder how long TimeWarner will keep those in the clear?
[01:59:07] tom__: ugh – really? WTF, seems like the law should be going the other way
[01:59:29] tom__: Why does the law create this lock in crap?
[01:59:35] jpabq: Agreed. The cable companies spend a LOT of money lobbying.
[01:59:39] Korny: I personally think its crappy that OTA companies can charge cable companies
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[02:00:00] tom__: Korny – yeah, that is kind of crazy too
[02:00:12] Korny: If I were a cable company I'd just pull a dish network and put a OTA tuner in the reciever
[02:00:53] tom__: Does DVB-S work for DirecTV or Dish?
[02:01:06] jpabq: Not legally
[02:01:28] tom__: Oh – oops
[02:01:40] tom__: Sorry – didn't know
[02:01:52] jpabq: Hey, I wish there was a legal way to do that.
[02:02:03] Korny: it hasn't worked in a long long time for it legally or illegally
[02:02:20] jpabq: I am quite willing to pay Directv, I just want the content.
[02:03:03] tom__: Right – guess they just want th extra equipment rental fees...
[02:04:13] jpabq: It is not just that — HBO won't let them distribute the content in any way that makes it easy to pirate (re-distribute). Of course the pirates have their ways, so this only hurts us honest folks.
[02:04:29] tom__: So – cable blocks CableCard and can scramble all QAM channels, Sat doesn't work with DVB-S – so basically there is no way to do anything but buy a bunch of HD-PVRs and rent set boxes...
[02:04:47] jpabq: Or move to a city with Comcast.
[02:04:58] jpabq: Or give up on any non OTA content.
[02:05:06] tom__: Yeah – I wish they ere here.
[02:05:39] tom__: What about fios? Is that just like cable?
[02:05:40] jpabq: sphery is a big proponent of only having OTA, which he then supplements with Netflix and hulu.
[02:05:44] jpabq: yes
[02:06:11] tom__: Wonder if they support cable card?
[02:06:27] jpabq: I don't know, but I don't think so.
[02:06:57] tom__: OK, thanks for the help guys
[02:07:12] jpabq: you're welcome.
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[05:56:18] lautriv: hey there ;) anyone ever tried tu put some mythfrontend on a PS3 ?
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[13:00:49] jarle: xris: in the output from nuvexport I see that it seems to end before it is supposed to: "processed: 53833 of 89860 frames at 98.96 fps (59.91%, eta: 6m 4s)" however the result seem to be OK and no errors? Is this the way it is supposed to report the progress?
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[13:16:15] lux_3: hi
[13:17:06] lux_3: i have issues with mythfronetend. after a few seconds/minutes it stops playing and repeats 2 seconds continuously until i press a key. how can i prevent this?
[13:17:53] lux_3: this is the mythfrontend log when this happens: http://paste2.org/sdKGIHZd
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[13:28:45] lux_3: it happened again and i only got this:
[13:28:51] lux_3: greedyhdeint: size changed from 0 x 0 -> 720 x 576
[13:28:52] lux_3: 2013-08–13 15:26:53.820093 I ScreenSaverX11Private: DPMS Deactivated 1
[13:28:52] lux_3: 2013-08–13 15:28:19.408934 I ScreenSaverX11Private: DPMS Reactivated 1
[13:39:43] lux_3: it seems to happen when dpms gets reactivated
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[14:38:56] lux_3: ok the freezes/repeats in playback happen when i'm using pulseaudio, does anyone know a way around this?
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[15:46:29] Zenther: I just installed myth, ran a scan of the videos and it retrieved the metadata for the files it found. However is not showing the cover art. What is the best way to fix this?
[15:47:33] Zenther: Should I unmount the drive, scan again, mount the drive, scan again to re-download the coverart?
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[17:38:08] xris: jarle: I think nuvexport reports total frame counts, so if you have a big commercial cut at the end it'll report strangely
[17:38:36] xris: I can't actually remember where it gets all of that info, though. it's been relatively stable for so long that I haven't looked at the code in ages.  :)
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[17:49:44] jarle: xris: OK, the thing is that I have a lot of commercial marked, but I have not told it to cut that away. Anyway, as long as it works :)
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[17:56:07] xris: odd
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[19:56:17] lautriv: anyone ever tried tu put some mythfrontend on a PS3 ?
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